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Fruitytree
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4/18/2013 5:05:30 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Because in this forum there seems to be more atheists concerned about religion than theists I want to ask these questions to them only:

would you believe if you see the signs predicted in Abraham religions of the coming of the end of times (our times) including:

The of anti-Christ.

The coming of Jesus.

the rising of the sun from the west.

and more others

Would those signs cause you to admit there is God and there is a judgement day and there is a Paradise and a Hellfire ?

Please invite maximum of atheists to participate so we all can have a closer idea

Thank you
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4/18/2013 11:04:41 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
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4/18/2013 11:08:44 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Well, I can only speak for myself of course, but personally I would still struggle, even if much of the book of Revelation, which I assume is what you are referring to, was vindicated. Even if that were the case, one is still left with the problem of why the bible has such a remarkably poor track record when it comes to facts about the world, one is still left with the problem of why Genesis, assuming one interprets it literally, matches up so poorly against what we know about the world.

Given that the bible is supposed to be, to quote Kent Hovind, "the infallible, inerrant, inspired word of the living God", there shouldn't be a single mistake, it should match up perfectly with observed fact. It doesn't. Add that to the fact that there's no empirical evidence for the existence of ANY God, let alone the Christian one, and that many of attributes of the Christian God, omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence etc. are self contradictory, in my estimation at least, and I am forced to answer that, no, the accuracy of Revelation just would not be enough to convince me.
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4/18/2013 11:09:19 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'll answer yours, if you answer mine.

How would I know that these signs are the actual things predicted in the bible, and not a coincidence or illusion?
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4/18/2013 11:22:02 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
And having answered your question, I too would like to propose one of my own. I am assuming that you are a Christian, and my question is, what would it take for you to leave your faith, what would it take for you come to the conclusion that God doesn't exist?
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4/18/2013 11:27:44 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:22:02 AM, boss1592 wrote:
And having answered your question, I too would like to propose one of my own. I am assuming that you are a Christian, and my question is, what would it take for you to leave your faith, what would it take for you come to the conclusion that God doesn't exist?

Not having a faith does not conclude God does not exist.
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4/18/2013 11:28:42 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:27:44 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:22:02 AM, boss1592 wrote:
And having answered your question, I too would like to propose one of my own. I am assuming that you are a Christian, and my question is, what would it take for you to leave your faith, what would it take for you come to the conclusion that God doesn't exist?


Not having a faith does not conclude God does not exist.

Did he say it did?
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4/18/2013 11:29:41 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:08:44 AM, boss1592 wrote:
Well, I can only speak for myself of course, but personally I would still struggle, even if much of the book of Revelation, which I assume is what you are referring to, was vindicated. Even if that were the case, one is still left with the problem of why the bible has such a remarkably poor track record when it comes to facts about the world, one is still left with the problem of why Genesis, assuming one interprets it literally, matches up so poorly against what we know about the world.

Given that the bible is supposed to be, to quote Kent Hovind, "the infallible, inerrant, inspired word of the living God", there shouldn't be a single mistake, it should match up perfectly with observed fact. It doesn't. Add that to the fact that there's no empirical evidence for the existence of ANY God, let alone the Christian one, and that many of attributes of the Christian God, omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence etc. are self contradictory, in my estimation at least, and I am forced to answer that, no, the accuracy of Revelation just would not be enough to convince me.

Empirical evidence of God, lol, what are you waiting for, a photograpgh?
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4/18/2013 11:30:45 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:29:41 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:08:44 AM, boss1592 wrote:
Well, I can only speak for myself of course, but personally I would still struggle, even if much of the book of Revelation, which I assume is what you are referring to, was vindicated. Even if that were the case, one is still left with the problem of why the bible has such a remarkably poor track record when it comes to facts about the world, one is still left with the problem of why Genesis, assuming one interprets it literally, matches up so poorly against what we know about the world.

Given that the bible is supposed to be, to quote Kent Hovind, "the infallible, inerrant, inspired word of the living God", there shouldn't be a single mistake, it should match up perfectly with observed fact. It doesn't. Add that to the fact that there's no empirical evidence for the existence of ANY God, let alone the Christian one, and that many of attributes of the Christian God, omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence etc. are self contradictory, in my estimation at least, and I am forced to answer that, no, the accuracy of Revelation just would not be enough to convince me.


Empirical evidence of God, lol, what are you waiting for, a photograpgh?

Yes.
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4/18/2013 11:36:22 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:30:45 AM, FrackJack wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:29:41 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:08:44 AM, boss1592 wrote:
Well, I can only speak for myself of course, but personally I would still struggle, even if much of the book of Revelation, which I assume is what you are referring to, was vindicated. Even if that were the case, one is still left with the problem of why the bible has such a remarkably poor track record when it comes to facts about the world, one is still left with the problem of why Genesis, assuming one interprets it literally, matches up so poorly against what we know about the world.

Given that the bible is supposed to be, to quote Kent Hovind, "the infallible, inerrant, inspired word of the living God", there shouldn't be a single mistake, it should match up perfectly with observed fact. It doesn't. Add that to the fact that there's no empirical evidence for the existence of ANY God, let alone the Christian one, and that many of attributes of the Christian God, omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence etc. are self contradictory, in my estimation at least, and I am forced to answer that, no, the accuracy of Revelation just would not be enough to convince me.


Empirical evidence of God, lol, what are you waiting for, a photograpgh?

Yes.

Ok, then that explains a lot.
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4/18/2013 11:37:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:36:22 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:30:45 AM, FrackJack wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:29:41 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:08:44 AM, boss1592 wrote:
Well, I can only speak for myself of course, but personally I would still struggle, even if much of the book of Revelation, which I assume is what you are referring to, was vindicated. Even if that were the case, one is still left with the problem of why the bible has such a remarkably poor track record when it comes to facts about the world, one is still left with the problem of why Genesis, assuming one interprets it literally, matches up so poorly against what we know about the world.

Given that the bible is supposed to be, to quote Kent Hovind, "the infallible, inerrant, inspired word of the living God", there shouldn't be a single mistake, it should match up perfectly with observed fact. It doesn't. Add that to the fact that there's no empirical evidence for the existence of ANY God, let alone the Christian one, and that many of attributes of the Christian God, omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence etc. are self contradictory, in my estimation at least, and I am forced to answer that, no, the accuracy of Revelation just would not be enough to convince me.


Empirical evidence of God, lol, what are you waiting for, a photograpgh?

Yes.

Ok, then that explains a lot.

Any evidence that is not anecdotal.
johnlubba
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4/18/2013 11:38:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:28:42 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:27:44 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:22:02 AM, boss1592 wrote:
And having answered your question, I too would like to propose one of my own. I am assuming that you are a Christian, and my question is, what would it take for you to leave your faith, what would it take for you come to the conclusion that God doesn't exist?


Not having a faith does not conclude God does not exist.

Did he say it did?

I took it to mean that you have to abandon the Christian faith to come to realize there is no God, I could be wrong.
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4/18/2013 11:40:09 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:38:05 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:28:42 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:27:44 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:22:02 AM, boss1592 wrote:
And having answered your question, I too would like to propose one of my own. I am assuming that you are a Christian, and my question is, what would it take for you to leave your faith, what would it take for you come to the conclusion that God doesn't exist?


Not having a faith does not conclude God does not exist.

Did he say it did?



I took it to mean that you have to abandon the Christian faith to come to realize there is no God, I could be wrong.

One comes to the realization there is no God, which leads one to leave the Christian faith by default.
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4/18/2013 11:40:40 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:37:57 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:36:22 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:30:45 AM, FrackJack wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:29:41 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:08:44 AM, boss1592 wrote:
Well, I can only speak for myself of course, but personally I would still struggle, even if much of the book of Revelation, which I assume is what you are referring to, was vindicated. Even if that were the case, one is still left with the problem of why the bible has such a remarkably poor track record when it comes to facts about the world, one is still left with the problem of why Genesis, assuming one interprets it literally, matches up so poorly against what we know about the world.

Given that the bible is supposed to be, to quote Kent Hovind, "the infallible, inerrant, inspired word of the living God", there shouldn't be a single mistake, it should match up perfectly with observed fact. It doesn't. Add that to the fact that there's no empirical evidence for the existence of ANY God, let alone the Christian one, and that many of attributes of the Christian God, omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence etc. are self contradictory, in my estimation at least, and I am forced to answer that, no, the accuracy of Revelation just would not be enough to convince me.


Empirical evidence of God, lol, what are you waiting for, a photograpgh?

Yes.

Ok, then that explains a lot.

Any evidence that is not anecdotal.

But first you should realize God is to humongous to be photographed, and also does not reside in the material universe and is not even material.
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4/18/2013 11:41:24 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:40:40 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:37:57 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:36:22 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:30:45 AM, FrackJack wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:29:41 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:08:44 AM, boss1592 wrote:
Well, I can only speak for myself of course, but personally I would still struggle, even if much of the book of Revelation, which I assume is what you are referring to, was vindicated. Even if that were the case, one is still left with the problem of why the bible has such a remarkably poor track record when it comes to facts about the world, one is still left with the problem of why Genesis, assuming one interprets it literally, matches up so poorly against what we know about the world.

Given that the bible is supposed to be, to quote Kent Hovind, "the infallible, inerrant, inspired word of the living God", there shouldn't be a single mistake, it should match up perfectly with observed fact. It doesn't. Add that to the fact that there's no empirical evidence for the existence of ANY God, let alone the Christian one, and that many of attributes of the Christian God, omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence etc. are self contradictory, in my estimation at least, and I am forced to answer that, no, the accuracy of Revelation just would not be enough to convince me.


Empirical evidence of God, lol, what are you waiting for, a photograpgh?

Yes.

Ok, then that explains a lot.

Any evidence that is not anecdotal.



But first you should realize God is to humongous to be photographed, and also does not reside in the material universe and is not even material.

Then how is he humongous?
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4/18/2013 11:45:28 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:40:40 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:37:57 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:36:22 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:30:45 AM, FrackJack wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:29:41 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:08:44 AM, boss1592 wrote:
Well, I can only speak for myself of course, but personally I would still struggle, even if much of the book of Revelation, which I assume is what you are referring to, was vindicated. Even if that were the case, one is still left with the problem of why the bible has such a remarkably poor track record when it comes to facts about the world, one is still left with the problem of why Genesis, assuming one interprets it literally, matches up so poorly against what we know about the world.

Given that the bible is supposed to be, to quote Kent Hovind, "the infallible, inerrant, inspired word of the living God", there shouldn't be a single mistake, it should match up perfectly with observed fact. It doesn't. Add that to the fact that there's no empirical evidence for the existence of ANY God, let alone the Christian one, and that many of attributes of the Christian God, omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence etc. are self contradictory, in my estimation at least, and I am forced to answer that, no, the accuracy of Revelation just would not be enough to convince me.


Empirical evidence of God, lol, what are you waiting for, a photograpgh?

Yes.

Ok, then that explains a lot.

Any evidence that is not anecdotal.



But first you should realize God is to humongous to be photographed, and also does not reside in the material universe and is not even material.

So are you saying that not only is there no empirical evidence, but in fact there can't be any empirical evidence?
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4/18/2013 11:54:09 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:45:28 AM, boss1592 wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:40:40 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:37:57 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:36:22 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:30:45 AM, FrackJack wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:29:41 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:08:44 AM, boss1592 wrote:
Well, I can only speak for myself of course, but personally I would still struggle, even if much of the book of Revelation, which I assume is what you are referring to, was vindicated. Even if that were the case, one is still left with the problem of why the bible has such a remarkably poor track record when it comes to facts about the world, one is still left with the problem of why Genesis, assuming one interprets it literally, matches up so poorly against what we know about the world.

Given that the bible is supposed to be, to quote Kent Hovind, "the infallible, inerrant, inspired word of the living God", there shouldn't be a single mistake, it should match up perfectly with observed fact. It doesn't. Add that to the fact that there's no empirical evidence for the existence of ANY God, let alone the Christian one, and that many of attributes of the Christian God, omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence etc. are self contradictory, in my estimation at least, and I am forced to answer that, no, the accuracy of Revelation just would not be enough to convince me.


Empirical evidence of God, lol, what are you waiting for, a photograpgh?

Yes.

Ok, then that explains a lot.

Any evidence that is not anecdotal.



But first you should realize God is to humongous to be photographed, and also does not reside in the material universe and is not even material.

So are you saying that not only is there no empirical evidence, but in fact there can't be any empirical evidence?

Yes. no DNA Sample exists, God is out of this world or universe even.
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4/18/2013 11:55:12 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:41:24 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:40:40 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:37:57 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:36:22 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:30:45 AM, FrackJack wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:29:41 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:08:44 AM, boss1592 wrote:
Well, I can only speak for myself of course, but personally I would still struggle, even if much of the book of Revelation, which I assume is what you are referring to, was vindicated. Even if that were the case, one is still left with the problem of why the bible has such a remarkably poor track record when it comes to facts about the world, one is still left with the problem of why Genesis, assuming one interprets it literally, matches up so poorly against what we know about the world.

Given that the bible is supposed to be, to quote Kent Hovind, "the infallible, inerrant, inspired word of the living God", there shouldn't be a single mistake, it should match up perfectly with observed fact. It doesn't. Add that to the fact that there's no empirical evidence for the existence of ANY God, let alone the Christian one, and that many of attributes of the Christian God, omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence etc. are self contradictory, in my estimation at least, and I am forced to answer that, no, the accuracy of Revelation just would not be enough to convince me.


Empirical evidence of God, lol, what are you waiting for, a photograpgh?

Yes.

Ok, then that explains a lot.

Any evidence that is not anecdotal.



But first you should realize God is to humongous to be photographed, and also does not reside in the material universe and is not even material.

Then how is he humongous?

Because you are so small, in fact God can be infintisimal or humongous.
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4/18/2013 12:03:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 5:05:30 AM, Fruitytree wrote:
would you believe if you see the signs predicted in Abraham religions of the coming of the end of times (our times) including:

Jesus was supposed return in his own generation. If he returned now, that would make the prediction false.

In any case, you can't have evidence of a contradiction. The Christian god is all-merciful but tortures people forever. He can do anything, but can't defeat iron chariots. He is one but three. Such a god cannot logically exist.
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4/18/2013 3:51:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 3:15:54 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:04:41 AM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
No.

Really? Jesus coming wouldn't convince you lol

Lol
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4/18/2013 4:25:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 11:55:12 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:41:24 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:40:40 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:37:57 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:36:22 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:30:45 AM, FrackJack wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:29:41 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:08:44 AM, boss1592 wrote:
Well, I can only speak for myself of course, but personally I would still struggle, even if much of the book of Revelation, which I assume is what you are referring to, was vindicated. Even if that were the case, one is still left with the problem of why the bible has such a remarkably poor track record when it comes to facts about the world, one is still left with the problem of why Genesis, assuming one interprets it literally, matches up so poorly against what we know about the world.

Given that the bible is supposed to be, to quote Kent Hovind, "the infallible, inerrant, inspired word of the living God", there shouldn't be a single mistake, it should match up perfectly with observed fact. It doesn't. Add that to the fact that there's no empirical evidence for the existence of ANY God, let alone the Christian one, and that many of attributes of the Christian God, omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence etc. are self contradictory, in my estimation at least, and I am forced to answer that, no, the accuracy of Revelation just would not be enough to convince me.


Empirical evidence of God, lol, what are you waiting for, a photograpgh?

Yes.

Ok, then that explains a lot.

Any evidence that is not anecdotal.



But first you should realize God is to humongous to be photographed, and also does not reside in the material universe and is not even material.

Then how is he humongous?

Because you are so small, in fact God can be infintisimal or humongous.

You said God wasn't even material, so I fail to understand how he is 'humongous.'
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4/18/2013 4:32:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 4:25:32 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:55:12 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:41:24 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:40:40 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:37:57 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:36:22 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:30:45 AM, FrackJack wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:29:41 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:08:44 AM, boss1592 wrote:
Well, I can only speak for myself of course, but personally I would still struggle, even if much of the book of Revelation, which I assume is what you are referring to, was vindicated. Even if that were the case, one is still left with the problem of why the bible has such a remarkably poor track record when it comes to facts about the world, one is still left with the problem of why Genesis, assuming one interprets it literally, matches up so poorly against what we know about the world.

Given that the bible is supposed to be, to quote Kent Hovind, "the infallible, inerrant, inspired word of the living God", there shouldn't be a single mistake, it should match up perfectly with observed fact. It doesn't. Add that to the fact that there's no empirical evidence for the existence of ANY God, let alone the Christian one, and that many of attributes of the Christian God, omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence etc. are self contradictory, in my estimation at least, and I am forced to answer that, no, the accuracy of Revelation just would not be enough to convince me.


Empirical evidence of God, lol, what are you waiting for, a photograpgh?

Yes.

Ok, then that explains a lot.

Any evidence that is not anecdotal.



But first you should realize God is to humongous to be photographed, and also does not reside in the material universe and is not even material.

Then how is he humongous?

Because you are so small, in fact God can be infintisimal or humongous.

You said God wasn't even material, so I fail to understand how he is 'humongous.'

That is correct, God is not "material", but God is a Spirit (John 4:24) and He has a form but I have no idea what "humongous" means?
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4/18/2013 6:26:03 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 5:05:30 AM, Fruitytree wrote:
Because in this forum there seems to be more atheists concerned about religion than theists I want to ask these questions to them only:

would you believe if you see the signs predicted in Abraham religions of the coming of the end of times (our times) including:

The of anti-Christ.

The coming of Jesus.

the rising of the sun from the west.

and more others

Would those signs cause you to admit there is God and there is a judgement day and there is a Paradise and a Hellfire ?

Please invite maximum of atheists to participate so we all can have a closer idea

Thank you

Besides the rising of the sun in the West, what exactly would these "signs" be? "The coming of Jesus" is a little vague. I mean, there have been dozens of people claiming to be Jesus incarnate, but no, I don't believe them.
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4/18/2013 7:14:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Thank you to all theists and atheists who participated ,

I will answer your questions one post each .
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4/18/2013 7:19:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/18/2013 3:15:54 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 4/18/2013 11:04:41 AM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
No.

Really? Jesus coming wouldn't convince you lol

If a real Jesus showed up, he couldn't be the contradictory Jesus that has been preached by the churches. So, no, he wouldn't be reason to believe the existing mythology.
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4/18/2013 7:30:27 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
muzebreak

How would I know that these signs are the actual things predicted in the bible, and not a coincidence or illusion?

First , if you beleive universe is a coincidence chances are you will take those signs for coincidences too , it really seams an understanding issue to me .

Also the signs that came in monotheist religions are precise and follow each other , it's a succession of events , antichrist then Jesus then some other extraordinary events including Yogog and Mogog and finally the rising of sun from the west to name only these but the deeds will no longer be accepted once the sun rises from the west according to some religions.

That's for coincidence, but for illusion I do not know , those are real events not imaginary.

So waiting for your decision
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4/18/2013 7:33:46 PM
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4/18/2013 7:38:13 PM
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At 4/18/2013 5:05:30 AM, Fruitytree wrote:

would you believe if you see the signs predicted in Abraham religions of the coming of the end of times (our times) including:

The of anti-Christ.
It's already been claimed that that's happened by various people. Heck, some folks think Obama is the anti-Christ. When would we know it was the "real" one?

The coming of Jesus.

Again, how would we know it was Jesus?

the rising of the sun from the west.

This one would be an indicator of something big, that's for sure. But on its own it wouldn't therefore = Christianity is true.

Would those signs cause you to admit there is God and there is a judgement day and there is a Paradise and a Hellfire ?

Since there's only one that's "objective", and that one is definitely an indicator of something, but not necessarily Christianity, I'd say no.
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