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AlbinoBunny
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6/7/2013 12:36:19 PM
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The Christian religion has named their god "God". Is that really a good name to use? I guess it could convince more people that Christianity is correct, because if they believe in a god, they may believe that they believe in "God". But it seems to be trying to be an ambiguous term, to confuse the matter when people talk about a single god, and even multiple gods.

This is one of the reasons why I've started to use the term deities quite often.
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6/7/2013 1:57:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 12:36:19 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
The Christian religion has named their god "God".

"God" isn't a name. It's a kind of being, or a title.
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6/7/2013 2:13:28 PM
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'God' is basically a Germanic equivalent for the Latin 'Deus' or the Greek 'Theos'. It's just a term used to describe a certain being, for monotheism, and a certain kind of being for polytheism.

As for names in the Judeo-Christian tradition: the way I've understood it is that YHWH is God the Father and Jesus is God the Son.
Genesis I. And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them.
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6/7/2013 2:25:51 PM
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I was at a conference a few years ago and a fantastic paper was presented by a guy from the Philippines (I think), going into the idea that 'god' (and any synonym) is not a noun at all. It was by far the most intelligible defence of religious concepts I have ever heard.
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6/7/2013 2:36:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 1:57:21 PM, philochristos wrote:
At 6/7/2013 12:36:19 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
The Christian religion has named their god "God".

"God" isn't a name. It's a kind of being, or a title.

Then why use it to describe a specific god?
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6/7/2013 2:37:18 PM
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At 6/7/2013 2:13:28 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
'God' is basically a Germanic equivalent for the Latin 'Deus' or the Greek 'Theos'. It's just a term used to describe a certain being, for monotheism, and a certain kind of being for polytheism.

As for names in the Judeo-Christian tradition: the way I've understood it is that YHWH is God the Father and Jesus is God the Son.

Then why do people just use the term God to describe a specific god?
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6/7/2013 2:37:46 PM
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At 6/7/2013 2:25:51 PM, Graincruncher wrote:
I was at a conference a few years ago and a fantastic paper was presented by a guy from the Philippines (I think), going into the idea that 'god' (and any synonym) is not a noun at all. It was by far the most intelligible defence of religious concepts I have ever heard.

Outline it?
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6/7/2013 2:43:06 PM
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At 6/7/2013 2:37:18 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 6/7/2013 2:13:28 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
'God' is basically a Germanic equivalent for the Latin 'Deus' or the Greek 'Theos'. It's just a term used to describe a certain being, for monotheism, and a certain kind of being for polytheism.

As for names in the Judeo-Christian tradition: the way I've understood it is that YHWH is God the Father and Jesus is God the Son.

Then why do people just use the term God to describe a specific god?

Uh, why not? It's like saying "the President" instead of "Barack Obama." For instance, in Genesis 1, God is referred to in Hebrew as "Elohim," and in Genesis 2 as "YHWH Elohim."
Genesis I. And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them.
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6/7/2013 2:44:53 PM
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At 6/7/2013 2:43:06 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 6/7/2013 2:37:18 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 6/7/2013 2:13:28 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
'God' is basically a Germanic equivalent for the Latin 'Deus' or the Greek 'Theos'. It's just a term used to describe a certain being, for monotheism, and a certain kind of being for polytheism.

As for names in the Judeo-Christian tradition: the way I've understood it is that YHWH is God the Father and Jesus is God the Son.

Then why do people just use the term God to describe a specific god?

Uh, why not? It's like saying "the President" instead of "Barack Obama." For instance, in Genesis 1, God is referred to in Hebrew as "Elohim," and in Genesis 2 as "YHWH Elohim."

What about Ra?
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6/7/2013 2:49:34 PM
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At 6/7/2013 2:44:53 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 6/7/2013 2:43:06 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 6/7/2013 2:37:18 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 6/7/2013 2:13:28 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
'God' is basically a Germanic equivalent for the Latin 'Deus' or the Greek 'Theos'. It's just a term used to describe a certain being, for monotheism, and a certain kind of being for polytheism.

As for names in the Judeo-Christian tradition: the way I've understood it is that YHWH is God the Father and Jesus is God the Son.

Then why do people just use the term God to describe a specific god?

Uh, why not? It's like saying "the President" instead of "Barack Obama." For instance, in Genesis 1, God is referred to in Hebrew as "Elohim," and in Genesis 2 as "YHWH Elohim."

What about Ra?

What do you mean, 'what about Ra'? As I said before, 'God' is used in a few different ways depending on the religious context: for monotheism, it's THE divine being, and in polytheism, it's simply a KIND of divine being.
Genesis I. And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them.
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6/7/2013 2:51:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 2:36:49 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 6/7/2013 1:57:21 PM, philochristos wrote:
At 6/7/2013 12:36:19 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
The Christian religion has named their god "God".

"God" isn't a name. It's a kind of being, or a title.

Then why use it to describe a specific god?

God with a capital G is being used as a placeholder for the name that is forbidden. It goes back to taking the name of a god in vain. Saying "By the name of Zeus" would be taking Zeus' name in vain. Same goes for saying "What in the name of God". To avoid people saying it, and thus breaking a commandment, the name is usually replaced by a place holder, and never spoken. Doesn't matter though because all that take is intent to break the rule. Using the place holder is supposed to be just as bad as saying the name, but that's the logic people who use God use to justify using God, and not a proper noun. For many it's become a proper noun in their minds.
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6/7/2013 2:56:51 PM
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At 6/7/2013 2:36:49 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 6/7/2013 1:57:21 PM, philochristos wrote:
At 6/7/2013 12:36:19 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
The Christian religion has named their god "God".

"God" isn't a name. It's a kind of being, or a title.

Then why use it to describe a specific god?

Well, why not? As long as it's understood which God we're talking about, it does a fine job of communicating our meaning. If I said, "Christ...," you'd know I was probably talking about Jesus. If I said, "The President," you'd know I was probably talking about Barak Obama. In our culture, when people say, "God," they are almost always referring to the god behind the major monotheistic religions. If they mean to refer to some other god, they usually use another term.
"Not to know of what things one should demand demonstration, and of what one should not, argues want of education." ~Aristotle

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~Aristotle
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6/7/2013 2:57:39 PM
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At 6/7/2013 12:36:19 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
The Christian religion has named their god "God". Is that really a good name to use? I guess it could convince more people that Christianity is correct, because if they believe in a god, they may believe that they believe in "God". But it seems to be trying to be an ambiguous term, to confuse the matter when people talk about a single god, and even multiple gods.

This is one of the reasons why I've started to use the term deities quite often.
Deity? Oh google....? hang on...No, i checked, rubbish name.
I would stick with Elohim! And use His Name YHWH and Yahshua or Yahushua, see my website on my signature.
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6/7/2013 2:58:08 PM
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At 6/7/2013 2:43:06 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 6/7/2013 2:37:18 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 6/7/2013 2:13:28 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
'God' is basically a Germanic equivalent for the Latin 'Deus' or the Greek 'Theos'. It's just a term used to describe a certain being, for monotheism, and a certain kind of being for polytheism.

As for names in the Judeo-Christian tradition: the way I've understood it is that YHWH is God the Father and Jesus is God the Son.

Then why do people just use the term God to describe a specific god?

Uh, why not? It's like saying "the President" instead of "Barack Obama." For instance, in Genesis 1, God is referred to in Hebrew as "Elohim," and in Genesis 2 as "YHWH Elohim."

Ha! You responded just like I did.
"Not to know of what things one should demand demonstration, and of what one should not, argues want of education." ~Aristotle

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~Aristotle
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6/7/2013 3:00:05 PM
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At 6/7/2013 12:36:19 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
The Christian religion has named their god "God". Is that really a good name to use? I guess it could convince more people that Christianity is correct, because if they believe in a god, they may believe that they believe in "God". But it seems to be trying to be an ambiguous term, to confuse the matter when people talk about a single god, and even multiple gods.

This is one of the reasons why I've started to use the term deities quite often.

Christians use God as general why to describe our God. His name is YHWH or Jesus Christ.
Psalm 118:8, "It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man."
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6/7/2013 3:00:33 PM
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At 6/7/2013 3:00:05 PM, Harbinger wrote:
At 6/7/2013 12:36:19 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
The Christian religion has named their god "God". Is that really a good name to use? I guess it could convince more people that Christianity is correct, because if they believe in a god, they may believe that they believe in "God". But it seems to be trying to be an ambiguous term, to confuse the matter when people talk about a single god, and even multiple gods.

This is one of the reasons why I've started to use the term deities quite often.

Christians use God as a general way to describe our God. His name is YHWH or Jesus Christ.

*Fixed
Psalm 118:8, "It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man."
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6/7/2013 3:01:15 PM
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At 6/7/2013 2:58:08 PM, philochristos wrote:
At 6/7/2013 2:43:06 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 6/7/2013 2:37:18 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 6/7/2013 2:13:28 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
'God' is basically a Germanic equivalent for the Latin 'Deus' or the Greek 'Theos'. It's just a term used to describe a certain being, for monotheism, and a certain kind of being for polytheism.

As for names in the Judeo-Christian tradition: the way I've understood it is that YHWH is God the Father and Jesus is God the Son.

Then why do people just use the term God to describe a specific god?

Uh, why not? It's like saying "the President" instead of "Barack Obama." For instance, in Genesis 1, God is referred to in Hebrew as "Elohim," and in Genesis 2 as "YHWH Elohim."

Ha! You responded just like I did.

Mediocre minds sometimes think like great minds!
Genesis I. And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them.
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6/7/2013 3:01:33 PM
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I like YHWH's better!!!
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At 6/7/2013 12:36:19 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
The Christian religion has named their god "God". Is that really a good name to use? I guess it could convince more people that Christianity is correct, because if they believe in a god, they may believe that they believe in "God". But it seems to be trying to be an ambiguous term, to confuse the matter when people talk about a single god, and even multiple gods.

This is one of the reasons why I've started to use the term deities quite often.
Deity? Oh google....? hang on...No, i checked, rubbish name.
I would stick with Elohim! And use His Name YHWH and Yahshua or Yahushua, see my website on my signature.
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6/7/2013 3:13:44 PM
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At 6/7/2013 2:37:46 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 6/7/2013 2:25:51 PM, Graincruncher wrote:
I was at a conference a few years ago and a fantastic paper was presented by a guy from the Philippines (I think), going into the idea that 'god' (and any synonym) is not a noun at all. It was by far the most intelligible defence of religious concepts I have ever heard.

Outline it?

It was essentially that the root of the word, at least in early Christianity and still somewhat in the Eastern Orthodox church, is one where closeness to god was simply a way of behaving that expressed certain values. To be godly was to be an exemplar of these values that lead to a state of grace because your life was judged to have been at least as much a value to the world as it had been a cost.

It was a while ago though, so I can't be more specific than that. The irony of the argument being that it becomes intelligible because it removes any recognisable concept of god as is usually the subject of religion.
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6/7/2013 10:35:52 PM
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That word 'God' was invented like 700 years ago or something, and it is not the best name to title the Creator and Lord of the Heavens and the Earth!

It is an English word, obviously, and other languages have many other names as well.

However, what I think the greatest name is simply what all the messengers used.

Moses (as) used Elohoim in Hebrew, Jesus (as) used Allaha in Aramaic, and Muhammad (saw) used Allah in Arabic.

The greatest name for 'God' is simply, 'Allah'.

Allah was used by many prophets of God, including Muhammad (saw) and Jesus (as).

Don't believe? Read the Bible in Arabic or Aramaic, the Aramaic and Hebrew Bibles are the original revealed languages for the Gospels, which Jesus (as) spoke.

The name 'Allah' is unique, because no other Arabic word has a use for Allah except to mean the One God.

Allah is compromised of two parts.

Al and Ilah.

Al = The
Ilah = God

Al + Ilah = Allah = THE GOD.

Indicating that there is only ONE God.

It is a unique name and title, and is most often used by Muslims, but even Arabic speaking Christians and Jews use the name 'Allah' to refer to God.

But in the English language, many people use the word 'God' to describe honorable people as well, which is not a case in Arabic, as Allah is only used for the One Creator and Sustainer of this universe.
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6/8/2013 7:34:37 PM
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It's like calling your child Human.
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6/8/2013 11:18:33 PM
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At 6/8/2013 7:34:37 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
It's like calling your child Human.

But God is still acceptable, since God is only One.
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6/9/2013 8:28:52 AM
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At 6/8/2013 11:18:33 PM, IslamAhmadiyya wrote:
At 6/8/2013 7:34:37 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
It's like calling your child Human.

But God is still acceptable, since God is only One.

But there are huge amounts of possible gods. If people say they believe in a god, people hear them say they believe in a God. It's exactly the same word.
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6/9/2013 9:37:34 AM
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At 6/9/2013 8:28:52 AM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 6/8/2013 11:18:33 PM, IslamAhmadiyya wrote:
At 6/8/2013 7:34:37 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
It's like calling your child Human.

But God is still acceptable, since God is only One.

But there are huge amounts of possible gods. If people say they believe in a god, people hear them say they believe in a God. It's exactly the same word.
I like to call him BOB. He has a son BOB and a sister BOB and all the billions of other gods I like to think of as like baby spiders floating away on their little webs in the breeze, I call them BOBETTES. Now of course when the bobettes grow up they can't become BOBs but they are COUSIN BOBS, or as I like to call them COUBOBS. It simplifies the whole family structure don't you think?
We have
BOB, BOB and BOB and all the COUBOBs. One big happy family of BOBs.
I hope I've helped.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin