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6/7/2013 5:40:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The name"Jesus" used in the English language originates from the Latin form of the Greek name (Iesous), a rendition of the Hebrew Yahusha
The Aramaic form of Yahushua uses "Yeshua"

Jesus"..Middle English, from Late Latin eIsus, from Greek Iesous, from Hebrew y"", from yh""a", Joshua...(3 languages)

Deu_22:11 "Do not put on a garment of different kinds, of wool and linen together.

Deu_22:9 "Do not sow your vineyard with different kinds of seed, lest the yield of the seed which you have sown and the fruit of your vineyard be defiled.

Deu_22:10 "Do not plough with an ox and a donkey together.

Num_36:3 "Now if they are married to any of the sons of the other tribes of the children of Yisra"ĕl, then their inheritance shall be taken from the inheritance of our fathers, and shall be added to the inheritance of the tribe into which they marry, and taken from the lot of our inheritance.

Jos_23:7 so as not to go in among these nations, these who remain among you. And make no mention of the name of their mighty ones1, a nor swear by them, nor serve them nor bow down to them. Footnote: 1See Exo 23:13.

As you can see from these verses YHWH does not like to "mix" things up. He loathes hybrids, rather likes purity.

Again Jesus is a mixture of three! languages. Not what the Father would want for His Son's name.

Conclusion:
I use the original - Yahushua!

o"rig"i"nal""adj.1."Preceding all others in time; first. 2.a."Not derived from something else; fresh and unusual
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6/7/2013 5:42:27 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Really? I just call him J-dog.
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6/7/2013 5:43:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
For a detailed and excellent study this is one of my favorites of many.

http://www.eliyah.com...

He uses all kinds of fonts and original manuscripts!
Good teaching!
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6/7/2013 5:45:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 5:42:27 PM, muzebreak wrote:
Really? I just call him J-dog.

Haha, I go with Pimp-C myself
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6/7/2013 5:45:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 5:42:27 PM, muzebreak wrote:
Really? I just call him J-dog.
Your mother and father must hate you then, disrespect the eternal Creator? Man you must have even more extreme and horrible names for others! whew, what a night mare!
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6/7/2013 5:48:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 5:40:25 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
The name"Jesus" used in the English language originates from the Latin form of the Greek name (Iesous), a rendition of the Hebrew Yahusha
The Aramaic form of Yahushua uses "Yeshua"

Jesus"..Middle English, from Late Latin eIsus, from Greek Iesous, from Hebrew y"", from yh""a", Joshua...(3 languages)

Deu_22:11 "Do not put on a garment of different kinds, of wool and linen together.

Deu_22:9 "Do not sow your vineyard with different kinds of seed, lest the yield of the seed which you have sown and the fruit of your vineyard be defiled.

Deu_22:10 "Do not plough with an ox and a donkey together.

Num_36:3 "Now if they are married to any of the sons of the other tribes of the children of Yisra"ĕl, then their inheritance shall be taken from the inheritance of our fathers, and shall be added to the inheritance of the tribe into which they marry, and taken from the lot of our inheritance.

Jos_23:7 so as not to go in among these nations, these who remain among you. And make no mention of the name of their mighty ones1, a nor swear by them, nor serve them nor bow down to them. Footnote: 1See Exo 23:13.

As you can see from these verses YHWH does not like to "mix" things up. He loathes hybrids, rather likes purity.

Again Jesus is a mixture of three! languages. Not what the Father would want for His Son's name.

Conclusion:
I use the original - Yahushua!

o"rig"i"nal""adj.1."Preceding all others in time; first. 2.a."Not derived from something else; fresh and unusual

This proves what? Nothing by what I see? So I guess the Bible should not be translated at all? I guess Jesus spoke Hebrew and not Aramaic? I guess the elect should not go witness to anyone? Where does this say what you suggest? No where.
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6/7/2013 5:48:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 5:45:08 PM, PrivateEye wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:42:27 PM, muzebreak wrote:
Really? I just call him J-dog.

Haha, I go with Pimp-C myself

When He makes you bend your knee and confess His name those trashy words will not be coming out of your mouth, if you make it through Armageddon, or Ya'akob's trouble for that matter, your mockery days are short. The night comes.
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6/7/2013 5:50:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 5:48:08 PM, Harbinger wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:40:25 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
The name"Jesus" used in the English language originates from the Latin form of the Greek name (Iesous), a rendition of the Hebrew Yahusha
The Aramaic form of Yahushua uses "Yeshua"

Jesus"..Middle English, from Late Latin eIsus, from Greek Iesous, from Hebrew y"", from yh""a", Joshua...(3 languages)

Deu_22:11 "Do not put on a garment of different kinds, of wool and linen together.

Deu_22:9 "Do not sow your vineyard with different kinds of seed, lest the yield of the seed which you have sown and the fruit of your vineyard be defiled.

Deu_22:10 "Do not plough with an ox and a donkey together.

Num_36:3 "Now if they are married to any of the sons of the other tribes of the children of Yisra"ĕl, then their inheritance shall be taken from the inheritance of our fathers, and shall be added to the inheritance of the tribe into which they marry, and taken from the lot of our inheritance.

Jos_23:7 so as not to go in among these nations, these who remain among you. And make no mention of the name of their mighty ones1, a nor swear by them, nor serve them nor bow down to them. Footnote: 1See Exo 23:13.

As you can see from these verses YHWH does not like to "mix" things up. He loathes hybrids, rather likes purity.

Again Jesus is a mixture of three! languages. Not what the Father would want for His Son's name.

Conclusion:
I use the original - Yahushua!

o"rig"i"nal""adj.1."Preceding all others in time; first. 2.a."Not derived from something else; fresh and unusual

This proves what? Nothing by what I see? So I guess the Bible should not be translated at all? I guess Jesus spoke Hebrew and not Aramaic? I guess the elect should not go witness to anyone? Where does this say what you suggest? No where.

Twister why do you always take things out of context? Caus your a liar. Bilingual time, yes, but that is not the point above. No wonder the Ruach has me ignore you all the time. You are a pointless waste of time!
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6/7/2013 5:52:58 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Why Yahushua?
(Latest update 1/9/12 includes updates in the 'Yehoshua' and 'Yeshua' sections)

Some have written me asking for an explanation of why I use the form "Yahushua" in reference to the Messiah while others use "Yahshua", "Yeshua" or "Yehoshua". The purpose of this study is to go through each of these pronunciations and determine which is the most correct.

I'm not one that believes that you need to pronounce the Messiah's name exactly like I do in order to be saved. However, the issue of the Messiah's name is a very important one. If you don't believe me, read the below scriptures:

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Yahushua Messiah for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, "Silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you: In the name of Yahushua Messiah of Nazareth, rise up and walk."

Acts 3:16 "And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which [comes] through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

Acts 4:7 And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, "By what power or by what name have you done this?"

Acts 4:10 "let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Yahushua Messiah of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom Elohim raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole.

Acts 4:12 "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."

Acts 4:17 "But so that it spreads no further among the people, let us severely threaten them, that from now on they speak to no man in this name." 18 And they called them and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Yahushua.

Acts 4:30 "by stretching out Your hand to heal, and that signs and wonders may be done through the name of Your holy Servant Yahushua."

Acts 5:28 saying, "Did we not strictly command you not to teach in this name? And look, you have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this Man's blood on us!"

Acts 5:40 And they agreed with him, and when they had called for the apostles and beaten [them], they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Yahushua, and let them go. 41 So they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for His name.

Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of Elohim and the name of Yahushua Messiah, both men and women were baptized.

Acts 8:16 For as yet He had fallen upon none of them. They had only been baptized in the name of the Master Yahushua.

Acts 9:14 "And here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call on Your name." 15 But the Master said to him, "Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel. 16 "For I will show him how many things he must suffer for My name's sake."

Acts 9:21 Then all who heard were amazed, and said, "Is this not he who destroyed those who called on this name in Jerusalem, and has come here for that purpose, so that he might bring them bound to the chief priests?"

Acts 9:27 But Barnabas took him and brought [him] to the apostles. And he declared to them how he had seen the Master on the road, and that He had spoken to him, and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Yahushua.

Acts 9:29 And he spoke boldly in the name of the Master Yahushua and disputed against the Hellenists, but they attempted to kill him.

Acts 10:43 "To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins."

Acts 15:14 "Simon has declared how Elohim at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name.

Acts 15:26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Master Yahushua Messiah.

Acts 16:18 And this she did for many days. But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Yahushua Messiah to come out of her." And he came out that very hour.

Acts 18:15 "But if it is a question of words and names and your own law, look [to] [it] yourselves; for I do not want to be a judge of such [matters]."

Acts 19:5 When they heard [this], they were baptized in the name of the Master Yahushua.

Acts 19:13 Then some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists took it upon themselves to call the name of the Master Yahushua over those who had evil spirits, saying, "We exorcise you by the Yahushua whom Paul preaches."

Acts 19:17 This became known both to all Jews and Greeks dwelling in Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Master Yahushua was magnified.

Acts 21:13 Then Paul answered, "What do you mean by weeping and breaking my heart? For I am ready not only to be bound, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Master Yahushua."

And this is just in the book of Acts! The name of Yahushua is intricately linked with the person of Yahushua. So in light of the numerous scriptures which show us the importance of His name, we should at least seek to understand how it is pronounced. It is obviously important according to scripture.

Origin of the name "Jesus"

According to the American Heritage Dictionary, the etymological origin of "Jesus" is:

Jesus ..Middle English, from Late Latin Isus, from Greek Isous, from Hebrew y"", from yh""a", Joshua...

Notice that it says that the origin of His name is from Latin, then Greek, then Hebrew. So the name "Jesus" is the result of 3 different languages placing their influence on the original name the disciples were proclaiming, baptizing in and praying in. Some of the influence is quite recent. In the 1611 King James Version, it originally had "Iesus" rather than "Jesus" (photo). Later revisions of the KJV changed it to "Jesus". This leads me to ask some important questions: "Who is the one who gets to decide what it is changed to? Man or Yahweh? And if Yahushua is supposed to be the same yesterday, today and forever, why do they keep changing His name?"

If you look up the name "Jesus" in a Strong's lexicon it has "Iesous":

"2424 Iesous ee-ay-sooce' of Hebrew origin (3091); Jesus (i.e. Jehoshua), the name of our Lord and two (three) other Israelites:--Jesus."
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6/7/2013 5:54:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 5:48:38 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:45:08 PM, PrivateEye wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:42:27 PM, muzebreak wrote:
Really? I just call him J-dog.

Haha, I go with Pimp-C myself

When He makes you bend your knee and confess His name those trashy words will not be coming out of your mouth, if you make it through Armageddon, or Ya'akob's trouble for that matter, your mockery days are short. The night comes.

Haha, right on man!
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6/7/2013 5:56:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 5:50:42 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:48:08 PM, Harbinger wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:40:25 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
The name"Jesus" used in the English language originates from the Latin form of the Greek name (Iesous), a rendition of the Hebrew Yahusha
The Aramaic form of Yahushua uses "Yeshua"

Jesus"..Middle English, from Late Latin eIsus, from Greek Iesous, from Hebrew y"", from yh""a", Joshua...(3 languages)

Deu_22:11 "Do not put on a garment of different kinds, of wool and linen together.

Deu_22:9 "Do not sow your vineyard with different kinds of seed, lest the yield of the seed which you have sown and the fruit of your vineyard be defiled.

Deu_22:10 "Do not plough with an ox and a donkey together.

Num_36:3 "Now if they are married to any of the sons of the other tribes of the children of Yisra"ĕl, then their inheritance shall be taken from the inheritance of our fathers, and shall be added to the inheritance of the tribe into which they marry, and taken from the lot of our inheritance.

Jos_23:7 so as not to go in among these nations, these who remain among you. And make no mention of the name of their mighty ones1, a nor swear by them, nor serve them nor bow down to them. Footnote: 1See Exo 23:13.

As you can see from these verses YHWH does not like to "mix" things up. He loathes hybrids, rather likes purity.

Again Jesus is a mixture of three! languages. Not what the Father would want for His Son's name.

Conclusion:
I use the original - Yahushua!

o"rig"i"nal""adj.1."Preceding all others in time; first. 2.a."Not derived from something else; fresh and unusual

This proves what? Nothing by what I see? So I guess the Bible should not be translated at all? I guess Jesus spoke Hebrew and not Aramaic? I guess the elect should not go witness to anyone? Where does this say what you suggest? No where.

Twister why do you always take things out of context? Caus your a liar. Bilingual time, yes, but that is not the point above. No wonder the Ruach has me ignore you all the time. You are a pointless waste of time!

I am waiting to prove your point that we should use Hebrew. I guess your trying to prove that speaks any other language cannot pray to God since He only recognizes Hebrew?
Psalm 118:8, "It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man."
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6/7/2013 6:00:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 5:52:58 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
Why Yahushua?
(Latest update 1/9/12 includes updates in the 'Yehoshua' and 'Yeshua' sections)

Some have written me asking for an explanation of why I use the form "Yahushua" in reference to the Messiah while others use "Yahshua", "Yeshua" or "Yehoshua". The purpose of this study is to go through each of these pronunciations and determine which is the most correct.

I'm not one that believes that you need to pronounce the Messiah's name exactly like I do in order to be saved. However, the issue of the Messiah's name is a very important one. If you don't believe me, read the below scriptures:

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Yahushua Messiah for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, "Silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you: In the name of Yahushua Messiah of Nazareth, rise up and walk."

Acts 3:16 "And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which [comes] through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

Acts 4:7 And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, "By what power or by what name have you done this?"

Acts 4:10 "let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Yahushua Messiah of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom Elohim raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole.

Acts 4:12 "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."

Acts 4:17 "But so that it spreads no further among the people, let us severely threaten them, that from now on they speak to no man in this name." 18 And they called them and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Yahushua.

Acts 4:30 "by stretching out Your hand to heal, and that signs and wonders may be done through the name of Your holy Servant Yahushua."

Acts 5:28 saying, "Did we not strictly command you not to teach in this name? And look, you have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this Man's blood on us!"

Acts 5:40 And they agreed with him, and when they had called for the apostles and beaten [them], they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Yahushua, and let them go. 41 So they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for His name.

Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of Elohim and the name of Yahushua Messiah, both men and women were baptized.

Acts 8:16 For as yet He had fallen upon none of them. They had only been baptized in the name of the Master Yahushua.

Acts 9:14 "And here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call on Your name." 15 But the Master said to him, "Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel. 16 "For I will show him how many things he must suffer for My name's sake."

Acts 9:21 Then all who heard were amazed, and said, "Is this not he who destroyed those who called on this name in Jerusalem, and has come here for that purpose, so that he might bring them bound to the chief priests?"

Acts 9:27 But Barnabas took him and brought [him] to the apostles. And he declared to them how he had seen the Master on the road, and that He had spoken to him, and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Yahushua.

Acts 9:29 And he spoke boldly in the name of the Master Yahushua and disputed against the Hellenists, but they attempted to kill him.

Acts 10:43 "To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins."

Acts 15:14 "Simon has declared how Elohim at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name.

Acts 15:26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Master Yahushua Messiah.

Acts 16:18 And this she did for many days. But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Yahushua Messiah to come out of her." And he came out that very hour.

Acts 18:15 "But if it is a question of words and names and your own law, look [to] [it] yourselves; for I do not want to be a judge of such [matters]."

Acts 19:5 When they heard [this], they were baptized in the name of the Master Yahushua.

Acts 19:13 Then some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists took it upon themselves to call the name of the Master Yahushua over those who had evil spirits, saying, "We exorcise you by the Yahushua whom Paul preaches."

Acts 19:17 This became known both to all Jews and Greeks dwelling in Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Master Yahushua was magnified.

Acts 21:13 Then Paul answered, "What do you mean by weeping and breaking my heart? For I am ready not only to be bound, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Master Yahushua."

And this is just in the book of Acts! The name of Yahushua is intricately linked with the person of Yahushua. So in light of the numerous scriptures which show us the importance of His name, we should at least seek to understand how it is pronounced. It is obviously important according to scripture.

Origin of the name "Jesus"

According to the American Heritage Dictionary, the etymological origin of "Jesus" is:

Jesus ..Middle English, from Late Latin Isus, from Greek Isous, from Hebrew y"", from yh""a", Joshua...

Notice that it says that the origin of His name is from Latin, then Greek, then Hebrew. So the name "Jesus" is the result of 3 different languages placing their influence on the original name the disciples were proclaiming, baptizing in and praying in. Some of the influence is quite recent. In the 1611 King James Version, it originally had "Iesus" rather than "Jesus" (photo). Later revisions of the KJV changed it to "Jesus". This leads me to ask some important questions: "Who is the one who gets to decide what it is changed to? Man or Yahweh? And if Yahushua is supposed to be the same yesterday, today and forever, why do they keep changing His name?"

If you look up the name "Jesus" in a Strong's lexicon it has "Iesous":

"2424 Iesous ee-ay-sooce' of Hebrew origin (3091); Jesus (i.e. Jehoshua), the name of our Lord and two (three) other Israelites:--Jesus."

LOL LOL LOL LOL. This guy post that Jesus is the named of our Lord.
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6/7/2013 6:33:48 PM
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Hey everyone peye and possibly harb are repeat accounts here to distract and stir, just ignore them and you will not waste your time, thanks, sower. I will post this every where so all know that way no one will bother with them. Administration is already notified.
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6/7/2013 7:28:31 PM
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Your god, whom you claim to be god of the vast universe, a universe so large in all practical terms can only be experienced as infinite. Yet, your god is so small he's xenophobic, preferring a dead language that had to be reinvented just so people could speak it in modern times.
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6/8/2013 11:44:01 PM
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OP, you just prove that Prophet Jesus (as) survived the Crucifixion and traveled to Kashmir, India, where he had passed away, and where his grave is still which still remains to this day.

The inscription on the tomb, "Yuz Asaf."

Yuz is short for Yusu, which derives from Yeshua, or Jesus. Asaf means gatherer. Yuz Asaf means Jesus the Gatherer.

The locals living in Kashmir, India, say that the Tomb of Yuz Asaf belongs to a noble prophet that had come here to preach the message of unity of God. Little do they know, this very prophet was the same one crucified, 2000 years ago.

The world still doesn't know that he literally survived, God saved him, and he traveled east to fulfill his mission, to spread the message to the lost tribes of Israel. 10 of them were scattered in the east, he already preached to 2 of them, out of the 12.

This is all history. Thanks for the help, by the way.
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6/9/2013 1:28:35 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 5:45:39 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:42:27 PM, muzebreak wrote:
Really? I just call him J-dog.
Your mother and father must hate you then, disrespect the eternal Creator? Man you must have even more extreme and horrible names for others! whew, what a night mare!

Jesus is a p*ssy, I used to beat the kid up and all he did was cry about how it reminded him of the Romans.
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6/9/2013 1:31:58 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 5:48:38 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:45:08 PM, PrivateEye wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:42:27 PM, muzebreak wrote:
Really? I just call him J-dog.

Haha, I go with Pimp-C myself

When He makes you bend your knee and confess His name those trashy words will not be coming out of your mouth, if you make it through Armageddon, or Ya'akob's trouble for that matter, your mockery days are short. The night comes.

You are so delusional that you actually think that is a legit threat. If you threatened me with Batman I would be more worried.
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6/9/2013 1:38:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Theists forget that Atheists don't believe in God. So threatening them with God is about as effective as threatening them Spawn. Seriously though, do you expect any other response but laughter in your face?
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6/9/2013 1:38:08 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/9/2013 1:28:35 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:45:39 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:42:27 PM, muzebreak wrote:
Really? I just call him J-dog.
Your mother and father must hate you then, disrespect the eternal Creator? Man you must have even more extreme and horrible names for others! whew, what a night mare!

Jesus is a p*ssy, I used to beat the kid up and all he did was cry about how it reminded him of the Romans.

He still loves you.
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6/9/2013 1:38:56 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 7:28:31 PM, s-anthony wrote:
Your god, whom you claim to be god of the vast universe, a universe so large in all practical terms can only be experienced as infinite. Yet, your god is so small he's xenophobic, preferring a dead language that had to be reinvented just so people could speak it in modern times.

Did that make any sense? I did not think so.
Psalm 118:8, "It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man."
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6/9/2013 1:46:34 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/9/2013 1:38:08 AM, Harbinger wrote:
At 6/9/2013 1:28:35 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:45:39 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:42:27 PM, muzebreak wrote:
Really? I just call him J-dog.
Your mother and father must hate you then, disrespect the eternal Creator? Man you must have even more extreme and horrible names for others! whew, what a night mare!

Jesus is a p*ssy, I used to beat the kid up and all he did was cry about how it reminded him of the Romans.

He still loves you.

And Thor loves you.
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6/9/2013 1:51:56 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/9/2013 1:46:34 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 6/9/2013 1:38:08 AM, Harbinger wrote:
At 6/9/2013 1:28:35 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:45:39 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:42:27 PM, muzebreak wrote:
Really? I just call him J-dog.
Your mother and father must hate you then, disrespect the eternal Creator? Man you must have even more extreme and horrible names for others! whew, what a night mare!

Jesus is a p*ssy, I used to beat the kid up and all he did was cry about how it reminded him of the Romans.

He still loves you.

And Thor loves you.

Ohh... How nice but my God is a jealous God and I am no whore.
Psalm 118:8, "It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man."
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6/9/2013 4:22:15 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/9/2013 1:51:56 AM, Harbinger wrote:
At 6/9/2013 1:46:34 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 6/9/2013 1:38:08 AM, Harbinger wrote:
At 6/9/2013 1:28:35 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:45:39 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:42:27 PM, muzebreak wrote:
Really? I just call him J-dog.
Your mother and father must hate you then, disrespect the eternal Creator? Man you must have even more extreme and horrible names for others! whew, what a night mare!

Jesus is a p*ssy, I used to beat the kid up and all he did was cry about how it reminded him of the Romans.

He still loves you.

And Thor loves you.

Ohh... How nice but my God is a jealous God and I am no whore.

Jealousy if for the weak.
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6/9/2013 4:52:36 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/9/2013 4:22:15 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:

Ohh... How nice but my God is a jealous God and I am no whore.

Jealousy if for the weak.

Say that when another man macks on your girl and brings her gifts and flowers and stuff.
Psalm 118:8, "It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man."
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6/9/2013 5:20:14 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 5:56:42 PM, Harbinger wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:50:42 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:48:08 PM, Harbinger wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:40:25 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
The name"Jesus" used in the English language originates from the Latin form of the Greek name (Iesous), a rendition of the Hebrew Yahusha
The Aramaic form of Yahushua uses "Yeshua"

Jesus"..Middle English, from Late Latin eIsus, from Greek Iesous, from Hebrew y"", from yh""a", Joshua...(3 languages)

Deu_22:11 "Do not put on a garment of different kinds, of wool and linen together.

Deu_22:9 "Do not sow your vineyard with different kinds of seed, lest the yield of the seed which you have sown and the fruit of your vineyard be defiled.

Deu_22:10 "Do not plough with an ox and a donkey together.

Num_36:3 "Now if they are married to any of the sons of the other tribes of the children of Yisra"ĕl, then their inheritance shall be taken from the inheritance of our fathers, and shall be added to the inheritance of the tribe into which they marry, and taken from the lot of our inheritance.

Jos_23:7 so as not to go in among these nations, these who remain among you. And make no mention of the name of their mighty ones1, a nor swear by them, nor serve them nor bow down to them. Footnote: 1See Exo 23:13.

As you can see from these verses YHWH does not like to "mix" things up. He loathes hybrids, rather likes purity.

Again Jesus is a mixture of three! languages. Not what the Father would want for His Son's name.

Conclusion:
I use the original - Yahushua!

o"rig"i"nal""adj.1."Preceding all others in time; first. 2.a."Not derived from something else; fresh and unusual

This proves what? Nothing by what I see? So I guess the Bible should not be translated at all? I guess Jesus spoke Hebrew and not Aramaic? I guess the elect should not go witness to anyone? Where does this say what you suggest? No where.

Twister why do you always take things out of context? Caus your a liar. Bilingual time, yes, but that is not the point above. No wonder the Ruach has me ignore you all the time. You are a pointless waste of time!

I am waiting to prove your point that we should use Hebrew. I guess your trying to prove that speaks any other language cannot pray to God since He only recognizes Hebrew?
No twister I never said that.
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6/9/2013 5:21:35 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 6:40:58 PM, drafterman wrote:
Do you really think your god cares what name he is called?

Of course, nearly 7,000 times in Scripture where ever you see Lord or Adonai and other places too!
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6/9/2013 5:25:40 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/7/2013 6:00:45 PM, Harbinger wrote:
At 6/7/2013 5:52:58 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
Why Yahushua?
(Latest update 1/9/12 includes updates in the 'Yehoshua' and 'Yeshua' sections)

Some have written me asking for an explanation of why I use the form "Yahushua" in reference to the Messiah while others use "Yahshua", "Yeshua" or "Yehoshua". The purpose of this study is to go through each of these pronunciations and determine which is the most correct.

I'm not one that believes that you need to pronounce the Messiah's name exactly like I do in order to be saved. However, the issue of the Messiah's name is a very important one. If you don't believe me, read the below scriptures:

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Yahushua Messiah for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, "Silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you: In the name of Yahushua Messiah of Nazareth, rise up and walk."

Acts 3:16 "And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which [comes] through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

Acts 4:7 And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, "By what power or by what name have you done this?"

Acts 4:10 "let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Yahushua Messiah of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom Elohim raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole.

Acts 4:12 "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."

Acts 4:17 "But so that it spreads no further among the people, let us severely threaten them, that from now on they speak to no man in this name." 18 And they called them and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Yahushua.

Acts 4:30 "by stretching out Your hand to heal, and that signs and wonders may be done through the name of Your holy Servant Yahushua."

Acts 5:28 saying, "Did we not strictly command you not to teach in this name? And look, you have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this Man's blood on us!"

Acts 5:40 And they agreed with him, and when they had called for the apostles and beaten [them], they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Yahushua, and let them go. 41 So they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for His name.

Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of Elohim and the name of Yahushua Messiah, both men and women were baptized.

Acts 8:16 For as yet He had fallen upon none of them. They had only been baptized in the name of the Master Yahushua.

Acts 9:14 "And here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call on Your name." 15 But the Master said to him, "Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel. 16 "For I will show him how many things he must suffer for My name's sake."

Acts 9:21 Then all who heard were amazed, and said, "Is this not he who destroyed those who called on this name in Jerusalem, and has come here for that purpose, so that he might bring them bound to the chief priests?"

Acts 9:27 But Barnabas took him and brought [him] to the apostles. And he declared to them how he had seen the Master on the road, and that He had spoken to him, and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Yahushua.

Acts 9:29 And he spoke boldly in the name of the Master Yahushua and disputed against the Hellenists, but they attempted to kill him.

Acts 10:43 "To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins."

Acts 15:14 "Simon has declared how Elohim at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name.

Acts 15:26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Master Yahushua Messiah.

Acts 16:18 And this she did for many days. But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Yahushua Messiah to come out of her." And he came out that very hour.

Acts 18:15 "But if it is a question of words and names and your own law, look [to] [it] yourselves; for I do not want to be a judge of such [matters]."

Acts 19:5 When they heard [this], they were baptized in the name of the Master Yahushua.

Acts 19:13 Then some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists took it upon themselves to call the name of the Master Yahushua over those who had evil spirits, saying, "We exorcise you by the Yahushua whom Paul preaches."

Acts 19:17 This became known both to all Jews and Greeks dwelling in Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Master Yahushua was magnified.

Acts 21:13 Then Paul answered, "What do you mean by weeping and breaking my heart? For I am ready not only to be bound, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Master Yahushua."

And this is just in the book of Acts! The name of Yahushua is intricately linked with the person of Yahushua. So in light of the numerous scriptures which show us the importance of His name, we should at least seek to understand how it is pronounced. It is obviously important according to scripture.

Origin of the name "Jesus"

According to the American Heritage Dictionary, the etymological origin of "Jesus" is:

Jesus ..Middle English, from Late Latin Isus, from Greek Isous, from Hebrew y"", from yh""a", Joshua...

Notice that it says that the origin of His name is from Latin, then Greek, then Hebrew. So the name "Jesus" is the result of 3 different languages placing their influence on the original name the disciples were proclaiming, baptizing in and praying in. Some of the influence is quite recent. In the 1611 King James Version, it originally had "Iesus" rather than "Jesus" (photo). Later revisions of the KJV changed it to "Jesus". This leads me to ask some important questions: "Who is the one who gets to decide what it is changed to? Man or Yahweh? And if Yahushua is supposed to be the same yesterday, today and forever, why do they keep changing His name?"

If you look up the name "Jesus" in a Strong's lexicon it has "Iesous":

"2424 Iesous ee-ay-sooce' of Hebrew origin (3091); Jesus (i.e. Jehoshua), the name of our Lord and two (three) other Israelites:--Jesus."

LOL LOL LOL LOL. This guy post that Jesus is the named of our Lord.
No, twister, Sower did not state that I never wrote that. I quoted that and you are reading it out of context because you are a liar.