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AlbinoBunny
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6/24/2013 10:21:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The Absurd-Stability Argument

P1: The natural world seems to work via cause and effect.

P2: For this cause and effect to remain constant, stability is required.

C1: P1, P2; The natural world requires stability.

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P3: A triangle is the most stable 2D shape, the tetrahedron is the most stable 3D, shape.

P4: A hyper-tetrahedron is the logical next step in 4D to the triangle in 2D and the tetrahedron in 3D.

C2: P3, P4; It is very likely that the hyper-tetrahedron is the most stable 4D shape.

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P5: A hyper-tetrahedron probably has five, discrete, different, interconnected vertices, which rely on each others' existences to be able to exist themselves.

P6: Cause and effect works in four dimensions.

C3: C2, P5, P6; A hyper-tetrahedron, as described, is the most stable structure which can provide stability for cause and effect.

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P7: Stability requires a form of compensation, if one side changes, the other needs to change in the opposite manner to provide stability.

P8: The best form of compensation comes from conscious beings, which can create active compensation.

C4: P7, P8; Consciousness is much better at providing stability than non-consciousness.

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P9: Stability is much better provided externally than internally.

P10: To be external of the natural universe, such a thing needs to be transcendent.

C5: P9, P10; Stability is better provided by a transcendent thing.

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C6: C1, C2, C3, C4, C5; The stability of our universe is best explained by five, discrete, different, interconnected, conscious and transcendent beings, which rely on each other for their own existence.

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P11: A transcendent and conscious being can be considered a god.

C7: C6, P11; It is more likely than not that --

Five, discrete, different, interconnected gods, which rely on each other for their own existence, exist.

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Voila!
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6/24/2013 11:33:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Rabbid rabbit, I tried reading this but after the 3rd sentence my eye balls started to pop out of my head. Do you have something like Winnie the poo instead?
This stuff is weird you have up there.
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6/24/2013 11:43:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/24/2013 11:33:02 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
Rabbid rabbit, I tried reading this but after the 3rd sentence my eye balls started to pop out of my head. Do you have something like Winnie the poo instead?
This stuff is weird you have up there.

Most proofs for gods elicit that reaction.
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6/24/2013 11:44:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/24/2013 11:33:51 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
Albino, what or who do you bow down to every morning?

The East; land of the rising Sun.
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6/24/2013 11:45:41 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/24/2013 11:44:17 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
Nope still nothing.
Try again.

Are you an Easter sun worshiper that prays into a mirror?
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6/24/2013 11:46:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/24/2013 11:44:17 PM, Sower4GS wrote:
Nope still nothing.
Try again.

I have proven the five gods. Refute or kaboot.
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6/25/2013 1:36:39 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Bunny,
I could suggest that you use this as your sig, but you probably wouldn't have room for anything else.
But then again you wouldn't need anything else.lol
HUZZAH
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6/25/2013 10:20:17 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/24/2013 10:21:25 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
The Absurd-Stability Argument

P1: The natural world seems to work via cause and effect.

P2: For this cause and effect to remain constant, stability is required.

C1: P1, P2; The natural world requires stability.

---

P3: A triangle is the most stable 2D shape, the tetrahedron is the most stable 3D, shape.

P4: A hyper-tetrahedron is the logical next step in 4D to the triangle in 2D and the tetrahedron in 3D.

C2: P3, P4; It is very likely that the hyper-tetrahedron is the most stable 4D shape.

---

P5: A hyper-tetrahedron probably has five, discrete, different, interconnected vertices, which rely on each others' existences to be able to exist themselves.

P6: Cause and effect works in four dimensions.

C3: C2, P5, P6; A hyper-tetrahedron, as described, is the most stable structure which can provide stability for cause and effect.

---

P7: Stability requires a form of compensation, if one side changes, the other needs to change in the opposite manner to provide stability.

P8: The best form of compensation comes from conscious beings, which can create active compensation.

C4: P7, P8; Consciousness is much better at providing stability than non-consciousness.

---

P9: Stability is much better provided externally than internally.

P10: To be external of the natural universe, such a thing needs to be transcendent.

C5: P9, P10; Stability is better provided by a transcendent thing.

---

C6: C1, C2, C3, C4, C5; The stability of our universe is best explained by five, discrete, different, interconnected, conscious and transcendent beings, which rely on each other for their own existence.

---

P11: A transcendent and conscious being can be considered a god.

C7: C6, P11; It is more likely than not that --

Five, discrete, different, interconnected gods, which rely on each other for their own existence, exist.

---

Voila!

Do a debate on this.
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6/27/2013 9:02:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/25/2013 10:20:17 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:
At 6/24/2013 10:21:25 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
The Absurd-Stability Argument

P1: The natural world seems to work via cause and effect.

P2: For this cause and effect to remain constant, stability is required.

C1: P1, P2; The natural world requires stability.

---

P3: A triangle is the most stable 2D shape, the tetrahedron is the most stable 3D, shape.

P4: A hyper-tetrahedron is the logical next step in 4D to the triangle in 2D and the tetrahedron in 3D.

C2: P3, P4; It is very likely that the hyper-tetrahedron is the most stable 4D shape.

---

P5: A hyper-tetrahedron probably has five, discrete, different, interconnected vertices, which rely on each others' existences to be able to exist themselves.

P6: Cause and effect works in four dimensions.

C3: C2, P5, P6; A hyper-tetrahedron, as described, is the most stable structure which can provide stability for cause and effect.

---

P7: Stability requires a form of compensation, if one side changes, the other needs to change in the opposite manner to provide stability.

P8: The best form of compensation comes from conscious beings, which can create active compensation.

C4: P7, P8; Consciousness is much better at providing stability than non-consciousness.

---

P9: Stability is much better provided externally than internally.

P10: To be external of the natural universe, such a thing needs to be transcendent.

C5: P9, P10; Stability is better provided by a transcendent thing.

---

C6: C1, C2, C3, C4, C5; The stability of our universe is best explained by five, discrete, different, interconnected, conscious and transcendent beings, which rely on each other for their own existence.

---

P11: A transcendent and conscious being can be considered a god.

C7: C6, P11; It is more likely than not that --

Five, discrete, different, interconnected gods, which rely on each other for their own existence, exist.

---

Voila!

Do a debate on this.
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6/27/2013 10:47:03 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/27/2013 10:39:19 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Gotta love stings of non-sequiturs.

Yeah, I stopped after the first one. Just to be sure, this is all a joke, right?
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6/27/2013 11:20:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/27/2013 10:47:03 PM, DakotaKrafick wrote:
At 6/27/2013 10:39:19 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Gotta love stings of non-sequiturs.

Yeah, I stopped after the first one. Just to be sure, this is all a joke, right?

Why would some one with peace and acess to the creators sense of humor not kid around with a serious flare?
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7/3/2013 6:42:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I have these different thoughts without getting deep in the premises..

- the pentathing is One thing not 5, just as the triangle is one not 3. so you got one God with at least 5 attributes, instead of 5 Gods!

-one of dimensions being time, here what I got about it:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Allah said: "The son of Adam hurts Me by abusing Time, for I am Time; in My Hands are all things and I cause the revolution of night and day.' " (See Hadith No. 351, Vol. 6)

Note: here the translator said "Hurts", and I don't know how accurate this translation is. and said "Abuse" and it includes insulting and cursing. but the fruits is God saying He is time.
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7/3/2013 7:53:37 PM
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At 6/27/2013 10:39:19 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Gotta love stings of non-sequiturs.

It's legit.
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7/3/2013 7:53:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/27/2013 10:47:03 PM, DakotaKrafick wrote:
At 6/27/2013 10:39:19 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Gotta love stings of non-sequiturs.

Yeah, I stopped after the first one. Just to be sure, this is all a joke, right?

Nahh.
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7/3/2013 7:55:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 6:42:35 PM, Fruitytree wrote:
I have these different thoughts without getting deep in the premises..

- the pentathing is One thing not 5, just as the triangle is one not 3. so you got one God with at least 5 attributes, instead of 5 Gods!

It has five vertices, one for each of the gods. The single structure just shows their dependency on each other and their support for each other.


-one of dimensions being time, here what I got about it:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Allah said: "The son of Adam hurts Me by abusing Time, for I am Time; in My Hands are all things and I cause the revolution of night and day.' " (See Hadith No. 351, Vol. 6)

Note: here the translator said "Hurts", and I don't know how accurate this translation is. and said "Abuse" and it includes insulting and cursing. but the fruits is God saying He is time.

Allah is irrelevant.
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7/3/2013 11:44:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 7:53:56 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 6/27/2013 10:47:03 PM, DakotaKrafick wrote:
At 6/27/2013 10:39:19 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Gotta love stings of non-sequiturs.

Yeah, I stopped after the first one. Just to be sure, this is all a joke, right?

Nahh.

I think the orange is screwing with my ability to detect sarcasm.
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7/4/2013 7:07:38 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/3/2013 7:55:32 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 7/3/2013 6:42:35 PM, Fruitytree wrote:
I have these different thoughts without getting deep in the premises..

- the pentathing is One thing not 5, just as the triangle is one not 3. so you got one God with at least 5 attributes, instead of 5 Gods!

It has five vertices, one for each of the gods. The single structure just shows their dependency on each other and their support for each other.


Why wound it rather be parted into five?! there is nothing that suggest that!

-one of dimensions being time, here what I got about it:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Allah said: "The son of Adam hurts Me by abusing Time, for I am Time; in My Hands are all things and I cause the revolution of night and day.' " (See Hadith No. 351, Vol. 6)

Note: here the translator said "Hurts", and I don't know how accurate this translation is. and said "Abuse" and it includes insulting and cursing. but the fruits is God saying He is time.

Allah is irrelevant.

In what way?

I think Allah is the God you came to believe, although you still think He is 5, but this is just a logical mistake.
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7/4/2013 12:13:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/4/2013 7:07:38 AM, Fruitytree wrote:
At 7/3/2013 7:55:32 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 7/3/2013 6:42:35 PM, Fruitytree wrote:
I have these different thoughts without getting deep in the premises..

- the pentathing is One thing not 5, just as the triangle is one not 3. so you got one God with at least 5 attributes, instead of 5 Gods!

It has five vertices, one for each of the gods. The single structure just shows their dependency on each other and their support for each other.



Why wound it rather be parted into five?! there is nothing that suggest that!

What?


-one of dimensions being time, here what I got about it:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Allah said: "The son of Adam hurts Me by abusing Time, for I am Time; in My Hands are all things and I cause the revolution of night and day.' " (See Hadith No. 351, Vol. 6)

Note: here the translator said "Hurts", and I don't know how accurate this translation is. and said "Abuse" and it includes insulting and cursing. but the fruits is God saying He is time.

Allah is irrelevant.

In what way?

I think Allah is the God you came to believe, although you still think He is 5, but this is just a logical mistake.

Nope, my gods aren't that interested in humanity, they don't mind if we eat pigs.
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7/4/2013 12:40:48 PM
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At 7/4/2013 12:13:09 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:

What? Look I don't understand how you went from one entity and parted it into 5 . Having 4 dimensions is no excuse. It would be like me saying, Allah has N attributes, then He isn't one but N.
Nope, my gods aren't that interested in humanity, they don't mind if we eat pigs.

How do you know ?!
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7/4/2013 12:41:36 PM
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At 7/4/2013 12:13:09 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:

What? Look I don't understand how you went from one entity and parted it into 5 . Having 4 dimensions is no excuse. It would be like me saying, Allah has N attributes, then He isn't one but N.
Nope, my gods aren't that interested in humanity, they don't mind if we eat pigs.

How do you know ?!
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7/5/2013 12:50:59 AM
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Wouldn't a 5D shape be even more stable by this line of reasoning and a 6D even moreso all the way up to an infinite dimensional shape. God con be the only infinite denominational shape. There fore there is only one God of infinite dimension.
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7/5/2013 1:18:28 AM
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At 7/5/2013 12:50:59 AM, BennyW wrote:
Wouldn't a 5D shape be even more stable by this line of reasoning and a 6D even moreso all the way up to an infinite dimensional shape. God can be the only infinite denominational shape. Therefore there is only one God of infinite dimension.

fixed
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