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wordy
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8/4/2013 8:24:28 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Define God. What is the definition of God? Is the definition of God subjective? If the definition of subjective, does that mean that you will still be an atheist by believing in God. This kind of situation may occur if God's definition is subjective. I'll use an example as a model to clarify my point. By defining God not as the superior being, an atheist can believe in the existence of him.
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8/4/2013 8:26:43 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 8:24:28 AM, wordy wrote:
Define God. What is the definition of God? Is the definition of God subjective? If the definition of subjective,
-->definition of *God
matt.mcguire88
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8/4/2013 9:01:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 8:24:28 AM, wordy wrote:
Define God. What is the definition of God? Is the definition of God subjective? If the definition of subjective, does that mean that you will still be an atheist by believing in God. This kind of situation may occur if God's definition is subjective. I'll use an example as a model to clarify my point. By defining God not as the superior being, an atheist can believe in the existence of him.

Since God is individual the subject should derive from the object. I don't think the atheist could believe in any sort of god/gods seeing that it is rather obvious that they don't believe in any life beyond the physical and certainly not eternity as far as I can tell.
Why define God as NOT a superior Being when He is lol? How is that going to persuade the atheist to believe?
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8/4/2013 9:24:09 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Amazing topic for a thread! Thank you for making this... In my opinion this is the most important thing about God and religion.. that it is defined as 'beyond understanding' and so is basically centered around an abstract, which is a big problem.
"Logic is the money of the mind." - Karl Marx
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8/4/2013 9:42:21 AM
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An atheist is only an atheist if they completely reject the concept of a higher being or power.
Turn around, go back.
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8/4/2013 9:48:28 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 9:42:21 AM, Mysterious_Stranger wrote:
An atheist is only an atheist if they completely reject the concept of a higher being or power.

What if we define God as not a higher being or power..
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8/4/2013 9:49:41 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 9:24:09 AM, sdavio wrote:
Amazing topic for a thread! Thank you for making this... In my opinion this is the most important thing about God and religion.. that it is defined as 'beyond understanding' and so is basically centered around an abstract, which is a big problem.

You're welcome. Thanks for the compliment.
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8/4/2013 9:57:22 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 9:48:28 AM, wordy wrote:
At 8/4/2013 9:42:21 AM, Mysterious_Stranger wrote:
An atheist is only an atheist if they completely reject the concept of a higher being or power.

What if we define God as not a higher being or power..

How so? I have always perceived the concept of God as a power or being, what would your interpretation be?
Turn around, go back.
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8/4/2013 10:03:50 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 9:48:28 AM, wordy wrote:
At 8/4/2013 9:42:21 AM, Mysterious_Stranger wrote:
An atheist is only an atheist if they completely reject the concept of a higher being or power.

What if we define God as not a higher being or power..

What if we define god as a cockroach. Would that do? It would for me except for one problem. We know cockroaches exist. Bugger that screws god. Never mind there are plenty more to go around. Like cockroaches.
matt.mcguire88
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8/4/2013 10:33:43 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 9:48:28 AM, wordy wrote:
At 8/4/2013 9:42:21 AM, Mysterious_Stranger wrote:
An atheist is only an atheist if they completely reject the concept of a higher being or power.

What if we define God as not a higher being or power..

Could you answer my last question please? so I can understand your point. I don't think it's the definition that creeps out the atheist, I think it's the concept in general, they also have a physical perspective that debilitates them.
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8/4/2013 10:47:23 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 10:40:44 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
I like Neil Degrasse Tyson's definition: God is just an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance.

Your comments lately are becoming less and less insightful lol. Are you no longer thinking ?
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8/4/2013 10:50:22 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 10:47:23 AM, matt.mcguire88 wrote:
At 8/4/2013 10:40:44 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
I like Neil Degrasse Tyson's definition: God is just an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance.

Your comments lately are becoming less and less insightful lol. Are you no longer thinking ?

What I said is actually very insightful, and true (I am always thinking). Neil Degrasse Tyson is one of the most insightful men in the world. The question I have for you is: when will you start thinking? I don't think have ever read anything insightful from you.
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8/4/2013 10:53:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 10:50:22 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 8/4/2013 10:47:23 AM, matt.mcguire88 wrote:
At 8/4/2013 10:40:44 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
I like Neil Degrasse Tyson's definition: God is just an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance.

Your comments lately are becoming less and less insightful lol. Are you no longer thinking ?

What I said is actually very insightful, and true (I am always thinking). Neil Degrasse Tyson is one of the most insightful men in the world. The question I have for you is: when will you start thinking? I don't think have ever read anything insightful from you.

Well thank you, unfortunately I think ALL the time lol, it's just spontaneous.
bulproof
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8/4/2013 10:53:15 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 10:47:23 AM, matt.mcguire88 wrote:
At 8/4/2013 10:40:44 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
I like Neil Degrasse Tyson's definition: God is just an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance.

Your comments lately are becoming less and less insightful lol. Are you no longer thinking ?
Don't tedll me he's becoming a believer? Heaven and god and satan and mary and jesus and michael and gabriel and the wee cherubs forbid.
Oh nOooooooooo.
But those are the normal reasons for no longer thinking. Just saying.
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8/4/2013 11:02:41 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 10:50:22 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 8/4/2013 10:47:23 AM, matt.mcguire88 wrote:
At 8/4/2013 10:40:44 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
I like Neil Degrasse Tyson's definition: God is just an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance.

Your comments lately are becoming less and less insightful lol. Are you no longer thinking ?

What I said is actually very insightful, and true (I am always thinking). Neil Degrasse Tyson is one of the most insightful men in the world. The question I have for you is: when will you start thinking? I don't think have ever read anything insightful from you.

That wasn't really meant as an insult lol, less insightful as apposed to insightful. I've enjoyed reading some of your thoughts.
matt.mcguire88
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8/4/2013 11:03:50 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 11:02:41 AM, matt.mcguire88 wrote:
At 8/4/2013 10:50:22 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 8/4/2013 10:47:23 AM, matt.mcguire88 wrote:
At 8/4/2013 10:40:44 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
I like Neil Degrasse Tyson's definition: God is just an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance.

Your comments lately are becoming less and less insightful lol. Are you no longer thinking ?

What I said is actually very insightful, and true (I am always thinking). Neil Degrasse Tyson is one of the most insightful men in the world. The question I have for you is: when will you start thinking? I don't think have ever read anything insightful from you.

That wasn't really meant as an insult lol, less insightful as apposed to insightful. I've enjoyed reading some of your thoughts.

"opposed"
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8/4/2013 11:21:34 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 8:24:28 AM, wordy wrote:
Define God. What is the definition of God? Is the definition of God subjective? If the definition of subjective, does that mean that you will still be an atheist by believing in God. This kind of situation may occur if God's definition is subjective. I'll use an example as a model to clarify my point. By defining God not as the superior being, an atheist can believe in the existence of him.

I think that the concept of God will always be a god and that means you can't believe in God and be an atheist simultaneously.
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8/4/2013 11:23:06 AM
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At 8/4/2013 9:01:59 AM, matt.mcguire88 wrote:
At 8/4/2013 8:24:28 AM, wordy wrote:
Define God. What is the definition of God? Is the definition of God subjective? If the definition of subjective, does that mean that you will still be an atheist by believing in God. This kind of situation may occur if God's definition is subjective. I'll use an example as a model to clarify my point. By defining God not as the superior being, an atheist can believe in the existence of him.

Since God is individual the subject should derive from the object. I don't think the atheist could believe in any sort of god/gods seeing that it is rather obvious that they don't believe in any life beyond the physical and certainly not eternity as far as I can tell.
Why define God as NOT a superior Being when He is lol? How is that going to persuade the atheist to believe?

I'm glad someone understands about a god and gods, not just God. People seem to forget about that. lol
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8/4/2013 11:31:47 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 11:23:06 AM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 8/4/2013 9:01:59 AM, matt.mcguire88 wrote:
At 8/4/2013 8:24:28 AM, wordy wrote:
Define God. What is the definition of God? Is the definition of God subjective? If the definition of subjective, does that mean that you will still be an atheist by believing in God. This kind of situation may occur if God's definition is subjective. I'll use an example as a model to clarify my point. By defining God not as the superior being, an atheist can believe in the existence of him.

Since God is individual the subject should derive from the object. I don't think the atheist could believe in any sort of god/gods seeing that it is rather obvious that they don't believe in any life beyond the physical and certainly not eternity as far as I can tell.
Why define God as NOT a superior Being when He is lol? How is that going to persuade the atheist to believe?

I'm glad someone understands about a god and gods, not just God. People seem to forget about that. lol

An uppercase letter changes the property of these imaginary beings? Wow who woulda thunk that poor wee humans had so much control over infinite entities?
Ffuuck!!
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8/4/2013 11:44:47 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 11:23:06 AM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 8/4/2013 9:01:59 AM, matt.mcguire88 wrote:
At 8/4/2013 8:24:28 AM, wordy wrote:
Define God. What is the definition of God? Is the definition of God subjective? If the definition of subjective, does that mean that you will still be an atheist by believing in God. This kind of situation may occur if God's definition is subjective. I'll use an example as a model to clarify my point. By defining God not as the superior being, an atheist can believe in the existence of him.

Since God is individual the subject should derive from the object. I don't think the atheist could believe in any sort of god/gods seeing that it is rather obvious that they don't believe in any life beyond the physical and certainly not eternity as far as I can tell.
Why define God as NOT a superior Being when He is lol? How is that going to persuade the atheist to believe?

I'm glad someone understands about a god and gods, not just God. People seem to forget about that. lol

lol
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8/4/2013 12:27:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/4/2013 11:31:47 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/4/2013 11:23:06 AM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 8/4/2013 9:01:59 AM, matt.mcguire88 wrote:
At 8/4/2013 8:24:28 AM, wordy wrote:
Define God. What is the definition of God? Is the definition of God subjective? If the definition of subjective, does that mean that you will still be an atheist by believing in God. This kind of situation may occur if God's definition is subjective. I'll use an example as a model to clarify my point. By defining God not as the superior being, an atheist can believe in the existence of him.

Since God is individual the subject should derive from the object. I don't think the atheist could believe in any sort of god/gods seeing that it is rather obvious that they don't believe in any life beyond the physical and certainly not eternity as far as I can tell.
Why define God as NOT a superior Being when He is lol? How is that going to persuade the atheist to believe?

I'm glad someone understands about a god and gods, not just God. People seem to forget about that. lol

An uppercase letter changes the property of these imaginary beings? Wow who woulda thunk that poor wee humans had so much control over infinite entities?
Ffuuck!!

It makes it a name (proper noun?), which makes it specific. God is not synonymous with and god and all gods, it almost always is to do with the Abrahamic religions, but people use it often to talk about any god.
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