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Wallstreetatheist
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8/8/2013 2:21:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Once every few months I ask the religious to provide strong evidence for the existence of their god/s.

So... You guys come up with any evidence yet that would be reasonable to base belief in a supernatural deity on?
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Nur-Ab-Sal
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8/8/2013 2:23:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Idk go review some of the arguments for God's existence. I'm assuming that you've come across at least one in the time you've spent on this debate site.
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8/8/2013 2:45:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I mean evidence as in evidence, not argument as in argument. Nevertheless, strong evidence and strong argument are required for reasonable belief in a deity; and strong evidence is an integral component to provide in a strong argument.
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8/9/2013 3:30:17 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/9/2013 3:05:40 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Basically though: http://www.quickmeme.com...

Read books.
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8/9/2013 4:08:37 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/9/2013 3:30:17 AM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 8/9/2013 3:05:40 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Basically though: http://www.quickmeme.com...

Read book
fixed that for ya
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8/9/2013 4:12:23 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/9/2013 4:08:37 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/9/2013 3:30:17 AM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 8/9/2013 3:05:40 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Basically though: http://www.quickmeme.com...

Read book
fixed that for ya

...he walked right into that one.
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Homosapien
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8/9/2013 4:20:54 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/8/2013 2:21:15 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Once every few months I ask the religious to provide strong evidence for the existence of their god/s.

So... You guys come up with any evidence yet that would be reasonable to base belief in a supernatural deity on?

I think it would be valuable, before making a case for such a demand to point out a few distinctions.

Deism is radically different to Theism (source 1)

Asking anyone to provide evidence for a deity is unfair, because it is an un-falsifiable statement (source 2)

In fact those who do believe arguably the majority are monotheists, take it on faith, asking them to provide evidence is a perfectly rational thing to do but you may find they prefer to have the argument on different terms.

The corollary is that if evidence is provided for a deity, there is no logical suggestion that such a deity is an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient force in the world, it's an entirely different distinction and one that our fellow Atheists would do well to make clear before engaging in any argument.

Best Regards,
Ben

Source 1:
http://en.wikipedia.org...
http://en.wikipedia.org...

Source 2:
http://www.scientificanews.com...
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8/9/2013 4:25:22 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/9/2013 4:22:27 AM, FREEDO wrote:
Chaos is everywhere. Eris is Chaos. Therefore, Eris exists.

How does the existence of the large dwarf planet demonstrate there is a God?

http://en.wikipedia.org...(dwarf_planet)
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8/9/2013 4:27:51 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/9/2013 4:08:37 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/9/2013 3:30:17 AM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 8/9/2013 3:05:40 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Basically though: http://www.quickmeme.com...

Read book
fixed that for ya

That's now grammatically incorrect, and the bible is a collection of multiple books, so....

Yeah.
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8/9/2013 4:28:55 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/9/2013 4:22:27 AM, FREEDO wrote:
Chaos is everywhere. Eris is Chaos. Therefore, Eris exists.

Riposte with Open Question Argument:

I did not know Eris is Chaos
Therefore the meaning of Eris is larger than just chaos.
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8/9/2013 4:29:53 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/9/2013 4:25:22 AM, Homosapien wrote:
At 8/9/2013 4:22:27 AM, FREEDO wrote:
Chaos is everywhere. Eris is Chaos. Therefore, Eris exists.

How does the existence of the large dwarf planet demonstrate there is a God?

http://en.wikipedia.org...(dwarf_planet)

Well, I suppose it doesn't. Just that there's a Goddess.
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8/9/2013 4:30:08 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/9/2013 4:28:55 AM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
At 8/9/2013 4:22:27 AM, FREEDO wrote:
Chaos is everywhere. Eris is Chaos. Therefore, Eris exists.

Riposte with Open Question Argument:

I did not know Eris is Chaos
Therefore the meaning of Eris is larger than just chaos.

Yes.
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8/9/2013 4:37:54 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/9/2013 4:29:53 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 8/9/2013 4:25:22 AM, Homosapien wrote:
At 8/9/2013 4:22:27 AM, FREEDO wrote:
Chaos is everywhere. Eris is Chaos. Therefore, Eris exists.

How does the existence of the large dwarf planet demonstrate there is a God?

http://en.wikipedia.org...(dwarf_planet)

Well, I suppose it doesn't. Just that there's a Goddess.

Okhams razor (source 1) would suggest that such a statement is incorrect, the Goddess explanation for the existence of chaos is more complex than the alternative chaos theory (source 2).

Best Regards,
Ben

Source 1:
http://en.wikipedia.org...'s_razor

Source 2:
http://www.scholarpedia.org...
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"Stupid because you didn't warrant or impact your moronic arguments. That's all you will ever be good for."
"You're making stupid assumptions, as usual. "
"You really are an arrogant buffoon, aren't you?"
"You're just coming off as extremely arrogant and condescending."