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suttichart.denpruektham
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8/22/2013 10:21:01 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Can it?

When I think of it carefully, I found that democracy (and perhaps other political ideology) have many characteristics that normally associated with religion.

It is an organized collection of belief, it serve as part of a cultural system (especially in many western world), it has a supernatural object of worship.. ..that is Liberty, the Greek goddess of freedom.

For me it looks very mush that democracy, is very mush like a cult of liberty and very mush religious in nature.
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8/22/2013 1:57:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
No.
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8/22/2013 1:59:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/22/2013 10:21:01 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
Can it?

When I think of it carefully, I found that democracy (and perhaps other political ideology) have many characteristics that normally associated with religion.

It is an organized collection of belief, it serve as part of a cultural system (especially in many western world), it has a supernatural object of worship.. ..that is Liberty, the Greek goddess of freedom.

For me it looks very mush that democracy, is very mush like a cult of liberty and very mush religious in nature.

All religions, religious ideas, false gods ( buildings and things built with human hands ), cities, governments, countries, etc. came from God's planned "beast" as a delusion but also to teach men how to build things until the latest technology was in place to help us understand that we're created as energy.
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8/23/2013 4:12:00 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/22/2013 1:59:38 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 8/22/2013 10:21:01 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
Can it?

When I think of it carefully, I found that democracy (and perhaps other political ideology) have many characteristics that normally associated with religion.

It is an organized collection of belief, it serve as part of a cultural system (especially in many western world), it has a supernatural object of worship.. ..that is Liberty, the Greek goddess of freedom.

For me it looks very mush that democracy, is very mush like a cult of liberty and very mush religious in nature.

All religions, religious ideas, false gods ( buildings and things built with human hands ), cities, governments, countries, etc. came from God's planned "beast" as a delusion but also to teach men how to build things until the latest technology was in place to help us understand that we're created as energy.

Well, I didn't really think of it as a religion in Christian sense. It more like a religion in political and legal environment.

In the past most of the kings, lord, or political leader draw their powers from religion. The kings in Christian kingdom have their authority because they are the protector of Christian faith and are chosen by god (or at least pope). The kings in eastern kingdom even claimed themselves to be a god or god descendant, or heavenly chosen.

Most of the leaders now a day, draw their authority from a democratic election, thus democracy have been more or less fulfilling the role that traditionally perform by religion.

It also share all the strengths and weaknesses of religion performance in politic. It unified idea and belief in the masses, it limited influence of other believe that could cause dissident and fracturing political authority (i.e. socialism, communism etc.). So in practice, it look very mush similar how the two operate in politic.
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8/23/2013 4:23:44 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/23/2013 4:12:00 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
At 8/22/2013 1:59:38 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 8/22/2013 10:21:01 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
Can it?

When I think of it carefully, I found that democracy (and perhaps other political ideology) have many characteristics that normally associated with religion.

It is an organized collection of belief, it serve as part of a cultural system (especially in many western world), it has a supernatural object of worship.. ..that is Liberty, the Greek goddess of freedom.

For me it looks very mush that democracy, is very mush like a cult of liberty and very mush religious in nature.

All religions, religious ideas, false gods ( buildings and things built with human hands ), cities, governments, countries, etc. came from God's planned "beast" as a delusion but also to teach men how to build things until the latest technology was in place to help us understand that we're created as energy.

Well, I didn't really think of it as a religion in Christian sense. It more like a religion in political and legal environment.

In the past most of the kings, lord, or political leader draw their powers from religion. The kings in Christian kingdom have their authority because they are the protector of Christian faith and are chosen by god (or at least pope). The kings in eastern kingdom even claimed themselves to be a god or god descendant, or heavenly chosen.

Most of the leaders now a day, draw their authority from a democratic election, thus democracy have been more or less fulfilling the role that traditionally perform by religion.

It also share all the strengths and weaknesses of religion performance in politic. It unified idea and belief in the masses, it limited influence of other believe that could cause dissident and fracturing political authority (i.e. socialism, communism etc.). So in practice, it look very mush similar how the two operate in politic.

Short answer is no. Just because two things share characteristics doesn't put them into the same category.

But there is no need to get hung on on definitions and creating categories and sorting out what goes into what. What I think ultimately matters here is belief and the actions or non actions that are a result of those beliefs.
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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8/23/2013 10:28:48 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/23/2013 4:12:00 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
At 8/22/2013 1:59:38 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 8/22/2013 10:21:01 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:
Can it?

When I think of it carefully, I found that democracy (and perhaps other political ideology) have many characteristics that normally associated with religion.

It is an organized collection of belief, it serve as part of a cultural system (especially in many western world), it has a supernatural object of worship.. ..that is Liberty, the Greek goddess of freedom.

For me it looks very mush that democracy, is very mush like a cult of liberty and very mush religious in nature.

All religions, religious ideas, false gods ( buildings and things built with human hands ), cities, governments, countries, etc. came from God's planned "beast" as a delusion but also to teach men how to build things until the latest technology was in place to help us understand that we're created as energy.

Well, I didn't really think of it as a religion in Christian sense. It more like a religion in political and legal environment.

In the past most of the kings, lord, or political leader draw their powers from religion. The kings in Christian kingdom have their authority because they are the protector of Christian faith and are chosen by god (or at least pope). The kings in eastern kingdom even claimed themselves to be a god or god descendant, or heavenly chosen.

Most of the leaders now a day, draw their authority from a democratic election, thus democracy have been more or less fulfilling the role that traditionally perform by religion.

It also share all the strengths and weaknesses of religion performance in politic. It unified idea and belief in the masses, it limited influence of other believe that could cause dissident and fracturing political authority (i.e. socialism, communism etc.). So in practice, it look very mush similar how the two operate in politic.

Everything you see in this world today came out of the "beast", which is God's plan to deceive His people but at the same time, get them to build things (false gods) to teach us saints how He created everything as invisible wavelengths of energy, spoken into existence through His first creation called "the Word of God".
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8/24/2013 3:58:41 AM
Posted: 3 years ago

Short answer is no. Just because two things share characteristics doesn't put them into the same category.

Why so, if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck isn't it a duck?

But there is no need to get hung on on definitions and creating categories and sorting out what goes into what. What I think ultimately matters here is belief and the actions or non actions that are a result of those beliefs.

Actually, it is. If political idea is the same thing as religion, it deserve the same treatment so. For example, if political idea is a sort of belief , its freedom of expression should be protected the same way as how the muslim can freely preached and practiced his religion in the western world. Communism sentiment should be freed to express in the free world and vise versa. It also shouldn't be taught in school because it forces the student to accept its ideology the same way as religion.
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8/24/2013 4:13:14 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 8/24/2013 3:58:41 AM, suttichart.denpruektham wrote:

Short answer is no. Just because two things share characteristics doesn't put them into the same category.

Why so, if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck isn't it a duck?

Only if it is a duck.
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12