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LoopsEye
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9/21/2013 12:25:36 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
What makes people so emotional here?
when they see the light from darkness..
when they see the truth in societies thousand lies..
when the inner soul cries out..
when the outer cover breaks off..
when the word frustrates them..
when they want peace and love..
when they come to seek the love..

such diginifed is the entrance in Islam.

Its Worlds Most Fastest Growing Religion (Christian Encyclopaedism & Encyclopedia Britannica)

by 2050 it will be the Largest Religion of World
http://www.debate.org...

Most Converts are Women.

Which Sword is Driving them?
Which Terror is Hitting them?

Islam is Terrorism! Islam is Intolerant! Islam is Savage!

are people becoming terrorist at fastest speed?

In west most spreading religion is not Christianity but Islam.

Ask your self?

Why are they rushing towards Islam?

Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson rightly says, "People who worry that nuclear weaponry will one day fall in the hands of the Arabs, fail to realize that the Islamic bomb has been dropped already, it fell the day MUHAMMAD was born".

Have you seen the top ten misconceptions about Islam??

By a NON MUSLIM Mouth??

http://listverse.com...

No. 7 is Religious Intolerance
6 Islamic Jihad
5 Child Bride
4 Muslim Savages
3 Women"s Rights
2 By the Sword
1 Islamic Terrorism

Islam means peace not terrorism!

Islam is not spread by Sword

Islam gave status to Women

Islamic Arms have 10 strict Laws to follow its not savage!

.Do not commit treachery
2.Do not deviate from the right path
3.Do not mutilate dead bodies
4.Do not kill children
5.Do not kill women
6.Do not kill aged men
7.Do not harm or burn trees
8.Do not destroy buildings
9.Do not destroy an enemy"s flock, unless you use it for your food
10.When you pass people who have devoted their lives to monastic services leave them alone

CAN WE COMPARE EZEKIEL WITH THIS??

A MESSAGE OF PEACE FOR ALL...

PLEASE SPREAD THE LOVE NOT HATRED
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9/21/2013 12:36:12 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
LoopsEye The MUSLIM religion is a lie!! It is just this simple!
Jesus is God he is not just a prophet. God died on the cross so you would not. He took your sins upon himself out of love!
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9/21/2013 12:38:42 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
THE POST IS FOR OPEN MINDED PEOPLE ...

I THINK THERE IS NOTHING MORE UNBIASED THEN WHAT ISLAM PRESENTS ..

IMAGINE A WHITE HUGGING A BLACK

A MANAGER STANDING SHOULDER BY SHOULDER WITH HIS SERVANT

I REMEMBER A PICTURE WHERE A GATE KEEPER IS LEADING PRAYER OF ALL THE MANAGERS!

ITS ONLY ISLAM WHICH TELLS THAT ONLY PIETY IS THE STANDARD TO JUDGE ANY ONE

NOT GENDER
NOT RACE
NOT COLOUR
NOT AGE
ONLY PIETY
PROPHET(pbuh) SAID IN HIS LAST SERMON:

"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action."

Quran says:

"Whoever does deeds of righteousness, whether male or female, while being a believer " those will enter Paradise, and not the least injustice will be done to them."[4:124]

"For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for truthful men and women, for patient men and women, for humble men and women, for charitable men and women, for fasting men and women, for chaste men and women, and for men and women who remember God often " for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward."[33:35]
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9/21/2013 12:39:37 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 12:36:12 AM, Dogknox wrote:
LoopsEye The MUSLIM religion is a lie!! It is just this simple!
Jesus is God he is not just a prophet. God died on the cross so you would not. He took your sins upon himself out of love!

LoopsEye I add.... God became man! Born of the virgin Mary, Jesus became MAN! Clearly God cannot die if God is NOT first born!!
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9/21/2013 12:40:42 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 12:39:37 AM, Dogknox wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:36:12 AM, Dogknox wrote:
LoopsEye The MUSLIM religion is a lie!! It is just this simple!
Jesus is God he is not just a prophet. God died on the cross so you would not. He took your sins upon himself out of love!

LoopsEye I add.... God became man! Born of the virgin Mary, Jesus became MAN! Clearly God cannot die if God is NOT first born!!

The Christian WORSHIPS Jesus!
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9/21/2013 12:45:31 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 12:36:12 AM, Dogknox wrote:
LoopsEye The MUSLIM religion is a lie!! It is just this simple!
Jesus is God he is not just a prophet. God died on the cross so you would not. He took your sins upon himself out of love!

This is Our Jesus(PBUH) saying in Your Bible Brother...

The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.

"Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin."

Its about Son! and you talk about the Sin of Adam is upon me?

Please brother...!

and only stating that "Islam is a Lie" is not heard by anyone now.. Its Debate.Org

You can challange me dont write without evidence!
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9/21/2013 12:48:12 AM
Posted: 3 years ago

The Christian WORSHIPS Jesus!


but Jesus never asked to be worshiped... not a single unequivocal and unambiguous statement of bible says that Jesus claimed to be worshiped.
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9/21/2013 12:50:52 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 12:40:42 AM, Dogknox wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:39:37 AM, Dogknox wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:36:12 AM, Dogknox wrote:
LoopsEye The MUSLIM religion is a lie!! It is just this simple!
Jesus is God he is not just a prophet. God died on the cross so you would not. He took your sins upon himself out of love!

LoopsEye I add.... God became man! Born of the virgin Mary, Jesus became MAN! Clearly God cannot die if God is NOT first born!!

The Christian WORSHIPS Jesus!

Dogknox I will wait for ur debate challenge... regarding Islam what I claim and regarding christianty what you claim.
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9/21/2013 12:51:33 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 12:45:31 AM, LoopsEye wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:36:12 AM, Dogknox wrote:
LoopsEye The MUSLIM religion is a lie!! It is just this simple!
Jesus is God he is not just a prophet. God died on the cross so you would not. He took your sins upon himself out of love!

This is Our Jesus(PBUH) saying in Your Bible Brother...

The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.

"Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin."


Its about Son! and you talk about the Sin of Adam is upon me?

Please brother...!

and only stating that "Islam is a Lie" is not heard by anyone now.. Its Debate.Org


You can challange me dont write without evidence!
LoopsEye and your point is???

YES everyone is responsible for their own sins! The righteous are they who "DO RIGHT!"
Jesus was with out sin.. so Jesus CAN'T DIE!!!!!
Sin brings DEATH! Jesus died on the cross but he popped up out of the grave because he had no sin! No person can die more then one time.. You can't even kill a stinking dog twice...!
Jesus can't die again so all peoples ADDED to the risen Jesus, also CAN'T die! It is just this simple!
LoopsEye reject the lie of Islam come to the LIGHT!
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9/21/2013 12:55:28 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
let this be about the title and we should not talk irralevent here

I have made a new topic "Jesus Mystery!" come there I would love to speak about it...
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9/21/2013 12:57:43 AM
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At 9/21/2013 12:48:12 AM, LoopsEye wrote:

The Christian WORSHIPS Jesus!


but Jesus never asked to be worshiped... not a single unequivocal and unambiguous statement of bible says that Jesus claimed to be worshiped.
Matthew 4:10
Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: "Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.""

LoopsEye do you agree with the words of Jesus to Satan!?
"WORSHIP IS ONLY FOR GOD"!

LOOK..
Matthew 2:11
On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.

LOOK..
Matthew 14:33
Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, "Truly you are the Son of God."

LOOK..
Matthew 28:9
Suddenly Jesus met them. "Greetings," he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him.

LoopsEye "WORSHIP IS ONLY FOR GOD"!

LOOK..
Matthew 28:17
When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted.

NEVER EVER does Jesus stop the worship of him!!!

LOOK..
27 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."
28 Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"


Jesus IS GOD!!!
Muhammad is a LIE!!!!
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9/21/2013 12:59:13 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 12:48:12 AM, LoopsEye wrote:

The Christian WORSHIPS Jesus!


but Jesus never asked to be worshiped... not a single unequivocal and unambiguous statement of bible says that Jesus claimed to be worshiped.

I think you need to read it and not listen to propaganda for your info. BTW what is someone who worships jesus called martyr?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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9/21/2013 12:59:17 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 12:25:36 AM, LoopsEye wrote:


What makes people so emotional here?
when they see the light from darkness..
when they see the truth in societies thousand lies..
when the inner soul cries out..
when the outer cover breaks off..
when the word frustrates them..
when they want peace and love..
when they come to seek the love..

such diginifed is the entrance in Islam.

Its Worlds Most Fastest Growing Religion (Christian Encyclopaedism & Encyclopedia Britannica)

by 2050 it will be the Largest Religion of World
http://www.debate.org...

This is a projected number based on conversions and birth rates. It assumes constancy, which is absurd.


Most Converts are Women.

Which Sword is Driving them?
Which Terror is Hitting them?

Islam is Terrorism! Islam is Intolerant! Islam is Savage!

are people becoming terrorist at fastest speed?

In west most spreading religion is not Christianity but Islam.

Ask your self?

Why are they rushing towards Islam?

Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson rightly says, "People who worry that nuclear weaponry will one day fall in the hands of the Arabs, fail to realize that the Islamic bomb has been dropped already, it fell the day MUHAMMAD was born".

Have you seen the top ten misconceptions about Islam??

By a NON MUSLIM Mouth??

http://listverse.com...

No. 7 is Religious Intolerance
6 Islamic Jihad
5 Child Bride
4 Muslim Savages
3 Women"s Rights
2 By the Sword
1 Islamic Terrorism


Islam means peace not terrorism!

Incorrect. Islam means submission before god.


Islam is not spread by Sword

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."

Quran, chapter 9, verse 5


Islam gave status to Women

Expound please.


Islamic Arms have 10 strict Laws to follow its not savage!

.Do not commit treachery
2.Do not deviate from the right path
3.Do not mutilate dead bodies
4.Do not kill children
5.Do not kill women
6.Do not kill aged men
7.Do not harm or burn trees
8.Do not destroy buildings
9.Do not destroy an enemy"s flock, unless you use it for your food
10.When you pass people who have devoted their lives to monastic services leave them alone


CAN WE COMPARE EZEKIEL WITH THIS??


A MESSAGE OF PEACE FOR ALL...

PLEASE SPREAD THE LOVE NOT HATRED
"Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm for science intact." - Carl Sagan

This is the response of the defenders of Sparta to the Commander of the Roman Army: "If you are a god, you will not hurt those who have never injured you. If you are a man, advance - you will find men equal to yourself. And women.
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9/21/2013 1:27:19 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 12:59:17 AM, muzebreak wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:25:36 AM, LoopsEye wrote:

Islam is not spread by Sword

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."

Quran, chapter 9, verse 5



I THANK YOU BROTHER FOR TAKING INTERST AND TALKING ABOUT IT...

Here is the answer:

Any piece of text, especially Historical Text should be read with great care, caution and within context. (The Holy Quran is not really Historical Text, it is the word of Almighty Allah, to be understood and followed till the end of the World, but that is my belief which you may not agree with, anyway... moving on...)

If you selectively quote passages of any text it may appear (to the not so well versed with the text) wrong, illegal, immoral, unjust. In case of the Holy Quran, the critics use this tactic to its full potential.

If you read the verse fully and the verse following the one you quote, you will realize that Islam is the most peaceful and forgiving religion.

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Chapter 9, verses 5 & 6:
5. But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

6. If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum(He may convert or not!), grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah. and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.

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Do you see the problems when people quote the verse out of context?

The Muslims and Pagans had signed a peace accord which the Pagans unilaterally broke. That is when Almighty Allah revealed these verse to his Messenger (Peace be upon Him). In these verses Almighty Allah gives an ultimatum to the Pagans to put right their affairs in 4 months or a declaration of War. And in the context of the War, Almighty Allah says this (Slay them, seize them, beleaguer them) to boost the morale of the Muslims. Any Army Commander, at the time of war will say this to pep up his troops.

But would any Army Commander in any day and age have said anything similar to verse no. 6? Not let the enemy go, not forgive the enemy; BUT, if one should seek asylum grant it AND ESCORT HIM TO A PLACE OF SAFETY! SubhanAllah, these are Allah's great Words. Don't you see the mercy, peace and security emanating from these words?

There are various verses in the Holy Quran which show the peace loving nature of Islam. One well known one of them says that if one kills an innocent human it is like he has killed the entire human race. The innocent Human can be Muslim or Non-Muslim, it doesn't matter.

I request you and all other readers, at least for personal knowledge, read the entire Holy Quran with an open mind. Inshallah you will see the light and the right way.
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9/21/2013 1:30:50 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Patricia Crone:

Patricia Crone states that the famous Verse of the Sword is directed against a particular group accused of oath-breaking and aggression and excepts those polytheists who remained faithful. Crone states that this verse seems to be based on the same above-mentioned rules. Here also it is stressed that one must stop when they do

It is clear, therefore, that this verse is one of self-defense. The Muslims here are commanded to "slay the pagans" who are hostile towards them. It is not a carte blanche to "kill all infidels". This verse is specific to a specific time, and it is not understood by the overwhelming majority of Muslims to be a general call for murder against all those who are not Muslim.
"Hesham A. Hassaballa, Does Islam Call For The Murder of 'Infidels'?

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9/21/2013 3:36:52 AM
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As for

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- - - W O M E N - - - I N - - - I S L A M - - -
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Rights of Women in Islam can be divided in following vast categories.
1. Spiritual
2. Economical
3. Social
4. Educational
5. Legal
6. Political.

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Economical Rights:
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They have right to work,
Right to business,
Right to own property,
Right to inherit property,
Women have no Financial Obligations It is the duty of the man in the family to look after the financial aspects of the family.

In islam Dower is not a Female but Male.

Islam protects her modesty and chastity by not allowing them to work which involves exhibiting her beauty and body such as modelling, dancing, acting in films, etc

Unlike The Western society which speaks of upgrading the status of women, have actually reduced her status to concubines, to mistresses, to society butterflies, which are mere tools in the hands of sex marketers and pleasure seekers, which are disguised behind the colorful screen of art and culture.

_________________
Spirtual Rights:
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Surah Al-Nisa (Chapter 4) verse 124 (4:124)

"If any do deeds of righteousness be they male or female and have faith, they will enter heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them" (4:124)

"Whosoever performs good deeds whether male or female and is a believer, we shall surely make him live a good life and we will certainly reward them for the best of what they did." (16:79)

Allah's commands are same for Man & Woman:

"For Muslim men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah"s praise. For them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward."(33:35)

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Teaching to Treat her with Love:
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"He who created you from a single person and made his mate of like nature, in order that he might dwell with her (in love)" (7:189)

Where Bible & Christians put the blame on Eve(PBUH) that she commited the sin.
Quran says that both were equal in Mistake and thus both repented and were forgiven!
(Read [19:27] http://quran.com... )
There is not a single passage in the Qur"an that only points to Eve. However there is one verse in the Qur"an from Surah Taha chapter 20, verse 121 which specifically puts the blame on Adam (Pbuh).

IN ISLAM MOTHER HAS MANY OF THE HIGHTEST STATUS UNLIKE Other religons like christianty where Pregnency is considered a curse...

"And we have enjoined on a human (to be good) to his parents; in travail upon travail did their mother bear them, and in years twain was their weaning." (31:14)

"We have enjoined on humans kindness to their parents. In pain did their mother bear them and in pain did she give them birth." (46:15)

"A Hadith mentions that if a mother dies during delivery of her baby she is considered a martyr which in Islam is the highest degree of stature any person can achieve."

Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) said:Your Heaven lies under the feet of your mother (Ahmad, Nasai).

A man came to the Prophet and said, "O Messenger of God! Who among the people is the most worthy of my good companionship? The Prophet said: Your mother. The man said, "Then who?' The Prophet said: Then your mother. The man further asked, "Then who?' The Prophet said: Then your mother. The man asked again, "Then who?' The Prophet said: Then your father. (Bukhari, Muslim).

Socially Islam gives women four different status:

1. As a Daughter
2. As a Wife
3. As a Mother
4. As a Sister

1. Daughter

i. Islam prohibits infanticide or killing of female infants. This is considered a serious crime of murder.

(81 : 8-9)"When the female (infant), buried alive, is questioned, for what crime she was killed." (17:31), (6:15)

In pre-Islamic Arabia killing of female infants was very common and very often the moment a female was born she was buried alive.

Islam Condemned it Very Strongly!

In Islam the girl child is entitled to support, and upbringing and good treatment.

According to an authentic hadith related in Ahmed, Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) said, "Anyone who brings up two daughters properly they will be very close to me on the day of Judgment."

Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) always spoke about justice and kindness towards a child whether it be a daughter or a son.

2. Wife

. Islam does not consider "Woman as an instrument of the devil" as considered by the Bible. But rather the Qur"an calls her "Mohsana" - a fortress against Satan, because a good woman by marrying a man helps him keep a straight path in life.

A WIFE IS HALF A RELGION OF HER HUSBAND

It is narrated by Anas that the messenger of Allah (Pbuh) said, "when a man marries he has completed one half of his religion!"

A MERRIAGE IS NULL AND VOID IF IT IS AGAINST WOMAN"S WILL

"Oh! You who believe, you are forbidden to inherit women against their will!" (4: 19)

Ibn Abbas reported that a girl came to the messenger of God, Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) and she reported that her father had forced her to marry without her consent. The Messenger of God gave her the choice (between accepting the marriage or invalidating it _Ibn Hanbal No.2469).

In another version, the girl said : "Actually I accept this marriage but I wanted to let women know that parents have no right (to force a husband on them)" (Ibn-Maja, No.1873).

You will be rewarded for whatever you spend for Allah's sake even if it were a morsel which you put in your wife's mouth.
Al-Bukhari

(4:19) "Live with them (wives) on a footing of kindness and equity.

BEATING WIFE IS NOT PERMISSIBLE IN ISLAM IT HAS BEEN A WRONG TRANSLATION SPREAD WIDE... SEE MY DEBATE ABOUT WOMEN FOR DETAIL.

3. Mother

In addition to above ..

"Thy Lord hath decreed that ye worship none but Him, And that ye be kind to parents. When one or both of them attain old age in thy life, say not to them a word of contempt, nor repel them, but address them in terms of honour (17 :23).

"My Lord! bestow on them Thy Mercy even as they cherished me in childhood" (17 :24).

(46 :15) It is stated, "We have enjoined on human beings kindness to their parents."

(4:1). It is stated, "Respect the Womb that bore you."

4. Sister

(9:71)

"The believing men and believing women are protectors, one of other". Here the Arabic word used is "Auliya" which does not mean friend but supporters or helpers or protectors; this means that all believing men and women are protectors of one another like brothers and sisters unless otherwise stated.

The Prophet (Pbuh) said women are "shakaat" of men. Shakaat has two meanings, sisters or halves. Therefore women are sisters of men or women are halves of men, that is society is made of two halves, one half women and the other half men.

"I recommend you to be kind to your women"

Men and Women are overall equal.

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Educational Rights:
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According to Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) "It is obligatory for every Muslim, male or female, to acquire knowledge (Al-Bayhaqi).

A woman has her right to religious education from her husband so that either her husband should teach her or allow her to go elsewhere to acquire it. If this matter is taken before a judge, he must compel the husband to fulfil her demands in the same way that he would in worldly matters.

Aisha Bent Abu Baks(PBUH):

She is Islam's greatest Scholar - A woman! Greatest Scholar of Islam

and Islam's Top 3 Scholars are Females!

Saffiyah(PBUH) & . Umm Salamah (PBUH)
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9/21/2013 4:13:15 AM
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At 9/21/2013 12:25:36 AM, LoopsEye wrote:


What makes people so emotional here?
when they see the light from darkness..
when they see the truth in societies thousand lies..
when the inner soul cries out..
when the outer cover breaks off..
when the word frustrates them..
when they want peace and love..
when they come to seek the love..

such diginifed is the entrance in Islam.

Its Worlds Most Fastest Growing Religion (Christian Encyclopaedism & Encyclopedia Britannica)

by 2050 it will be the Largest Religion of World
http://www.debate.org...

Most Converts are Women.

Which Sword is Driving them?
Which Terror is Hitting them?

Islam is Terrorism! Islam is Intolerant! Islam is Savage!

are people becoming terrorist at fastest speed?

In west most spreading religion is not Christianity but Islam.

Ask your self?

Why are they rushing towards Islam?

Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson rightly says, "People who worry that nuclear weaponry will one day fall in the hands of the Arabs, fail to realize that the Islamic bomb has been dropped already, it fell the day MUHAMMAD was born".

Have you seen the top ten misconceptions about Islam??

By a NON MUSLIM Mouth??

http://listverse.com...

No. 7 is Religious Intolerance
6 Islamic Jihad
5 Child Bride
4 Muslim Savages
3 Women"s Rights
2 By the Sword
1 Islamic Terrorism


Islam means peace not terrorism!

Islam is not spread by Sword

Islam gave status to Women

Islamic Arms have 10 strict Laws to follow its not savage!

.Do not commit treachery
2.Do not deviate from the right path
3.Do not mutilate dead bodies
4.Do not kill children
5.Do not kill women
6.Do not kill aged men
7.Do not harm or burn trees
8.Do not destroy buildings
9.Do not destroy an enemy"s flock, unless you use it for your food
10.When you pass people who have devoted their lives to monastic services leave them alone


CAN WE COMPARE EZEKIEL WITH THIS??


A MESSAGE OF PEACE FOR ALL...

PLEASE SPREAD THE LOVE NOT HATRED

You sir are either very deluded of a troll, you choose.
Turn around, go back.
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9/21/2013 4:14:26 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 4:13:15 AM, Mysterious_Stranger wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:25:36 AM, LoopsEye wrote:


What makes people so emotional here?
when they see the light from darkness..
when they see the truth in societies thousand lies..
when the inner soul cries out..
when the outer cover breaks off..
when the word frustrates them..
when they want peace and love..
when they come to seek the love..

such diginifed is the entrance in Islam.

Its Worlds Most Fastest Growing Religion (Christian Encyclopaedism & Encyclopedia Britannica)

by 2050 it will be the Largest Religion of World
http://www.debate.org...

Most Converts are Women.

Which Sword is Driving them?
Which Terror is Hitting them?

Islam is Terrorism! Islam is Intolerant! Islam is Savage!

are people becoming terrorist at fastest speed?

In west most spreading religion is not Christianity but Islam.

Ask your self?

Why are they rushing towards Islam?

Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson rightly says, "People who worry that nuclear weaponry will one day fall in the hands of the Arabs, fail to realize that the Islamic bomb has been dropped already, it fell the day MUHAMMAD was born".

Have you seen the top ten misconceptions about Islam??

By a NON MUSLIM Mouth??

http://listverse.com...

No. 7 is Religious Intolerance
6 Islamic Jihad
5 Child Bride
4 Muslim Savages
3 Women"s Rights
2 By the Sword
1 Islamic Terrorism


Islam means peace not terrorism!

Islam is not spread by Sword

Islam gave status to Women

Islamic Arms have 10 strict Laws to follow its not savage!

.Do not commit treachery
2.Do not deviate from the right path
3.Do not mutilate dead bodies
4.Do not kill children
5.Do not kill women
6.Do not kill aged men
7.Do not harm or burn trees
8.Do not destroy buildings
9.Do not destroy an enemy"s flock, unless you use it for your food
10.When you pass people who have devoted their lives to monastic services leave them alone


CAN WE COMPARE EZEKIEL WITH THIS??


A MESSAGE OF PEACE FOR ALL...

PLEASE SPREAD THE LOVE NOT HATRED

You sir are either very deluded or a troll, you choose.
Turn around, go back.
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9/21/2013 4:19:02 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
CAN YOU CARE TO GIVE A SINGLE REASON ATLEAST FOR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

People when do not know they do think that the other is deluded...
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9/21/2013 4:29:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 12:39:37 AM, Dogknox wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:36:12 AM, Dogknox wrote:
LoopsEye The MUSLIM religion is a lie!! It is just this simple!
Jesus is God he is not just a prophet. God died on the cross so you would not. He took your sins upon himself out of love!

LoopsEye I add.... God became man! Born of the virgin Mary, Jesus became MAN! Clearly God cannot die if God is NOT first born!!

"Did god became sperm first, or did god just became baby in mother's womb?"
This is red.
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9/21/2013 5:18:42 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 4:19:02 AM, LoopsEye wrote:
CAN YOU CARE TO GIVE A SINGLE REASON ATLEAST FOR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?



People when do not know they do think that the other is deluded...

I rest my case...
Turn around, go back.
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9/21/2013 6:57:47 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 1:27:19 AM, LoopsEye wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:59:17 AM, muzebreak wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:25:36 AM, LoopsEye wrote:

Islam is not spread by Sword

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."

Quran, chapter 9, verse 5



I THANK YOU BROTHER FOR TAKING INTERST AND TALKING ABOUT IT...

Here is the answer:

Any piece of text, especially Historical Text should be read with great care, caution and within context. (The Holy Quran is not really Historical Text, it is the word of Almighty Allah, to be understood and followed till the end of the World, but that is my belief which you may not agree with, anyway... moving on...)

If you selectively quote passages of any text it may appear (to the not so well versed with the text) wrong, illegal, immoral, unjust. In case of the Holy Quran, the critics use this tactic to its full potential.

If you read the verse fully and the verse following the one you quote, you will realize that Islam is the most peaceful and forgiving religion.

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Chapter 9, verses 5 & 6:
5. But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

6. If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum(He may convert or not!), grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah. and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.


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Do you see the problems when people quote the verse out of context?

The Muslims and Pagans had signed a peace accord which the Pagans unilaterally broke. That is when Almighty Allah revealed these verse to his Messenger (Peace be upon Him). In these verses Almighty Allah gives an ultimatum to the Pagans to put right their affairs in 4 months or a declaration of War. And in the context of the War, Almighty Allah says this (Slay them, seize them, beleaguer them) to boost the morale of the Muslims. Any Army Commander, at the time of war will say this to pep up his troops.

Oh except for this bit ^^ which is just historical and has no meaning except for the occassion mentioned. And besides the god of the most peaceful religion is an Army Commander.
The more you justify the more you need to justify, just convert with the sword, that won't work either but at least we won't have to listen to the drivel.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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9/21/2013 11:30:48 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
There are many arguments to speak about but with the help of Allah i hope i will answer them all...!

I dont think people here would have more knowledge about Islam then those Historians who spent their lives in research of Islam and wrote loads of matter about it...

It is written by A.S Tritton in his book Islam, "The picture of the Muslim soldier advancing with a sword in one hand and the Koran in the other is quite false."

And

De Lacy O" Leary in his book "Islam at the crossroads" states, "History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated."

To judge Islam, one has to judge it by its doctrine and history not by what you heard!

ACCORDING TO A NARRATION OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD(PBUH) : ONE IS CURSED WHO HEARD SOMETHING FROM SOMEWHERE AND PASSED IT WITHOUT CONFIRMATION!

People Just come here like Dogknox, Mysterious_Stranger , come without any proof and just with thier mout they utter filth in which only they believe....!!

READ HISTORY WHY YOU FEAR TO FACE TRUTH BROTHER?? READ HISTORY READ HISTROY READ HISTORY!

JAMIE FRATER JULY 10, 2009 http://goo.gl...

"Kill the infidel" is the phrase many people believe is the ideology that Muslims have towards the non Muslims. This, though, is not a correct portrayal of Islamic law. Islam has always given respect and freedom of religion to all faiths. In the Quran it says "God does not forbid you, with regards to those who fight you not for religion nor drive you away out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them, for god loves those who are just." There are many historical examples of Muslim tolerance towards other faith. One such example was when the caliph Umar was ruler of Jerusalem from 634 to 644 AD. He granted freedom to all religious communities and said that the inhabitants of his city were safe and that their places of worship would never be taken away from them. He also set up courts that were designated to the non Muslim minorities. Whenever he would visit holy areas he would ask for the Christian patriarch Sophronius (pictured above) to accompany him.

Misconception: Muslims are savages and barbaric during warQuite the contrary, when it comes to the conduct of war there are ten rules that every Muslim army must obey:1.Do not commit treachery
2.Do not deviate from the right path
3.Do not mutilate dead bodies
4.Do not kill children
5.Do not kill women
6.Do not kill aged men
7.Do not harm or burn trees
8.Do not destroy buildings
9.Do not destroy an enemy"s flock, unless you use it for your food
10.When you pass people who have devoted their lives to monastic services leave them aloneDuring the crusades when Saladin defeated the franks he honored the defeated Frankish army and supplied them with food and during the third crusade when Saladin"s enemy king Richard fell sick, Saladin sent him a gift of fruits and horses.
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9/21/2013 11:33:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Oh except for this bit ^^ which is just historical and has no meaning except for the :occassion mentioned. And besides the god of the most peaceful religion is an Army :Commander.
The more you justify the more you need to justify, just convert with the sword, that won't :work either but at least we won't have to listen to the drivel.

@bulproof

ARMY COMMANDER IS A VERY LIMITED TERM BROTHER HE IS THE COMMANDER OF THE UNIVERSE ... NOT EVEN A LEAF MOVES AGAINST HIS WILL...
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9/21/2013 11:58:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 11:33:57 AM, LoopsEye wrote:
Oh except for this bit ^^ which is just historical and has no meaning except for the :occassion mentioned. And besides the god of the most peaceful religion is an Army :Commander.
The more you justify the more you need to justify, just convert with the sword, that won't :work either but at least we won't have to listen to the drivel.


@bulproof

ARMY COMMANDER IS A VERY LIMITED TERM BROTHER HE IS THE COMMANDER OF THE UNIVERSE ... NOT EVEN A LEAF MOVES AGAINST HIS WILL...
Respond to the post, don't attempt such a pathetic avoidance. Really muslims have less arguments than christians.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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9/21/2013 12:20:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 4:29:57 AM, tahir.imanov wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:39:37 AM, Dogknox wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:36:12 AM, Dogknox wrote:
LoopsEye The MUSLIM religion is a lie!! It is just this simple!
Jesus is God he is not just a prophet. God died on the cross so you would not. He took your sins upon himself out of love!

LoopsEye I add.... God became man! Born of the virgin Mary, Jesus became MAN! Clearly God cannot die if God is NOT first born!!

"Did god became sperm first, or did god just became baby in mother's womb?"

tahir.imanov good to meet you...
The scriptures say...
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

DO YOU SEE IT?? "The words is God"!

Next.. same chapter..

John 1:14
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

DO YOU SEE IT? The Word.. God became flesh... God became MAN!!
So your question.. "Did god became sperm first, or did god just became baby in mother's womb?"

God became a baby in Mary's womb I say because.. Mary's Spouse is the "Holy Spirit"!
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9/21/2013 1:28:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
all of this just more praise for a god. Abrahamic religions have no consideration of balance. good and evil must be balanced. MUST. if all evil is eradicated, even if all chaos is eradicated, the world would come to a stand still. good and evil, chaos and order, they depend on each other. with peace there must always be war, love there will always be hate, and kindness there will always be cruelty. you cannot upset the balance or else there will be grave consequences.
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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9/21/2013 2:13:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 12:48:12 AM, LoopsEye wrote:

The Christian WORSHIPS Jesus!


but Jesus never asked to be worshiped... not a single unequivocal and unambiguous statement of bible says that Jesus claimed to be worshiped.

Your words.. not a single unequivocal and unambiguous statement of bible says that Jesus claimed to be worshiped.

I reply: They WORSHIP JESUS!!!
Matthew 4:10
Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: "Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.""

LoopsEye do you agree with the words of Jesus to Satan!? Words in the bible!!!
The BIBLE: "WORSHIP IS ONLY FOR GOD"!

LOOK..
Matthew 2:11
On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.

They worship Jesus!!!! (above) "WORSHIP IS ONLY FOR GOD"!

LOOK..
Matthew 14:33
Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, "Truly you are the Son of God."

They worship Jesus!!!! (above verse) "WORSHIP IS ONLY FOR GOD"!

LOOK..
Matthew 28:9
Suddenly Jesus met them. "Greetings," he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him.

They worship Jesus!!!! (above verse) "WORSHIP IS ONLY FOR GOD"!
LoopsEye "WORSHIP IS ONLY FOR GOD"!

LOOK.. "WORSHIP IS ONLY FOR GOD"!
Matthew 28:17
When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted.

>>>>> NEVER EVER does Jesus stop the worship of himself!!! <<<<<

LoopsEye >>>>>> Jesus tells you; WORSHIP IS FOR ONLY GOD... Jesus does NOT stop the people worshiping him!!

LOOK..
27 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."
28 Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"


Jesus IS GOD!!!
Jesus wrote the bible.. He tells you WORSHIP is ONLY for God, The bible tells you they WORSHIP JESUS!

Your are wrong.. Your words.. not a single unequivocal and unambiguous statement of bible says that Jesus claimed to be worshiped.
Muhammad is a LIE!!!!

Islam is a LIE!!!
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9/22/2013 12:17:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 12:25:36 AM, LoopsEye wrote:


What makes people so emotional here?
when they see the light from darkness..
when they see the truth in societies thousand lies..
when the inner soul cries out..
when the outer cover breaks off..
when the word frustrates them..
when they want peace and love..
when they come to seek the love..

such diginifed is the entrance in Islam.

Its Worlds Most Fastest Growing Religion (Christian Encyclopaedism & Encyclopedia Britannica)

by 2050 it will be the Largest Religion of World
http://www.debate.org...

Most Converts are Women.

Which Sword is Driving them?
Which Terror is Hitting them?

Islam is Terrorism! Islam is Intolerant! Islam is Savage!

are people becoming terrorist at fastest speed?

In west most spreading religion is not Christianity but Islam.

Ask your self?

Why are they rushing towards Islam?


Bandwagon fallacy.