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JayLewis
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10/4/2013 12:55:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting [lacking]; it has been found difficult and not tried" - G.K. Chesterton
drafterman
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10/4/2013 1:04:00 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/4/2013 12:55:33 PM, JayLewis wrote:
"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting [lacking]; it has been found difficult and not tried" - G.K. Chesterton

Dismissive, insulting, and false.
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10/4/2013 2:00:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/4/2013 1:04:00 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 10/4/2013 12:55:33 PM, JayLewis wrote:
"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting [lacking]; it has been found difficult and not tried" - G.K. Chesterton

Dismissive, insulting, and false.

Care to elaborate?
TheAntidoter
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10/4/2013 2:05:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/4/2013 2:00:10 PM, JayLewis wrote:
At 10/4/2013 1:04:00 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 10/4/2013 12:55:33 PM, JayLewis wrote:
"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting [lacking]; it has been found difficult and not tried" - G.K. Chesterton

Dismissive, insulting, and false.

Care to elaborate?

You asked for his thoughts, you got them.
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drafterman
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10/4/2013 2:13:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/4/2013 2:00:10 PM, JayLewis wrote:
At 10/4/2013 1:04:00 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 10/4/2013 12:55:33 PM, JayLewis wrote:
"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting [lacking]; it has been found difficult and not tried" - G.K. Chesterton

Dismissive, insulting, and false.

Care to elaborate?

Dismissive - in a single sentence it dismisses the serious inquiries many individuals have made into Christianity, sometimes over the course of their entire lives, involving deep introspection often with real-world consequences (strained relationships, moral dilemmas, overhaul of fundamental belief systems). It takes for granted that, for most people, the religion they are is the religion they were indoctrinated into and, therefore, didn't require in depth thought. The people who "try" Christianity in the sense of critically analyzing it have put more effort into it than most.

Insulting - Basically it says that if you're not a Christian you're lazy. Let's call the number of people unaware of Christianity negligible and note that about two-thirds of the world's population isn't Christian. According to this d-bag, they're all just lazy.

It's also a tried (and unfortunately true) tactic of MLM/Pyramid schemes and scams. Despite the fact that they are mathematically impossible to be profitable for most people, failure to earn a profit is always spun as a failure on the salesperson; they simply aren't trying hard enough. To say, universally, that not being Christian is a failure on the person is to simply assume that there is nothing about Christianity that any reasonable person could find fault with, which places non-Christians in the place of being inherently unreasonable, before we even begin the discussion of what they found faulting!

False - What more is there to say? People have tried Christianity and found it wanting. I'm one.
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10/4/2013 2:38:40 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/4/2013 2:13:16 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 10/4/2013 2:00:10 PM, JayLewis wrote:
At 10/4/2013 1:04:00 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 10/4/2013 12:55:33 PM, JayLewis wrote:
"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting [lacking]; it has been found difficult and not tried" - G.K. Chesterton

Dismissive, insulting, and false.

Care to elaborate?

Dismissive - in a single sentence it dismisses the serious inquiries many individuals have made into Christianity, sometimes over the course of their entire lives, involving deep introspection often with real-world consequences (strained relationships, moral dilemmas, overhaul of fundamental belief systems). It takes for granted that, for most people, the religion they are is the religion they were indoctrinated into and, therefore, didn't require in depth thought. The people who "try" Christianity in the sense of critically analyzing it have put more effort into it than most.

Insulting - Basically it says that if you're not a Christian you're lazy. Let's call the number of people unaware of Christianity negligible and note that about two-thirds of the world's population isn't Christian. According to this d-bag, they're all just lazy.

It's also a tried (and unfortunately true) tactic of MLM/Pyramid schemes and scams. Despite the fact that they are mathematically impossible to be profitable for most people, failure to earn a profit is always spun as a failure on the salesperson; they simply aren't trying hard enough. To say, universally, that not being Christian is a failure on the person is to simply assume that there is nothing about Christianity that any reasonable person could find fault with, which places non-Christians in the place of being inherently unreasonable, before we even begin the discussion of what they found faulting!

False - What more is there to say? People have tried Christianity and found it wanting. I'm one.

This d-bag that you refer to is none other than G.K. Chesterton. A famous author, poet, social critic, church critic, and theologian. In his youth he delved into atheism, occultism, and unitarianism and found all these ideologies lacking in answering the metaphysical questions he had. He truly tried christianity and did not find it lacking.
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10/4/2013 2:45:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/4/2013 2:38:40 PM, JayLewis wrote:
At 10/4/2013 2:13:16 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 10/4/2013 2:00:10 PM, JayLewis wrote:
At 10/4/2013 1:04:00 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 10/4/2013 12:55:33 PM, JayLewis wrote:
"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting [lacking]; it has been found difficult and not tried" - G.K. Chesterton

Dismissive, insulting, and false.

Care to elaborate?

Dismissive - in a single sentence it dismisses the serious inquiries many individuals have made into Christianity, sometimes over the course of their entire lives, involving deep introspection often with real-world consequences (strained relationships, moral dilemmas, overhaul of fundamental belief systems). It takes for granted that, for most people, the religion they are is the religion they were indoctrinated into and, therefore, didn't require in depth thought. The people who "try" Christianity in the sense of critically analyzing it have put more effort into it than most.

Insulting - Basically it says that if you're not a Christian you're lazy. Let's call the number of people unaware of Christianity negligible and note that about two-thirds of the world's population isn't Christian. According to this d-bag, they're all just lazy.

It's also a tried (and unfortunately true) tactic of MLM/Pyramid schemes and scams. Despite the fact that they are mathematically impossible to be profitable for most people, failure to earn a profit is always spun as a failure on the salesperson; they simply aren't trying hard enough. To say, universally, that not being Christian is a failure on the person is to simply assume that there is nothing about Christianity that any reasonable person could find fault with, which places non-Christians in the place of being inherently unreasonable, before we even begin the discussion of what they found faulting!

False - What more is there to say? People have tried Christianity and found it wanting. I'm one.

This d-bag that you refer to is none other than G.K. Chesterton. A famous author, poet, social critic, church critic, and theologian. In his youth he delved into atheism, occultism, and unitarianism and found all these ideologies lacking in answering the metaphysical questions he had. He truly tried christianity and did not find it lacking.

Like GK, Walt Disney was an anti-semite, too, despite the family-friendly image.

"Oh, even though you've pointed out why this is a douchey thing to say, it's not douchey 'cause he's so awesome!" is not really an argument against the douchiness of the statement.

I have found it lacking. Others have as well. And that lack had nothing to do with its "difficulty", and everything to do with its lack of substance.
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10/4/2013 3:30:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/4/2013 2:38:40 PM, JayLewis wrote:
At 10/4/2013 2:13:16 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 10/4/2013 2:00:10 PM, JayLewis wrote:
At 10/4/2013 1:04:00 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 10/4/2013 12:55:33 PM, JayLewis wrote:
"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting [lacking]; it has been found difficult and not tried" - G.K. Chesterton

Dismissive, insulting, and false.

Care to elaborate?

Dismissive - in a single sentence it dismisses the serious inquiries many individuals have made into Christianity, sometimes over the course of their entire lives, involving deep introspection often with real-world consequences (strained relationships, moral dilemmas, overhaul of fundamental belief systems). It takes for granted that, for most people, the religion they are is the religion they were indoctrinated into and, therefore, didn't require in depth thought. The people who "try" Christianity in the sense of critically analyzing it have put more effort into it than most.

Insulting - Basically it says that if you're not a Christian you're lazy. Let's call the number of people unaware of Christianity negligible and note that about two-thirds of the world's population isn't Christian. According to this d-bag, they're all just lazy.

It's also a tried (and unfortunately true) tactic of MLM/Pyramid schemes and scams. Despite the fact that they are mathematically impossible to be profitable for most people, failure to earn a profit is always spun as a failure on the salesperson; they simply aren't trying hard enough. To say, universally, that not being Christian is a failure on the person is to simply assume that there is nothing about Christianity that any reasonable person could find fault with, which places non-Christians in the place of being inherently unreasonable, before we even begin the discussion of what they found faulting!

False - What more is there to say? People have tried Christianity and found it wanting. I'm one.

This d-bag that you refer to is none other than G.K. Chesterton. A famous author, poet, social critic, church critic, and theologian.

Which doesn't mean he isn't a dbag.

in his youth he delved into atheism, occultism, and unitarianism and found all these ideologies lacking in answering the metaphysical questions he had. He truly tried christianity and did not find it lacking.

Wrong, he found atheism difficult and didn't try.
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10/4/2013 4:34:00 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/4/2013 12:55:33 PM, JayLewis wrote:
"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting [lacking]; it has been found difficult and not tried" - G.K. Chesterton

Here's a few quotes by our Creator;

A brown squirrel gathers nuts in the fall because he knows what's coming. A brown squirrel is much wiser than a Christian.

The Christian qualifications for Bible study is to believe anything you want as long as you don't disagree with them.

If all the Christians had the Holy Spirit in them knowing God can't lie, either God is a liar or the Holy Spirit can't tell the truth.

There's a reason the churches of Christianity are preaching a false gospel. The profits are much better.

Don't Christians wonder why they keep sinning after all those years of Jesus forgiving them?

Christianity is the only place you can have eternal life without ever giving up your sinful life and hearts of sin.

The Catholic faith is directly opposite of faith in God. The Vatican boys made sure of that.

To know the truth in Christianity is the beginning of a new denomination and leaving the lies of the last one.

The only part of Jesus Christ that Christians don't understand is the truth.

A sinner who can forgive his own sins to save his own life is the kind that make up Christianity.

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil is what Christians try to do but instead, they see no truth, hear no truth and speak no truth.