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dattaswami
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10/7/2013 5:40:21 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Many feel that they have lifted the Govardhana hill by earning money and by bringing up their children. They feel that their lives are fulfilled when the circle of their friends and relatives appreciate them as a very disciplined person since he brought up his children. He wants appreciation from friends and relatives by words like "How well educated and rich he is! Yet, see his humility and simplicity!" The poor fellow becomes unconscious by this hypnotic drug and helps them; their real aim is only getting some help from him. When the help is over, their suppressed jealousy comes out and they will abuse him. Thus, his life is neither fulfilled in this world nor in the upper world.

Attractions are spontaneous, which can neither be created nor suppressed by force. A forced attraction by fear is not real and what is the use of such faith and love? In the spiritual path too, the attraction to God should be spontaneous and natural without fear or force. Urge to fulfill the desires is the force. The fear is of hell. The Gopikas were prepared to go to hell in the love of the Lord and no force on earth could deviate them from it. The attraction should be spontaneously generated in a free atmosphere without any attraction to boons and without any fear of hell.

Attraction should be spontaneous and natural. You can get real bliss only in such love. You are already attracted to the greatest Lord. Why do you wish that you should attract some other soul by your personality? If there is any merit in your personality, it is due to God and not you. Pass on the credit to God. Advise even the soul attracted to you to get attracted by the greatest Lord. That will protect you both here and as well as in the upper world. The Gita says that if any greatness is seen in any person, it is coming from the Lord alone (Mama Tejomsa Sambhavam).

The mentality to attract other souls is egoism. The mentality to be attracted to God is divinity. When you never aspire to attract any soul, you will attract all the souls by the grace of God. When you like fame, you will be defamed as in the case of demons. If you ask, it shall not be given. If you knock, the doors will be closed. This is Nivritti. The reverse of this is true in Pravritti for initial encouragement. For the initial attraction towards God, some boons are granted, but it is only temporary.
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10/9/2013 4:08:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/7/2013 5:40:21 AM, dattaswami wrote:
Many feel that they have lifted the Govardhana hill by earning money and by bringing up their children. They feel that their lives are fulfilled when the circle of their friends and relatives appreciate them as a very disciplined person since he brought up his children. He wants appreciation from friends and relatives by words like "How well educated and rich he is! Yet, see his humility and simplicity!" The poor fellow becomes unconscious by this hypnotic drug and helps them; their real aim is only getting some help from him. When the help is over, their suppressed jealousy comes out and they will abuse him. Thus, his life is neither fulfilled in this world nor in the upper world.

Attractions are spontaneous, which can neither be created nor suppressed by force. A forced attraction by fear is not real and what is the use of such faith and love? In the spiritual path too, the attraction to God should be spontaneous and natural without fear or force. Urge to fulfill the desires is the force. The fear is of hell. The Gopikas were prepared to go to hell in the love of the Lord and no force on earth could deviate them from it. The attraction should be spontaneously generated in a free atmosphere without any attraction to boons and without any fear of hell.

Attraction should be spontaneous and natural. You can get real bliss only in such love. You are already attracted to the greatest Lord. Why do you wish that you should attract some other soul by your personality? If there is any merit in your personality, it is due to God and not you. Pass on the credit to God. Advise even the soul attracted to you to get attracted by the greatest Lord. That will protect you both here and as well as in the upper world. The Gita says that if any greatness is seen in any person, it is coming from the Lord alone (Mama Tejomsa Sambhavam).

The mentality to attract other souls is egoism. The mentality to be attracted to God is divinity. When you never aspire to attract any soul, you will attract all the souls by the grace of God. When you like fame, you will be defamed as in the case of demons. If you ask, it shall not be given. If you knock, the doors will be closed. This is Nivritti. The reverse of this is true in Pravritti for initial encouragement. For the initial attraction towards God, some boons are granted, but it is only temporary.

The attraction that true believers have can be the bodily testimonies of us saints or the spoken word or even our personal writings that God has us write to learn about our true created invisible existence called the Word of God. The attraction that unbelievers have towards us saints is a selfish one to try convince us saints of their false gods as being the Truth, which we saints know are nothing but religious lies that Rome produced in their new testament.
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10/10/2013 12:37:43 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Necessity of incarnation ...

When you read scriptures, which are discourses of past human incarnations, you will get so many doubts demanding clarification. If original Lord is not available, we have to depend on other fellow human beings for clarifications. Suppose you study a correspondence course. When you get a doubt, you have to depend on your classmate, who is studying the course similarly. He is not competent to clarify your doubts & you will be poisoned by his wrong interpretations.

Suppose you study same course in a college & lecturer explains in the class. Whenever you get a doubt, you can ask him then & there & you will surely get correct interpretation at correct moment. The clarification is important at correct moment because without clarification latter part of the lecture may not be understood or may be misunderstood. Such a facility does not exist with past human incarnations & past scriptures.

The present generation is very much blessed because of the facility of computer technology. You can clarify your doubts through this computer system without any strain of traveling to the human incarnation in person. All divine preachers in this world are in contact with God and are doing the divine preaching to various levels of devotees. Their preachings may be mixed with some ignorance and it is not their fault because such mixing with ignorance in various proportions is required for various lower levels of human beings.

The complete and pure knowledge without any trace of ignorance can be grasped only by a very few highest devotees. The number of advanced research students studying under a professor is always very small. So the direct human incarnation is recognized by a very few top level devotees only.

At 10/9/2013 4:08:46 PM, bornofgod wrote:
The attraction that true believers have can be the bodily testimonies of us saints or the spoken word or even our personal writings that God has us write to learn about our true created invisible existence called the Word of God. The attraction that unbelievers have towards us saints is a selfish one to try convince us saints of their false gods as being the Truth, which we saints know are nothing but religious lies that Rome produced in their new testament.
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10/10/2013 12:51:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/10/2013 12:37:43 AM, dattaswami wrote:
Necessity of incarnation ...

When you read scriptures, which are discourses of past human incarnations, you will get so many doubts demanding clarification. If original Lord is not available, we have to depend on other fellow human beings for clarifications. Suppose you study a correspondence course. When you get a doubt, you have to depend on your classmate, who is studying the course similarly. He is not competent to clarify your doubts & you will be poisoned by his wrong interpretations.

Suppose you study same course in a college & lecturer explains in the class. Whenever you get a doubt, you can ask him then & there & you will surely get correct interpretation at correct moment. The clarification is important at correct moment because without clarification latter part of the lecture may not be understood or may be misunderstood. Such a facility does not exist with past human incarnations & past scriptures.

The present generation is very much blessed because of the facility of computer technology. You can clarify your doubts through this computer system without any strain of traveling to the human incarnation in person. All divine preachers in this world are in contact with God and are doing the divine preaching to various levels of devotees. Their preachings may be mixed with some ignorance and it is not their fault because such mixing with ignorance in various proportions is required for various lower levels of human beings.

The complete and pure knowledge without any trace of ignorance can be grasped only by a very few highest devotees. The number of advanced research students studying under a professor is always very small. So the direct human incarnation is recognized by a very few top level devotees only.

God chose His prophets, saints and believers for His purpose to reveal His hidden knowledge and let us know what's going on. These few chosen ones were all He needed to work with during this first age and soon it will end according to His eternal plan for His invisible creation. All the worldly knowledge will be burned up with His energy called fire. Then His New Heaven and Earth will be used for the next generation of flesh to experience eternal life.
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10/29/2013 1:47:03 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
MATTHEW: 5:17
"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill".

The right interpretations of the old traditional scriptures given by Holy Jesus appear to be quite revolutionary. But they are the real essence of the scriptures. Selfish Scholars misinterpreted these old scriptures and established a bad tradition and mislead the public. Certain inconvenient portions of scriptures were removed and certain selfish portions were introduced. The Scriptures were polluted and this happened in Hinduism also. Holy Jesus washed all the dirt in the Christian scriptures.

Similarly in Hinduism the three preachers called Shankara, Ramanuja and Madhva also washed such dirt but the dirt comes often because the wind blows every day carrying the dust.

The religion becomes dirty in every human generation. Spiritualism is the brooms stick with which God in human form sweeps it away. For this purpose He comes down in human form in every human generation. All the old is not gold as said "Purana mityeva"" It is also said "Taatasya Kupoyam"", which means that a fool drinks salt water from a well saying that it was dug by his forefathers. So, one should not follow all the old blindly. Analyze it at every step and find out the truth.

Whenever God leaves the world these rigid people twist and pollute the meanings of scriptures. To rectify He comes again and again. When the teacher leaves for a few minutes the class becomes undisciplined. The teacher comes to the class again and again. For teaching, the human form is essential.

A statue cannot teach you. If you think Him formless, He is not speaking to you from the sky or space or air. The human body is most convenient medium for the human beings to hear preaching of the God. The main goal of God is to preach the human beings and correct them to put in the right spiritual path.

At 10/10/2013 12:51:42 PM, bornofgod wrote:
God chose His prophets, saints and believers for His purpose to reveal His hidden knowledge and let us know what's going on. These few chosen ones were all He needed to work with during this first age and soon it will end according to His eternal plan for His invisible creation. All the worldly knowledge will be burned up with His energy called fire. Then His New Heaven and Earth will be used for the next generation of flesh to experience eternal life.
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10/29/2013 10:32:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/29/2013 1:47:03 PM, dattaswami wrote:
MATTHEW: 5:17
"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill".

The right interpretations of the old traditional scriptures given by Holy Jesus appear to be quite revolutionary. But they are the real essence of the scriptures. Selfish Scholars misinterpreted these old scriptures and established a bad tradition and mislead the public. Certain inconvenient portions of scriptures were removed and certain selfish portions were introduced. The Scriptures were polluted and this happened in Hinduism also. Holy Jesus washed all the dirt in the Christian scriptures.

Similarly in Hinduism the three preachers called Shankara, Ramanuja and Madhva also washed such dirt but the dirt comes often because the wind blows every day carrying the dust.

The religion becomes dirty in every human generation. Spiritualism is the brooms stick with which God in human form sweeps it away. For this purpose He comes down in human form in every human generation. All the old is not gold as said "Purana mityeva"" It is also said "Taatasya Kupoyam"", which means that a fool drinks salt water from a well saying that it was dug by his forefathers. So, one should not follow all the old blindly. Analyze it at every step and find out the truth.

Whenever God leaves the world these rigid people twist and pollute the meanings of scriptures. To rectify He comes again and again. When the teacher leaves for a few minutes the class becomes undisciplined. The teacher comes to the class again and again. For teaching, the human form is essential.

A statue cannot teach you. If you think Him formless, He is not speaking to you from the sky or space or air. The human body is most convenient medium for the human beings to hear preaching of the God. The main goal of God is to preach the human beings and correct them to put in the right spiritual path.

At 10/10/2013 12:51:42 PM, bornofgod wrote:
God chose His prophets, saints and believers for His purpose to reveal His hidden knowledge and let us know what's going on. These few chosen ones were all He needed to work with during this first age and soon it will end according to His eternal plan for His invisible creation. All the worldly knowledge will be burned up with His energy called fire. Then His New Heaven and Earth will be used for the next generation of flesh to experience eternal life.

Are you able to hear our Creator in my testimonies? If you can, then keep listening to His voice in my written testimonies or check out "Brad Holkesvig" on Youtube and listen to my spoken testimonies.
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10/30/2013 2:40:19 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Identity mark to recognize human incarnation of God

Real characteristic properties of the Lord as declared by Veda are the Special Knowledge (Prajnana), the Love (Rasa or Prema) & Bliss (Ananda). Veda also says that these three characteristics must be experienced by others if the possessor is having really those characteristics. The characteristic property of the fire is heat. Any person who is near fire should experience heat & then only we can say that fire is hot.

Similarly Lord in human form must make others to experience the Jnana, Prema and Ananda. Veda says "Esha Hyeva Anandayati", which means that He creates Bliss in the hearts of others. Lord should not be recognized merely by miracles because even demons performed these miracles. Miracles are only associated property like jewels.

At 10/29/2013 10:32:42 PM, bornofgod wrote:

Are you able to hear our Creator in my testimonies? If you can, then keep listening to His voice in my written testimonies or check out "Brad Holkesvig" on Youtube and listen to my spoken testimonies.