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10/28/2013 3:42:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Unfortunately, even the thought of improving our yearly calender to being regular is scrapped before it can even start.

Why? Religious people need every seven days to to have exactly the same name, forever.

Nice one, religion. :)
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10/28/2013 3:47:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
One of the only options.

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10/28/2013 4:18:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
i don't like either of them
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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10/28/2013 4:26:53 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 4:18:07 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
i don't like either of them

Neither do I.

Tbh there probably isn't ever that good of a solution, but many are better than the one we have now.
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10/28/2013 4:28:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 4:26:53 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:18:07 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
i don't like either of them

Neither do I.

Tbh there probably isn't ever that good of a solution, but many are better than the one we have now.

meh i don't see the problem with dates landing on different days.
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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10/28/2013 4:31:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 4:28:29 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:26:53 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:18:07 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
i don't like either of them

Neither do I.

Tbh there probably isn't ever that good of a solution, but many are better than the one we have now.

meh i don't see the problem with dates landing on different days.

I see benefits with regular calenders.
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cybertron1998
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10/28/2013 4:34:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 4:31:35 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:28:29 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:26:53 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:18:07 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
i don't like either of them

Neither do I.

Tbh there probably isn't ever that good of a solution, but many are better than the one we have now.

meh i don't see the problem with dates landing on different days.

I see benefits with regular calenders.

i honestly don't think it will catch on the year we use now has been around for a long time. sure some longstanding traditions have been uprooted but not many. look at imperialism, no matter how much we deny it, it still exists.

wait how did i tangent the conversation like that?
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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10/28/2013 4:36:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 4:34:56 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:31:35 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:28:29 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:26:53 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:18:07 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
i don't like either of them

Neither do I.

Tbh there probably isn't ever that good of a solution, but many are better than the one we have now.

meh i don't see the problem with dates landing on different days.

I see benefits with regular calenders.

i honestly don't think it will catch on the year we use now has been around for a long time. sure some longstanding traditions have been uprooted but not many. look at imperialism, no matter how much we deny it, it still exists.

wait how did i tangent the conversation like that?

You mean in the U.S, the land of "tradition" (fear of change?) ?
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10/28/2013 4:37:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 4:36:28 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:34:56 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:31:35 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:28:29 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:26:53 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:18:07 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
i don't like either of them

Neither do I.

Tbh there probably isn't ever that good of a solution, but many are better than the one we have now.

meh i don't see the problem with dates landing on different days.

I see benefits with regular calenders.

i honestly don't think it will catch on the year we use now has been around for a long time. sure some longstanding traditions have been uprooted but not many. look at imperialism, no matter how much we deny it, it still exists.

wait how did i tangent the conversation like that?

You mean in the U.S, the land of "tradition" (fear of change?) ?

what?
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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10/28/2013 4:39:19 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 4:37:01 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:36:28 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:34:56 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:31:35 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:28:29 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:26:53 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:18:07 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
i don't like either of them

Neither do I.

Tbh there probably isn't ever that good of a solution, but many are better than the one we have now.

meh i don't see the problem with dates landing on different days.

I see benefits with regular calenders.

i honestly don't think it will catch on the year we use now has been around for a long time. sure some longstanding traditions have been uprooted but not many. look at imperialism, no matter how much we deny it, it still exists.

wait how did i tangent the conversation like that?

You mean in the U.S, the land of "tradition" (fear of change?) ?

what?

Then again, Britain isn't much better.
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cybertron1998
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10/28/2013 4:41:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 4:39:19 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:37:01 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:36:28 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:34:56 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:31:35 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:28:29 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:26:53 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:18:07 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
i don't like either of them

Neither do I.

Tbh there probably isn't ever that good of a solution, but many are better than the one we have now.

meh i don't see the problem with dates landing on different days.

I see benefits with regular calenders.

i honestly don't think it will catch on the year we use now has been around for a long time. sure some longstanding traditions have been uprooted but not many. look at imperialism, no matter how much we deny it, it still exists.

wait how did i tangent the conversation like that?

You mean in the U.S, the land of "tradition" (fear of change?) ?

what?

Then again, Britain isn't much better.

a lot of western society has imperialistic views
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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10/28/2013 4:50:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 4:41:22 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:39:19 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:37:01 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:36:28 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:34:56 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:31:35 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:28:29 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:26:53 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:18:07 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
i don't like either of them

Neither do I.

Tbh there probably isn't ever that good of a solution, but many are better than the one we have now.

meh i don't see the problem with dates landing on different days.

I see benefits with regular calenders.

i honestly don't think it will catch on the year we use now has been around for a long time. sure some longstanding traditions have been uprooted but not many. look at imperialism, no matter how much we deny it, it still exists.

wait how did i tangent the conversation like that?

You mean in the U.S, the land of "tradition" (fear of change?) ?

what?

Then again, Britain isn't much better.

a lot of western society has imperialistic views

Lol, Britain and the US seem the most enthusiastic to stick to their old ways.
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10/28/2013 5:11:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Both of those alternatives add more leap days, with the former having leap years at a variable number of years (either five, or six, and I can't tell if there is a pattern), which is just confusing to keep track of.
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10/28/2013 5:11:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 4:50:21 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:41:22 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:39:19 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:37:01 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:36:28 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:34:56 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:31:35 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:28:29 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:26:53 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 4:18:07 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
i don't like either of them

Neither do I.

Tbh there probably isn't ever that good of a solution, but many are better than the one we have now.

meh i don't see the problem with dates landing on different days.

I see benefits with regular calenders.

i honestly don't think it will catch on the year we use now has been around for a long time. sure some longstanding traditions have been uprooted but not many. look at imperialism, no matter how much we deny it, it still exists.

wait how did i tangent the conversation like that?

You mean in the U.S, the land of "tradition" (fear of change?) ?

what?

Then again, Britain isn't much better.

a lot of western society has imperialistic views

Lol, Britain and the US seem the most enthusiastic to stick to their old ways.

and yet they are in so much denial of it
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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10/28/2013 5:35:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 3:42:24 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
Unfortunately, even the thought of improving our yearly calender to being regular is scrapped before it can even start.

Why? Religious people need every seven days to to have exactly the same name, forever.

Nice one, religion. :)

I have to admit that I had not heard anything about that, however I don't see a reasonable alternative to the 7 day week no matter what you do about it, or whatever you call the days.

Religious or not people like their weekends to come round after 5 or 6 days work.

Of course we are really ruled by the earth's journey time around the sun, as well as the moon's journey around the earth.

Unfortunately the one is not an exact multiple of the other which doesn't help. A solar year doesn't even last for an exact number of days. and whilst a lunar month is an exact number of days there are 13 weeks and just short of 1 day in each solar year (Approximately 23 hours 59 minutes plus some seconds short in fact).

Of course our day isn't exactly 24 hours either, again 23 hours 59 minutes and some second.

No matter how man works it we will never get a nicely balanced year, lol.
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10/28/2013 5:49:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 3:47:29 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
One of the only options.

http://en.wikipedia.org...

The first is nice, I'll take a look at the second, but how necessary is it to have another callendar?
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10/28/2013 6:38:00 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 5:35:36 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 10/28/2013 3:42:24 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
Unfortunately, even the thought of improving our yearly calender to being regular is scrapped before it can even start.

Why? Religious people need every seven days to to have exactly the same name, forever.

Nice one, religion. :)

I have to admit that I had not heard anything about that, however I don't see a reasonable alternative to the 7 day week no matter what you do about it, or whatever you call the days.

Religious or not people like their weekends to come round after 5 or 6 days work.

Of course we are really ruled by the earth's journey time around the sun, as well as the moon's journey around the earth.

Unfortunately the one is not an exact multiple of the other which doesn't help. A solar year doesn't even last for an exact number of days. and whilst a lunar month is an exact number of days there are 13 weeks and just short of 1 day in each solar year (Approximately 23 hours 59 minutes plus some seconds short in fact).

Of course our day isn't exactly 24 hours either, again 23 hours 59 minutes and some second.

No matter how man works it we will never get a nicely balanced year, lol.

There will still be a seven day week, but for regular calenders, leap days need to be included. The only way we can have regular calenders and leap days and please any religious position it to have a leap week every five to six years or so. It doesn't seem like the best option.
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10/28/2013 6:38:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 5:11:38 PM, themohawkninja wrote:
Both of those alternatives add more leap days, with the former having leap years at a variable number of years (either five, or six, and I can't tell if there is a pattern), which is just confusing to keep track of.

Not as confusing as how many days in a month/how to do business quarters/what days land when etc.
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10/28/2013 6:40:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 5:49:39 PM, Fruitytree wrote:
At 10/28/2013 3:47:29 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
One of the only options.

http://en.wikipedia.org...

The first is nice, I'll take a look at the second, but how necessary is it to have another callendar?

How necessary is any improvement to live? Is farming and a sewage system "necessary"?
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10/28/2013 6:43:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 6:38:59 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 5:11:38 PM, themohawkninja wrote:
Both of those alternatives add more leap days, with the former having leap years at a variable number of years (either five, or six, and I can't tell if there is a pattern), which is just confusing to keep track of.

Not as confusing as how many days in a month/how to do business quarters/what days land when etc.

There is the old peaks and troughs of your hand to figure out days in a month, and I suppose the more I think about it, all the technology we have would let us figure these out easily.

The seeming lack of pattern in the first proposal you posted is still kind of annoying though. At least in our current calendar, it's every four years.
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10/28/2013 6:52:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 6:43:46 PM, themohawkninja wrote:
At 10/28/2013 6:38:59 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 5:11:38 PM, themohawkninja wrote:
Both of those alternatives add more leap days, with the former having leap years at a variable number of years (either five, or six, and I can't tell if there is a pattern), which is just confusing to keep track of.

Not as confusing as how many days in a month/how to do business quarters/what days land when etc.

There is the old peaks and troughs of your hand to figure out days in a month, and I suppose the more I think about it, all the technology we have would let us figure these out easily.

The seeming lack of pattern in the first proposal you posted is still kind of annoying though. At least in our current calendar, it's every four years.

It is only that way because religious people want Monday-Sunday to keep a continuous pattern. Four leap days could be put in every three years, but they'd have to not be a Monday-Sunday day, just extra days. But unfortunately, this means that "God" days aren't every seven days consistently, which is sort of necessary here.
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10/29/2013 1:40:30 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/28/2013 6:40:07 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
At 10/28/2013 5:49:39 PM, Fruitytree wrote:
At 10/28/2013 3:47:29 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
One of the only options.

http://en.wikipedia.org...

The first is nice, I'll take a look at the second, but how necessary is it to have another callendar?

How necessary is any improvement to live? Is farming and a sewage system "necessary"?

Yes, but we already have a calendar, I want to know why is it necessary to change calendar, in what way will that improve your life ?