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 Posts: 119 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/28/2013 1:34:48 AMPosted: 4 years ago*** the begining of post 2his chapter has 19 verses. The Arabic alphabet consists of 28 letters. The number of unique Arabic letters in this chapter is 23 (i.e. repeated excluded), which is equal to the number of chromosome pairs humans have (called human haploid chromosome number).The word God - "Allah" - -appears only once in this chapter: in verse number 14. This occurrence of the word God is the 2691st from Quran's beginning. This number, 2691, is divisible perfectly by human haploid chromosome number 23. It is equal to 23 x 117. This verse (number 14) with this occurrence is the 117th verse from the end of the Holy Quran. Even more interestingly is the fact that exactly 117 letters pass by in this chapter as the phrase "Verily, to thy Lord is the return (of all)" ends (in verse 8) This corresponds to what God says in other places in the Quran that in same manner He had created Man and put him on earth, He would bring him back to Him. Our origin is 23 pairs of chromosomes and 117 signifies the end state of being raised from the dead to meet Him.This same occurrence of the word God - "Allah" - الله - is the 9th from the end of the Holy Quran (i.e. when counting from back). The interesting thing is that the 9th prime number in the universe is 23. Click here for a table of the first 1000 prime numbers in the universe.In verse number 14, where the only word for God - "Allah" - الله - appears, the last letter of this word is the 14th letter in the verse. The special thing about the number 14 is that there are exactly 14 prime numbers smaller than the number 46 (human chromosome number). The number 46 itself is not a prime number (it is equal to 23 " 2). The 14th prime number in the universe is the number 43.The word Ala'lq العلق "The Clot" appears only one time in this chapter and that in verse number 2. This word is the 9th word in this chapter. Again the 9th prime number in universe is 23. At the same time, this same word is the 64th word from the end of the chapter. The number 64 is the reversed form of the number 46 (human chromosome number). Reversing numbers in case of counting from back is supported by several studies and findings in the Holy Quran.Giving each letter in this chapter a numerical value according to three distinct letter-value systems derived from the Quran and adding the values up gives three different numbers that all divide on their own perfectly by 23 (human haploid chromosme number). The letter-value systems are these:- One based on the names of God mentioned in the Holy Quran. The sum here is 2553 which is 23 x 3 x 37- Second based on Quranic letter-initial occurrences. The sum here is 1725 which is 23 x 3 x 5 x 5- And a third called Islamic Gommal (based on Quranic meanings). The sum here is 116035 which is 23 x 5 x 1009 ....If u eat u excrete it cant be helped
 Posts: 119 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/28/2013 1:36:34 AMPosted: 4 years agoits chapter 96 ^^If u eat u excrete it cant be helped
 Posts: 720 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/28/2013 1:37:01 AMPosted: 4 years agoApophenia. seeking patterns where there are none.I am reading harry Potter, Harrys name is mentioned 240 times, which is 10*24,and 24 is the number of chromosomes humans have. OMG!http://en.wikipedia.org...Oh so I have a blog http://iamchristianiamanatheist.blogspot.kr...
 Posts: 119 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/28/2013 1:38:27 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 11/28/2013 1:37:01 AM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:Apophenia. seeking patterns where there are none.I am reading harry Potter, Harrys name is mentioned 240 times, which is 10*24,and 24 is the number of chromosomes humans have. OMG!http://en.wikipedia.org...go to the site and see how its composed...If u eat u excrete it cant be helped
 Posts: 720 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/28/2013 1:43:04 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 11/28/2013 1:38:27 AM, Somecrap wrote:At 11/28/2013 1:37:01 AM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:Apophenia. seeking patterns where there are none.I am reading harry Potter, Harrys name is mentioned 240 times, which is 10*24,and 24 is the number of chromosomes humans have. OMG!http://en.wikipedia.org...go to the site and see how its composed...Trust me I have seen this multiple times, there is no need. Its finding patterns where there are none. There are Christians that do the same thing with the bible and also say go look at the evidence and see how it is done. Again,I have seen it and its just finding patterns.Oh so I have a blog http://iamchristianiamanatheist.blogspot.kr...
 Posts: 119 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/28/2013 1:47:27 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 11/28/2013 1:37:01 AM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:Apophenia. seeking patterns where there are none.I am reading harry Potter, Harrys name is mentioned 240 times, which is 10*24,and 24 is the number of chromosomes humans have. OMG!http://en.wikipedia.org...for example see this its prove that is saved from corruption...http://www.quranwonders.com...If u eat u excrete it cant be helped
 Posts: 1,172 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/28/2013 11:35:53 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 11/28/2013 1:37:01 AM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:Apophenia. seeking patterns where there are none.I am reading harry Potter, Harrys name is mentioned 240 times, which is 10*24,and 24 is the number of chromosomes humans have. OMG!Dear, 240= 10*24 isn't a pattern. And matching it with 24 chromosomes is much closer to "Apophenia".Somecrap has shared really something special, here.Remove the "I want", remainder is the "peace". ~Al-Ghazali~ "This time will also pass", a dose to cure both; the excitement & the grievance. ~Ayaz~
 Posts: 720 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/28/2013 5:27:43 PMPosted: 4 years agoAt 11/28/2013 11:35:53 AM, Dazz wrote:At 11/28/2013 1:37:01 AM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:Apophenia. seeking patterns where there are none.I am reading harry Potter, Harrys name is mentioned 240 times, which is 10*24,and 24 is the number of chromosomes humans have. OMG!Dear, 240= 10*24 isn't a pattern. And matching it with 24 chromosomes is much closer to "Apophenia".Somecrap has shared really something special, here.I thought you may appreciate the humour,but I could extend it and say Dumbledore is mentioned 24 times as well. While Voldemort is mentioned 25,indicating he has an extra gene for evil.The point is all this rubbish about holy math is pattern seeking,which you can find anywhere.A few posts ago it was shown to happen in a Shakespeare play.http://www.debate.org...Oh so I have a blog http://iamchristianiamanatheist.blogspot.kr...
 Posts: 119 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/28/2013 10:00:39 PMPosted: 4 years agoAt 11/28/2013 5:27:43 PM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:At 11/28/2013 11:35:53 AM, Dazz wrote:At 11/28/2013 1:37:01 AM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:Apophenia. seeking patterns where there are none.I am reading harry Potter, Harrys name is mentioned 240 times, which is 10*24,and 24 is the number of chromosomes humans have. OMG!Dear, 240= 10*24 isn't a pattern. And matching it with 24 chromosomes is much closer to "Apophenia".Somecrap has shared really something special, here.I thought you may appreciate the humour,but I could extend it and say Dumbledore is mentioned 24 times as well. While Voldemort is mentioned 25,indicating he has an extra gene for evil.The point is all this rubbish about holy math is pattern seeking,which you can find anywhere.A few posts ago it was shown to happen in a Shakespeare play.http://www.debate.org...the problem is therre is so many of math relation between anything u pick from the quran... im just throwing words here the matter is when u try to count them its endless and it not coincidence.. here good sites if u want to,,http://www.godalone.org... - there is a book free to read there and believe me u cant explain them...http://www.answering-christianity.com...http://www.quranwonders.com...http://www.masjidtucson.org...http://www.miraclesofthequran.com...again this video very intresting one,,, If u eat u excrete it cant be helped
 Posts: 1,172 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/29/2013 1:37:56 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 11/28/2013 5:27:43 PM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:At 11/28/2013 11:35:53 AM, Dazz wrote:At 11/28/2013 1:37:01 AM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:Apophenia. seeking patterns where there are none.I am reading harry Potter, Harrys name is mentioned 240 times, which is 10*24,and 24 is the number of chromosomes humans have. OMG!Dear, 240= 10*24 isn't a pattern. And matching it with 24 chromosomes is much closer to "Apophenia".Somecrap has shared really something special, here.I thought you may appreciate the humour,but I could extend it and say Dumbledore is mentioned 24 times as well. While Voldemort is mentioned 25,indicating he has an extra gene for evil.The point is all this rubbish about holy math is pattern seeking,which you can find anywhere.A few posts ago it was shown to happen in a Shakespeare play.http://www.debate.org...The idea that you can find it "anywhere" is rubbish. I mean pattern which are trying to demonstrate are really arbitrary patterns which one mind can seek just for trying to attempt a counter part role against the thread nature that is which you told us called as "Apophenia". The OP is explaining a pattern that goes throughout the context but for Shakespeare and Harry Potter and others the pattern you are trying to describe is isolated that can't be applied to whole of their work. You would have to explain their complete work pattern, and that you and your provided links are not explaining well right now.Remove the "I want", remainder is the "peace". ~Al-Ghazali~ "This time will also pass", a dose to cure both; the excitement & the grievance. ~Ayaz~
 Posts: 720 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/29/2013 1:57:07 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 11/29/2013 1:37:56 AM, Dazz wrote:At 11/28/2013 5:27:43 PM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:At 11/28/2013 11:35:53 AM, Dazz wrote:At 11/28/2013 1:37:01 AM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:Apophenia. seeking patterns where there are none.I am reading harry Potter, Harrys name is mentioned 240 times, which is 10*24,and 24 is the number of chromosomes humans have. OMG!Dear, 240= 10*24 isn't a pattern. And matching it with 24 chromosomes is much closer to "Apophenia".Somecrap has shared really something special, here.I thought you may appreciate the humour,but I could extend it and say Dumbledore is mentioned 24 times as well. While Voldemort is mentioned 25,indicating he has an extra gene for evil.The point is all this rubbish about holy math is pattern seeking,which you can find anywhere.A few posts ago it was shown to happen in a Shakespeare play.http://www.debate.org...The idea that you can find it "anywhere" is rubbish. I mean pattern which are trying to demonstrate are really arbitrary patterns which one mind can seek just for trying to attempt a counter part role against the thread nature that is which you told us called as "Apophenia". The OP is explaining a pattern that goes throughout the context but for Shakespeare and Harry Potter and others the pattern you are trying to describe is isolated that can't be applied to whole of their work. You would have to explain their complete work pattern, and that you and your provided links are not explaining well right now.So why is the Bible Code patterns that people have presented not valid but the Koran patterns are?http://en.wikipedia.org...And no one is going to waste there time looking for patterns in books unless they are looking for reason to believe in it. In other words I am not going to waste my time on going through any book looking for a pattern, a book has merits based on its message and style not on some random patterns someone sees.This whole argument is absurd. If the Koran is the word of God, then show the existence of God scientifically and verified.Oh so I have a blog http://iamchristianiamanatheist.blogspot.kr...
 Posts: 1,172 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/29/2013 3:05:17 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 11/29/2013 1:57:07 AM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:At 11/29/2013 1:37:56 AM, Dazz wrote:At 11/28/2013 5:27:43 PM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:At 11/28/2013 11:35:53 AM, Dazz wrote:At 11/28/2013 1:37:01 AM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:Apophenia. seeking patterns where there are none.I am reading harry Potter, Harrys name is mentioned 240 times, which is 10*24,and 24 is the number of chromosomes humans have. OMG!Dear, 240= 10*24 isn't a pattern. And matching it with 24 chromosomes is much closer to "Apophenia".Somecrap has shared really something special, here.I thought you may appreciate the humour,but I could extend it and say Dumbledore is mentioned 24 times as well. While Voldemort is mentioned 25,indicating he has an extra gene for evil.The point is all this rubbish about holy math is pattern seeking,which you can find anywhere.A few posts ago it was shown to happen in a Shakespeare play.http://www.debate.org...The idea that you can find it "anywhere" is rubbish. I mean pattern which are trying to demonstrate are really arbitrary patterns which one mind can seek just for trying to attempt a counter part role against the thread nature that is which you told us called as "Apophenia". The OP is explaining a pattern that goes throughout the context but for Shakespeare and Harry Potter and others the pattern you are trying to describe is isolated that can't be applied to whole of their work. You would have to explain their complete work pattern, and that you and your provided links are not explaining well right now.So why is the Bible Code patterns that people have presented not valid but the Koran patterns are?http://en.wikipedia.org...And no one is going to waste there time looking for patterns in books unless they are looking for reason to believe in it. In other words I am not going to waste my time on going through any book looking for a pattern, a book has merits based on its message and style not on some random patterns someone sees.That's it. Your focus isn't on accepting pattern even if you can find it there (but denying the pattern because you aren't going to believe in the text) Dear if pattern is there, then believing in the pattern is a rational and scientific approach. Come on.If the Koran is the word of God, then show the existence of God scientifically and verified.Dear I should give you a Medal. "IF Quran is word of God, then it's itself a rational and scientific proof that God exists." Verified!I'm loving you!TC!Remove the "I want", remainder is the "peace". ~Al-Ghazali~ "This time will also pass", a dose to cure both; the excitement & the grievance. ~Ayaz~
 Posts: 35,046 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/29/2013 7:19:16 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 11/29/2013 3:05:17 AM, Dazz wrote:At 11/29/2013 1:57:07 AM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:At 11/29/2013 1:37:56 AM, Dazz wrote:At 11/28/2013 5:27:43 PM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:At 11/28/2013 11:35:53 AM, Dazz wrote:At 11/28/2013 1:37:01 AM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:Apophenia. seeking patterns where there are none.I am reading harry Potter, Harrys name is mentioned 240 times, which is 10*24,and 24 is the number of chromosomes humans have. OMG!Dear, 240= 10*24 isn't a pattern. And matching it with 24 chromosomes is much closer to "Apophenia".Somecrap has shared really something special, here.I thought you may appreciate the humour,but I could extend it and say Dumbledore is mentioned 24 times as well. While Voldemort is mentioned 25,indicating he has an extra gene for evil.The point is all this rubbish about holy math is pattern seeking,which you can find anywhere.A few posts ago it was shown to happen in a Shakespeare play.http://www.debate.org...The idea that you can find it "anywhere" is rubbish. I mean pattern which are trying to demonstrate are really arbitrary patterns which one mind can seek just for trying to attempt a counter part role against the thread nature that is which you told us called as "Apophenia". The OP is explaining a pattern that goes throughout the context but for Shakespeare and Harry Potter and others the pattern you are trying to describe is isolated that can't be applied to whole of their work. You would have to explain their complete work pattern, and that you and your provided links are not explaining well right now.So why is the Bible Code patterns that people have presented not valid but the Koran patterns are?http://en.wikipedia.org...And no one is going to waste there time looking for patterns in books unless they are looking for reason to believe in it. In other words I am not going to waste my time on going through any book looking for a pattern, a book has merits based on its message and style not on some random patterns someone sees.That's it. Your focus isn't on accepting pattern even if you can find it there (but denying the pattern because you aren't going to believe in the text) Dear if pattern is there, then believing in the pattern is a rational and scientific approach. Come on.If the Koran is the word of God, then show the existence of God scientifically and verified.Dear I should give you a Medal. "IF Quran is word of God, then it's itself a rational and scientific proof that God exists." Verified!I'm loving you!TC!Now that's funny...............lmfao."In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act".
 Posts: 720 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/29/2013 8:35:19 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 11/29/2013 3:05:17 AM, Dazz wrote:If the Koran is the word of God, then show the existence of God scientifically and verified.Dear I should give you a Medal. "IF Quran is word of God, then it's itself a rational and scientific proof that God exists." Verified!I'm loving you!TC!This must be one of the most bizarre things I have ever heard. The Bible exists and is proof for the Biblical God, hence the Koran is wrong.Let me guess you dont see the problem with this argument.Oh so I have a blog http://iamchristianiamanatheist.blogspot.kr...
 Posts: 1,172 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/29/2013 8:44:42 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 11/29/2013 8:35:19 AM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:At 11/29/2013 3:05:17 AM, Dazz wrote:If the Koran is the word of God, then show the existence of God scientifically and verified.Dear I should give you a Medal. "IF Quran is word of God, then it's itself a rational and scientific proof that God exists." Verified!I'm loving you!TC!This must be one of the most bizarre things I have ever heard. The Bible exists and is proof for the Biblical God, hence the Koran is wrong.Dear it's another false what-if argument.Bible is Proof of God. Quran verifies the Bible as the book of God. Quran is Right.Let me guess you dont see the problem with this argument.See the problem with your argument. Your guess is wrong.Remove the "I want", remainder is the "peace". ~Al-Ghazali~ "This time will also pass", a dose to cure both; the excitement & the grievance. ~Ayaz~
 Posts: 720 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 11/29/2013 8:58:44 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 11/29/2013 8:44:42 AM, Dazz wrote:At 11/29/2013 8:35:19 AM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:At 11/29/2013 3:05:17 AM, Dazz wrote:If the Koran is the word of God, then show the existence of God scientifically and verified.Dear I should give you a Medal. "IF Quran is word of God, then it's itself a rational and scientific proof that God exists." Verified!I'm loving you!TC!This must be one of the most bizarre things I have ever heard. The Bible exists and is proof for the Biblical God, hence the Koran is wrong.Dear it's another false what-if argument.Bible is Proof of God. Quran verifies the Bible as the book of God. Quran is Right.Let me guess you dont see the problem with this argument.See the problem with your argument. Your guess is wrong.According to the bible the only way to God is through Jesus. In the Koran you have to adhere to the tenants of Islam. Yet you say the Koran verifies the Bible and the the Koran is right.So again I ask you the same question, why is the Koran right and the Bible is wrong?And don"t say the Koran is right.Oh so I have a blog http://iamchristianiamanatheist.blogspot.kr...