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Psychological Evil Corroborates Satan

Human_Joke65
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11/28/2013 9:38:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Sociopaths use deception. Once caught, they're not so nice. Coincidence? How many coincidences can you withstand? Profiling Satan gets you repetitive traits in the FBI hall of infamy. You can't make this up without time travel. Foreknowledge is essential to proving authentic prophecy.
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11/28/2013 9:46:47 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/28/2013 9:38:57 PM, Human_Joke65 wrote:
Sociopaths use deception. Once caught, they're not so nice. Coincidence? How many coincidences can you withstand? Profiling Satan gets you repetitive traits in the FBI hall of infamy. You can't make this up without time travel. Foreknowledge is essential to proving authentic prophecy.

Yeah... No. There is no such thing as psychological evil, no such thing as evil actually. A sociopath, serial killer, mass murder, they are not evil. In fact, they are no different than you except specifics, they're human with needs and flaws.
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11/28/2013 9:53:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Oh no! An idiot who doesn't realize only evil people have to gain from denying evil. Lets make it personal for you? How evil would it be if one of those criminals traumatized you knowing what you believe and targeted you 'specifically'?
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11/28/2013 11:25:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/28/2013 9:53:16 PM, Human_Joke65 wrote:
Oh no! An idiot who doesn't realize only evil people have to gain from denying evil. Lets make it personal for you? How evil would it be if one of those criminals traumatized you knowing what you believe and targeted you 'specifically'?

It's happened already. They're no more evil than if a tiger attacked me. Just like you calling me an idiot, you're not simply deciding to be a jerk, it's based on numerous factors; genetic, upbringing, lack of argument, etc. We don't get anywhere calling a serial killer evil, we get somewhere by understanding why they do what they do. We've already made grea progress, such as being able to predict psychopathic tendencies based on dark spots on brain imaging. Dark spots in the brain, not soul.
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11/28/2013 11:38:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I am deciding to be a jerk for evil's sake. Identifying evil IS useful. It's a shortcut to know which people to avoid or subdue. You're taking a retarded detour which will only lead to the truth I already told you. If this weren't so, I would have told you. Rationalizing evil benefits no one. In the long run. Evil evil evil evil evil evil. I would cuss at you; but that's not my style.
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11/28/2013 11:45:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/28/2013 11:38:45 PM, Human_Joke65 wrote:
I am deciding to be a jerk for evil's sake. Identifying evil IS useful. It's a shortcut to know which people to avoid or subdue. You're taking a retarded detour which will only lead to the truth I already told you. If this weren't so, I would have told you. Rationalizing evil benefits no one. In the long run. Evil evil evil evil evil evil. I would cuss at you; but that's not my style.

I don't understand how you can be a jerk for evil's sake, especially when "jerk" is a subjective concept anyways. I don't disagree that serial killers and such should be dealt with, they do not benefit society, that's for certain. This does not make them evil though, it simply is that such crimes go against the flow of the society we have set up. Whether it is right or wrong can never be objectively shown, but it is counterproductive to our society, culture, and even species. As said, this does not make them evil. Some people are predisposed to commit such acts, others are heavily influence to do so, others simply need to. I do not know about you but I have weird traits, one being the need to wash my hands constantly when they are dirty. Sexually, there are things that completely turn me on and off, things I can not do without. If, for someone, this includes rape, torture, murder, then they are really no different than me except in how we view their acts. The things I do are not counterproductive to the species, unlike ending life.

None of this makes such people evil.
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11/28/2013 11:51:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Try telling rape isn't evil to a woman; see how practical that is, misogynist.
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11/29/2013 12:09:16 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/28/2013 11:51:29 PM, Human_Joke65 wrote:
Try telling rape isn't evil to a woman; see how practical that is, misogynist.

I dated a rape victim and also am friends with a few (what a sad world :/). I have been personally victimized, though not raped. It is hard to think objectively when something is so close to home, but that does not change anything. There are reasons a rapist rapes. Perhaps overactive sex drive, early exposure to derogatory pornography and a sexist father, an overly sensitive sense of rejection... You have to realize none of this excuses the act, but people are not just going out saying "oh, I am going to be evil". If they do in fact say this, there is a reason for it. Evil is a supernatural concept, supernatural concepts have no place being treated objectively in a natural world.

I took a criminal psychology class once, and we got into this often. I actually thought the professor hated me, she was very old and of older schools of thought. We often debated this concept of evil, and eventually she gave me the example of Joseph Mengele (I am Jewish by birth). I still argued that he was not evil. In fact, we went straight for Hitler himself. Hitler truly believed what he was doing was right. And you know what? If he had been right he would be loved and honored. The problem is Hitler's beliefs were based on superstitious nonsense and hate, they were not true. He was not helping improve the world, just slaughtering millions of innocent people. Even so, what he did was "wrong" not because of evil but because of counterproductivity. Nobody has the right to do something like that, to interfere with the Will of others like that. The craziest part is that Hitler didn't chose to be "evil" as you'd call it. Based on how he was raised, the culture, history, his own nature, that is how he became the man we know, and he truly believed he was doing the right thing.

After I turned in the final for that class she pulled me aside and literally begged me to go into crim psych haha.
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11/29/2013 12:14:14 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
If it has a conscience and is capable of wisdom.
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11/29/2013 12:17:44 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/29/2013 12:14:14 AM, Human_Joke65 wrote:
If it has a conscience and is capable of wisdom.

You'll need to define both those terms in your own words before we can go on. I need to know where you are coming from.
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11/29/2013 12:24:07 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Conscience: cerebral portion with knowledge of moral instincts.
Wisdom: knowledge of right and wrong, chooses good and in advanced stages, recognizes advanced evils.
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11/29/2013 12:30:07 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/29/2013 12:24:07 AM, Human_Joke65 wrote:
Conscience: cerebral portion with knowledge of moral instincts.
Wisdom: knowledge of right and wrong, chooses good and in advanced stages, recognizes advanced evils.

Good! Not you'll need to show that a conscious exists and that right and wrong can exist as objective concepts. Logically valid support of these two things is fine by me, no need for me a be a d-bag and go asking for scientific proof.
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11/29/2013 12:30:45 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/29/2013 12:30:07 AM, 21st_Century_Occultist wrote:
At 11/29/2013 12:24:07 AM, Human_Joke65 wrote:
Conscience: cerebral portion with knowledge of moral instincts.
Wisdom: knowledge of right and wrong, chooses good and in advanced stages, recognizes advanced evils.

Good! Not you'll need to show that a conscious exists and that right and wrong can exist as objective concepts. Logically valid support of these two things is fine by me, no need for me a be a d-bag and go asking for scientific proof.

Now you'll need to show, not "not". Sorry about that.
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11/29/2013 2:48:42 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At least two religious Story books never even use the Hebrew Term Satan -

1. The YLT

2. The EMPHATIC DIAGLOTT published by the J.ws BotchTowerites

So when I ask J.ws & others to demonstrate their naughty Satan ideology using those Story books, they all run for cover dragging their pathetic excuses for their failure with them!

QED