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11/30/2013 1:32:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
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This is a joke right? Because if it is, it's pretty funny. Atheists won't let religion decide laws, but I have found that atheists are more likely to allow religions to have equal rights. Do you know who protested the mosque on ground zero, the mosque that had 0 connection to the 9/11 attacks? Was it atheists?
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11/30/2013 2:12:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
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I wasn't able to open your youtube reference. My smartphone isn't as smart as it pretends to be. But, imho, a wealthy web of wealthy corporations: big oil/gas, big pharma, agri-business, chemical cos., etc., own and run and RULE not only the usa, but also the world, and at thE center of each interlocking web sits a big fat bloated spider, e.g. The wealthiest i ndividuals and families in the World. The governments of same are wholly-owned subsidiaries of same. Do these companies and individuals worship any god other than money? although they may pretend a religious imperative when it suits them. I would much prefer a group of atheist philosophers/secular humanists and/or socialists to the titans of capitalism everyone seems to be supporting and worshiping today. The Walton multi-billionaires can't even give us a clean bathroom and a flipping roll of toilet paper!
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11/30/2013 3:16:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
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Christians already rule America and look what happened. It's a good thing this world is only an illusion to make us believe it's real. Our Creator knows exactly what He's doing with this world but His knowledge is hidden from man to know the future. Only us saints know what will happen to America and all the countries of this world soon.
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12/1/2013 10:59:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/30/2013 3:16:54 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:


Christians already rule America and look what happened. It's a good thing this world is only an illusion to make us believe it's real. Our Creator knows exactly what He's doing with this world but His knowledge is hidden from man to know the future. Only us saints know what will happen to America and all the countries of this world soon.

Where is your evidence for any of these claims?
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12/1/2013 11:17:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
If Atheists ruled America, not much would change.

The US would still be invading countries, corrupted by big-business, and generally just as USA-ish as it is today.
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12/1/2013 11:44:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 10:59:05 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:16:54 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:


Christians already rule America and look what happened. It's a good thing this world is only an illusion to make us believe it's real. Our Creator knows exactly what He's doing with this world but His knowledge is hidden from man to know the future. Only us saints know what will happen to America and all the countries of this world soon.

Where is your evidence for any of these claims?

He has none... I still have a challenge left open; tell me how many chocolates are on the picture on the tin I have in on my desk. If he can tell me the number, I'll believe haha
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12/2/2013 8:59:25 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 11:44:11 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/1/2013 10:59:05 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:16:54 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:


Christians already rule America and look what happened. It's a good thing this world is only an illusion to make us believe it's real. Our Creator knows exactly what He's doing with this world but His knowledge is hidden from man to know the future. Only us saints know what will happen to America and all the countries of this world soon.

Where is your evidence for any of these claims?

He has none... I still have a challenge left open; tell me how many chocolates are on the picture on the tin I have in on my desk. If he can tell me the number, I'll believe haha

42, that's the answer for everything. That's also the grade I got on a math test for selecting 42 as the answer for every problem I didn't know.
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12/2/2013 2:27:53 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 10:59:05 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:16:54 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:


Christians already rule America and look what happened. It's a good thing this world is only an illusion to make us believe it's real. Our Creator knows exactly what He's doing with this world but His knowledge is hidden from man to know the future. Only us saints know what will happen to America and all the countries of this world soon.

Where is your evidence for any of these claims?

Evidence of an invisible Creator and His invisible creation, which is energy, has no physical proof of existing but scientists know energy exists because we're using energy every day. Some of you unbelievers don't believe energy is information and all information came from our Creator. Where else do you think information came from?
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12/2/2013 2:28:50 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 11:44:11 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/1/2013 10:59:05 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:16:54 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:


Christians already rule America and look what happened. It's a good thing this world is only an illusion to make us believe it's real. Our Creator knows exactly what He's doing with this world but His knowledge is hidden from man to know the future. Only us saints know what will happen to America and all the countries of this world soon.

Where is your evidence for any of these claims?

He has none... I still have a challenge left open; tell me how many chocolates are on the picture on the tin I have in on my desk. If he can tell me the number, I'll believe haha
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12/2/2013 2:31:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 11:44:11 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/1/2013 10:59:05 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:16:54 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:


Christians already rule America and look what happened. It's a good thing this world is only an illusion to make us believe it's real. Our Creator knows exactly what He's doing with this world but His knowledge is hidden from man to know the future. Only us saints know what will happen to America and all the countries of this world soon.

Where is your evidence for any of these claims?

He has none... I still have a challenge left open; tell me how many chocolates are on the picture on the tin I have in on my desk. If he can tell me the number, I'll believe haha

I have personal evidence that our Creator exists but most Christians and atheists don't believe in a Creator. They either believe in Jesus or they don't believe in Jesus, which is a false god that our Creator designed to keep most of His people deceived from our true existence.
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12/2/2013 3:03:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/2/2013 2:31:35 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/1/2013 11:44:11 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/1/2013 10:59:05 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:16:54 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:


Christians already rule America and look what happened. It's a good thing this world is only an illusion to make us believe it's real. Our Creator knows exactly what He's doing with this world but His knowledge is hidden from man to know the future. Only us saints know what will happen to America and all the countries of this world soon.

Where is your evidence for any of these claims?

He has none... I still have a challenge left open; tell me how many chocolates are on the picture on the tin I have in on my desk. If he can tell me the number, I'll believe haha

I have personal evidence that our Creator exists but most Christians and atheists don't believe in a Creator. They either believe in Jesus or they don't believe in Jesus, which is a false god that our Creator designed to keep most of His people deceived from our true existence.

I have personal evidence that Lord Graesil shu Aln de Alanai en Saeron will leave his world and come here. He has used my brain to create a non-physical portal to our world which he will expand with Ether. Then he will raise his army of wizards from his world, and use Magic and Ether to invade ours. Firemen vs. Magical fire and army of wizards casting it from a hidden location. Magical fire wins.

"I have personal evidence..."

Lol.
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12/2/2013 3:40:40 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/2/2013 2:31:35 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/1/2013 11:44:11 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/1/2013 10:59:05 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:16:54 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:


Christians already rule America and look what happened. It's a good thing this world is only an illusion to make us believe it's real. Our Creator knows exactly what He's doing with this world but His knowledge is hidden from man to know the future. Only us saints know what will happen to America and all the countries of this world soon.

Where is your evidence for any of these claims?

He has none... I still have a challenge left open; tell me how many chocolates are on the picture on the tin I have in on my desk. If he can tell me the number, I'll believe haha

I have personal evidence that our Creator exists but most Christians and atheists don't believe in a Creator. They either believe in Jesus or they don't believe in Jesus, which is a false god that our Creator designed to keep most of His people deceived from our true existence.

If God deceives people from "our true existance", how do you know that your personal evidence is not the deceipt?

You've already said that God deceives; why is it everyone else?
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12/2/2013 10:10:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/2/2013 3:40:40 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 12/2/2013 2:31:35 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/1/2013 11:44:11 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/1/2013 10:59:05 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:16:54 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:


Christians already rule America and look what happened. It's a good thing this world is only an illusion to make us believe it's real. Our Creator knows exactly what He's doing with this world but His knowledge is hidden from man to know the future. Only us saints know what will happen to America and all the countries of this world soon.

Where is your evidence for any of these claims?

He has none... I still have a challenge left open; tell me how many chocolates are on the picture on the tin I have in on my desk. If he can tell me the number, I'll believe haha

I have personal evidence that our Creator exists but most Christians and atheists don't believe in a Creator. They either believe in Jesus or they don't believe in Jesus, which is a false god that our Creator designed to keep most of His people deceived from our true existence.

If God deceives people from "our true existance", how do you know that your personal evidence is not the deceipt?

You've already said that God deceives; why is it everyone else?

Everyone is deceived of who we really are as we're born into this world through the womb of a mother. The only people who weren't born of a womb were the first two bodies called a male and a female. They awakened in this world as adults. Since they had no memory, they had to be taught everything, even a language to speak to each other.

God's plan was to teach His people who we are but He only needed a few bodies during this age to reveal the knowledge of how and why we exist. His plan was to use bodies named prophets and saints to witness His knowledge and testify through having His bodies write and speak. Since His knowledge is invisible to man, He had to use the language that His prophets and saints speak in this world to learn what this hidden knowledge is all about. It's much like a painter who has ideas in his mind of what to paint but he can't see it until he applies brush stokes of paint on a canvas to see it. The brush strokes on the canvas is the language needed to understand the invisible thoughts within his mind.

The prophets were used by God to write about future events but they didn't have the hidden knowledge revealed in their mind to understand what they were writing about. This is because they were blocked from this knowledge because of the Old Covenant "veil", which is like a computer program designed to keep certain people from information on the internet. We have programs designed to keep children from observing pornography on the internet so the "veil" is similar to this but it keeps God's people from observing His hidden knowledge.

In the first three centuries, during the Roman Empire which had free speech laws, God used saints to reveal His hidden knowledge. Each saint starts out as everyone else born into this world with the Old Covenant "veil" blocking God's hidden knowledge. At some point in his life, God comes into his mind to start the process of changing the energy ( information ) in his flesh that causes the blockage from His knowledge. It takes God many years to remove this "veil" from His future saint but once removed, a saint is born into His hidden knowledge, which is called the born again experience that no Christian has ever understood, even though they say they're born again. They think by reading words in a book that they're saints who are born again. This means that if a child reads a superman book that they can call themselves superman.

We saints know that we're born into His knowledge because God has us start writing as soon as this knowledge is revealed in our mind. It's impossible to understand this knowledge unless it is testified in a language we understand. God's knowledge is invisible to us, even though it's opened up to us within our mind, like the knowledge a painter has before he begins to paint the picture, or an inventor has before he draws plans to build what he sees in his mind.

I have thousands of pages of writings and comments in forums besides the five years of spoken testimonies to help me understand God's hidden knowledge, which is actually my created existence. Everything was created from this hidden knowledge, which is called the Kingdom of God in the Bible. It's also called the Word of God. Christians think that the Word of God is the words written in a Bible but the true Word is the invisible knowledge that no man can ever see within our minds. It has to be spoken or written in an earthly language we can understand so this hidden knowledge is converted into knowledge we see on paper or heard with our ears. Bodily language is another language we possess that is different from anyone else in this world. Our bodies respond to our created existence so this is why I'm able to cook food everyday for my homeless friends. Christians can't understand how a homeless man can cook for 15 to 20 people every day without any money.

I have thousands of believers who can hear the Truth in my testimonies but most Christians can't hear the Truth, They believe in false gods and religious ideas, instead. This blocks them from hearing the Truth, which is part of the "veil" that blinds them from God's hidden knowledge that we speak from. So God used religion to keep most of His people from learning about His hidden knowledge that is revealed in the mind of us saints.
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12/2/2013 10:12:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/2/2013 3:03:34 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 12/2/2013 2:31:35 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/1/2013 11:44:11 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/1/2013 10:59:05 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:16:54 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:


Christians already rule America and look what happened. It's a good thing this world is only an illusion to make us believe it's real. Our Creator knows exactly what He's doing with this world but His knowledge is hidden from man to know the future. Only us saints know what will happen to America and all the countries of this world soon.

Where is your evidence for any of these claims?

He has none... I still have a challenge left open; tell me how many chocolates are on the picture on the tin I have in on my desk. If he can tell me the number, I'll believe haha

I have personal evidence that our Creator exists but most Christians and atheists don't believe in a Creator. They either believe in Jesus or they don't believe in Jesus, which is a false god that our Creator designed to keep most of His people deceived from our true existence.

I have personal evidence that Lord Graesil shu Aln de Alanai en Saeron will leave his world and come here. He has used my brain to create a non-physical portal to our world which he will expand with Ether. Then he will raise his army of wizards from his world, and use Magic and Ether to invade ours. Firemen vs. Magical fire and army of wizards casting it from a hidden location. Magical fire wins.

"I have personal evidence..."

Lol.

God put you on a different planet.
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12/3/2013 12:21:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/2/2013 10:12:11 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/2/2013 3:03:34 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 12/2/2013 2:31:35 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/1/2013 11:44:11 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/1/2013 10:59:05 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:16:54 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:


Christians already rule America and look what happened. It's a good thing this world is only an illusion to make us believe it's real. Our Creator knows exactly what He's doing with this world but His knowledge is hidden from man to know the future. Only us saints know what will happen to America and all the countries of this world soon.

Where is your evidence for any of these claims?

He has none... I still have a challenge left open; tell me how many chocolates are on the picture on the tin I have in on my desk. If he can tell me the number, I'll believe haha

I have personal evidence that our Creator exists but most Christians and atheists don't believe in a Creator. They either believe in Jesus or they don't believe in Jesus, which is a false god that our Creator designed to keep most of His people deceived from our true existence.

I have personal evidence that Lord Graesil shu Aln de Alanai en Saeron will leave his world and come here. He has used my brain to create a non-physical portal to our world which he will expand with Ether. Then he will raise his army of wizards from his world, and use Magic and Ether to invade ours. Firemen vs. Magical fire and army of wizards casting it from a hidden location. Magical fire wins.

"I have personal evidence..."

Lol.

God put you on a different planet.

I'm pretty sure I'm on Earth. The same earth you are most likely on.
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Name: Grae
Titles: Lord, x'Sor Linniae (the false king), Elven War Chief, Heir to Aln
Class: Melee Archer/ Orator
Main Stats: Charisma, Dexterity
Weilds: Bladebow, Elven Slim Sword
Skills: Oration, Double Shot, Backstab, Snatch, Overwhelm Mind, Dominate, Parley, Restorative Sleep
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12/3/2013 1:21:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
"I have personal evidence..."

Lol.

God put you on a different planet.

I'm pretty sure I'm on Earth. The same earth you are most likely on.

BOG is off constructing a new foil skullcap (his old one was tarnished by Ether, I believe), he'll be back with us shortly (more or less with us, that is). In the interim, I would like to say it has been a pleasure reading your posts. I am sick of the religious "right." I mean, actually physically nauseated. Debate is a rational process. You cannot reason with the willfully ignorant and/or their superstitions. Pretty much a total waste of time and energy. If you want to get the JWs off your step permanently invest in a Belgian Malinois. I have 2 who ( for some odd reason) despise JWs with a passion! Haven't seen a one of them in years! I wish I had a snap of the last group standing on the hood and roof of their car in my driveway! Priceless! For now, I'm looking for atheist/agnostic friends -- not (more) fighting. So I bid you and bulproof and sleevedagger and s.anthony and other free thinkers on this forum a fond adieu! Would have sent a message but my screen kept locking up--I am hopelessly tech challenged.
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12/3/2013 1:44:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 10:59:05 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:16:54 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:


Christians already rule America and look what happened. It's a good thing this world is only an illusion to make us believe it's real. Our Creator knows exactly what He's doing with this world but His knowledge is hidden from man to know the future. Only us saints know what will happen to America and all the countries of this world soon.

Where is your evidence for any of these claims?

Look at his thread:

http://www.debate.org...
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12/3/2013 6:26:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/3/2013 1:44:57 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:
At 12/1/2013 10:59:05 PM, Lordgrae wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:16:54 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/30/2013 8:50:34 AM, Installgentoo wrote:


Christians already rule America and look what happened. It's a good thing this world is only an illusion to make us believe it's real. Our Creator knows exactly what He's doing with this world but His knowledge is hidden from man to know the future. Only us saints know what will happen to America and all the countries of this world soon.

Where is your evidence for any of these claims?

Look at his thread:

http://www.debate.org...

Bornofgod merely asserted without any evidence for his claims. I have seen bornofgod's posts. They are not very convincing.
Birth Name: Graesil s'h'u Aln s'de Alanai'u s'se Saeron
Name: Grae
Titles: Lord, x'Sor Linniae (the false king), Elven War Chief, Heir to Aln
Class: Melee Archer/ Orator
Main Stats: Charisma, Dexterity
Weilds: Bladebow, Elven Slim Sword
Skills: Oration, Double Shot, Backstab, Snatch, Overwhelm Mind, Dominate, Parley, Restorative Sleep
Personal History: Born as the second of triplets, he was wed at an early age to a Dryad. He escaped several times, and on the last was captured and enslaved
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12/3/2013 7:13:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/3/2013 1:21:02 PM, Kassandra wrote:
"I have personal evidence..."

Lol.

God put you on a different planet.

I'm pretty sure I'm on Earth. The same earth you are most likely on.

BOG is off constructing a new foil skullcap (his old one was tarnished by Ether, I believe), he'll be back with us shortly (more or less with us, that is). In the interim, I would like to say it has been a pleasure reading your posts. I am sick of the religious "right." I mean, actually physically nauseated. Debate is a rational process. You cannot reason with the willfully ignorant and/or their superstitions. Pretty much a total waste of time and energy. If you want to get the JWs off your step permanently invest in a Belgian Malinois. I have 2 who ( for some odd reason) despise JWs with a passion! Haven't seen a one of them in years! I wish I had a snap of the last group standing on the hood and roof of their car in my driveway! Priceless! For now, I'm looking for atheist/agnostic friends -- not (more) fighting. So I bid you and bulproof and sleevedagger and s.anthony and other free thinkers on this forum a fond adieu! Would have sent a message but my screen kept locking up--I am hopelessly tech challenged.

Don't you dare leave! You have been a tornado of fresh air LOL. But if you gotta go, then thanks for coming. You brightened my days.
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