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11/30/2013 3:26:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Most people criticise and abuse religion, in both senses of the word abuse, because they don't even realise what it truly is.

They think of worship as some formalised set of rites and traditions. That could not be further from the truth.

They think religion is about control, whereas in fact it is about self control and accepting the responsibility for our decisions and choices.

You cite the attitude of religionists to homosexuals, and with some validity, however do you think of the responsibility of those who decide to take that course of life? Please don;t say it isn't a choice, because it is, as is practically everything bar breathing, and even that can be a choice if you choose to stop doing it.

I don't intend to get into the futile argument about whether or not homosexual impulses are natural to some or not, no-one can prove that either way.

However there is no valid argument for giving in to those impulses, and many valid arguments against doing so, with all the harm that can do to others, if only by providing a bad example.

All those who truly understand what religion, and the worship of the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ actually meant and practised it as Christ and the Apostles taught, this would could only be a much better place to live.

As Ghandi, who loved the idea of Christianity but despised Christians because they didn't live according to it's precepts said, if mankind lived purely by the teachings embedded in the sermon on the mount, there would be no need for armies or police forces, or even for laws, because no-one would do anything to the detriment of any other.

That is what Christianity as practised by Christ and the Apostles is all about.

Why is that the case?

Because true Christianity only has, and only needs two laws,a s Jesus pointed out. they are both impossible to obey separately and if you do not obey the one you cannot possibly obey the other.

They are:

You must love Jehovah your God with you whole heart, your whole mind and your whole being.

and

You must love your fellow man as you love yourself.

That is the heart and soul of what Christ taught. Fulfil those two to the best of your ability and there is no need for any otehr law at all, because no-one will do any harm to any other and will strive to benefit others as they would have others benefit them.

That would, if practised by all be the end of all human problems. When there are only those left alive on the earth who agree to live by those two laws, then God will allow us to live forever as he intended Adam to do.

That day will come because it is a promise from God, and God never goes back on his word, for good or ill.
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11/30/2013 3:35:27 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/30/2013 3:26:36 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Most people criticise and abuse religion, in both senses of the word abuse, because they don't even realise what it truly is.

They think of worship as some formalised set of rites and traditions. That could not be further from the truth.

They think religion is about control, whereas in fact it is about self control and accepting the responsibility for our decisions and choices.

You cite the attitude of religionists to homosexuals, and with some validity, however do you think of the responsibility of those who decide to take that course of life? Please don;t say it isn't a choice, because it is, as is practically everything bar breathing, and even that can be a choice if you choose to stop doing it.

I don't intend to get into the futile argument about whether or not homosexual impulses are natural to some or not, no-one can prove that either way.

However there is no valid argument for giving in to those impulses, and many valid arguments against doing so, with all the harm that can do to others, if only by providing a bad example.

All those who truly understand what religion, and the worship of the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ actually meant and practised it as Christ and the Apostles taught, this would could only be a much better place to live.

As Ghandi, who loved the idea of Christianity but despised Christians because they didn't live according to it's precepts said, if mankind lived purely by the teachings embedded in the sermon on the mount, there would be no need for armies or police forces, or even for laws, because no-one would do anything to the detriment of any other.

That is what Christianity as practised by Christ and the Apostles is all about.

Why is that the case?

Because true Christianity only has, and only needs two laws,a s Jesus pointed out. they are both impossible to obey separately and if you do not obey the one you cannot possibly obey the other.

They are:

You must love Jehovah your God with you whole heart, your whole mind and your whole being.

and

You must love your fellow man as you love yourself.

That is the heart and soul of what Christ taught. Fulfil those two to the best of your ability and there is no need for any otehr law at all, because no-one will do any harm to any other and will strive to benefit others as they would have others benefit them.

That would, if practised by all be the end of all human problems. When there are only those left alive on the earth who agree to live by those two laws, then God will allow us to live forever as he intended Adam to do.

That day will come because it is a promise from God, and God never goes back on his word, for good or ill.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!!

St Paul knew that religions of men weren't the way to the Truth.

Acts 17: 24-31
24: The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in shrines made by man,
25: nor is he served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives to all men life and breath and everything.
26: And he made from one every nation of men to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their habitation,
27: that they should seek God, in the hope that they might feel after him and find him. Yet he is not far from each one of us,
28: for ..In him we live and move and have our being'; as even some of your poets have said, ..For we are indeed his offspring.'
29: Being then God's offspring, we ought not to think that the Deity is like gold, or silver, or stone, a representation by the art and imagination of man.

Religion came from the beast, not from the prophets and saints who's flesh God used for His purpose to reveal Himself and HIs eternal plan. Religious people used the words of the saints and prophets for personal gain and power over other sinners to control them.

None of us saints use religious ideas ( water baptism, the Eucharist, hell belief, bodily resurrections, etc. ) to control people with. All we do is share a message of hope for God's believers ( those chosen to listen to our gospel ), which is the voice of God, not words in a book authorized by the Roman Vatican.
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11/30/2013 4:05:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/30/2013 3:26:36 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Most people criticise and abuse religion, in both senses of the word abuse, because they don't even realise what it truly is.

They think of worship as some formalised set of rites and traditions. That could not be further from the truth.

They think religion is about control, whereas in fact it is about self control and accepting the responsibility for our decisions and choices.

You cite the attitude of religionists to homosexuals, and with some validity, however do you think of the responsibility of those who decide to take that course of life? Please don;t say it isn't a choice, because it is, as is practically everything bar breathing, and even that can be a choice if you choose to stop doing it.

I don't intend to get into the futile argument about whether or not homosexual impulses are natural to some or not, no-one can prove that either way.

However there is no valid argument for giving in to those impulses, and many valid arguments against doing so, with all the harm that can do to others, if only by providing a bad example.

All those who truly understand what religion, and the worship of the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ actually meant and practised it as Christ and the Apostles taught, this would could only be a much better place to live.

As Ghandi, who loved the idea of Christianity but despised Christians because they didn't live according to it's precepts said, if mankind lived purely by the teachings embedded in the sermon on the mount, there would be no need for armies or police forces, or even for laws, because no-one would do anything to the detriment of any other.

That is what Christianity as practised by Christ and the Apostles is all about.

Why is that the case?

Because true Christianity only has, and only needs two laws,a s Jesus pointed out. they are both impossible to obey separately and if you do not obey the one you cannot possibly obey the other.

They are:

You must love Jehovah your God with you whole heart, your whole mind and your whole being.

and

You must love your fellow man as you love yourself.

That is the heart and soul of what Christ taught. Fulfil those two to the best of your ability and there is no need for any otehr law at all, because no-one will do any harm to any other and will strive to benefit others as they would have others benefit them.

That would, if practised by all be the end of all human problems. When there are only those left alive on the earth who agree to live by those two laws, then God will allow us to live forever as he intended Adam to do.

That day will come because it is a promise from God, and God never goes back on his word, for good or ill.

religion is religion and should be religion
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11/30/2013 4:18:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/30/2013 4:05:07 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:26:36 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Most people criticise and abuse religion, in both senses of the word abuse, because they don't even realise what it truly is.

They think of worship as some formalised set of rites and traditions. That could not be further from the truth.

They think religion is about control, whereas in fact it is about self control and accepting the responsibility for our decisions and choices.

You cite the attitude of religionists to homosexuals, and with some validity, however do you think of the responsibility of those who decide to take that course of life? Please don;t say it isn't a choice, because it is, as is practically everything bar breathing, and even that can be a choice if you choose to stop doing it.

I don't intend to get into the futile argument about whether or not homosexual impulses are natural to some or not, no-one can prove that either way.

However there is no valid argument for giving in to those impulses, and many valid arguments against doing so, with all the harm that can do to others, if only by providing a bad example.

All those who truly understand what religion, and the worship of the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ actually meant and practised it as Christ and the Apostles taught, this would could only be a much better place to live.

As Ghandi, who loved the idea of Christianity but despised Christians because they didn't live according to it's precepts said, if mankind lived purely by the teachings embedded in the sermon on the mount, there would be no need for armies or police forces, or even for laws, because no-one would do anything to the detriment of any other.

That is what Christianity as practised by Christ and the Apostles is all about.

Why is that the case?

Because true Christianity only has, and only needs two laws,a s Jesus pointed out. they are both impossible to obey separately and if you do not obey the one you cannot possibly obey the other.

They are:

You must love Jehovah your God with you whole heart, your whole mind and your whole being.

and

You must love your fellow man as you love yourself.

That is the heart and soul of what Christ taught. Fulfil those two to the best of your ability and there is no need for any otehr law at all, because no-one will do any harm to any other and will strive to benefit others as they would have others benefit them.

That would, if practised by all be the end of all human problems. When there are only those left alive on the earth who agree to live by those two laws, then God will allow us to live forever as he intended Adam to do.

That day will come because it is a promise from God, and God never goes back on his word, for good or ill.

religion is religion and should be religion

Yes, it's just a shame for humanity that it isn't.
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11/30/2013 4:49:27 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/30/2013 4:18:46 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 11/30/2013 4:05:07 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:26:36 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Most people criticise and abuse religion, in both senses of the word abuse, because they don't even realise what it truly is.

They think of worship as some formalised set of rites and traditions. That could not be further from the truth.

They think religion is about control, whereas in fact it is about self control and accepting the responsibility for our decisions and choices.

You cite the attitude of religionists to homosexuals, and with some validity, however do you think of the responsibility of those who decide to take that course of life? Please don;t say it isn't a choice, because it is, as is practically everything bar breathing, and even that can be a choice if you choose to stop doing it.

I don't intend to get into the futile argument about whether or not homosexual impulses are natural to some or not, no-one can prove that either way.

However there is no valid argument for giving in to those impulses, and many valid arguments against doing so, with all the harm that can do to others, if only by providing a bad example.

All those who truly understand what religion, and the worship of the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ actually meant and practised it as Christ and the Apostles taught, this would could only be a much better place to live.

As Ghandi, who loved the idea of Christianity but despised Christians because they didn't live according to it's precepts said, if mankind lived purely by the teachings embedded in the sermon on the mount, there would be no need for armies or police forces, or even for laws, because no-one would do anything to the detriment of any other.

That is what Christianity as practised by Christ and the Apostles is all about.

Why is that the case?

Because true Christianity only has, and only needs two laws,a s Jesus pointed out. they are both impossible to obey separately and if you do not obey the one you cannot possibly obey the other.

They are:

You must love Jehovah your God with you whole heart, your whole mind and your whole being.

and

You must love your fellow man as you love yourself.

That is the heart and soul of what Christ taught. Fulfil those two to the best of your ability and there is no need for any otehr law at all, because no-one will do any harm to any other and will strive to benefit others as they would have others benefit them.

That would, if practised by all be the end of all human problems. When there are only those left alive on the earth who agree to live by those two laws, then God will allow us to live forever as he intended Adam to do.

That day will come because it is a promise from God, and God never goes back on his word, for good or ill.

religion is religion and should be religion

Yes, it's just a shame for humanity that it isn't.

no shame it is
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11/30/2013 10:42:55 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/30/2013 3:26:36 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Most people criticise and abuse religion, in both senses of the word abuse, because they don't even realise what it truly is.

They think of worship as some formalised set of rites and traditions. That could not be further from the truth.

They think religion is about control, whereas in fact it is about self control and accepting the responsibility for our decisions and choices.

You cite the attitude of religionists to homosexuals, and with some validity, however do you think of the responsibility of those who decide to take that course of life? Please don;t say it isn't a choice, because it is, as is practically everything bar breathing, and even that can be a choice if you choose to stop doing it.

I don't intend to get into the futile argument about whether or not homosexual impulses are natural to some or not, no-one can prove that either way.

However there is no valid argument for giving in to those impulses, and many valid arguments against doing so, with all the harm that can do to others, if only by providing a bad example.

All those who truly understand what religion, and the worship of the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ actually meant and practised it as Christ and the Apostles taught, this would could only be a much better place to live.

As Ghandi, who loved the idea of Christianity but despised Christians because they didn't live according to it's precepts said, if mankind lived purely by the teachings embedded in the sermon on the mount, there would be no need for armies or police forces, or even for laws, because no-one would do anything to the detriment of any other.

That is what Christianity as practised by Christ and the Apostles is all about.

Why is that the case?

Because true Christianity only has, and only needs two laws,a s Jesus pointed out. they are both impossible to obey separately and if you do not obey the one you cannot possibly obey the other.

They are:

You must love Jehovah your God with you whole heart, your whole mind and your whole being.

and

You must love your fellow man as you love yourself.

That is the heart and soul of what Christ taught. Fulfil those two to the best of your ability and there is no need for any otehr law at all, because no-one will do any harm to any other and will strive to benefit others as they would have others benefit them.

That would, if practised by all be the end of all human problems. When there are only those left alive on the earth who agree to live by those two laws, then God will allow us to live forever as he intended Adam to do.

That day will come because it is a promise from God, and God never goes back on his word, for good or ill.

No flesh of man will agree to loving the Lord because it was made from God's plan called the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Our spirit was created by the "tree of Life", also known as the "breath of life".
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12/1/2013 2:50:58 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/30/2013 4:49:27 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/30/2013 4:18:46 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 11/30/2013 4:05:07 PM, yay842 wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:26:36 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
Most people criticise and abuse religion, in both senses of the word abuse, because they don't even realise what it truly is.

They think of worship as some formalised set of rites and traditions. That could not be further from the truth.

They think religion is about control, whereas in fact it is about self control and accepting the responsibility for our decisions and choices.

You cite the attitude of religionists to homosexuals, and with some validity, however do you think of the responsibility of those who decide to take that course of life? Please don;t say it isn't a choice, because it is, as is practically everything bar breathing, and even that can be a choice if you choose to stop doing it.

I don't intend to get into the futile argument about whether or not homosexual impulses are natural to some or not, no-one can prove that either way.

However there is no valid argument for giving in to those impulses, and many valid arguments against doing so, with all the harm that can do to others, if only by providing a bad example.

All those who truly understand what religion, and the worship of the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ actually meant and practised it as Christ and the Apostles taught, this would could only be a much better place to live.

As Ghandi, who loved the idea of Christianity but despised Christians because they didn't live according to it's precepts said, if mankind lived purely by the teachings embedded in the sermon on the mount, there would be no need for armies or police forces, or even for laws, because no-one would do anything to the detriment of any other.

That is what Christianity as practised by Christ and the Apostles is all about.

Why is that the case?

Because true Christianity only has, and only needs two laws,a s Jesus pointed out. they are both impossible to obey separately and if you do not obey the one you cannot possibly obey the other.

They are:

You must love Jehovah your God with you whole heart, your whole mind and your whole being.

and

You must love your fellow man as you love yourself.

That is the heart and soul of what Christ taught. Fulfil those two to the best of your ability and there is no need for any otehr law at all, because no-one will do any harm to any other and will strive to benefit others as they would have others benefit them.

That would, if practised by all be the end of all human problems. When there are only those left alive on the earth who agree to live by those two laws, then God will allow us to live forever as he intended Adam to do.

That day will come because it is a promise from God, and God never goes back on his word, for good or ill.

religion is religion and should be religion

Yes, it's just a shame for humanity that it isn't.

no shame it is

Hardly applies since it isn't what it should be. Like everything else on this planet mankind has messed it up pretty bad.
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12/1/2013 3:41:16 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/30/2013 3:26:36 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
They think religion is about control, whereas in fact it is about self control and accepting the responsibility for our decisions and choices.
LOL! The only control dupes like YOU have is NONE!

Should you grovel your sorry a_ss back to the Paedopjhile Protecting Botchtowerite Paradise, you will be immediately placed back under the 100% control of these Paedophile Protecting Bethelites, that demand you LIE & preach error for them, as they deem fit & at ALL & ANY Cost! Proof: Douglas-Walsh Trial Transcript, Scotland, 1954.

You & these Paedophile protectors are a disgrace!
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12/1/2013 4:00:44 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 3:41:16 AM, Composer wrote:
At 11/30/2013 3:26:36 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
They think religion is about control, whereas in fact it is about self control and accepting the responsibility for our decisions and choices.
LOL! The only control dupes like YOU have is NONE!

Should you grovel your sorry a_ss back to the Paedopjhile Protecting Botchtowerite Paradise, you will be immediately placed back under the 100% control of these Paedophile Protecting Bethelites, that demand you LIE & preach error for them, as they deem fit & at ALL & ANY Cost! Proof: Douglas-Walsh Trial Transcript, Scotland, 1954.

You & these Paedophile protectors are a disgrace!


They don't protect paedophiles, that is yet another vile calumny spread by those with a grudge. If you had the vaguest notion what you are talking a bout you would know that.

Can't say I find your drivel entertaining, just pathetic.
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12/1/2013 4:10:35 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
It's opiate for the masses. It should be opiate for the masses, otherwise the poor simpletons wouldn't know right from wrong.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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12/1/2013 4:30:25 AM
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At 12/1/2013 4:10:35 AM, bulproof wrote:
It's opiate for the masses. It should be opiate for the masses, otherwise the poor simpletons wouldn't know right from wrong.

Oh it's no opiate, it doesn't allow you to hide from the truth as opiates do.
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12/1/2013 4:35:21 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 4:30:25 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 4:10:35 AM, bulproof wrote:
It's opiate for the masses. It should be opiate for the masses, otherwise the poor simpletons wouldn't know right from wrong.

Oh it's no opiate, it doesn't allow you to hide from the truth as opiates do.

You just proved my point madman.

How long have you been claiming the armageddon event is just around the corner? LOL?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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12/1/2013 9:29:31 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 4:35:21 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/1/2013 4:30:25 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 4:10:35 AM, bulproof wrote:
It's opiate for the masses. It should be opiate for the masses, otherwise the poor simpletons wouldn't know right from wrong.

Oh it's no opiate, it doesn't allow you to hide from the truth as opiates do.

You just proved my point madman.

How long have you been claiming the armageddon event is just around the corner? LOL?

In God's terms it is.
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12/1/2013 9:50:23 AM
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At 12/1/2013 9:30:42 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 5:19:02 AM, Sleevedagger wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...


This is religion.

That is false religion the true faith is very different.

like what exactly?
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12/1/2013 10:23:12 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 9:50:23 AM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 9:30:42 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 5:19:02 AM, Sleevedagger wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...


This is religion.

That is false religion the true faith is very different.

like what exactly?

Like I have already explained that religion should be..
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12/1/2013 11:02:45 AM
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Sleevedagger and Bulproof - MCB and BOG are seeds that fell on rocks and brambles. They have produced stunted vines bearing not fruit--only Nutz! If we leave them to spout their inanities at each other, perhaps they will blow sufficient hot air on one another to dry each other up altogether. Casting our nets on these waters, we will find only the unprofitable is csught. Verily, I say unto you tis better to milk a snail, then to attempt get sense from those who have none to impart. Therefore, I implore you, come away from this place of great noise and gnashing of eyelids.
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12/1/2013 12:10:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 10:23:12 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 9:50:23 AM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 9:30:42 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 5:19:02 AM, Sleevedagger wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...


This is religion.

That is false religion the true faith is very different.

like what exactly?

Like I have already explained that religion should be..

Should be or is? You seemed certain before.
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12/1/2013 12:44:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 12:10:08 PM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 10:23:12 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 9:50:23 AM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 9:30:42 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 5:19:02 AM, Sleevedagger wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...


This is religion.

That is false religion the true faith is very different.

like what exactly?

Like I have already explained that religion should be..


Should be or is? You seemed certain before.

I still am certain.

It should be as I have described but unfortunately it is a very long way away from it.

I only know one group who get remotely close to it.
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12/1/2013 1:27:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 12:44:52 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 12:10:08 PM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 10:23:12 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 9:50:23 AM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 9:30:42 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 5:19:02 AM, Sleevedagger wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...


This is religion.

That is false religion the true faith is very different.

like what exactly?

Like I have already explained that religion should be..


Should be or is? You seemed certain before.

I still am certain.

It should be as I have described but unfortunately it is a very long way away from it.

I only know one group who get remotely close to it.

"It should be", You doubt this personal religion of yours? And what group would you be referring to?
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12/1/2013 2:12:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 1:27:06 PM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 12:44:52 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 12:10:08 PM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 10:23:12 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 9:50:23 AM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 9:30:42 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 5:19:02 AM, Sleevedagger wrote:
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This is religion.

That is false religion the true faith is very different.

like what exactly?

Like I have already explained that religion should be..


Should be or is? You seemed certain before.

I still am certain.

It should be as I have described but unfortunately it is a very long way away from it.

I only know one group who get remotely close to it.


"It should be", You doubt this personal religion of yours? And what group would you be referring to?

I was under the impression we were discussing religion in general, but no I have no doubt about the faith I support, or that I an as close to the "centre line" of it as it is possible to be at present, and with present knowledge.

I have no doubts whatever what Christianity should be, and I am equally certain of which group is striving to follow that path accurately as they can, whilst the rest go their own way and ignore Christ's teachings..

Nor do I have any
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12/1/2013 3:58:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 2:12:09 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 1:27:06 PM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 12:44:52 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 12:10:08 PM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 10:23:12 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 9:50:23 AM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 9:30:42 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 5:19:02 AM, Sleevedagger wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...


This is religion.

That is false religion the true faith is very different.

like what exactly?

Like I have already explained that religion should be..


Should be or is? You seemed certain before.

I still am certain.

It should be as I have described but unfortunately it is a very long way away from it.

I only know one group who get remotely close to it.


"It should be", You doubt this personal religion of yours? And what group would you be referring to?

I was under the impression we were discussing religion in general, but no I have no doubt about the faith I support, or that I an as close to the "centre line" of it as it is possible to be at present, and with present knowledge.

I have no doubts whatever what Christianity should be, and I am equally certain of which group is striving to follow that path accurately as they can, whilst the rest go their own way and ignore Christ's teachings..

Nor do I have any

You still haven't answered anything substantial so I'm not sure what your writing about. on one hand your saying that Christianity isn't the real faith, but your also saying you're a Christian? Your're also saying that a group of people are "striving" but give no acknowledgement of who these people are.
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12/1/2013 7:24:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 9:29:31 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 4:35:21 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/1/2013 4:30:25 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 4:10:35 AM, bulproof wrote:
It's opiate for the masses. It should be opiate for the masses, otherwise the poor simpletons wouldn't know right from wrong.

Oh it's no opiate, it doesn't allow you to hide from the truth as opiates do.

You just proved my point madman.

How long have you been claiming the armageddon event is just around the corner? LOL?

In God's terms it is.
So you're god now, lmfao
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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12/1/2013 8:42:17 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
That frig you got out of the trash, frost-free? An Energy Star model, perhaps--though unlikely. Get back to me when you have invested in a solar system gone off-grid, with a 12v sundazer frig, kimberly hyper-efficient woodstove, sun oven, rainwater harvesting, system with ceredyne filter; wash your clothes with a james washer, compost your poo and ride a horse to the store--oh wait, you won't need to go to the store above twice per year as yiu will be gowing all your own food!---then I'll be impressed with your living lightly altruism.
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12/2/2013 2:17:27 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 8:42:17 PM, Kassandra wrote:
That frig you got out of the trash, frost-free? An Energy Star model, perhaps--though unlikely. Get back to me when you have invested in a solar system gone off-grid, with a 12v sundazer frig, kimberly hyper-efficient woodstove, sun oven, rainwater harvesting, system with ceredyne filter; wash your clothes with a james washer, compost your poo and ride a horse to the store--oh wait, you won't need to go to the store above twice per year as you will be gowing all your own food!---then I'll be impressed with your living lightly altruism.

It is certainly energy star. I doubt it is more than 5 years old. I have no idea why my near neighbours threw it out when they moved, but I guess they had their reasons.

One can only make fecal material a certain percentage of your compost, and I have insufficient food or green waste to balance that out, though I am doing what I can to compost what is available to me.

I have no land to grow my own food and am not physically fit enough to do such labour, being disabled, though I do have plans for raised growing troughs to enable me to grow at least some of my own, when I can afford to do so, and have someone to help me with what work I cannot manage.

Sometimes life has to be about compromise, and since I live is Social Housing I have little or no control over power sources etc., though I have done what I can to minimise power usage, such as induction hob, Halogen oven. However, as a simple pensioner with only state pension to finance me I am limited in what I can do and even my Induction Hob was second-hand off ebay.

I do however have a solar battery charger, which is a start.

I wish I had the land to use a horse, or secure facilities to tether it outside the shops. I love horses though have never been able to afford to learn to ride.

I do what little I can, and applaud those who can afford to do more an do so.

I wonder how many of the things you would like to see me doing you are doing yourself, or are you just being hypocritical. I can at least say that I am doing what I can to reduce my footprint, as far as I am able, are you?
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12/2/2013 2:19:47 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 7:24:37 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/1/2013 9:29:31 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 4:35:21 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/1/2013 4:30:25 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 4:10:35 AM, bulproof wrote:
It's opiate for the masses. It should be opiate for the masses, otherwise the poor simpletons wouldn't know right from wrong.

Oh it's no opiate, it doesn't allow you to hide from the truth as opiates do.

You just proved my point madman.

How long have you been claiming the armageddon event is just around the corner? LOL?

In God's terms it is.
So you're god now, lmfao

No, I am not God nor have I ever claimed to be, merely one of his servants who he guides in his ways, and allows to see things from his viewpoint. I am nothing more than that, and as Christ said we should I see myself as a "good-for-nothing slave", when I have done what I can.
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12/2/2013 2:23:49 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
MCB: "I love horses though have never been able to afford to learn to ride."

Anna: LMAO
Madcornishbiker: "No, I don't need a dictionary, I know how scripture uses words and that is all I need to now."
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12/2/2013 2:30:07 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/1/2013 3:58:07 PM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 2:12:09 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 1:27:06 PM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 12:44:52 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 12:10:08 PM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 10:23:12 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 9:50:23 AM, Sleevedagger wrote:
At 12/1/2013 9:30:42 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 5:19:02 AM, Sleevedagger wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...


This is religion.

That is false religion the true faith is very different.

like what exactly?

Like I have already explained that religion should be..


Should be or is? You seemed certain before.

I still am certain.

It should be as I have described but unfortunately it is a very long way away from it.

I only know one group who get remotely close to it.


"It should be", You doubt this personal religion of yours? And what group would you be referring to?

I was under the impression we were discussing religion in general, but no I have no doubt about the faith I support, or that I an as close to the "centre line" of it as it is possible to be at present, and with present knowledge.

I have no doubts whatever what Christianity should be, and I am equally certain of which group is striving to follow that path accurately as they can, whilst the rest go their own way and ignore Christ's teachings..

Nor do I have any


You still haven't answered anything substantial so I'm not sure what your writing about. on one hand your saying that Christianity isn't the real faith, but your also saying you're a Christian? Your're also saying that a group of people are "striving" but give no acknowledgement of who these people are.

You seem to be having trouble understanding what I am saying, and if I am not making myself clear enough I apologise for my lack in that direction.

I am saying that what claims to be Christianity isn't in fact Christianity at all.

Hence Ghandi was able, with good reason to say "I love Christianity, but hate Christians". He could see all too clearly how far short of what they should have been they were, and still are.

In other words, whether they realise it or not the vast majority of those who call themselves Christian are behaving as real hypocrites, since they acknowledge Christ as their king and leader and yet ignore the most vital of his teachings.

It is not at all difficult to demonstrate, one only has to watch the news, local national or international.

Even the very fact that so-called Christians support National boundaries for themselves goes completely against what Christ taught.

As someone once put it. "There is no such thing as an African Christian. There are Christians who happen to live in Africa, but when they become Christians they cease to be Africans for all but bureaucratic reasons".

A true Christian Joins Christ's kingdom and put's that above all other national ties. He or she becomes a Citizen of the Heavenly Kingdom, therefore it's rules and principles are always put before those of the laws of man whenever there is a conflict, and will not support any one human Government over any other.
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12/2/2013 2:44:15 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/2/2013 2:19:47 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 7:24:37 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/1/2013 9:29:31 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 4:35:21 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/1/2013 4:30:25 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 12/1/2013 4:10:35 AM, bulproof wrote:
It's opiate for the masses. It should be opiate for the masses, otherwise the poor simpletons wouldn't know right from wrong.

Oh it's no opiate, it doesn't allow you to hide from the truth as opiates do.

You just proved my point madman.

How long have you been claiming the armageddon event is just around the corner? LOL?

In God's terms it is.
So you're god now, lmfao

No, I am not God nor have I ever claimed to be, merely one of his servants who he guides in his ways, and allows to see things from his viewpoint. I am nothing more than that, and as Christ said we should I see myself as a "good-for-nothing slave", when I have done what I can.

So you're not god you are just capable of entering his mind and seeing the universe through his eyes.

You do understand just what a serious wanker you are, don't you?.

Now how long have you been preaching the imminence of armageddon? Answer the question.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin