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Can a perfect God exist?

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12/5/2013 9:38:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/5/2013 9:21:58 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
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What does perfect mean according to a simple minded created human being?
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12/5/2013 9:40:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/5/2013 9:38:52 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:21:58 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Discuss...

What does perfect mean according to a simple minded created human being?

Whatever embodies the most perfection? lol
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12/5/2013 9:41:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/5/2013 9:40:35 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:38:52 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:21:58 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Discuss...

What does perfect mean according to a simple minded created human being?

Whatever embodies the most perfection? lol

If you think you're perfect, than I'm much more perfect than you are.
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12/5/2013 9:42:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/5/2013 9:41:59 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:40:35 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:38:52 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:21:58 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Discuss...

What does perfect mean according to a simple minded created human being?

Whatever embodies the most perfection? lol

If you think you're perfect, than I'm much more perfect than you are.

I don't think I'm perfect, and I definitely don't think you are perfect.
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12/5/2013 9:46:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/5/2013 9:42:58 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:41:59 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:40:35 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:38:52 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:21:58 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Discuss...

What does perfect mean according to a simple minded created human being?

Whatever embodies the most perfection? lol

If you think you're perfect, than I'm much more perfect than you are.

I don't think I'm perfect, and I definitely don't think you are perfect.

Man doesn't understand that our Creator created everything, including all the imperfections that man sees in this world. Man doesn't know that our Creator created this world as a delusion to our true created existence as invisible energy that no man can ever see. Scientists are still looking for evidence of who we are but they will never find it because they are looking at illusions and not the Truth.
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12/5/2013 10:21:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/5/2013 9:46:18 PM, bornofgod wrote:

Scientists are still looking for evidence of who we are

What do you mean by this?
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12/6/2013 2:11:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/5/2013 10:21:31 PM, sigmadog wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:46:18 PM, bornofgod wrote:

Scientists are still looking for evidence of who we are

What do you mean by this?

Scientists are looking at this world as if it were real instead of knowing that we are invisible wavelengths of energy, which is information. Only us saints receive the hidden knowledge of God to understand that we came from an invisible realm. They have known about this since 2,000 years ago but religious people couldn't understand this knowledge so they killed the saints who spoke these things.

I speak for our Creator today and the unbelieving Christians hate the knowledge I share with my believers. Yet, most of my believers listen intently as I tell them about our invisible existence as energy that needs to be processed before we can see, hear, smell, taste, or touch anything, which are learned experiences that processed information gives us.
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12/9/2013 10:09:14 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/9/2013 2:00:28 AM, Morgana42 wrote:
Mankind is not perfect.
Mankind created all gods.
All gods are imperfect.

Indeed.
Turn around, go back.
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12/9/2013 11:30:47 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/5/2013 9:21:58 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
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For a subjective human being it depends on the standard used for measuring perfection. What standard do you use? If it is not objective then how do you know you have reached, or have, or understand the perfect standard?

Peter
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12/9/2013 1:14:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/9/2013 11:30:47 AM, PGA wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:21:58 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Discuss...

For a subjective human being it depends on the standard used for measuring perfection. What standard do you use? If it is not objective then how do you know you have reached, or have, or understand the perfect standard?

Peter

If perfection is just subjective, then you cannot say a perfect being is tri-omni.
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12/9/2013 3:00:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/9/2013 1:14:12 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/9/2013 11:30:47 AM, PGA wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:21:58 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Discuss...

For a subjective human being it depends on the standard used for measuring perfection. What standard do you use? If it is not objective then how do you know you have reached, or have, or understand the perfect standard?

Peter

If perfection is just subjective, then you cannot say a perfect being is tri-omni.

Pardon? Please explain.

Peter
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12/9/2013 3:03:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/9/2013 3:00:53 PM, PGA wrote:
At 12/9/2013 1:14:12 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/9/2013 11:30:47 AM, PGA wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:21:58 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Discuss...

For a subjective human being it depends on the standard used for measuring perfection. What standard do you use? If it is not objective then how do you know you have reached, or have, or understand the perfect standard?

Peter

If perfection is just subjective, then you cannot say a perfect being is tri-omni.

Pardon? Please explain.

Peter

Perfection is either subjective or objective. Acting like it may be subjective helps your case none.

If perfection is subjective, then you cannot say a perfect being would be objectively omniscient, omniscient, and omnibenevolent. That assumes an objective standard of perfection, which contradicts the idea that perfection is subjective.
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12/9/2013 3:23:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/9/2013 3:03:52 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/9/2013 3:00:53 PM, PGA wrote:
At 12/9/2013 1:14:12 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/9/2013 11:30:47 AM, PGA wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:21:58 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Discuss...

For a subjective human being it depends on the standard used for measuring perfection. What standard do you use? If it is not objective then how do you know you have reached, or have, or understand the perfect standard?

Peter

If perfection is just subjective, then you cannot say a perfect being is tri-omni.

Pardon? Please explain.

Peter

Perfection is either subjective or objective. Acting like it may be subjective helps your case none.

If perfection is subjective, then you cannot say a perfect being would be objectively omniscient, omniscient, and omnibenevolent. That assumes an objective standard of perfection, which contradicts the idea that perfection is subjective.

Sounds like satan has a hold of your tongue, just like he makes Christians believe they have special knowledge.

Christians and atheists don't know that satan is only a delusion by observing all the things they see on the retina's of their eyes, which are only illusions and not something that's real. What's real is invisible energy that needs to be processed in order for us to see defined pictures on our retina's in the form of atomic elements, which are just like pixels in a Photoshop computer program.

As long as you believe what you see, you're deceived of who you really are as God's thoughts converted into invisible wavelengths of energy. Vibrations are our true existence within our Creator's mind.
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12/11/2013 1:36:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/9/2013 3:03:52 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/9/2013 3:00:53 PM, PGA wrote:
At 12/9/2013 1:14:12 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 12/9/2013 11:30:47 AM, PGA wrote:
At 12/5/2013 9:21:58 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Discuss...

For a subjective human being it depends on the standard used for measuring perfection. What standard do you use? If it is not objective then how do you know you have reached, or have, or understand the perfect standard?

Peter

If perfection is just subjective, then you cannot say a perfect being is tri-omni.

Pardon? Please explain.

Peter

Perfection is either subjective or objective. Acting like it may be subjective helps your case none.

If perfection is subjective, then you cannot say a perfect being would be objectively omniscient, omniscient, and omnibenevolent. That assumes an objective standard of perfection, which contradicts the idea that perfection is subjective.

Although man is subjective, contingent and not perfect we can still understand that there is a perfect, eternal, unchanging being, God, who is the objective being through whom we glimpse perfection from. He is objective because He is all knowing. He created all things and sustains all things, therefore His knowledge is objective and true. Since He holds no false beliefs all true beliefs can be found in Him.

So why would I take your word, your knowledge, your worldview, over His?

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12/11/2013 3:09:49 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/9/2013 3:23:41 PM, bornofgod wrote:
Sounds like satan has a hold of your tongue, . . . .
Pastor Tracy soon proved your tongue is a lying tongue & hence you are an agent of your Satan & you are also a Devil (False accuser).
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12/11/2013 2:37:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/11/2013 3:09:49 AM, Composer wrote:
At 12/9/2013 3:23:41 PM, bornofgod wrote:
Sounds like satan has a hold of your tongue, . . . .
Pastor Tracy soon proved your tongue is a lying tongue & hence you are an agent of your Satan & you are also a Devil (False accuser).

You can keep using Pastor Tracy as an excuse not to listen to me. Christians use their false god, Jesus, to keep them from listening to me so what's the difference?