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Does good define god or god define good?

Kasparov
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12/21/2013 8:43:47 PM
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Is god defining morality for us or is morality already set and god is merely telling us? For example, Homosexuality. Could god have decreed homosexuality is ok once you provide offspring with a member of the opposite sex or not?
bulproof
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12/22/2013 7:18:35 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/22/2013 7:00:55 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
God is good and so every capability he has given us is good in some capacity.

I'm sure the homosexual christians will be pleased to hear that.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
birdlandmemories
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12/22/2013 7:51:18 AM
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At 12/22/2013 7:18:35 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/22/2013 7:00:55 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
God is good and so every capability he has given us is good in some capacity.

I'm sure the homosexual christians will be pleased to hear that.

And as we speak, they're getting their "rights" too.
Ashton
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12/22/2013 8:08:11 AM
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At 12/22/2013 7:51:18 AM, birdlandmemories wrote:
At 12/22/2013 7:18:35 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/22/2013 7:00:55 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
God is good and so every capability he has given us is good in some capacity.

I'm sure the homosexual christians will be pleased to hear that.

And as we speak, they're getting their "rights" too.
Where's that?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
birdlandmemories
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12/22/2013 8:15:38 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/22/2013 8:08:11 AM, bulproof wrote:
Where's that?

Ok, I'm mainly talking about the United State view, as every month, a new state allows gay marriage. Just this week, Utah lifted the ban. If you are talking about from a world perspective, then I would agree with you for now. But the gay rights movement has made significant progress.
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12/22/2013 8:17:53 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/22/2013 8:15:38 AM, birdlandmemories wrote:
At 12/22/2013 8:08:11 AM, bulproof wrote:
Where's that?

Ok, I'm mainly talking about the United State view, as every month, a new state allows gay marriage. Just this week, Utah lifted the ban. If you are talking about from a world perspective, then I would agree with you for now. But the gay rights movement has made significant progress.
My mistake I thought perhaps your comment was sarcasm. I agree with your remarks and believe it to be a good thing.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
Installgentoo
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12/22/2013 12:38:52 PM
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At 12/22/2013 7:18:35 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/22/2013 7:00:55 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
God is good and so every capability he has given us is good in some capacity.

I'm sure the homosexual christians will be pleased to hear that.

Not all branches of Christianity hate homosexuality.
popculturepooka
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12/22/2013 12:52:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/22/2013 8:15:38 AM, birdlandmemories wrote:
At 12/22/2013 8:08:11 AM, bulproof wrote:
Where's that?

Ok, I'm mainly talking about the United State view, as every month, a new state allows gay marriage. Just this week, Utah lifted the ban. If you are talking about from a world perspective, then I would agree with you for now. But the gay rights movement has made significant progress.

Good.
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Kasparov
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12/22/2013 1:38:31 PM
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At 12/22/2013 7:00:55 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
God is good and so every capability he has given us is good in some capacity.

Is god the author of morality?
Installgentoo
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12/22/2013 1:57:29 PM
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At 12/22/2013 1:38:31 PM, Kasparov wrote:
At 12/22/2013 7:00:55 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
God is good and so every capability he has given us is good in some capacity.

Is god the author of morality?

Yes.
Rational_Thinker9119
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12/22/2013 1:59:43 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/22/2013 1:38:31 PM, Kasparov wrote:
At 12/22/2013 7:00:55 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
God is good and so every capability he has given us is good in some capacity.

Is god the author of morality?

I would say that human nature is the author of morality (and immorality).
SemperVI
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12/22/2013 2:06:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/22/2013 1:38:31 PM, Kasparov wrote:
At 12/22/2013 7:00:55 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
God is good and so every capability he has given us is good in some capacity.

Is god the author of morality?

To many theists, particularly of abrahamic theologies, this is true because because salvation is found in what this culture deems is "good" morals. However; To the Gnostic, commandments and rules are not salvific; they are not substantially conducive to salvation. Rules of conduct may serve numerous ends, including the structuring of an ordered and peaceful society, and the maintenance of harmonious relations within social groups. Rules, however, are not relevant to salvation; that is brought about only by Gnosis. Morality therefore needs to be viewed primarily in temporal and secular terms; it is ever subject to changes and modifications in accordance with the spiritual development of the individual.
PGA
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12/27/2013 9:20:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/21/2013 8:43:47 PM, Kasparov wrote:
Is god defining morality for us or is morality already set and god is merely telling us? For example, Homosexuality. Could god have decreed homosexuality is ok once you provide offspring with a member of the opposite sex or not?

Please could you go back a step further and define what you mean by "good"?

Does good define god or god define good?

Peter