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The folly in christmas

Cortney.ewing86
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12/28/2013 12:59:16 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Christmas is the biggest holiday of the year and is suppose to be the celebration of jesus birth first no one knows his birthday and he says nothing about celebrating his bithday in the bible. When reading jeremiah 10:1-15 he says not to do christmas (well if you have common sense) you'll understand him then if you do your history there is a pagan god named mithera (god of sun) born on dec 25th and some celebrated it as what we call christmas now days celebrating christmas is worshipping another God.

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Cortney.ewing86
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12/28/2013 10:35:17 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Did you read jeremiah 10:1-15?
Did you research mithra?
If not do that before saying anything you sound not so bright.
Installgentoo
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12/28/2013 11:58:31 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/28/2013 10:35:17 AM, Cortney.ewing86 wrote:
Did you read jeremiah 10:1-15?

Jeremiah is the old testament, why would it say anything about Jesus?

Did you research mithra?

Who cares if one God's birth-date is similar to another God's birthdate? Mithra isn't remotely similar to Jesus in other aspects, so it's hardly like the early Christians made a boob and celebrated Jesus' birthday on Mithra's birthday by accident.
Installgentoo
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12/28/2013 12:00:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Actually my above post is wrong. Jesus and Mithra were not born on the same date. Mithra was, by all accounts, born in September or October.
EndarkenedRationalist
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12/28/2013 12:20:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
You realise that Jesus was most likely born in summer? Christmas occurs on the 25th of December because Christianity was a baby religion trying to appeal to the masses in order to grow, and as the pagans already had a massive holiday on the 25th celebrating the solstice and the death/renewal of Earth, Christians stole it and replaced it with Christmas.
Installgentoo
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12/28/2013 12:37:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/28/2013 12:20:30 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
You realise that Jesus was most likely born in summer?

What evidence do you have for that conclusion?
Cortney.ewing86
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12/28/2013 1:18:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/28/2013 11:58:31 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 12/28/2013 10:35:17 AM, Cortney.ewing86 wrote:
Did you read jeremiah 10:1-15?

Jeremiah is the old testament, why would it say anything about Jesus?

Did you research mithra?

Who cares if one God's birth-date is similar to another God's birthdate? Mithra isn't remotely similar to Jesus in other aspects, so it's hardly like the early Christians made a boob and celebrated Jesus' birthday on Mithra's birthday by accident.

First Jer. Is referring to the pagan tradition of yuletide/winter solstice aka today as Christmas. The holiday predates the birth of Christ being that it is irrelevant to his actual birth. In all actuality mithra was born on dec. 25th born of a virgin had 12 disciples and his symbol is the lamb because of the similarities it was easy for rome to incorporate the doctrine of mithra onto the christian calendar if you'd like i can provide references to this or you can google mithras birthday online and to respond to one more point the book of jer. As well as the other prophetic books are used as tools for documenting the past as well as mapping out the future.

Thank you
Installgentoo
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12/28/2013 1:28:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/28/2013 1:14:54 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 12/28/2013 12:37:09 PM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 12/28/2013 12:20:30 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
You realise that Jesus was most likely born in summer?

What evidence do you have for that conclusion?

http://www.ucg.org...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

http://www.cgg.org...

Huh, interesting. I always thouht of it as being spring-time.
srehtiw
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12/28/2013 3:56:27 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
It's pretty simple really. Imaging you run ITV (If you don't know what ITV is it is a British TV Channel) and you have to choose what time to show the X factor. On the same day the BBC is showing Strictly come dancing. Both shows and popular so what is the best thing to do? You show the X factor at the same time and Strictly come dancing to make viewers choose. This means that even though your show loses a few viewers you also steal some viewers from strictly come dancing, therefore making them weaker and so you get better ratings. It's the same principle.
Cortney.ewing86
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12/28/2013 4:31:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/28/2013 3:56:27 PM, srehtiw wrote:
It's pretty simple really. Imaging you run ITV (If you don't know what ITV is it is a British TV Channel) and you have to choose what time to show the X factor. On the same day the BBC is showing Strictly come dancing. Both shows and popular so what is the best thing to do? You show the X factor at the same time and Strictly come dancing to make viewers choose. This means that even though your show loses a few viewers you also steal some viewers from strictly come dancing, therefore making them weaker and so you get better ratings. It's the same principle.

Can you bring more of a clear analogy to this??
srehtiw
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12/28/2013 4:36:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/28/2013 4:31:15 PM, Cortney.ewing86 wrote:
At 12/28/2013 3:56:27 PM, srehtiw wrote:
It's pretty simple really. Imaging you run ITV (If you don't know what ITV is it is a British TV Channel) and you have to choose what time to show the X factor. On the same day the BBC is showing Strictly come dancing. Both shows and popular so what is the best thing to do? You show the X factor at the same time and Strictly come dancing to make viewers choose. This means that even though your show loses a few viewers you also steal some viewers from strictly come dancing, therefore making them weaker and so you get better ratings. It's the same principle.

Can you bring more of a clear analogy to this??

Basically no one knows when Jesus's birthday was and no one really cares. So since it didn't really matter when they put the holiday they decided to put it on a different gods special day. This meant people had to choose between Christmas and the other Gods day. As Christmas is a pretty awesome holiday lots of people chose Christmas, meaning that not only did Christianity grow stronger the other religion got weaker, meaning Christianity was in an even better position.