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I See God in the Beauty of Nature

RhysJaxson
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1/1/2014 8:27:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Whenever someone says this, they talk about orchids and frozen waterfalls. I've never seen somebody use the ant-brain-zombie fungus as an example

http://media.treehugger.com...

or a paralyzed cockroach being slowly eaten from the inside out by an emerald wasp larvae

http://www.wildphotos.org.uk...

I see evolution and competition for survival, not God, in nature.
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GodChoosesLife
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1/1/2014 8:34:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Very interesting post here...
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1/1/2014 8:51:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I see god in the human soul, and we are the apex of nature. Of course, I'm agnostic, but still. It's easy to be a monster, sure. Doesn't mean you should be, though.
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1/1/2014 8:55:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Competition for survival? Explain it away all you want - in the end it's just something beautiful.
RhysJaxson
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1/1/2014 9:04:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/1/2014 8:55:31 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
Competition for survival? Explain it away all you want - in the end it's just something beautiful.

There is beauty in nature as well, but it's not reasonable to ignore the ugly parts of nature and use the beautiful parts as evidence for God.

Cooperation and empathy are beneficial traits for a species to survive.
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AnDoctuir
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1/1/2014 9:05:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/1/2014 9:04:00 PM, RhysJaxson wrote:
At 1/1/2014 8:55:31 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
Competition for survival? Explain it away all you want - in the end it's just something beautiful.

There is beauty in nature as well, but it's not reasonable to ignore the ugly parts of nature and use the beautiful parts as evidence for God.

Cooperation and empathy are beneficial traits for a species to survive.

Someone hasn't noticed that "dog" is "god" backwards =)
AnDoctuir
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1/1/2014 9:06:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
It's not reasonable to take the ugly parts as the definers of existence. We're living in infinity bro, nobody knows.
Installgentoo
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1/2/2014 3:56:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/1/2014 8:27:41 PM, RhysJaxson wrote:
Whenever someone says this, they talk about orchids and frozen waterfalls. I've never seen somebody use the ant-brain-zombie fungus as an example

http://media.treehugger.com...

or a paralyzed cockroach being slowly eaten from the inside out by an emerald wasp larvae

http://www.wildphotos.org.uk...

When people say that they're usually really talking about the laws of nature that allow this planet to produce all it's wonderful complex lifeforms, not individual beautiful things. And really they are a sign of a great intelligence behind the cosmos.
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1/2/2014 4:43:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Actually, in my experience they are mostly talking about the nice flowers and trees. What you are talking about is the fine-tuning argument.
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1/3/2014 6:44:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/2/2014 4:43:40 PM, Fox-McCloud wrote:
Actually, in my experience they are mostly talking about the nice flowers and trees. What you are talking about is the fine-tuning argument.

Well maybe I heard more in-depth arguments because I went to a religious school
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1/3/2014 7:56:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/1/2014 8:27:41 PM, RhysJaxson wrote:
Whenever someone says this, they talk about orchids and frozen waterfalls. I've never seen somebody use the ant-brain-zombie fungus as an example

http://media.treehugger.com...

or a paralyzed cockroach being slowly eaten from the inside out by an emerald wasp larvae

http://www.wildphotos.org.uk...

I see evolution and competition for survival, not God, in nature.

It would seem to me that God would lie in the larger picture - in the harmony of ALL the things which make nature such a balanced and wonderful thing. I personally am fascinated by the life-cycles of many parasites, which can be astonishingly complex. I saw a documentary a few weeks ago called The Monster Within Me, and I plan to watch it again. You should read some stuff about the nature of angels - how they are supposedly soulless and therefore very machine-like. Man is supposed to be the only creation of God that has a soul, and thus has free-will, which makes him a co-creator. The animals supposedly just follow their instincts (or programming).