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Atheism and anti-theism are not the same

Skepticalone
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1/27/2014 12:28:38 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
It seems many people tend to get atheism and anti-theism confused. It is unfair to assume all atheist share the view of anti-theism. Anti-theists like Hitchens could technically, but not necessarily, be atheists, but they also feel religion is bad. After hearing some of the rhetoric and defensive posturing of a general majority of theists, I can only assume confusion is part of the problem.
Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods
Anti-theist: A person who holds the view that organized religion when considered throughout the centuries has been a destructive force in society.
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1/28/2014 12:12:49 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/27/2014 12:28:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
It seems many people tend to get atheism and anti-theism confused. It is unfair to assume all atheist share the view of anti-theism. Anti-theists like Hitchens could technically, but not necessarily, be atheists, but they also feel religion is bad. After hearing some of the rhetoric and defensive posturing of a general majority of theists, I can only assume confusion is part of the problem.
Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods
Anti-theist: A person who holds the view that organized religion when considered throughout the centuries has been a destructive force in society.

Then most American atheists are anti-theists. And almost 98% of the atheists on this forum are anti-theists. Hmmm, the term anti-theist sounds nicer than militant atheist.
Romanii
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1/28/2014 1:39:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/27/2014 12:28:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
It seems many people tend to get atheism and anti-theism confused. It is unfair to assume all atheist share the view of anti-theism. Anti-theists like Hitchens could technically, but not necessarily, be atheists, but they also feel religion is bad. After hearing some of the rhetoric and defensive posturing of a general majority of theists, I can only assume confusion is part of the problem.
Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods
Anti-theist: A person who holds the view that organized religion when considered throughout the centuries has been a destructive force in society.

I realize that they are two different terms. However, almost all the atheists I know are anti-theists, so after a while, I start assuming that they go hand in hand.
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1/28/2014 3:04:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/28/2014 1:39:04 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 1/27/2014 12:28:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
It seems many people tend to get atheism and anti-theism confused. It is unfair to assume all atheist share the view of anti-theism. Anti-theists like Hitchens could technically, but not necessarily, be atheists, but they also feel religion is bad. After hearing some of the rhetoric and defensive posturing of a general majority of theists, I can only assume confusion is part of the problem.
Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods
Anti-theist: A person who holds the view that organized religion when considered throughout the centuries has been a destructive force in society.

I realize that they are two different terms. However, almost all the atheists I know are anti-theists, so after a while, I start assuming that they go hand in hand.

Just because atheists disagree with theists over the significance of religion onpersonal life does not mean they think all religion should go away because it poisons everything. That would definitely be exclusively an anti-theist point of view.
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1/28/2014 4:29:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/28/2014 3:04:53 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/28/2014 1:39:04 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 1/27/2014 12:28:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
It seems many people tend to get atheism and anti-theism confused. It is unfair to assume all atheist share the view of anti-theism. Anti-theists like Hitchens could technically, but not necessarily, be atheists, but they also feel religion is bad. After hearing some of the rhetoric and defensive posturing of a general majority of theists, I can only assume confusion is part of the problem.
Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods
Anti-theist: A person who holds the view that organized religion when considered throughout the centuries has been a destructive force in society.

I realize that they are two different terms. However, almost all the atheists I know are anti-theists, so after a while, I start assuming that they go hand in hand.

Just because atheists disagree with theists over the significance of religion onpersonal life does not mean they think all religion should go away because it poisons everything. That would definitely be exclusively an anti-theist point of view.

A LOT of the atheists I know believe religion is a "poisonous force".
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1/28/2014 4:34:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/28/2014 4:29:14 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 1/28/2014 3:04:53 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/28/2014 1:39:04 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 1/27/2014 12:28:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
It seems many people tend to get atheism and anti-theism confused. It is unfair to assume all atheist share the view of anti-theism. Anti-theists like Hitchens could technically, but not necessarily, be atheists, but they also feel religion is bad. After hearing some of the rhetoric and defensive posturing of a general majority of theists, I can only assume confusion is part of the problem.
Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods
Anti-theist: A person who holds the view that organized religion when considered throughout the centuries has been a destructive force in society.

I realize that they are two different terms. However, almost all the atheists I know are anti-theists, so after a while, I start assuming that they go hand in hand.

Just because atheists disagree with theists over the significance of religion onpersonal life does not mean they think all religion should go away because it poisons everything. That would definitely be exclusively an anti-theist point of view.

A LOT of the atheists I know believe religion is a "poisonous force".

Not to be a jerk, but I can point out that a LOT of the theists I know believe religion based on no rational grounds. Would it be okay, then for me to say that "after a while, I start assuming that they go hand in hand"?
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1/28/2014 4:43:29 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/28/2014 4:29:14 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 1/28/2014 3:04:53 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/28/2014 1:39:04 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 1/27/2014 12:28:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
It seems many people tend to get atheism and anti-theism confused. It is unfair to assume all atheist share the view of anti-theism. Anti-theists like Hitchens could technically, but not necessarily, be atheists, but they also feel religion is bad. After hearing some of the rhetoric and defensive posturing of a general majority of theists, I can only assume confusion is part of the problem.
Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods
Anti-theist: A person who holds the view that organized religion when considered throughout the centuries has been a destructive force in society.

I realize that they are two different terms. However, almost all the atheists I know are anti-theists, so after a while, I start assuming that they go hand in hand.

Just because atheists disagree with theists over the significance of religion onpersonal life does not mean they think all religion should go away because it poisons everything. That would definitely be exclusively an anti-theist point of view.

A LOT of the atheists I know believe religion is a "poisonous force".

The atheist just think you're deluded. All of the anti-theists you know believe religion is a poisonous force, and you're deluded.
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What the hell kind of coked up sideshow has this thread turned into. - Casten
Romanii
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1/28/2014 5:45:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/28/2014 4:34:28 PM, bladerunner060 wrote:
At 1/28/2014 4:29:14 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 1/28/2014 3:04:53 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/28/2014 1:39:04 PM, Romanii wrote:
At 1/27/2014 12:28:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
It seems many people tend to get atheism and anti-theism confused. It is unfair to assume all atheist share the view of anti-theism. Anti-theists like Hitchens could technically, but not necessarily, be atheists, but they also feel religion is bad. After hearing some of the rhetoric and defensive posturing of a general majority of theists, I can only assume confusion is part of the problem.
Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods
Anti-theist: A person who holds the view that organized religion when considered throughout the centuries has been a destructive force in society.

I realize that they are two different terms. However, almost all the atheists I know are anti-theists, so after a while, I start assuming that they go hand in hand.

Just because atheists disagree with theists over the significance of religion onpersonal life does not mean they think all religion should go away because it poisons everything. That would definitely be exclusively an anti-theist point of view.

A LOT of the atheists I know believe religion is a "poisonous force".

Not to be a jerk, but I can point out that a LOT of the theists I know believe religion based on no rational grounds. Would it be okay, then for me to say that "after a while, I start assuming that they go hand in hand"?

Fine, you win.