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Kent Hovind's doctoral dissertation.

Eitan_Zohar
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3/21/2014 3:49:24 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
This is the doctoral dissertation of Kent Hovind, a creation evangelist and convicted tax fraudster from 'Patriot Bible University.' My favorite parts are where he dismisses Origen, St. Augustine, and Thomas Aquinas as evolutionists: http://wlstorage.net...

This is an important paper. This is how they think. This is what they want our kids to learn.
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3/21/2014 10:44:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/21/2014 10:27:37 PM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
Why is this not interesting?

It's played itself out. Opinions are cast in stone. All that's left is to consider the damage which could be wrought by America's religious bigotry and hate toward those who won't join the flock.
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3/21/2014 10:45:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I'd say it's still worth reading for the hilarity.
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3/22/2014 10:49:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/21/2014 10:44:31 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 3/21/2014 10:27:37 PM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
Why is this not interesting?

It's played itself out. Opinions are cast in stone. All that's left is to consider the damage which could be wrought by America's religious bigotry and hate toward those who won't join the flock.

How is America bigotted to those who aren't Christian? I have visibly Muslim neighbours who lived in America for a little while and they couldn't have been treated better.

A lot of the religious bigotry attached to Americans comes from people lying to opinion polls because Americans have this queer idea that being religious- in particular Christian- makes them good people.
RoderickSpode
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3/22/2014 11:57:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/22/2014 10:49:18 PM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 3/21/2014 10:44:31 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 3/21/2014 10:27:37 PM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
Why is this not interesting?

It's played itself out. Opinions are cast in stone. All that's left is to consider the damage which could be wrought by America's religious bigotry and hate toward those who won't join the flock.

How is America bigotted to those who aren't Christian? I have visibly Muslim neighbours who lived in America for a little while and they couldn't have been treated better.

A lot of the religious bigotry attached to Americans comes from people lying to opinion polls because Americans have this queer idea that being religious- in particular Christian- makes them good people.
Good point!

What people overlook is that the majority of the founding fathers were Christian, and could have put a halt to any belief outside of the Christian faith. They used the dictatorial religious laws of Europe as a model of what-not-to-be/become. To this day we could have ended up as a Christian religious State mandating Christianity as a religious belief had not this been the case.

Initially they were not happy about deism, but they realized that if they are going to do this Freedom Of Religion thing right, they could not prohibit the deistic view of a supreme creator, allah, gods of hinduism, and even Native American spiritual beliefs. Atheism was almost unheard of, but eventually the realization that even non-belief of a creator needed to be protected.

The idea of religious bigotry in America from atheist activists is amusing because they have to revert back to historical European theocracy by default. And they speak of both an alleged intolerance of Muslims (like when Christians address terrorism), and then some like Richard Dawkins turn on the Muslims when a terrorist act is committed, and relating Christianity (or fundamentalist/evangelical Christianity) to Islamic terrorism.
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3/23/2014 12:12:02 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/22/2014 11:57:00 PM, RoderickSpode wrote:
At 3/22/2014 10:49:18 PM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 3/21/2014 10:44:31 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 3/21/2014 10:27:37 PM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
Why is this not interesting?

It's played itself out. Opinions are cast in stone. All that's left is to consider the damage which could be wrought by America's religious bigotry and hate toward those who won't join the flock.

How is America bigotted to those who aren't Christian? I have visibly Muslim neighbours who lived in America for a little while and they couldn't have been treated better.

A lot of the religious bigotry attached to Americans comes from people lying to opinion polls because Americans have this queer idea that being religious- in particular Christian- makes them good people.
Good point!

What people overlook is that the majority of the founding fathers were Christian, and could have put a halt to any belief outside of the Christian faith. They used the dictatorial religious laws of Europe as a model of what-not-to-be/become. To this day we could have ended up as a Christian religious State mandating Christianity as a religious belief had not this been the case.

Initially they were not happy about deism, but they realized that if they are going to do this Freedom Of Religion thing right, they could not prohibit the deistic view of a supreme creator, allah, gods of hinduism, and even Native American spiritual beliefs. Atheism was almost unheard of, but eventually the realization that even non-belief of a creator needed to be protected.

The idea of religious bigotry in America from atheist activists is amusing because they have to revert back to historical European theocracy by default. And they speak of both an alleged intolerance of Muslims (like when Christians address terrorism), and then some like Richard Dawkins turn on the Muslims when a terrorist act is committed, and relating Christianity (or fundamentalist/evangelical Christianity) to Islamic terrorism.

Calling the founding fathers of America Christians is optimistic at best.
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3/23/2014 12:23:05 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/23/2014 12:12:02 AM, Telka187 wrote:
At 3/22/2014 11:57:00 PM, RoderickSpode wrote:
At 3/22/2014 10:49:18 PM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 3/21/2014 10:44:31 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 3/21/2014 10:27:37 PM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
Why is this not interesting?

It's played itself out. Opinions are cast in stone. All that's left is to consider the damage which could be wrought by America's religious bigotry and hate toward those who won't join the flock.

How is America bigotted to those who aren't Christian? I have visibly Muslim neighbours who lived in America for a little while and they couldn't have been treated better.

A lot of the religious bigotry attached to Americans comes from people lying to opinion polls because Americans have this queer idea that being religious- in particular Christian- makes them good people.
Good point!

What people overlook is that the majority of the founding fathers were Christian, and could have put a halt to any belief outside of the Christian faith. They used the dictatorial religious laws of Europe as a model of what-not-to-be/become. To this day we could have ended up as a Christian religious State mandating Christianity as a religious belief had not this been the case.

Initially they were not happy about deism, but they realized that if they are going to do this Freedom Of Religion thing right, they could not prohibit the deistic view of a supreme creator, allah, gods of hinduism, and even Native American spiritual beliefs. Atheism was almost unheard of, but eventually the realization that even non-belief of a creator needed to be protected.

The idea of religious bigotry in America from atheist activists is amusing because they have to revert back to historical European theocracy by default. And they speak of both an alleged intolerance of Muslims (like when Christians address terrorism), and then some like Richard Dawkins turn on the Muslims when a terrorist act is committed, and relating Christianity (or fundamentalist/evangelical Christianity) to Islamic terrorism.


Calling the founding fathers of America Christians is optimistic at best.

Agreed.
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3/23/2014 3:03:51 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/21/2014 10:27:37 PM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
Why is this not interesting?

I managed to read the first 6 pages, I couldn't find a sharp razor blade for my wrists so discontinued.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
RoderickSpode
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3/23/2014 3:44:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/23/2014 12:12:02 AM, Telka187 wrote:
At 3/22/2014 11:57:00 PM, RoderickSpode wrote:
At 3/22/2014 10:49:18 PM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 3/21/2014 10:44:31 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 3/21/2014 10:27:37 PM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
Why is this not interesting?

It's played itself out. Opinions are cast in stone. All that's left is to consider the damage which could be wrought by America's religious bigotry and hate toward those who won't join the flock.

How is America bigotted to those who aren't Christian? I have visibly Muslim neighbours who lived in America for a little while and they couldn't have been treated better.

A lot of the religious bigotry attached to Americans comes from people lying to opinion polls because Americans have this queer idea that being religious- in particular Christian- makes them good people.
Good point!

What people overlook is that the majority of the founding fathers were Christian, and could have put a halt to any belief outside of the Christian faith. They used the dictatorial religious laws of Europe as a model of what-not-to-be/become. To this day we could have ended up as a Christian religious State mandating Christianity as a religious belief had not this been the case.

Initially they were not happy about deism, but they realized that if they are going to do this Freedom Of Religion thing right, they could not prohibit the deistic view of a supreme creator, allah, gods of hinduism, and even Native American spiritual beliefs. Atheism was almost unheard of, but eventually the realization that even non-belief of a creator needed to be protected.

The idea of religious bigotry in America from atheist activists is amusing because they have to revert back to historical European theocracy by default. And they speak of both an alleged intolerance of Muslims (like when Christians address terrorism), and then some like Richard Dawkins turn on the Muslims when a terrorist act is committed, and relating Christianity (or fundamentalist/evangelical Christianity) to Islamic terrorism.


Calling the founding fathers of America Christians is optimistic at best.
If by optimistic you are implying that the founding fathers being Christian is a positive, I think you can relinquish any concern in that area. I would be interested in why you think that though.