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4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?
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4/5/2014 5:22:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

They couldnt. Its why we dont prosecute babies or children, because they lack the understanding of good and evil and therefore it is wrong for us to punish them.
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4/5/2014 5:47:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/5/2014 5:22:50 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

They couldnt. Its why we dont prosecute babies or children, because they lack the understanding of good and evil and therefore it is wrong for us to punish them.

God doesn't merely punish them, yet sends them and all their billions of descendants to a place "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.", to suffer, in anguish, throughout eternity.
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4/5/2014 11:29:08 PM
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At 4/5/2014 5:47:36 PM, s-anthony wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:22:50 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

They couldnt. Its why we dont prosecute babies or children, because they lack the understanding of good and evil and therefore it is wrong for us to punish them.

God doesn't merely punish them, yet sends them and all their billions of descendants to a place "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.", to suffer, in anguish, throughout eternity.

Well, that is technically still a punishment, is it not.
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4/5/2014 11:35:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/5/2014 11:29:08 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:47:36 PM, s-anthony wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:22:50 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

They couldnt. Its why we dont prosecute babies or children, because they lack the understanding of good and evil and therefore it is wrong for us to punish them.

God doesn't merely punish them, yet sends them and all their billions of descendants to a place "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.", to suffer, in anguish, throughout eternity.

Well, that is technically still a punishment, is it not.

for some. there are those that would prefer that sort of treatment.
http://en.wikipedia.org...
: At 4/29/2014 3:14:36 AM, annanicole wrote:

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: I'll be happy to concede the raping of virgin girls, if you can find it somewhere.
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4/5/2014 11:43:51 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/5/2014 11:29:08 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:47:36 PM, s-anthony wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:22:50 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

They couldnt. Its why we dont prosecute babies or children, because they lack the understanding of good and evil and therefore it is wrong for us to punish them.

God doesn't merely punish them, yet sends them and all their billions of descendants to a place "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.", to suffer, in anguish, throughout eternity.

Well, that is technically still a punishment, is it not.

Personally, I believe it's nonsensical, in so many ways: a physical flame's burning a metaphysical being (a contradiction, in terms) and eternal torment (eventually, you would habituate to it, and it would become meaningless.)
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4/6/2014 6:09:43 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

I think they didn"t have to know more than that it will lead to death, if they eat the fruit. If they didn"t understand what it means, they could have asked directly from God, even after the serpent came to tempt them. I don"t see why it would have to be said that it is wrong. Maybe it was not even wrong, just something that has consequences that some don"t like.
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4/6/2014 6:18:48 AM
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At 4/6/2014 6:09:43 AM, 12_13 wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

I think they didn"t have to know more than that it will lead to death, if they eat the fruit. If they didn"t understand what it means, they could have asked directly from God, even after the serpent came to tempt them. I don"t see why it would have to be said that it is wrong. Maybe it was not even wrong, just something that has consequences that some don"t like.
I think that the tree was a raspberry cane that produced pineapples that weren't ripe and so couldn't have been eaten in the first place. Therefore it was a fitup.
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4/6/2014 8:28:19 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/6/2014 6:09:43 AM, 12_13 wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

I think they didn"t have to know more than that it will lead to death, if they eat the fruit. If they didn"t understand what it means, they could have asked directly from God, even after the serpent came to tempt them. I don"t see why it would have to be said that it is wrong. Maybe it was not even wrong, just something that has consequences that some don"t like.

If it weren't wrong, then, why have billions of people since then suffered the torments of eternal damnation? And, why does the Book of Romans say, "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"? Thirdly, why does God curse Adam and Eve, for eating the forbidden fruit?
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4/6/2014 10:14:01 AM
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At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

I don't think you're reading from the same Bible as the rest of us.
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4/6/2014 10:25:04 AM
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At 4/6/2014 10:14:01 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

I don't think you're reading from the same Bible as the rest of us.

So, in the bible you're reading, Adam and Eve knew that which good and evil were, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil?
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4/6/2014 11:22:15 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/6/2014 6:09:43 AM, 12_13 wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

I think they didn"t have to know more than that it will lead to death,
and what is evil or wrong about death?

If they didn"t understand what it means, they could have asked directly from God, even after the serpent came to tempt them
that doesn't make sense..because
knowing you don't understand implies knowledge about something.
the basis of KNOWING good and evil is contingent on experience. thusly, having no prior experience of understanding what a boundary was "thou shall not" the quest to understand what the boundary would then imply they knew what a boundary was..

the story doesn't add up.
: At 4/29/2014 3:14:36 AM, annanicole wrote:

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: I'll be happy to concede the raping of virgin girls, if you can find it somewhere.
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4/6/2014 11:41:28 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/6/2014 10:25:04 AM, s-anthony wrote:

A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

Knowing good and evil is not the same as knowing right from wrong.
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4/6/2014 11:50:46 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/6/2014 11:41:28 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 4/6/2014 10:25:04 AM, s-anthony wrote:

A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

Knowing good and evil is not the same as knowing right from wrong.

Nonsense! That swine of a creator framed Adam and Eve and you know it. And besides, what kind of a suck fukk would purposely set up innocent people anyway for the pleasure of a laugh out of it?
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4/6/2014 11:58:42 AM
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At 4/6/2014 11:50:46 AM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/6/2014 11:41:28 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 4/6/2014 10:25:04 AM, s-anthony wrote:

A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

Knowing good and evil is not the same as knowing right from wrong.

Nonsense! That swine of a creator framed Adam and Eve and you know it. And besides, what kind of a suck fukk would purposely set up innocent people anyway for the pleasure of a laugh out of it?
That is not what happened. For starters the whole thing is a metaphor so first you need to start looking at it from a different angle to understand how it actually was.
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4/6/2014 12:16:52 PM
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At 4/6/2014 11:58:42 AM, srehtiw wrote:
At 4/6/2014 11:50:46 AM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/6/2014 11:41:28 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 4/6/2014 10:25:04 AM, s-anthony wrote:

A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

Knowing good and evil is not the same as knowing right from wrong.

Nonsense! That swine of a creator framed Adam and Eve and you know it. And besides, what kind of a suck fukk would purposely set up innocent people anyway for the pleasure of a laugh out of it?
That is not what happened. For starters the whole thing is a metaphor so first you need to start looking at it from a different angle to understand how it actually was.

We may have reached agreement here! It's all the 'God metaphor'. None of it is 'literally' true and so therefore it's all a delusion. Or in fact, Christians have been deluded into believing in the bible. We can call it the "God Delusion".

It just has to be true that modern Christians such as you, neutral, and their ilk have helped to bring Christian belief around to agreement in nearly all principles with Richard Dawkins. That has been done in a lame attempt to remain credible in a modern world that must adhere to scientific facts.

The problem that will inevitably arise out of doing that is that Christians won't have any attraction to hold onto. Their personal god who furnishes the 'next' life for them will be gone in favour of a metaphorical god. The trap has been sprung.
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4/6/2014 12:17:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/6/2014 11:41:28 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 4/6/2014 10:25:04 AM, s-anthony wrote:

A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

: Knowing good and evil is not the same as knowing right from wrong.

ok, well then offer something...just making an objection doesn't justify the objection...

can you present anything that will demonstrate how one knows what is wrong, a wrong?
: At 4/29/2014 3:14:36 AM, annanicole wrote:

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: I'll be happy to concede the raping of virgin girls, if you can find it somewhere.
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4/6/2014 12:49:20 PM
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At 4/6/2014 12:16:52 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/6/2014 11:58:42 AM, srehtiw wrote:
At 4/6/2014 11:50:46 AM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/6/2014 11:41:28 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 4/6/2014 10:25:04 AM, s-anthony wrote:

A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

Knowing good and evil is not the same as knowing right from wrong.

Nonsense! That swine of a creator framed Adam and Eve and you know it. And besides, what kind of a suck fukk would purposely set up innocent people anyway for the pleasure of a laugh out of it?
That is not what happened. For starters the whole thing is a metaphor so first you need to start looking at it from a different angle to understand how it actually was.

We may have reached agreement here! It's all the 'God metaphor'. None of it is 'literally' true and so therefore it's all a delusion. Or in fact, Christians have been deluded into believing in the bible. We can call it the "God Delusion".

It just has to be true that modern Christians such as you, neutral, and their ilk have helped to bring Christian belief around to agreement in nearly all principles with Richard Dawkins. That has been done in a lame attempt to remain credible in a modern world that must adhere to scientific facts.

The problem that will inevitably arise out of doing that is that Christians won't have any attraction to hold onto. Their personal god who furnishes the 'next' life for them will be gone in favour of a metaphorical god. The trap has been sprung.

*tips fedora*
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4/6/2014 12:57:28 PM
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At 4/6/2014 12:16:52 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/6/2014 11:58:42 AM, srehtiw wrote:
At 4/6/2014 11:50:46 AM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/6/2014 11:41:28 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 4/6/2014 10:25:04 AM, s-anthony wrote:

A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

Knowing good and evil is not the same as knowing right from wrong.

Nonsense! That swine of a creator framed Adam and Eve and you know it. And besides, what kind of a suck fukk would purposely set up innocent people anyway for the pleasure of a laugh out of it?
That is not what happened. For starters the whole thing is a metaphor so first you need to start looking at it from a different angle to understand how it actually was.

We may have reached agreement here! It's all the 'God metaphor'. None of it is 'literally' true and so therefore it's all a delusion. Or in fact, Christians have been deluded into believing in the bible. We can call it the "God Delusion".

It just has to be true that modern Christians such as you, neutral, and their ilk have helped to bring Christian belief around to agreement in nearly all principles with Richard Dawkins. That has been done in a lame attempt to remain credible in a modern world that must adhere to scientific facts.

The problem that will inevitably arise out of doing that is that Christians won't have any attraction to hold onto. Their personal god who furnishes the 'next' life for them will be gone in favour of a metaphorical god. The trap has been sprung.

excellent...
we don't call ourselves a-thorists...or a-Zeusists
looks like that word atheists will be just as obsolete
: At 4/29/2014 3:14:36 AM, annanicole wrote:

:
: I'll be happy to concede the raping of virgin girls, if you can find it somewhere.
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4/6/2014 2:00:05 PM
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At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

Because GOD talked with them about this very thing Gen 2:17
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4/6/2014 2:06:02 PM
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At 4/6/2014 2:00:05 PM, Measure wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

Because GOD talked with them about this very thing Gen 2:17

in order to communicate an idea both parties have to agree on the definition of the idea...
the idea was placing a boundary...."thou shall not"...
since adam was living a boundless existence before the boundary was placed, how do you explain Adam understood what a boundary meant...
it's like expecting a baby to understand the word "no" the first time she/he hears it...
: At 4/29/2014 3:14:36 AM, annanicole wrote:

:
: I'll be happy to concede the raping of virgin girls, if you can find it somewhere.
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4/6/2014 2:31:44 PM
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At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

Lol - touche

Nice observation! ...but, perhaps that was not the "kind" of knowledge the metaphor was referring to. Some get it, most don't. None talk about it...
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4/6/2014 3:34:04 PM
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At 4/6/2014 12:16:52 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/6/2014 11:58:42 AM, srehtiw wrote:
At 4/6/2014 11:50:46 AM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/6/2014 11:41:28 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 4/6/2014 10:25:04 AM, s-anthony wrote:

A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

Knowing good and evil is not the same as knowing right from wrong.

Nonsense! That swine of a creator framed Adam and Eve and you know it. And besides, what kind of a suck fukk would purposely set up innocent people anyway for the pleasure of a laugh out of it?
That is not what happened. For starters the whole thing is a metaphor so first you need to start looking at it from a different angle to understand how it actually was.

We may have reached agreement here! It's all the 'God metaphor'. None of it is 'literally' true and so therefore it's all a delusion. Or in fact, Christians have been deluded into believing in the bible. We can call it the "God Delusion".

It just has to be true that modern Christians such as you, neutral, and their ilk have helped to bring Christian belief around to agreement in nearly all principles with Richard Dawkins. That has been done in a lame attempt to remain credible in a modern world that must adhere to scientific facts.

The problem that will inevitably arise out of doing that is that Christians won't have any attraction to hold onto. Their personal god who furnishes the 'next' life for them will be gone in favour of a metaphorical god. The trap has been sprung.
You misunderstand me. I believe revelation and some of genesis is metaphorical. I believe the rest.
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4/6/2014 3:48:52 PM
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Adam and Eve does not know what is good or evil. Proof that they did not know good or evil is when they weren't ashamed to see each other naked. They are simply doing what they are told to do. The biblical God is the first one to tell them not to eat from the tree.

However, if we are to switch roles, we can also prove that Adam and Eve does not know good or evil. Let's say that when Adam and Eve are created, Satan came up to them and told them to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Otherwise, they won't enjoy their existence. Then, God comes out of nowhere and tells Adam and Eve that they should not eat from the tree. Otherwise, they'll die.

Who will Adam and Eve trust? They don't know what is good or evil. As I have said before, they are simply doing what they are told to do. That is why if they are told not to eat, they won't eat. However, if they are told to eat, they will eat. Based on assumption, Adam and Eve ate from the tree because they have no idea if it's bad or good; they simply agreed with Satan, but they have no idea if Satan is a good or bad creation.

However, we may ask, "God told Adam and Eve that they'll die if they do eat from the tree. Doesn't that make Adam and Eve know what is good and bad?" The question has already been answered: they don't know what is good or bad. They probably don't know if death is a good thing or not. That is why when Satan told them that they should eat from the tree, Adam and Eve simply agreed to Satan just as how they agreed to God from the beginning.

If God were to interrupt Satan from tempting Eve to eat from the tree, then there would be a whole new situation. And Eve will probably not eat from the tree. However, due to the situation that 'God wasn't there' to prevent Eve from eating, Eve did what Satan tempted her to do. Not because she knows it's good or bad, but because of temptation, which to Eve's perspective, is not a bad thing, for she doesn't know what is good or evil.

In conclusion, Adam and Eve aren't at fault here. They have no knowledge of good or evil; they simply did what they are being told to do. However, Satan used the advantage to make Adam and Eve eat from the tree. Satan knows that Adam and Eve have no knowledge of what is good or evil. Therefore, he used temptation to tempt Eve. Eve, having no knowledge if the temptation from Satan is a good thing or not, agreed to him and ate from the tree.

This leads to two points: (1) Satan is the one who is at fault for tempting Eve. (2) God is the one who caused everything.

What does this mean? What I am going to say is explained in my previous topic: God created evil because it was His plan. This is explained in the link below:

http://www.debate.org...
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4/6/2014 4:07:45 PM
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At 4/6/2014 11:41:28 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 4/6/2014 10:25:04 AM, s-anthony wrote:

A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

Knowing good and evil is not the same as knowing right from wrong.

Are you telling me, doing good can be wrong and doing evil can be right?
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4/6/2014 5:53:47 PM
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At 4/6/2014 11:41:28 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 4/6/2014 10:25:04 AM, s-anthony wrote:

A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

Knowing good and evil is not the same as knowing right from wrong.

How so ? If you must defend the Bible you can point out that God specifically told Adam, and by implication Eve, not to eat from it. That way they knew they were doing what God instructed against.
Porn babes be distracting me. Dudes be stealing me stuff. I'm all about the cash from now. I'm not playing Jesus anymore.
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4/6/2014 6:59:00 PM
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At 4/6/2014 3:48:52 PM, Angelos wrote:
Adam and Eve does not know what is good or evil. Proof that they did not know good or evil is when they weren't ashamed to see each other naked. They are simply doing what they are told to do. The biblical God is the first one to tell them not to eat from the tree.

Proof positive of how amazingly stupid and vacant you people's minds really are. Are you all from Alabama or Tennessee or Mississippi?
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4/6/2014 8:42:07 PM
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At 4/6/2014 2:00:05 PM, Measure wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

Because GOD talked with them about this very thing Gen 2:17

If God had already given them the knowledge of good and evil, then, why were they forbidden to partake of the knowledge of good and evil?
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4/6/2014 8:48:51 PM
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At 4/6/2014 2:06:02 PM, perplexed wrote:
At 4/6/2014 2:00:05 PM, Measure wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

Because GOD talked with them about this very thing Gen 2:17

in order to communicate an idea both parties have to agree on the definition of the idea...
the idea was placing a boundary...."thou shall not"...
since adam was living a boundless existence before the boundary was placed, how do you explain Adam understood what a boundary meant...
it's like expecting a baby to understand the word "no" the first time she/he hears it...

You assume ignorance on the part of Adam, which of course reflects on his Maker. So you then must assume GOD created Adam ignorant, or at least incapable of understanding what HE asked, which would be a set up. So then, how would he get the task of naming all the animals with such a limited understanding, as you assume?
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4/6/2014 8:50:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/6/2014 2:31:44 PM, SemperVI wrote:
At 4/5/2014 5:18:49 PM, s-anthony wrote:
A poster, perplexed, recently raised a good point: If Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, before they ate from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, how would they have known it was wrong to disobey God?

Lol - touche

Nice observation! ...but, perhaps that was not the "kind" of knowledge the metaphor was referring to. Some get it, most don't. None talk about it...

Then, what kind of knowledge was the metaphor's referring to, if it weren't referring to the kind of knowledge to which it said it was referring?