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monty1
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4/11/2014 1:39:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Is it physical or mental problems with Catholic priests? What causes them to pursue children and why do they usually prefer male children? Was there a physical or mental deficiency in their makeup that led them to become priests of the catholic church? Can we even begin to suggest that the majority of priests are normal when it's obvious that most of them are affected in some way? Indeed, is the pope normal when he finds reasons and excuses to condone the behaviour of the priests? Would it be normal behaviour to have them jailed for long terms in prisons for their crimes?
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4/11/2014 6:23:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Where are you brother neutral? This is for catholics like you and of course any catholic who would like to either condemn the priests or defend them.
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4/11/2014 8:34:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/11/2014 1:39:42 PM, monty1 wrote:
Is it physical or mental problems with Catholic priests? What causes them to pursue children and why do they usually prefer male children? Was there a physical or mental deficiency in their makeup that led them to become priests of the catholic church? Can we even begin to suggest that the majority of priests are normal when it's obvious that most of them are affected in some way? Indeed, is the pope normal when he finds reasons and excuses to condone the behaviour of the priests? Would it be normal behaviour to have them jailed for long terms in prisons for their crimes?

Are you just ignorant of the meanings of the terms paedophile and homosexual?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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4/12/2014 2:27:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/11/2014 6:23:07 PM, monty1 wrote:
Where are you brother neutral? This is for catholics like you and of course any catholic who would like to either condemn the priests or defend them.

If they happen to be priests who don't get married for the sake of religion, then that's the reason, this choice of not getting married is an innovation in the religion, even prophets of God always got married, God made them men!

Now because they made the wrong choice they got the bad result.
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4/12/2014 12:25:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/11/2014 8:34:12 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 4/11/2014 1:39:42 PM, monty1 wrote:
Is it physical or mental problems with Catholic priests? What causes them to pursue children and why do they usually prefer male children? Was there a physical or mental deficiency in their makeup that led them to become priests of the catholic church? Can we even begin to suggest that the majority of priests are normal when it's obvious that most of them are affected in some way? Indeed, is the pope normal when he finds reasons and excuses to condone the behaviour of the priests? Would it be normal behaviour to have them jailed for long terms in prisons for their crimes?

Are you just ignorant of the meanings of the terms paedophile and homosexual?

No. They are two distinct terms but in some cases they are combined to describe catholic priests. The homosexual community would prefer to keep the two separate and unrelated and the church would prefer that too. It can't be acknowledged that a homosexual is a sexually perverted person.

It doesn't have to be either 'nature' or 'nurture', it can be a combination of the two and in most cases it appears to be so with catholic priests. The pedophilia perversion is obviously combined with homosexuality.

We are trying to keep that an unspoken truth. It comes threateningly close to accepting only the 'nurture' element.
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4/12/2014 1:19:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/12/2014 12:25:34 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/11/2014 8:34:12 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 4/11/2014 1:39:42 PM, monty1 wrote:
Is it physical or mental problems with Catholic priests? What causes them to pursue children and why do they usually prefer male children? Was there a physical or mental deficiency in their makeup that led them to become priests of the catholic church? Can we even begin to suggest that the majority of priests are normal when it's obvious that most of them are affected in some way? Indeed, is the pope normal when he finds reasons and excuses to condone the behaviour of the priests? Would it be normal behaviour to have them jailed for long terms in prisons for their crimes?

Are you just ignorant of the meanings of the terms paedophile and homosexual?

No. They are two distinct terms but in some cases they are combined to describe catholic priests. The homosexual community would prefer to keep the two separate and unrelated and the church would prefer that too. It can't be acknowledged that a homosexual is a sexually perverted person.

So, are the priests pedophiles, or are they gay?

True pedophilia is an orientation, in and of itself. It's an attraction to prepubescent children, regardless of gender. If the priests were having sex with prepubescent children, then, they were practicing pedophilia. If the priests were having sex with sexually mature males, then, they were practicing homosexuality. If the priests were having sex with prepubescent boys, then, most likely, the priests are pedophiles and the prepubescent boys were more readily available to the priests than prepubescent girls.

This is a dynamic of which the Church is well aware and instead of dealing with the true issues, at hand, prefers to further demonize homosexuality.


It doesn't have to be either 'nature' or 'nurture', it can be a combination of the two and in most cases it appears to be so with catholic priests. The pedophilia perversion is obviously combined with homosexuality.

No. The only people's trying to combine pedophilia with homosexuality are people who are either ignorant of that which true pedophilia is or they have an aversion to homosexuality and are trying to propagate the unscientific idea: homosexuality and pedophilia are one and the same.


We are trying to keep that an unspoken truth. It comes threateningly close to accepting only the 'nurture' element.
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4/12/2014 10:49:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/12/2014 12:25:34 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/11/2014 8:34:12 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 4/11/2014 1:39:42 PM, monty1 wrote:
Is it physical or mental problems with Catholic priests? What causes them to pursue children and why do they usually prefer male children? Was there a physical or mental deficiency in their makeup that led them to become priests of the catholic church? Can we even begin to suggest that the majority of priests are normal when it's obvious that most of them are affected in some way? Indeed, is the pope normal when he finds reasons and excuses to condone the behaviour of the priests? Would it be normal behaviour to have them jailed for long terms in prisons for their crimes?

Are you just ignorant of the meanings of the terms paedophile and homosexual?

No. They are two distinct terms but in some cases they are combined to describe catholic priests. The homosexual community would prefer to keep the two separate and unrelated and the church would prefer that too. It can't be acknowledged that a homosexual is a sexually perverted person.

It doesn't have to be either 'nature' or 'nurture', it can be a combination of the two and in most cases it appears to be so with catholic priests. The pedophilia perversion is obviously combined with homosexuality.

We are trying to keep that an unspoken truth. It comes threateningly close to accepting only the 'nurture' element.

The internet has a lot to answer for. 20yrs ago you would have restricted a demonstration of you gross ignorance to family and friends, but now you place it on display for the entire world to laugh at.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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4/12/2014 11:19:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/12/2014 1:19:47 PM, s-anthony wrote:
At 4/12/2014 12:25:34 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/11/2014 8:34:12 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 4/11/2014 1:39:42 PM, monty1 wrote:
Is it physical or mental problems with Catholic priests? What causes them to pursue children and why do they usually prefer male children? Was there a physical or mental deficiency in their makeup that led them to become priests of the catholic church? Can we even begin to suggest that the majority of priests are normal when it's obvious that most of them are affected in some way? Indeed, is the pope normal when he finds reasons and excuses to condone the behaviour of the priests? Would it be normal behaviour to have them jailed for long terms in prisons for their crimes?

Are you just ignorant of the meanings of the terms paedophile and homosexual?

No. They are two distinct terms but in some cases they are combined to describe catholic priests. The homosexual community would prefer to keep the two separate and unrelated and the church would prefer that too. It can't be acknowledged that a homosexual is a sexually perverted person.

So, are the priests pedophiles, or are they gay?

True pedophilia is an orientation, in and of itself. It's an attraction to prepubescent children, regardless of gender. If the priests were having sex with prepubescent children, then, they were practicing pedophilia. If the priests were having sex with sexually mature males, then, they were practicing homosexuality. If the priests were having sex with prepubescent boys, then, most likely, the priests are pedophiles and the prepubescent boys were more readily available to the priests than prepubescent girls.

This is a dynamic of which the Church is well aware and instead of dealing with the true issues, at hand, prefers to further demonize homosexuality.


It doesn't have to be either 'nature' or 'nurture', it can be a combination of the two and in most cases it appears to be so with catholic priests. The pedophilia perversion is obviously combined with homosexuality.

No. The only people's trying to combine pedophilia with homosexuality are people who are either ignorant of that which true pedophilia is or they have an aversion to homosexuality and are trying to propagate the unscientific idea: homosexuality and pedophilia are one and the same.


We are trying to keep that an unspoken truth. It comes threateningly close to accepting only the 'nurture' element.

pedophiles who are homosexuals too. Pedophile homosexuals. or vice versa, Homosexual pedophiles.

And no, neither are always both but catholic priests are pretty well unanimously favouring young boys.

Strictly pedophiles would likely prefer young girls. Can any of you pedophiles say that isn't true?
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4/12/2014 11:23:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/12/2014 2:27:54 AM, Fruitytree wrote:
At 4/11/2014 6:23:07 PM, monty1 wrote:
Where are you brother neutral? This is for catholics like you and of course any catholic who would like to either condemn the priests or defend them.

If they happen to be priests who don't get married for the sake of religion, then that's the reason, this choice of not getting married is an innovation in the religion, even prophets of God always got married, God made them men!

Now because they made the wrong choice they got the bad result.

I would strongly suggest that most priests who are either homosexuals or pedophiles chose the priesthood because of their affliction. If they were offered the opportunity to marry, few would jump at the chance.
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4/12/2014 11:25:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/12/2014 11:19:04 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/12/2014 1:19:47 PM, s-anthony wrote:
At 4/12/2014 12:25:34 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/11/2014 8:34:12 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 4/11/2014 1:39:42 PM, monty1 wrote:
Is it physical or mental problems with Catholic priests? What causes them to pursue children and why do they usually prefer male children? Was there a physical or mental deficiency in their makeup that led them to become priests of the catholic church? Can we even begin to suggest that the majority of priests are normal when it's obvious that most of them are affected in some way? Indeed, is the pope normal when he finds reasons and excuses to condone the behaviour of the priests? Would it be normal behaviour to have them jailed for long terms in prisons for their crimes?

Are you just ignorant of the meanings of the terms paedophile and homosexual?

No. They are two distinct terms but in some cases they are combined to describe catholic priests. The homosexual community would prefer to keep the two separate and unrelated and the church would prefer that too. It can't be acknowledged that a homosexual is a sexually perverted person.

So, are the priests pedophiles, or are they gay?

True pedophilia is an orientation, in and of itself. It's an attraction to prepubescent children, regardless of gender. If the priests were having sex with prepubescent children, then, they were practicing pedophilia. If the priests were having sex with sexually mature males, then, they were practicing homosexuality. If the priests were having sex with prepubescent boys, then, most likely, the priests are pedophiles and the prepubescent boys were more readily available to the priests than prepubescent girls.

This is a dynamic of which the Church is well aware and instead of dealing with the true issues, at hand, prefers to further demonize homosexuality.


It doesn't have to be either 'nature' or 'nurture', it can be a combination of the two and in most cases it appears to be so with catholic priests. The pedophilia perversion is obviously combined with homosexuality.

No. The only people's trying to combine pedophilia with homosexuality are people who are either ignorant of that which true pedophilia is or they have an aversion to homosexuality and are trying to propagate the unscientific idea: homosexuality and pedophilia are one and the same.


We are trying to keep that an unspoken truth. It comes threateningly close to accepting only the 'nurture' element.

pedophiles who are homosexuals too. Pedophile homosexuals. or vice versa, Homosexual pedophiles.

And no, neither are always both but catholic priests are pretty well unanimously favouring young boys.

Strictly pedophiles would likely prefer young girls. Can any of you pedophiles say that isn't true?
So you can't differentiate between homosexual and paedophile but you claim that paedophiles prefer young girls.

If you don't mind I will ignore anything you have to say about sexuality, a subject you obviously have no knowledge of.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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4/12/2014 11:26:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
homosexual priests of the catholic church: Some physically afflicted and not capable of a relationship with a woman.

Others mentally afflicted because of flawed parenting.

And still others, born homosexuals perhaps?
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4/12/2014 11:29:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/11/2014 1:39:42 PM, monty1 wrote:
Is it physical or mental problems with Catholic priests? What causes them to pursue children and why do they usually prefer male children? Was there a physical or mental deficiency in their makeup that led them to become priests of the catholic church? Can we even begin to suggest that the majority of priests are normal when it's obvious that most of them are affected in some way? Indeed, is the pope normal when he finds reasons and excuses to condone the behaviour of the priests? Would it be normal behaviour to have them jailed for long terms in prisons for their crimes?

monty, i can see that this post has nothing to with priests but your propensity to be attracted to little boys....and you are looking for ways to justify it and feel better about it...

oh monty....i suggest you turn your self into the authorities before you harm one more...
: At 4/29/2014 3:14:36 AM, annanicole wrote:

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: I'll be happy to concede the raping of virgin girls, if you can find it somewhere.
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4/12/2014 11:37:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/12/2014 11:29:41 PM, perplexed wrote:
At 4/11/2014 1:39:42 PM, monty1 wrote:
Is it physical or mental problems with Catholic priests? What causes them to pursue children and why do they usually prefer male children? Was there a physical or mental deficiency in their makeup that led them to become priests of the catholic church? Can we even begin to suggest that the majority of priests are normal when it's obvious that most of them are affected in some way? Indeed, is the pope normal when he finds reasons and excuses to condone the behaviour of the priests? Would it be normal behaviour to have them jailed for long terms in prisons for their crimes?

monty, i can see that this post has nothing to with priests but your propensity to be attracted to little boys....and you are looking for ways to justify it and feel better about it...

oh monty....i suggest you turn your self into the authorities before you harm one more...

And I suggest you turn yourself 'in to' a more happy and contented person. You know how to do that now but it comes with more pain before there is relief.

Which parent was it? I can't believe that two people, man and wife could just happen to be the same in regard to choosing religion over their child.

Would you like to talk about me while you consider whether or not you can answer the question? The answer will be a start and it's something this forum cannot offer you.

And me? Do you honestly think I'm a pedophile? If so then tell me why.
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4/13/2014 12:02:57 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/12/2014 11:37:38 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/12/2014 11:29:41 PM, perplexed wrote:
At 4/11/2014 1:39:42 PM, monty1 wrote:
Is it physical or mental problems with Catholic priests? What causes them to pursue children and why do they usually prefer male children? Was there a physical or mental deficiency in their makeup that led them to become priests of the catholic church? Can we even begin to suggest that the majority of priests are normal when it's obvious that most of them are affected in some way? Indeed, is the pope normal when he finds reasons and excuses to condone the behaviour of the priests? Would it be normal behaviour to have them jailed for long terms in prisons for their crimes?

monty, i can see that this post has nothing to with priests but your propensity to be attracted to little boys....and you are looking for ways to justify it and feel better about it...

oh monty....i suggest you turn your self into the authorities before you harm one more...

And I suggest you turn yourself 'in to' a more happy and contented person. You know how to do that now but it comes with more pain before there is relief.

Which parent was it? I can't believe that two people, man and wife could just happen to be the same in regard to choosing religion over their child.

Would you like to talk about me while you consider whether or not you can answer the question? The answer will be a start and it's something this forum cannot offer you.

And me? Do you honestly think I'm a pedophile? If so then tell me why.

stop denying it monty...this post of your tells me everything there is to know who you are...a very troubled person...
: At 4/29/2014 3:14:36 AM, annanicole wrote:

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: I'll be happy to concede the raping of virgin girls, if you can find it somewhere.
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4/13/2014 12:34:13 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/12/2014 11:19:04 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/12/2014 1:19:47 PM, s-anthony wrote:
At 4/12/2014 12:25:34 PM, monty1 wrote:
At 4/11/2014 8:34:12 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 4/11/2014 1:39:42 PM, monty1 wrote:
Is it physical or mental problems with Catholic priests? What causes them to pursue children and why do they usually prefer male children? Was there a physical or mental deficiency in their makeup that led them to become priests of the catholic church? Can we even begin to suggest that the majority of priests are normal when it's obvious that most of them are affected in some way? Indeed, is the pope normal when he finds reasons and excuses to condone the behaviour of the priests? Would it be normal behaviour to have them jailed for long terms in prisons for their crimes?

Are you just ignorant of the meanings of the terms paedophile and homosexual?

No. They are two distinct terms but in some cases they are combined to describe catholic priests. The homosexual community would prefer to keep the two separate and unrelated and the church would prefer that too. It can't be acknowledged that a homosexual is a sexually perverted person.

So, are the priests pedophiles, or are they gay?

True pedophilia is an orientation, in and of itself. It's an attraction to prepubescent children, regardless of gender. If the priests were having sex with prepubescent children, then, they were practicing pedophilia. If the priests were having sex with sexually mature males, then, they were practicing homosexuality. If the priests were having sex with prepubescent boys, then, most likely, the priests are pedophiles and the prepubescent boys were more readily available to the priests than prepubescent girls.

This is a dynamic of which the Church is well aware and instead of dealing with the true issues, at hand, prefers to further demonize homosexuality.


It doesn't have to be either 'nature' or 'nurture', it can be a combination of the two and in most cases it appears to be so with catholic priests. The pedophilia perversion is obviously combined with homosexuality.

No. The only people's trying to combine pedophilia with homosexuality are people who are either ignorant of that which true pedophilia is or they have an aversion to homosexuality and are trying to propagate the unscientific idea: homosexuality and pedophilia are one and the same.


We are trying to keep that an unspoken truth. It comes threateningly close to accepting only the 'nurture' element.

pedophiles who are homosexuals too. Pedophile homosexuals. or vice versa, Homosexual pedophiles.

And no, neither are always both but catholic priests are pretty well unanimously favouring young boys.

How many altar girls do you know?


Strictly pedophiles would likely prefer young girls. Can any of you pedophiles say that isn't true?

"Although the majority of clergy abuse victims are males, homosexuality cannot be blamed. First, many of the pedophile priests report that they are not homosexual. This is also true of many non-clergy sex offenders who victimize boys. Many report that they target boys for a variety of reasons that include easier access to boys ... pregnancy fears with female victims ... homosexuals in general have not been found to be more likely to commit sexual crimes against minors compared to heterosexuals. Sexual orientation is not predictive of sex crimes." - Mental Disorders of the New Millennium (2006), author and psychology professor Thomas Plante