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In the Midst of Life, We are in Death

s-anthony
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4/13/2014 2:45:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
There are blatant contradictions in the story of the fall; yet, one primary hurdle one must overcome, in logic, is the problem of death.

Most people view death as a mere event that happens once in a person's lifetime, memorialized, usually, by a ceremony. However, death is all about us; as a reading from the Book of Common Prayer says, "In the midst of life, we are in death." We are not merely living; yet, we are dying. Each and every breath we take marks the passing of, yet, another microscopic constituent of our larger selves. Whether they be human cells or microorganisms of which we have symbiotic relationships, things are always dying to accommodate new life.

However, I'm sure there are those who don't see the significance of death. They may believe, a deathless world could exist. However, a deathless world is a changeless world; a world that is not marked by the passing of time; a world that violates the second law of thermodynamics. You see, it's essential, to the very nature of our beings, for things to go from order to disorder, to accommodate the phenomenal world. Without death, there is no change; and, without change, there is no growth; and, without growth, there is no life.
Fruitytree
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4/13/2014 5:15:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/13/2014 2:45:22 PM, s-anthony wrote:
There are blatant contradictions in the story of the fall; yet, one primary hurdle one must overcome, in logic, is the problem of death.

Most people view death as a mere event that happens once in a person's lifetime, memorialized, usually, by a ceremony. However, death is all about us; as a reading from the Book of Common Prayer says, "In the midst of life, we are in death." We are not merely living; yet, we are dying. Each and every breath we take marks the passing of, yet, another microscopic constituent of our larger selves. Whether they be human cells or microorganisms of which we have symbiotic relationships, things are always dying to accommodate new life.

I think you are committing a logical fallacy here.

Death isn't essential to existence of time, and time doesn't necessarily leads to death.

So if there were to be a deathless world, after this world, you must understand that it is outside the universe, so don't apply the rules you know automatically.

And there is an element we know nothing about scientifically, which is spirit.

As for life here is just footsteps towards death, then I agree with you totally, and maybe we should think of it more often.
s-anthony
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4/13/2014 6:51:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/13/2014 5:15:46 PM, Fruitytree wrote:
At 4/13/2014 2:45:22 PM, s-anthony wrote:
There are blatant contradictions in the story of the fall; yet, one primary hurdle one must overcome, in logic, is the problem of death.

Most people view death as a mere event that happens once in a person's lifetime, memorialized, usually, by a ceremony. However, death is all about us; as a reading from the Book of Common Prayer says, "In the midst of life, we are in death." We are not merely living; yet, we are dying. Each and every breath we take marks the passing of, yet, another microscopic constituent of our larger selves. Whether they be human cells or microorganisms of which we have symbiotic relationships, things are always dying to accommodate new life.

I think you are committing a logical fallacy here.

Death isn't essential to existence of time, and time doesn't necessarily leads to death.

Time is change, in relation to space. Things change, because things break down, or go from order to disorder; when a living organism breaks down, we call it death. If things never changed, time would be illogical; because, time is, merely, a change in space. Look at it this way: if the phenomenal world did not exist (in other words, no sense of change in stimulation, all things remained phenomenally static,) what sense would time make. Time is, merely, a change in spatial phenomena. It's the second law of thermodynamics, or specifically entropy, that describes change. Change is merely going from order to disorder to order, again, a seemingly eternal cycle, construction to destruction to construction, once more, life to death to life, once again.


So if there were to be a deathless world, after this world, you must understand that it is outside the universe, so don't apply the rules you know automatically.

A deathless world is a changeless world.

If this world existed beyond our experience, we couldn't apply anything to anything; because, having not experienced it, we would have no knowledge of it; and, you can't speak of something of which you don't know.


And there is an element we know nothing about scientifically, which is spirit.

If you know nothing about it, how do know anything about it?


As for life here is just footsteps towards death, then I agree with you totally, and maybe we should think of it more often.
SteamyPooPoo
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4/13/2014 7:12:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/13/2014 2:45:22 PM, s-anthony wrote:
There are blatant contradictions in the story of the fall; yet, one primary hurdle one must overcome, in logic, is the problem of death.

Most people view death as a mere event that happens once in a person's lifetime, memorialized, usually, by a ceremony. However, death is all about us; as a reading from the Book of Common Prayer says, "In the midst of life, we are in death." We are not merely living; yet, we are dying. Each and every breath we take marks the passing of, yet, another microscopic constituent of our larger selves. Whether they be human cells or microorganisms of which we have symbiotic relationships, things are always dying to accommodate new life.

However, I'm sure there are those who don't see the significance of death. They may believe, a deathless world could exist. However, a deathless world is a changeless world; a world that is not marked by the passing of time; a world that violates the second law of thermodynamics. You see, it's essential, to the very nature of our beings, for things to go from order to disorder, to accommodate the phenomenal world. Without death, there is no change; and, without change, there is no growth; and, without growth, there is no life.

YOU ARE A TOTAL AND UTTER MORON!!!!!! LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

You are an ATHEIST WANNABEW!!!! YOU DONT EXIST EITHER BECUASE ATHEISTS ARE IMAginaRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY CANNT EXIST IF THEY DONT WORSHIP GOD!!!! THEREFORE THEY DONT EXIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111
s-anthony
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4/13/2014 10:04:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/13/2014 7:12:03 PM, SteamyPooPoo wrote:
At 4/13/2014 2:45:22 PM, s-anthony wrote:
There are blatant contradictions in the story of the fall; yet, one primary hurdle one must overcome, in logic, is the problem of death.

Most people view death as a mere event that happens once in a person's lifetime, memorialized, usually, by a ceremony. However, death is all about us; as a reading from the Book of Common Prayer says, "In the midst of life, we are in death." We are not merely living; yet, we are dying. Each and every breath we take marks the passing of, yet, another microscopic constituent of our larger selves. Whether they be human cells or microorganisms of which we have symbiotic relationships, things are always dying to accommodate new life.

However, I'm sure there are those who don't see the significance of death. They may believe, a deathless world could exist. However, a deathless world is a changeless world; a world that is not marked by the passing of time; a world that violates the second law of thermodynamics. You see, it's essential, to the very nature of our beings, for things to go from order to disorder, to accommodate the phenomenal world. Without death, there is no change; and, without change, there is no growth; and, without growth, there is no life.

YOU ARE A TOTAL AND UTTER MORON!!!!!! LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

You are an ATHEIST WANNABEW!!!! YOU DONT EXIST EITHER BECUASE ATHEISTS ARE IMAginaRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY CANNT EXIST IF THEY DONT WORSHIP GOD!!!! THEREFORE THEY DONT EXIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111

I'm not an atheist anything.

If they don't exist, then, how are you talking about them?
SteamyPooPoo
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4/13/2014 10:43:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/13/2014 10:04:22 PM, s-anthony wrote:
At 4/13/2014 7:12:03 PM, SteamyPooPoo wrote:
At 4/13/2014 2:45:22 PM, s-anthony wrote:
There are blatant contradictions in the story of the fall; yet, one primary hurdle one must overcome, in logic, is the problem of death.

Most people view death as a mere event that happens once in a person's lifetime, memorialized, usually, by a ceremony. However, death is all about us; as a reading from the Book of Common Prayer says, "In the midst of life, we are in death." We are not merely living; yet, we are dying. Each and every breath we take marks the passing of, yet, another microscopic constituent of our larger selves. Whether they be human cells or microorganisms of which we have symbiotic relationships, things are always dying to accommodate new life.

However, I'm sure there are those who don't see the significance of death. They may believe, a deathless world could exist. However, a deathless world is a changeless world; a world that is not marked by the passing of time; a world that violates the second law of thermodynamics. You see, it's essential, to the very nature of our beings, for things to go from order to disorder, to accommodate the phenomenal world. Without death, there is no change; and, without change, there is no growth; and, without growth, there is no life.

YOU ARE A TOTAL AND UTTER MORON!!!!!! LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

You are an ATHEIST WANNABEW!!!! YOU DONT EXIST EITHER BECUASE ATHEISTS ARE IMAginaRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY CANNT EXIST IF THEY DONT WORSHIP GOD!!!! THEREFORE THEY DONT EXIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111

I'm not an atheist anything.

If they don't exist, then, how are you talking about them?

How do we talk and make fun of unicorns?? BECAUSE THEY ARE IMAGINARY AND DONTT EXXISTS!!!!!!!! LOL SUCH UTTER STUPIDITIY!!!!!
s-anthony
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4/14/2014 8:51:46 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/13/2014 10:43:21 PM, SteamyPooPoo wrote:
At 4/13/2014 10:04:22 PM, s-anthony wrote:
At 4/13/2014 7:12:03 PM, SteamyPooPoo wrote:
At 4/13/2014 2:45:22 PM, s-anthony wrote:
There are blatant contradictions in the story of the fall; yet, one primary hurdle one must overcome, in logic, is the problem of death.

Most people view death as a mere event that happens once in a person's lifetime, memorialized, usually, by a ceremony. However, death is all about us; as a reading from the Book of Common Prayer says, "In the midst of life, we are in death." We are not merely living; yet, we are dying. Each and every breath we take marks the passing of, yet, another microscopic constituent of our larger selves. Whether they be human cells or microorganisms of which we have symbiotic relationships, things are always dying to accommodate new life.

However, I'm sure there are those who don't see the significance of death. They may believe, a deathless world could exist. However, a deathless world is a changeless world; a world that is not marked by the passing of time; a world that violates the second law of thermodynamics. You see, it's essential, to the very nature of our beings, for things to go from order to disorder, to accommodate the phenomenal world. Without death, there is no change; and, without change, there is no growth; and, without growth, there is no life.

YOU ARE A TOTAL AND UTTER MORON!!!!!! LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

You are an ATHEIST WANNABEW!!!! YOU DONT EXIST EITHER BECUASE ATHEISTS ARE IMAginaRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY CANNT EXIST IF THEY DONT WORSHIP GOD!!!! THEREFORE THEY DONT EXIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111

I'm not an atheist anything.

If they don't exist, then, how are you talking about them?

How do we talk and make fun of unicorns?? BECAUSE THEY ARE IMAGINARY AND DONTT EXXISTS!!!!!!!! LOL SUCH UTTER STUPIDITIY!!!!!

Unicorns exist, if only in our heads. All a unicorn is exists in reality: a horse and a single horn. We can only take that which we know, things that exist, to create the contents of our imaginations. We can't know something that doesn't exist; because, something that doesn't exist is nothing.

An atheist is, merely, a person that doesn't believe in God. The word belief doesn't make sense, if there is no disbelief. To say, "I believe in God." would be a nonsensical statement, if no one ever doubted God's existence. It would be like saying, "I like the light." in a world that has never known darkness.