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4/21/2014 6:58:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Atheism leads to communism. China is communist and there official state religion is atheism. Atheism is false (Evilution is wrong, too. Proof here:http://www.debate.org...), as communism is evil. Communists kill the equivalent of 20 Christians (150 atheists) per day for not worshipping darwin by killing kittens.

China does fund churches but they spread blasmephy. Government run Chinese churches idolize coconut crisps and state that Jesus was a SOCIALIST who gave money to POOR PEOPLE!
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4/21/2014 10:29:49 PM
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Atheism = Communism indeed go hand in hand http://dadmansabode.com... .. Jim Jones 1978 the poster child
And he (God) gave some apostles .. and some prophets .. and some evangelists .. and some teaching pastors .. for the perfecting of the saints .. for the work of the ministry .. for the edifying of the body of Christ .. till we all come in the unity of the faith .. and of the knowledge of the Son of God .. to a perfect (complete) man .. to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ . . . . Ephesians 4:12 .. http://dadmansabode.com... .. come and learn
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4/21/2014 10:47:30 PM
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At 4/21/2014 10:29:49 PM, dadman wrote:
Atheism = Communism indeed go hand in hand http://dadmansabode.com... .. Jim Jones 1978 the poster child

good christian lad was jim jones, aye.
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4/21/2014 10:48:28 PM
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How is communism evil? And why is it equal to atheism? If anything, Jesus was way more like a communist than he was a capitalist. The problem is that man is greedy and fallible, and cannot seem to apply communism without corruption or injustice.
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4/22/2014 12:38:33 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/21/2014 6:58:41 PM, jh1234l wrote:
Atheism leads to communism.
Are you able to validate this claim? The majority of atheists I am aware of are not communists, not on the way to communism. I can think of a few who are socialists, but then the question is whether socialism leads or can lead to communism or not.

At 4/21/2014 10:48:28 PM, Kerfluffer wrote:
If anything, Jesus was way more like a communist than he was a capitalist. The problem is that man is greedy and fallible, and cannot seem to apply communism without corruption or injustice.
Jesus' political views would be difficult to determine because he spent so little time regarding politics compared to other fields like theology. There is so little of what Jesus says about politics I we cannot definitely determine much beyond paying taxes to Caesar directly. This would certainly be an interesting topic to discuss. Personally, I think Jesus wasn't a socialist, contrary to opinions I have heard scattered about on the internet. But he certainly was a lot more egalitarian than most of contemporaries.
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4/22/2014 9:42:17 PM
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4/22/2014 10:08:27 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/21/2014 6:58:41 PM, jh1234l wrote:

I hope that this is a troll or sarcasm. I really, really hope that. I will respond to it still, in the possibility that it is not.

Atheism leads to communism. China is communist and there official state religion is atheism. Atheism is false (Evilution is wrong, too. Proof here:http://www.debate.org...), as communism is evil.

Well, you didn't prove atheism leads to communism. Modern implementations of Communism really just drives out religion, and promotes a form of atheistic state worship. The dismissal of gods is not for the purpose of putting forth a humanitarian outlook that many atheist intellectuals in the West seek, but instead are a way to elevate the authority of the government. I watched an interview with a girl who escaped North Korea, who said that she thought Kim Jong Il was a god, and did not believe his death at first, because 'how could a god die?'. It is not truly atheistic, and atheism does not lead to communism.

And how is communism evil? More like dictatorships based around killing and propping up a anti-populist government that spreads fear and propoganda is evil. That's not what communism is supposed to be. Communism is really supposed to be a form of communal living, most explainable as a farming village that pools all of its resources.
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4/22/2014 10:09:52 PM
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At 4/21/2014 6:58:41 PM, jh1234l wrote:
Communists kill the equivalent of 20 Christians (150 atheists) per day

Is that the conversion factor of Christians to atheists? Are atheists only worth 2/15 of a Christian? Are you propagating 3/5 legislation?
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4/22/2014 10:10:10 PM
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At 4/21/2014 6:58:41 PM, jh1234l wrote:
Communists kill the equivalent of 20 Christians (150 atheists) per day

Is that the conversion factor of Christians to atheists? Are atheists only worth 2/15 of a Christian? Are you propagating 3/5 legislation ?
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4/22/2014 10:11:40 PM
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At 4/21/2014 6:58:41 PM, jh1234l wrote:
for not worshipping darwin by killing kittens.

Um. Why would I worship a dead man? And secondly, how does killing kittens have anything to do with either atheism or natural selection? I would understand if you said, not saving feral kittens from a hawk, but this? Seriously? Christians, you are better than this.
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4/22/2014 10:15:06 PM
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At 4/21/2014 6:58:41 PM, jh1234l wrote:

China does fund churches but they spread blasmephy. Government run Chinese churches idolize coconut crisps and state that Jesus was a SOCIALIST who gave money to POOR PEOPLE!

Not sure about the coconut crisps, but Jesus was pretty much a socialist.

Note* I will not say, 'if he existed, or if he was the son of god' every time. Just imagine it in there.

Jesus healed the sick for free. (healthcare)
He told his disciples to give money to the poor
He fed a bunch of hungry people by multiplying bread and drinks (food stamps)
He said that the rich wouldn't get the best spots in heaven, which were reserved for the poor.

Kinda seems like a theocratic socialist to me. That's very different from a state worship military dictatorship fau communist, but it isn't that far from real communism.
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4/22/2014 11:26:48 PM
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At 4/22/2014 9:42:17 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 4/22/2014 6:11:57 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
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I think that's the first funny I've seen from you and it wasn't bad. LOL
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4/22/2014 11:55:19 PM
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At 4/21/2014 6:58:41 PM, jh1234l wrote:
Atheism leads to communism. China is communist and there official state religion is atheism. Atheism is false (Evilution is wrong, too. Proof here:http://www.debate.org...), as communism is evil. Communists kill the equivalent of 20 Christians (150 atheists) per day for not worshipping darwin by killing kittens.

China does fund churches but they spread blasmephy. Government run Chinese churches idolize coconut crisps and state that Jesus was a SOCIALIST who gave money to POOR PEOPLE!

First and foremost, I was profoundly convinced, and yearned as well, that this post was insincere and/or was posted in the absence of rumination. It is evident, or at least implied from your assertions, that the content is a product of impulsiveness. However, that may not be the case so I will proceed with a response anyways despite me being a bit reluctant to.

Your topic headliner indicates that Atheism and Communism are "equal". Your initial assertion indicates that Atheism "leads" to Communism. There is a disparity between the two. Would you please explicate which claim you were concentrating on? After scrutinizing your post, I failed to witness any reasons how Atheism equals Communism. I noticed a similar observation regarding Atheism leading to Communism because reasons to imply that the assertion is credible are also absent.

Moreover, you mention that the state religion of China is "Atheism". The colloquial term Religion by definition is; the belief of a supernatural deity(s). The colloquial term Atheism is defined as; the positive disbelief in a supernatural deity(s). By definition Atheism is not a religion thereby negates the state religion of China to be Atheism.

Your final assertions which include the killing of kittens and the idolization of coconut crisps will not be addressed for various reasons.

If you clarify your post so that it is more transparent to what your actually trying to propose, then I will return and subsequently address it, otherwise, the continuation of my response is redundant.
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4/23/2014 3:16:27 AM
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At 4/21/2014 6:58:41 PM, jh1234l wrote:
Atheism leads to communism. China is communist and there official state religion is atheism. Atheism is false (Evilution is wrong, too. Proof here:http://www.debate.org...), as communism is evil. Communists kill the equivalent of 20 Christians (150 atheists) per day for not worshipping darwin by killing kittens.

China does fund churches but they spread blasmephy. Government run Chinese churches idolize coconut crisps and state that Jesus was a SOCIALIST who gave money to POOR PEOPLE!

Atheism doesn't necessarily lead to communism. Stop being a troll.
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4/23/2014 6:56:02 AM
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At 4/22/2014 9:42:17 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 4/22/2014 6:11:57 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
"This topic has been reported to customer support. If necessary, our staff will edit or remove this topic."

Our customer-support manager's name is Helen Waite. If you have a problem with the topic then go to Helen Waite. :P

Shamelessly stealing that! Nice.
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4/23/2014 3:45:30 PM
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At 4/22/2014 11:26:48 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 4/22/2014 9:42:17 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 4/22/2014 6:11:57 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
"This topic has been reported to customer support. If necessary, our staff will edit or remove this topic."

Our customer-support manager's name is Helen Waite. If you have a problem with the topic then go to Helen Waite. :P

I think that's the first funny I've seen from you and it wasn't bad. LOL

Do I really come-across so serious? All my friends call me a nut.
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4/23/2014 3:58:41 PM
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At 4/23/2014 6:56:02 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 4/22/2014 9:42:17 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 4/22/2014 6:11:57 AM, Installgentoo wrote:
"This topic has been reported to customer support. If necessary, our staff will edit or remove this topic."

Our customer-support manager's name is Helen Waite. If you have a problem with the topic then go to Helen Waite. :P

Shamelessly stealing that! Nice.

I couldn't help myself. It was just too inviting. :P
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4/27/2014 12:08:18 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
So not true. Just because we don't believe in God doesn't mean we're communists. Anyway communism isn't all that evil. Haha who am I kidding of course it's evil it was a good idea gone wrong but atheism is basically just not believing in God. Christians can't just impose their ideas on others like that. You guys are supposed to be the kind that gives your death enemies food and shelter without asking for thanks and all that. Went to a baptist school (my parents forced me to) back when I was a kid and we had to learn CE...
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4/27/2014 4:05:48 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/21/2014 6:58:41 PM, jh1234l wrote:
Atheism leads to communism. China is communist and there official state religion is atheism. Atheism is false (Evilution is wrong, too. Proof here:http://www.debate.org...), as communism is evil. Communists kill the equivalent of 20 Christians (150 atheists) per day for not worshipping darwin by killing kittens.

China does fund churches but they spread blasmephy. Government run Chinese churches idolize coconut crisps and state that Jesus was a SOCIALIST who gave money to POOR PEOPLE!

Hmm.. . Rather extreme argument. First of all, China claims to be communist, yet if you had enough knowledge, as in if you lived there or worked there, you would understand that the economy and the society operates nothing like the communism you talk of. China, as told by the government, is a "Communist" country, ran like a "Chinese Socialism", which means the government does whatever they see fit, under rather pushy barriers.
By simply claiming Atheism is false... Well, Atheism isn't a religion. It isn't a fact. It is simply what people believe, and that is there is no divine beings and deities. Isn't this country supposed to have free-speech? Your argument incorrect, and unsupported.
You also generalize Communists. What is a communist? To honest, I can safely tell you that most of the Chinese population who are educated and rational do not believe in Communism. I do have to admit that saying false things officially is one of the things China does. But that is a different question.
I am really lost about the killing. That sentence made no sense.
China does not fund churches and spread blasphemy. True, if you look at it from a extreme Christian's point of view. China went through thousands of years with absolutely no information regarding Christianity. They had their own religion and beliefs for a very long time, only until recently that changed. Most people in China do not know of Christianity, nor do they care. If I asked you to worship the Buddha, would you? I take it as no. Then you are blasphemous if I were an extreme Buddhist.
Christianity has little place in China, as they have a history and culture without it, just like you have no history and culture with Buddhism in it. Perhaps you need to think about issues in front another point of view.
If you wanted to make a point, no matter how extreme, it's fine, but we find it easier to believe you are a raging hater who speaks with little evidence and coherence, if your spelling and grammar is this appalling.
Lastly, your argument is unsupported, invalid, and extremely offensive to those who are from a communist state. By claiming Atheism is evil, you are transgressing the fundamental values of a Christian.
Please, next time, think before posting, and calm down.
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4/27/2014 11:18:39 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/27/2014 4:05:48 AM, Justpassingby wrote:
At 4/21/2014 6:58:41 PM, jh1234l wrote:
Atheism leads to communism. China is communist and there official state religion is atheism. Atheism is false (Evilution is wrong, too. Proof here:http://www.debate.org...), as communism is evil. Communists kill the equivalent of 20 Christians (150 atheists) per day for not worshipping darwin by killing kittens.

China does fund churches but they spread blasmephy. Government run Chinese churches idolize coconut crisps and state that Jesus was a SOCIALIST who gave money to POOR PEOPLE!

Hmm.. . Rather extreme argument. First of all, China claims to be communist, yet if you had enough knowledge, as in if you lived there or worked there, you would understand that the economy and the society operates nothing like the communism you talk of. China, as told by the government, is a "Communist" country, ran like a "Chinese Socialism", which means the government does whatever they see fit, under rather pushy barriers.
By simply claiming Atheism is false... Well, Atheism isn't a religion. It isn't a fact. It is simply what people believe, and that is there is no divine beings and deities. Isn't this country supposed to have free-speech? Your argument incorrect, and unsupported.
You also generalize Communists. What is a communist? To honest, I can safely tell you that most of the Chinese population who are educated and rational do not believe in Communism. I do have to admit that saying false things officially is one of the things China does. But that is a different question.
I am really lost about the killing. That sentence made no sense.
China does not fund churches and spread blasphemy. True, if you look at it from a extreme Christian's point of view. China went through thousands of years with absolutely no information regarding Christianity. They had their own religion and beliefs for a very long time, only until recently that changed. Most people in China do not know of Christianity, nor do they care. If I asked you to worship the Buddha, would you? I take it as no. Then you are blasphemous if I were an extreme Buddhist.
Christianity has little place in China, as they have a history and culture without it, just like you have no history and culture with Buddhism in it. Perhaps you need to think about issues in front another point of view.
If you wanted to make a point, no matter how extreme, it's fine, but we find it easier to believe you are a raging hater who speaks with little evidence and coherence, if your spelling and grammar is this appalling.
Lastly, your argument is unsupported, invalid, and extremely offensive to those who are from a communist state. By claiming Atheism is evil, you are transgressing the fundamental values of a Christian.
Please, next time, think before posting, and calm down.
Thanks
The Random Guy

You know that I was being sarcastic, right? The coconut crisps one is a chinese pun, and the killing one was based on how some people believe that people who believe in their religion are worth more than people who don't.
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4/27/2014 11:48:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/22/2014 11:55:19 PM, intellectuallyprimitive wrote:

You do know he's trolling, right? He always does this... he's actually a pretty intelligent atheist, himself.
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4/27/2014 6:51:53 PM
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At 4/27/2014 11:50:15 AM, Romanii wrote:
At 4/22/2014 10:08:27 PM, Lordgrae wrote:

He's trolling lol. Jh does this all the time...

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4/27/2014 7:34:14 PM
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At 4/27/2014 11:18:39 AM, jh1234l wrote:
At 4/27/2014 4:05:48 AM, Justpassingby wrote:
At 4/21/2014 6:58:41 PM, jh1234l wrote:
Atheism leads to communism. China is communist and there official state religion is atheism. Atheism is false (Evilution is wrong, too. Proof here:http://www.debate.org...), as communism is evil. Communists kill the equivalent of 20 Christians (150 atheists) per day for not worshipping darwin by killing kittens.

China does fund churches but they spread blasmephy. Government run Chinese churches idolize coconut crisps and state that Jesus was a SOCIALIST who gave money to POOR PEOPLE!

Hmm.. . Rather extreme argument. First of all, China claims to be communist, yet if you had enough knowledge, as in if you lived there or worked there, you would understand that the economy and the society operates nothing like the communism you talk of. China, as told by the government, is a "Communist" country, ran like a "Chinese Socialism", which means the government does whatever they see fit, under rather pushy barriers.
By simply claiming Atheism is false... Well, Atheism isn't a religion. It isn't a fact. It is simply what people believe, and that is there is no divine beings and deities. Isn't this country supposed to have free-speech? Your argument incorrect, and unsupported.
You also generalize Communists. What is a communist? To honest, I can safely tell you that most of the Chinese population who are educated and rational do not believe in Communism. I do have to admit that saying false things officially is one of the things China does. But that is a different question.
I am really lost about the killing. That sentence made no sense.
China does not fund churches and spread blasphemy. True, if you look at it from a extreme Christian's point of view. China went through thousands of years with absolutely no information regarding Christianity. They had their own religion and beliefs for a very long time, only until recently that changed. Most people in China do not know of Christianity, nor do they care. If I asked you to worship the Buddha, would you? I take it as no. Then you are blasphemous if I were an extreme Buddhist.
Christianity has little place in China, as they have a history and culture without it, just like you have no history and culture with Buddhism in it. Perhaps you need to think about issues in front another point of view.
If you wanted to make a point, no matter how extreme, it's fine, but we find it easier to believe you are a raging hater who speaks with little evidence and coherence, if your spelling and grammar is this appalling.
Lastly, your argument is unsupported, invalid, and extremely offensive to those who are from a communist state. By claiming Atheism is evil, you are transgressing the fundamental values of a Christian.
Please, next time, think before posting, and calm down.
Thanks
The Random Guy

You know that I was being sarcastic, right? The coconut crisps one is a chinese pun, and the killing one was based on how some people believe that people who believe in their religion are worth more than people who don't.

I half expected the sarcasm. What you are saying is very true, there are people who actually believe what you said at the start. These people are not decent people, if you ask me. I would hope that they will come in here and read what everyone thinks, and perhaps change their views a little.
Wouldn't that just make the world a tiny bit more pleasant?
By the way, that was a really good impersonation!
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4/27/2014 7:39:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/22/2014 10:08:27 PM, Lordgrae wrote:

I hope that this is a troll or sarcasm. I really, really hope that. I will respond to it still, in the possibility that it is not.

No he's dead serious.

Everyone knows correlation = causation. Didn't they teach you that in statistics?