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4/28/2014 8:49:25 PM
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Scientific errors in Sacred books proves religion is man made:

I am listing scientific errors in sacred books.Read web links below:

http://rationalwiki.org...

http://wikiislam.net...'an

http://www.evilbible.com...

http://atheistfoundation.org.au...

http://www.dailysquib.co.uk...

http://atheistfoundation.org.au...

In Bible and other sacred books earth is described as being flat. Scientifically it is wrong. This point is further explained in the link below:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...

Religion gives inaccurate estimates of creation of cosmos for example six days. The correct age of universe is 13.978 billion years. See links below

http://en.wikipedia.org...

Failed bible prophecies proof :

http://rationalwiki.org...

Angels Are Not Real:

Here is a reference to the features of angels :
http://angels.about.com...

Religions claim that angels are not made of matter. Now to produce a sound audible to human ear, have a memory and speak to humans, you need something made from matter. Also in religions it is claimed that angels emit light from within. The process is called Bioluminescence. For this process you also need a body made from matter because without chemical reaction Bioluminescence is hard to imagine. Moreover they are claiming that angels have no ability to decay and yet produces light. Light is made of photons. A photon is produced whenever an electron in a higher-than-normal orbit falls back to its normal orbit. Matter has electrons.

http://en.wikipedia.org...

how photons are created
http://science.howstuffworks.com...

Angels dont have bodies.Then how are they producing sounds that can be heard by human ear.

Only few individuals have claimed to see angels.The idea sounds absurd because human beings have similar functioning eyes & ears. Also angels seem to disappear in some outer world nobody has seen. Even light which is the fastest known thing will take years to travel the whole outer space.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...


God Really Contact Prophets or were they hallucinating or telling lies:


Hallucination can be due to a number of conditions and stress. Now a days if a person claims to be a prophet or to talk to God and angels then the doctor will propbably put him on medication. See the below web links:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

http://en.wikipedia.org...

Sin, Good and free will :

All religions have concept of sin & good. If you do this God will be happy and if you do that god will be annoyed.Let me give you example. Suppose you created a robot & programmed robot to blink a light at all times .Now you come and tell robot to stopp the light without changing his programming. The robot will not obey because you programmed robot to blink at all times. Now let me come to the point. If religion says Human beings were created by God then if they are doing something bad it is their programming which god has himself done. Then how can god say that you are doing something wrong. The concept of sin can not co- exist at the same time as the concept that God created humans. A lot of religions have forecasts by God about the future. This would mean that God knows what will happen in future. If God exactly knows what will happen in future then he must have programmed everything in this world or he controls human beings. And if he has programmed everything in this world or is controlling humans then how can he say that if you do this , it will be a sin . Human genetics also plays a lot of part in human decision making . Identical twins raised in different families are very similar in their attitudes and behaviour. Human being can not control what genes he will inherit . A human being has little control over the environment in which he will be raised also. The two determinants of human behaviour : genes, environment. This means that the concept of sin and good is not Gods creations but only a creation of the human mind to control other humans.

twins story of how similar they are
http://science.howstuffworks.com...

Our brain has already decided to move well before we have a conscious intention to move. There have been attempts to challenge it but even today after many experiments , it is still accepted that subconscious (part of the mind of which one is not fully aware) decision making has a major role if not not the sole role . See the links below for details:

http://en.wikipedia.org...

http://www.newscientist.com...

http://atheistfoundation.org.au...

Proof of big bang theory:

http://www.bbc.com...

God of gaps , Universe created itself out of nothing :

Total energy of the universe is zero. Negative energy of gravity balances out the positive energy of matter. Only such a universe can begin from nothing. The laws of physics allow a universe to begin from nothing. You don't need a deity. Quantum fluctuations can produce a universe. Some scientists argue that since laws of physics exist then there must be someone who created them( they dont give any evidence of this except relying on the statement that since it is a very complex system it must have been made by someone else.). Anyways what most agree with is that there is no involvement of a deity to run the universe . The universe pretty much runs by itself. See links below:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk...

http://bigthink.com...

http://rationalwiki.org...

People in past used to believe in volcano Gods because they could not explain volcanoes. These assumptions were wrong. They try to fill gaps in knowledge with superstition. read web link below:

http://rationalwiki.org...

Conventional theists say God is involved in running universe. Universe has been proven by science to create out of nothing without any direct involovement of a deity. They criticize irreligion that it is confused ideology. Conventional theists themselves have a confused ideology. At one point they say that God made everything. If you ask them who made God .They usually say they dont know. If something ends with dont know then it is better to let science search the answers.

Conclusion:

Humans tell lies. How can you be sure of religion if it only depends on the testimony of few individuals. As far God is concerned, theology tries to explain things with superstition. There was existence before humans and there is a reason of existence of everything but that reason & existence is not super natural and is explainable by science. Universe creates without deity. Cloning & living cell are made by scientists without help of deities. Impossible today , will not be impossible in future. Man tried to explain things with superstition, that volcanoes are God. Scientific realism is best answer.
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4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM
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Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.
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4/28/2014 9:20:21 PM
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At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

I am an atheist, but just as an FYI, you should also tackle apologetics' arguments with this and also label it as the Christian God.
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4/28/2014 9:21:12 PM
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Evolutionary Origin of religion :

Increased brain size was beginning , then came tool use, language

development,simple morality and group living. Early religious beliefs were

derived from fear for example burying rituals to take care of loved

ones. Humans always wanted to please things they were afraid from. They

would call anything as God that they were afraid from or considered

superior. Read link below :

http://en.wikipedia.org...

Organized religion traces its roots to the neolithic revolution that began 11,000 years . Before that period people used to have different fear . For example a person who fears dark, can create a dark God or may be a ghost in his mind. That is believing in something individually without a commanding figure like a prophet , priest etc. Such behaviour stems from fear and to please whatever they consider superior. Burying rituals and grave gods can be type of such behaviour. There is no evidence that God upto this point made contact with any human and the following reference explains why humans have such a behaviour

http://articles.latimes.com...

People nowadays dont even believe in such things because they have grown past it.
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4/28/2014 9:23:24 PM
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At 4/28/2014 9:20:21 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

I am an atheist, but just as an FYI, you should also tackle apologetics' arguments with this and also label it as the Christian God.

Hey thanks . If you like my topic Tell your friends on Debate.org
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4/28/2014 9:32:09 PM
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At 4/28/2014 9:20:21 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

I am an atheist, but just as an FYI, you should also tackle apologetics' arguments with this and also label it as the Christian God.

When i created a previous forum topic and gave these arguments Neutral could not answer in the end.
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4/28/2014 9:33:23 PM
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At 4/28/2014 9:32:09 PM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/28/2014 9:20:21 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

I am an atheist, but just as an FYI, you should also tackle apologetics' arguments with this and also label it as the Christian God.

When i created a previous forum topic and gave these arguments Neutral could not answer in the end.

Ignore Neutral, he is just a fool that complains about atheists with no real support for his claims.
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4/28/2014 9:48:39 PM
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At 4/28/2014 9:33:23 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 9:32:09 PM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/28/2014 9:20:21 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

I am an atheist, but just as an FYI, you should also tackle apologetics' arguments with this and also label it as the Christian God.

When i created a previous forum topic and gave these arguments Neutral could not answer in the end.

Ignore Neutral, he is just a fool that complains about atheists with no real support for his claims.

Seriously i think neutral is suffering from war trauma. Should i challenge neutral to a debate. Who is the best member on this website to challenge to a debate. Are there any other websites to post this topic.
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4/28/2014 9:54:49 PM
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At 4/28/2014 9:33:23 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 9:32:09 PM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/28/2014 9:20:21 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

I am an atheist, but just as an FYI, you should also tackle apologetics' arguments with this and also label it as the Christian God.

When i created a previous forum topic and gave these arguments Neutral could not answer in the end.

Ignore Neutral, he is just a fool that complains about atheists with no real support for his claims.

I like your topics and debates . So i have added you as a friend.
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4/28/2014 10:39:22 PM
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you do realize the links you give are from proatheism sites. i'm sure they are fair. if i find one illogical or decietful lie or scientific fail. will you change your profile pic to a simple black with white text saying only "GOD EXISTS"?
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4/28/2014 10:43:51 PM
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How childish! As if anyone needed all that crap at this late date. It's more like a plea from the OP to hold up his waffling convictions. Grow up!
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4/28/2014 10:58:07 PM
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At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

if i find one obvious error in your post will you change your profile pic, to a max size allowed pic, of a black square with white letters spelling out GOD EXISTS. for one month

this error being illogical, unsupported by scientific observations, or interpretations agreed upon by the majority of academic scholars?
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4/28/2014 11:08:09 PM
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At 4/28/2014 10:39:22 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
you do realize the links you give are from proatheism sites. i'm sure they are fair. if i find one illogical or decietful lie or scientific fail. will you change your profile pic to a simple black with white text saying only "GOD EXISTS"?

The references of sacred books can be checked from independent sources like librarries. Also ther scientific arguments can be searched on google on many news websites and also in science books.

There are links from other sources also which are not proatheism. For example nytimes. dailymail.co.uk, www.newscientist.com, bigthink.com/, http://www.telegraph.co.uk..., bbc.co.uk

The website http://bigthink.com... is not proatheist . In fact Michio Kku who wrote in it is not atheist.

I have explained the sin and good concept and how wrong it is. Religions just use it as a means of recruiting followers.

Religion and God are two separate things. Man used to believe in gods before organized religion. These ancient gods were man made idols or naturally occuring processes. See how man made gods:

http://articles.latimes.com...

volcano gods . People nowadays dont even believe in such things because they have grown past it.
http://en.wikipedia.org...(mythology)

http://en.wikipedia.org...(deity)

There is no doubt that there was existence before the universe . But that existence is not supernatural. It is only natural. Whenever something is beyond Human understanding , humans claim that they are supernatural. Just because something existed before you does not mean it is supernatural. Your ancestor existed before you, donosaurs existed before you. They were all natural.

Also read the following debates about Jesus and virgin birth.

http://www.debate.org...

http://www.debate.org...
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4/28/2014 11:09:01 PM
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At 4/28/2014 10:58:07 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

if i find one obvious error in your post will you change your profile pic, to a max size allowed pic, of a black square with white letters spelling out GOD EXISTS. for one month

this error being illogical, unsupported by scientific observations, or interpretations agreed upon by the majority of academic scholars?

how about if i find 2 or 3. how about 6? I'm not talking about any word gamss or sly loop hole. I'm talking about the jist of your claims. I think you are a brain washed sheep cut and pasting shtuff you don't have any comprihension of.

do you agree?
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4/28/2014 11:35:51 PM
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At 4/28/2014 11:09:01 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 10:58:07 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

if i find one obvious error in your post will you change your profile pic, to a max size allowed pic, of a black square with white letters spelling out GOD EXISTS. for one month

this error being illogical, unsupported by scientific observations, or interpretations agreed upon by the majority of academic scholars?

how about if i find 2 or 3. how about 6? I'm not talking about any word gamss or sly loop hole. I'm talking about the jist of your claims. I think you are a brain washed sheep cut and pasting shtuff you don't have any comprihension of.

do you agree?

Whats the use in believing in religion if it is in the hands of clerics who are just humans. Human virtually control religious interpretations. Religions have changed their position regarding scientific topics many times. Clerics have been convicted of crimes also. Here is a sample

list:http://en.wikipedia.org...
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4/28/2014 11:42:41 PM
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At 4/28/2014 11:09:01 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 10:58:07 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

if i find one obvious error in your post will you change your profile pic, to a max size allowed pic, of a black square with white letters spelling out GOD EXISTS. for one month

this error being illogical, unsupported by scientific observations, or interpretations agreed upon by the majority of academic scholars?

how about if i find 2 or 3. how about 6? I'm not talking about any word gamss or sly loop hole. I'm talking about the jist of your claims. I think you are a brain washed sheep cut and pasting shtuff you don't have any comprihension of.

do you agree?

You are deist . Personally i have nothing against desists.

I believe that whatever exists is natural. Supernatural is not the word to describe it. Humans beings design robots. They define rules of the robot and even create them. Its not complicated to decide that human beings are not supernatural. Even if a thing exists before you it does not mean it is supernatural.
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4/28/2014 11:48:23 PM
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At 4/28/2014 11:42:41 PM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:09:01 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 10:58:07 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

if i find one obvious error in your post will you change your profile pic, to a max size allowed pic, of a black square with white letters sptryelling out GOD EXISTS. for one month

this error being illogical, unsupported by scientific observations, or interpretations agreed upon by the majority of academic scholars?

how about if i find 2 or 3. how about 6? I'm not talking about any word gamss or sly loop hole. I'm talking about the jist of your claims. I think you are a brain washed sheep cut and pasting shtuff you don't have any comprihension of.

do you agree?

You are deist . Personally i have nothing against desists.

I believe that whatever exists is natural. Supernatural is not the word to describe it. Humans beings design robots. They define rules of the robot and even create them. Its not complicated to decide that human beings are not supernatural. Even if a thing exists before you it does not mean it is supernatural.

deist is my intellectual stance. but it is not a far cry to call a nontemporal, omnipresent, intellegent being God. where goes from there is a matter of the heart.
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4/28/2014 11:54:43 PM
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At 4/28/2014 11:48:23 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:42:41 PM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:09:01 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 10:58:07 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

if i find one obvious error in your post will you change your profile pic, to a max size allowed pic, of a black square with white letters sptryelling out GOD EXISTS. for one month

this error being illogical, unsupported by scientific observations, or interpretations agreed upon by the majority of academic scholars?

how about if i find 2 or 3. how about 6? I'm not talking about any word gamss or sly loop hole. I'm talking about the jist of your claims. I think you are a brain washed sheep cut and pasting shtuff you don't have any comprihension of.

do you agree?

You are deist . Personally i have nothing against desists.

I believe that whatever exists is natural. Supernatural is not the word to describe it. Humans beings design robots. They define rules of the robot and even create them. Its not complicated to decide that human beings are not supernatural. Even if a thing exists before you it does not mean it is supernatural.

deist is my intellectual stance. but it is not a far cry to call a nontemporal, omnipresent, intellegent being God. where goes from there is a matter of the heart.

As i said scientific realism is the need of hour. Absolutism is the hallmark of a closed mind. I believe no one is perfect : me included. Thats why i adopt scientific realism to answer the questions.
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4/29/2014 12:00:23 AM
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At 4/28/2014 11:54:43 PM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:48:23 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:42:41 PM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:09:01 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 10:58:07 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

if i find one obvious error in your post will you change your profile pic, to a max size allowed pic, of a black square with white letters sptryelling out GOD EXISTS. for one month

this error being illogical, unsupported by scientific observations, or interpretations agreed upon by the majority of academic scholars?

how about if i find 2 or 3. how about 6? I'm not talking about any word gamss or sly loop hole. I'm talking about the jist of your claims. I think you are a brain washed sheep cut and pasting shtuff you don't have any comprihension of.

do you agree?

You are deist . Personally i have nothing against desists.

I believe that whatever exists is natural. Supernatural is not the word to describe it. Humans beings design robots. They define rules of the robot and even create them. Its not complicated to decide that human beings are not supernatural. Even if a thing exists before you it does not mean it is supernatural.

deist is my intellectual stance. but it is not a far cry to call a nontemporal, omnipresent, intellegent being God. where goes from there is a matter of the heart.

As i said scientific realism is the need of hour. Absolutism is the hallmark of a closed mind. I believe no one is perfect : me included. Thats why i adopt scientific realism to answer the questions.

so you use scientific realism to answer this question, but not the other questions in your life or those things directly effecting your actions. freaking genius
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4/29/2014 12:00:27 AM
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At 4/28/2014 11:48:23 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:42:41 PM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:09:01 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 10:58:07 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

if i find one obvious error in your post will you change your profile pic, to a max size allowed pic, of a black square with white letters sptryelling out GOD EXISTS. for one month

this error being illogical, unsupported by scientific observations, or interpretations agreed upon by the majority of academic scholars?

how about if i find 2 or 3. how about 6? I'm not talking about any word gamss or sly loop hole. I'm talking about the jist of your claims. I think you are a brain washed sheep cut and pasting shtuff you don't have any comprihension of.

do you agree?

You are deist . Personally i have nothing against desists.

I believe that whatever exists is natural. Supernatural is not the word to describe it. Humans beings design robots. They define rules of the robot and even create them. Its not complicated to decide that human beings are not supernatural. Even if a thing exists before you it does not mean it is supernatural.

deist is my intellectual stance. but it is not a far cry to call a nontemporal, omnipresent, intellegent being God. where goes from there is a matter of the heart.

Abraham lincoln was a skeptic and deist. He abolished slavery and that should be praised. Personally i think religion is a form of slavery. First tribal chiefs have called themselves God, then Kings and then came a new method ; people started calling themselves Prophets. There is great evidence that religion has been used to promote slavery. Even prophets had slaves.
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4/29/2014 12:45:01 AM
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At 4/29/2014 12:00:23 AM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:54:43 PM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:48:23 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:42:41 PM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:09:01 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 10:58:07 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

if i find one obvious error in your post will you change your profile pic, to a max size allowed pic, of a black square with white letters sptryelling out GOD EXISTS. for one month

this error being illogical, unsupported by scientific observations, or interpretations agreed upon by the majority of academic scholars?

how about if i find 2 or 3. how about 6? I'm not talking about any word gamss or sly loop hole. I'm talking about the jist of your claims. I think you are a brain washed sheep cut and pasting shtuff you don't have any comprihension of.

do you agree?

You are deist . Personally i have nothing against desists.

I believe that whatever exists is natural. Supernatural is not the word to describe it. Humans beings design robots. They define rules of the robot and even create them. Its not complicated to decide that human beings are not supernatural. Even if a thing exists before you it does not mean it is supernatural.

deist is my intellectual stance. but it is not a far cry to call a nontemporal, omnipresent, intellegent being God. where goes from there is a matter of the heart.

As i said scientific realism is the need of hour. Absolutism is the hallmark of a closed mind. I believe no one is perfect : me included. Thats why i adopt scientific realism to answer the questions.

so you use scientific realism to answer this question, but not the other questions in your life or those things directly effecting your actions. freaking genius
You are free to post your arguments.

Astronomical data indicates that the universe began 13.9 billion years ago but the earth was not formed until 4.5 billion years ago. Why would a deity wait 9 billion years after creating the universe to create the earth? And why would He wait another 4.5 billion years to create humans, if we are really deity's ultimate reason for creating the universe. Stephen Hawkins has proved that for creation of universe a deity is not required. Scientists have not been able to challenge it so far. Only some scientists say that since laws of physics exist, then there is someone who created them. Everything is governed by laws and even if you suppose for a moment you happen to find a deity. Do you think that deity will be without laws. Everthing has to operate in some way.One thing I can't understand about conventional theists is that they say a deity created everything, who created deity they don't know. They are supposing that some deity is all by itself. Then why can't they accept the present existence. Why do they need something supernatural. Even if something existed before you , it does not mean it is supernatural. Human beings can clone other animals and even humans by their intelligence. Does this mean that human beings are supernatural even though they used their wisdom to do so.
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4/29/2014 12:50:38 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 11:09:01 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 10:58:07 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

if i find one obvious error in your post will you change your profile pic, to a max size allowed pic, of a black square with white letters spelling out GOD EXISTS. for one month

this error being illogical, unsupported by scientific observations, or interpretations agreed upon by the majority of academic scholars?

how about if i find 2 or 3. how about 6? I'm not talking about any word gamss or sly loop hole. I'm talking about the jist of your claims. I think you are a brain washed sheep cut and pasting shtuff you don't have any comprihension of.

do you agree?
Humans beings have designed a living cell. They have even cloned others. And this also shows that there is no such thing as souls. Religious leaders strongly opposed such moves because that would mean that people will not listen to them anymore. Religion is very anti progress.
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4/29/2014 1:00:09 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 12:50:38 AM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:09:01 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 10:58:07 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

if i find one obvious error in your post will you change your profile pic, to a max size allowed pic, of a black square with white letters spelling out GOD EXISTS. for one month

this error being illogical, unsupported by scientific observations, or interpretations agreed upon by the majority of academic scholars?

how about if i find 2 or 3. how about 6? I'm not talking about any word gamss or sly loop hole. I'm talking about the jist of your claims. I think you are a brain washed sheep cut and pasting shtuff you don't have any comprihension of.

do you agree?
Humans beings have designed a living cell. They have even cloned others. And this also shows that there is no such thing as souls. Religious leaders strongly opposed such moves because that would mean that people will not listen to them anymore. Religion is very anti progress.

dude seriously, mankind has not made a living cell from scratch, without using the biggest parts already made by the creator. not from chemical scratch. man can't even make a working self replicating RNA from scratch. stop spewing atheist bullshtuff.

again if you making claims like that accept my challenge
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4/29/2014 1:02:32 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 12:45:01 AM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/29/2014 12:00:23 AM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:54:43 PM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:48:23 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:42:41 PM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:09:01 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 10:58:07 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

if i find one obvious error in your post will you change your profile pic, to a max size allowed pic, of a black square with white letters sptryelling out GOD EXISTS. for one month

this error being illogical, unsupported by scientific observations, or interpretations agreed upon by the majority of academic scholars?

how about if i find 2 or 3. how about 6? I'm not talking about any word gamss or sly loop hole. I'm talking about the jist of your claims. I think you are a brain washed sheep cut and pasting shtuff you don't have any comprihension of.

do you agree?

You are deist . Personally i have nothing against desists.

I believe that whatever exists is natural. Supernatural is not the word to describe it. Humans beings design robots. They define rules of the robot and even create them. Its not complicated to decide that human beings are not supernatural. Even if a thing exists before you it does not mean it is supernatural.

deist is my intellectual stance. but it is not a far cry to call a nontemporal, omnipresent, intellegent being God. where goes from there is a matter of the heart.

As i said scientific realism is the need of hour. Absolutism is the hallmark of a closed mind. I believe no one is perfect : me included. Thats why i adopt scientific realism to answer the questions.

so you use scientific realism to answer this question, but not the other questions in your life or those things directly effecting your actions. freaking genius
You are free to post your arguments.

Astronomical data indicates that the universe began 13.9 billion years ago but the earth was not formed until 4.5 billion years ago. Why would a deity wait 9 billion years after creating the universe to create the earth? And why would He wait another 4.5 billion years to create humans, if we are really deity's ultimate reason for creating the universe. Stephen Hawkins has proved that for creation of universe a deity is not required. Scientists have not been able to challenge it so far. Only some scientists say that since laws of physics exist, then there is someone who created them. Everything is governed by laws and even if you suppose for a moment you happen to find a deity. Do you think that deity will be without laws. Everthing has to operate in some way.One thing I can't understand about conventional theists is that they say a deity created everything, who created deity they don't know. They are supposing that some deity is all by itself. Then why can't they accept the present existence. Why do they need something supernatural. Even if something existed before you , it does not mean it is supernatural. Human beings can clone other animals and even humans by their intelligence. Does this mean that human beings are supernatural even though they used their wisdom to do so.

dude srsly accept my challenge.
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4/29/2014 1:15:35 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 8:49:25 PM, debateuser wrote:
Scientific errors in Sacred books proves religion is man made:

I am listing scientific errors in sacred books.Read web links below:

http://rationalwiki.org...

http://wikiislam.net...'an

http://www.evilbible.com...

http://atheistfoundation.org.au...

http://www.dailysquib.co.uk...

http://atheistfoundation.org.au...


In Bible and other sacred books earth is described as being flat. Scientifically it is wrong. This point is further explained in the link below:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...



Interesting. So, this poster has previously rejected my claims that atheism is merely the rejection of religion and that it is driven by its own indoctrination program.

And what does he begin his proof with? Right ... a series of atheist organizations that, continue to get even the basics wrong. The article about photons is interesting, and, in proof of point, no religion claims that angles are MADE of light, merely that they are shrouded in light when they have appeared - sometimes. So the article about angles, fascinating and correct as it may be, is aimed, as per usual, at a straw man position educated by a warped education process that seems to excel at nothing more than getting religion wrong.

Having previously pointed this out to this exact poster, I am hardly shocked to see the same argument come up again in a display of sheer obstinacy.

If science is going to disprove something, it usually begins with accurately framing what it is disproving, and in that is something atheists, and their sites so dancingly listed, fail to do with aplomb.

Its a bit like attempting to prove the sky is not purple. A pretty easy challenge.

The look of horror and confusion on your opponents face when he reminds you, "Heh stud, the sky is blue ... WTF are you even talking about?"

To then go back into the same rehearsed monologue about why the sky is not purple again?

That would indeed by the silliness of atheism, which is to be applauded for its singular ability to disprove faulty claims about religion.
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4/29/2014 1:30:22 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Interesting. So, this poster has previously rejected my claims that atheism is merely the rejection of religion and that it is driven by its own indoctrination program.

And what does he begin his proof with? Right ... a series of atheist organizations that, continue to get even the basics wrong. The article about photons is interesting, and, in proof of point, no religion claims that angles are MADE of light, merely that they are shrouded in light when they have appeared - sometimes. So the article about angles, fascinating and correct as it may be, is aimed, as per usual, at a straw man position educated by a warped education process that seems to excel at nothing more than getting religion wrong.

Having previously pointed this out to this exact poster, I am hardly shocked to see the same argument come up again in a display of sheer obstinacy.

If science is going to disprove something, it usually begins with accurately framing what it is disproving, and in that is something atheists, and their sites so dancingly listed, fail to do with aplomb.

Its a bit like attempting to prove the sky is not purple. A pretty easy challenge.

The look of horror and confusion on your opponents face when he reminds you, "Heh stud, the sky is blue ... WTF are you even talking about?"

To then go back into the same rehearsed monologue about why the sky is not purple again?

That would indeed by the silliness of atheism, which is to be applauded for its singular ability to disprove faulty claims about religion.

Get your facts straight .Islam says they are made from light. Christianity say they emit light from within. Without a body that is not possible.You say they are shrouded by light. The sun which emits light , is made from matter. If angels are not made of matter then they cant really be emitting light in the first place. Also as per religion angels can speak. Sound itself is associated with the vibration or disturbance of matter. See link below

http://en.wikipedia.org...
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4/29/2014 1:34:38 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:15:35 AM, neutral wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:49:25 PM, debateuser wrote:
Scientific errors in Sacred books proves religion is man made:

I am listing scientific errors in sacred books.Read web links below:

http://rationalwiki.org...

http://wikiislam.net...'an

http://www.evilbible.com...

http://atheistfoundation.org.au...

http://www.dailysquib.co.uk...

http://atheistfoundation.org.au...


In Bible and other sacred books earth is described as being flat. Scientifically it is wrong. This point is further explained in the link below:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...



Interesting. So, this poster has previously rejected my claims that atheism is merely the rejection of religion and that it is driven by its own indoctrination program.

And what does he begin his proof with? Right ... a series of atheist organizations that, continue to get even the basics wrong. The article about photons is interesting, and, in proof of point, no religion claims that angles are MADE of light, merely that they are shrouded in light when they have appeared - sometimes. So the article about angles, fascinating and correct as it may be, is aimed, as per usual, at a straw man position educated by a warped education process that seems to excel at nothing more than getting religion wrong.

Having previously pointed this out to this exact poster, I am hardly shocked to see the same argument come up again in a display of sheer obstinacy.

If science is going to disprove something, it usually begins with accurately framing what it is disproving, and in that is something atheists, and their sites so dancingly listed, fail to do with aplomb.

Its a bit like attempting to prove the sky is not purple. A pretty easy challenge.

The look of horror and confusion on your opponents face when he reminds you, "Heh stud, the sky is blue ... WTF are you even talking about?"

To then go back into the same rehearsed monologue about why the sky is not purple again?

That would indeed by the silliness of atheism, which is to be applauded for its singular ability to disprove faulty claims about religion.

The references of sacred books can be checked from independent sources like librarries. Also ther scientific arguments can be searched on google on many news websites and also in science books.
There are links from other sources also which are not proatheism. For example nytimes. dailymail.co.uk, www.newscientist.com, bigthink.com/, http://www.telegraph.co.uk......, bbc.co.uk

The website http://bigthink.com...... is not proatheist . In fact Michio Kku who wrote in it is not atheist.
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4/29/2014 1:37:31 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/29/2014 1:02:32 AM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/29/2014 12:45:01 AM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/29/2014 12:00:23 AM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:54:43 PM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:48:23 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:42:41 PM, debateuser wrote:
At 4/28/2014 11:09:01 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 10:58:07 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 4/28/2014 8:50:50 PM, debateuser wrote:
Please comment on this topic. I would love to hear your comments.

if i find one obvious error in your post will you change your profile pic, to a max size allowed pic, of a black square with white letters sptryelling out GOD EXISTS. for one month

this error being illogical, unsupported by scientific observations, or interpretations agreed upon by the majority of academic scholars?

how about if i find 2 or 3. how about 6? I'm not talking about any word gamss or sly loop hole. I'm talking about the jist of your claims. I think you are a brain washed sheep cut and pasting shtuff you don't have any comprihension of.

do you agree?

You are deist . Personally i have nothing against desists.

I believe that whatever exists is natural. Supernatural is not the word to describe it. Humans beings design robots. They define rules of the robot and even create them. Its not complicated to decide that human beings are not supernatural. Even if a thing exists before you it does not mean it is supernatural.

deist is my intellectual stance. but it is not a far cry to call a nontemporal, omnipresent, intellegent being God. where goes from there is a matter of the heart.

As i said scientific realism is the need of hour. Absolutism is the hallmark of a closed mind. I believe no one is perfect : me included. Thats why i adopt scientific realism to answer the questions.

so you use scientific realism to answer this question, but not the other questions in your life or those things directly effecting your actions. freaking genius
You are free to post your arguments.

Astronomical data indicates that the universe began 13.9 billion years ago but the earth was not formed until 4.5 billion years ago. Why would a deity wait 9 billion years after creating the universe to create the earth? And why would He wait another 4.5 billion years to create humans, if we are really deity's ultimate reason for creating the universe. Stephen Hawkins has proved that for creation of universe a deity is not required. Scientists have not been able to challenge it so far. Only some scientists say that since laws of physics exist, then there is someone who created them. Everything is governed by laws and even if you suppose for a moment you happen to find a deity. Do you think that deity will be without laws. Everthing has to operate in some way.One thing I can't understand about conventional theists is that they say a deity created everything, who created deity they don't know. They are supposing that some deity is all by itself. Then why can't they accept the present existence. Why do they need something supernatural. Even if something existed before you , it does not mean it is supernatural. Human beings can clone other animals and even humans by their intelligence. Does this mean that human beings are supernatural even though they used their wisdom to do so.

dude srsly accept my challenge.

You can post your arguments here. No body is stopping you. I will try to answer them and if i find that they are better then scientific realism requires that i appreciate them.
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4/29/2014 1:39:42 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Hey everybody .Post on this topic even if you disagree.
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4/29/2014 1:42:11 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/28/2014 10:43:51 PM, monty1 wrote:
How childish! As if anyone needed all that crap at this late date. It's more like a plea from the OP to hold up his waffling convictions. Grow up!

Its okay to disagree. Nobody is stopping you. Once again i am thankful for your comments.
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