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5/1/2014 9:52:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I am a scientist. I am religious. I believe in God. I do not believe in Young Earth Creationism. I am open to change my belief if presented with irrefutable evidence. Convince me of YEC.
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5/1/2014 10:02:00 PM
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That strikes me as a silly challenge. There's very little propositions that have "irrefutable" evidence" in their favor.
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5/1/2014 10:05:35 PM
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At 5/1/2014 10:02:00 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
That strikes me as a silly challenge. There's very little propositions that have "irrefutable" evidence" in their favor.

Any evidence that i cannot reasonably refute without falling into logical fallacy.
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5/1/2014 10:13:10 PM
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At 5/1/2014 10:05:35 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 5/1/2014 10:02:00 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
That strikes me as a silly challenge. There's very little propositions that have "irrefutable" evidence" in their favor.

Any evidence that i cannot reasonably refute without falling into logical fallacy.

The most common one I run into is the Helium diffusion rate studies by Humphries et al.

The studies that are in non-peer reviewed journals and stand along against a quick comparable literature search in Web of Science (Helium Diffusion Zircon ~ 100 results, all giving millions of years)
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5/1/2014 10:13:45 PM
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Dog help the world if precocious teenagers like you can start calling themselves scientists.

And how do I know? Because only a teenager would ask such a dumb a5s question as that. Go play with your Mattel junior scientist lab.
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5/1/2014 10:33:50 PM
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At 5/1/2014 10:13:45 PM, monty1 wrote:
Dog help the world if precocious teenagers like you can start calling themselves scientists.

And how do I know? Because only a teenager would ask such a dumb a5s question as that. Go play with your Mattel junior scientist lab.

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5/1/2014 10:40:16 PM
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At 5/1/2014 10:13:45 PM, monty1 wrote:
Dog help the world if precocious teenagers like you can start calling themselves scientists.

And how do I know? Because only a teenager would ask such a dumb a5s question as that. Go play with your Mattel junior scientist lab.

Is this not a legitimate question?
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5/1/2014 10:41:59 PM
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At 5/1/2014 9:52:25 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
I am a scientist. I am religious. I believe in God. I do not believe in Young Earth Creationism. I am open to change my belief if presented with irrefutable evidence. Convince me of YEC.
Which god(s)?

Your supportive evidence is?
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5/1/2014 10:46:36 PM
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At 5/1/2014 10:41:59 PM, Composer wrote:
At 5/1/2014 9:52:25 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
I am a scientist. I am religious. I believe in God. I do not believe in Young Earth Creationism. I am open to change my belief if presented with irrefutable evidence. Convince me of YEC.
Which god(s)?

Your supportive evidence is?

God as in the Judea-Christian God.

Supportive evidence of what? I have made no assertion.
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5/1/2014 10:57:47 PM
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At 5/1/2014 10:46:36 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 5/1/2014 10:41:59 PM, Composer wrote:
At 5/1/2014 9:52:25 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
I am a scientist. I am religious. I believe in God. I do not believe in Young Earth Creationism. I am open to change my belief if presented with irrefutable evidence. Convince me of YEC.:
Which god(s)?

Your supportive evidence is?

God as in the Judea-Christian God.

Supportive evidence of what? I have made no assertion.

You asserted a belief in a literal Supernatural god!

I asked for your supportive evidence of which you provided none?
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5/1/2014 11:02:59 PM
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At 5/1/2014 10:33:50 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 5/1/2014 10:13:45 PM, monty1 wrote:
Dog help the world if precocious teenagers like you can start calling themselves scientists.

And how do I know? Because only a teenager would ask such a dumb a5s question as that. Go play with your Mattel junior scientist lab.

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5/1/2014 11:03:26 PM
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At 5/1/2014 10:57:47 PM, Composer wrote:
At 5/1/2014 10:46:36 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 5/1/2014 10:41:59 PM, Composer wrote:
At 5/1/2014 9:52:25 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
I am a scientist. I am religious. I believe in God. I do not believe in Young Earth Creationism. I am open to change my belief if presented with irrefutable evidence. Convince me of YEC.:
Which god(s)?

Your supportive evidence is?

God as in the Judea-Christian God.

Supportive evidence of what? I have made no assertion.

You asserted a belief in a literal Supernatural god!

I asked for your supportive evidence of which you provided none?

I asserted my own personal belief. I did not say that others must believe it, I did not say that it is science, i did not say that it should be taught in school. I did not even assert the truthfulness of the belief. I merely asserted the presence of the belief in my own mind. For that assertion my own statement is ample evidence.

If you are trying to debate the existence of God, then that is not the topic of this thread. If you are trying to use this argument against my demand for proof, the the YEC crowd do assert everything about their belief that I freed myself from, and therefore do have to provide proof.
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5/1/2014 11:04:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/1/2014 11:02:59 PM, Sswdwm wrote:
At 5/1/2014 10:33:50 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
At 5/1/2014 10:13:45 PM, monty1 wrote:
Dog help the world if precocious teenagers like you can start calling themselves scientists.

And how do I know? Because only a teenager would ask such a dumb a5s question as that. Go play with your Mattel junior scientist lab.

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5/1/2014 11:12:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/1/2014 11:03:26 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
I did not even assert the truthfulness of the belief.
Ok, so we shall treat your claims with due disrespect & scepticism from now on!
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5/1/2014 11:13:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/1/2014 11:12:39 PM, Composer wrote:
At 5/1/2014 11:03:26 PM, PotBelliedGeek wrote:
I did not even assert the truthfulness of the belief.
Ok, so we shall treat your claims with due disrespect & scepticism from now on!

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5/2/2014 12:55:17 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Odd. The YEC crowd is always so vocal, but apparently when asked for evidence, they cant do anything better than hurl personal insults. I was looking forward to an intelligent and constructive discussion, but it seems that they aren't capable. Too bad.
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