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6/29/2014 9:26:49 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

Lol start comparing religions, throw away the filth, scratchlittle bit and take the one who gives the best expalintion and gives you best reasons in every aspect. as a muslim if i tell you its "Islam" its not proof so yeah start comparing... as the Quran says 21:19

Nay, We hurl the Truth against falsehood, and it knocks out its brain, and behold, falsehood doth perish! Ah! woe be to you for the (false) things ye ascribe (to Us).

So it will knockout its brain xDDDD
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6/29/2014 9:55:05 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 9:26:49 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
Nay, We hurl the Truth against falsehood, and it knocks out its brain, and behold, falsehood doth perish! Ah! woe be to you for the (false) things ye ascribe (to Us).
Do you people have any idea that this sentence isn't even a sentence in English? It is meaningless, just like the camel jockey who wrote it. I mean really stop quoting the quran. It's just drivel.
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6/29/2014 9:59:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 9:55:05 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/29/2014 9:26:49 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
Nay, We hurl the Truth against falsehood, and it knocks out its brain, and behold, falsehood doth perish! Ah! woe be to you for the (false) things ye ascribe (to Us).
Do you people have any idea that this sentence isn't even a sentence in English? It is meaningless, just like the camel jockey who wrote it. I mean really stop quoting the quran. It's just drivel.

Arrogance arrogance !!
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6/29/2014 11:26:33 AM
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At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

Worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

In heaven, we have Beer volcanoes and strippers!

Join Pastafarianism today!
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6/29/2014 12:44:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 11:26:33 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

Worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

In heaven, we have Beer volcanoes and strippers!

Join Pastafarianism today!

Saying flying spaghetti monster gives you a mental picture, some craeture that flying around with spaghetti stuff (although it sound funny), God definition is there is nothing like to him, we can depict God only through attributes. he is creator, all hearing all seeing all powerful etc.. so the fly stuff is a failure...
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6/29/2014 1:25:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 12:44:38 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 11:26:33 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

Worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

In heaven, we have Beer volcanoes and strippers!

Join Pastafarianism today!

Saying flying spaghetti monster gives you a mental picture, some craeture that flying around with spaghetti stuff (although it sound funny), God definition is there is nothing like to him, we can depict God only through attributes. he is creator, all hearing all seeing all powerful etc.. so the fly stuff is a failure...

But the flying spaghetti monster is the creator.
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6/29/2014 1:42:09 PM
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At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

Why you want that?
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6/29/2014 2:36:04 PM
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At 6/29/2014 1:25:40 PM, heisnotrisen wrote:
At 6/29/2014 12:44:38 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 11:26:33 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

Worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

In heaven, we have Beer volcanoes and strippers!

Join Pastafarianism today!

Saying flying spaghetti monster gives you a mental picture, some craeture that flying around with spaghetti stuff (although it sound funny), God definition is there is nothing like to him, we can depict God only through attributes. he is creator, all hearing all seeing all powerful etc.. so the fly stuff is a failure...

But the flying spaghetti monster is the creator.

yeah whatever... lol
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6/29/2014 2:46:07 PM
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At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

I am a religious jew and therefore don't want you to convert to my religion as we are supposed to discourage converts, however we do believe that non-jews are obligated to accept judaism as the truth and follow the seven noahide laws meant for all mankind.

With that being said, in regards to the existence of a creator sometimes referred to as g-d, i think that if you were not afraid of considering the possibility and even certain fact that there must be a creator, you will find much on the subject. The reality is that the same way that many religious people avoid studieng things that may cause some doubt because they're afraid. This is equally if not more so found by people that claim they don't believe in g-d, that they are afraid of seriously considering the arguments for g-d and they find it easy to just surround themselves with sites and people that agree with them. I've found this with so many people that i interacted with, not the fact that they don't believe in g-d but that they seriously aren't even familiar with why one would say there's a g-d.

Now as far as judaism is concerned i'll send you to a debate that i had where i argued why judaism is the most believable religion. (Although i lost the debate but that wasn't because my opponent ever refuted my argument rather for a side reason). You could skip the second round it's not relevant but you should read the firsts and third. http://www.debate.org...
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6/29/2014 2:53:39 PM
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Mendel, you lost the debate before you were barmitzvahed. Here's how: Can you give us the historical derivation of the word "Torah"?
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6/29/2014 5:38:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 11:26:33 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

Worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

In heaven, we have Beer volcanoes and strippers!

Join Pastafarianism today!
THIS MAN HAS WON THE INTERNET. Thank you, and good night.
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6/29/2014 5:38:37 PM
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At 6/29/2014 1:42:09 PM, 12_13 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

Why you want that?

I want to see the arguments theists bring forth.
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6/29/2014 6:19:57 PM
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Conversion to Christianity is simple. But not on the internet, at least it's not very convincing, here...! The whole key to being Christian is to accept Jesus Christ the Lord as your savior and believe in your heart that He died and rose again to save us from the guilt of our sins. You cannot do any earthly act to have a relationship with Christ, and the reason is because no matter how hard we try we will never equal with or as "good" as Creator God.
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6/29/2014 6:45:39 PM
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At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

We will appeal to your most tribal and primitive biases to make you feel special.
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6/29/2014 7:19:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 5:38:37 PM, patrick967 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:42:09 PM, 12_13 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

Why you want that?

I want to see the arguments theists bring forth.

You hear some stuff called "Miracles of the Quran"?
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6/30/2014 12:12:31 AM
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At 6/29/2014 5:38:37 PM, patrick967 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:42:09 PM, 12_13 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

Why you want that?

I want to see the arguments theists bring forth.

They are avb on numerous websites. Why don't you undertake to give in detail the arguments of the atheists?
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6/30/2014 2:29:59 AM
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At 6/29/2014 2:36:04 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:25:40 PM, heisnotrisen wrote:
At 6/29/2014 12:44:38 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 11:26:33 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

Worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

In heaven, we have Beer volcanoes and strippers!

Join Pastafarianism today!

Saying flying spaghetti monster gives you a mental picture, some craeture that flying around with spaghetti stuff (although it sound funny), God definition is there is nothing like to him, we can depict God only through attributes. he is creator, all hearing all seeing all powerful etc.. so the fly stuff is a failure...

But the flying spaghetti monster is the creator.

yeah whatever... lol

Right back at ya kid, in regards to YOUR god!!!!!
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6/30/2014 10:53:13 AM
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At 6/30/2014 2:29:59 AM, heisnotrisen wrote:
At 6/29/2014 2:36:04 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:25:40 PM, heisnotrisen wrote:
At 6/29/2014 12:44:38 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 11:26:33 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

Worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

In heaven, we have Beer volcanoes and strippers!

Join Pastafarianism today!

Saying flying spaghetti monster gives you a mental picture, some craeture that flying around with spaghetti stuff (although it sound funny), God definition is there is nothing like to him, we can depict God only through attributes. he is creator, all hearing all seeing all powerful etc.. so the fly stuff is a failure...

But the flying spaghetti monster is the creator.

yeah whatever... lol

Right back at ya kid, in regards to YOUR god!!!!!

yeah whatever... lol
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6/30/2014 1:42:41 PM
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At 6/29/2014 2:53:39 PM, skinker wrote:
Mendel, you lost the debate before you were barmitzvahed. Here's how: Can you give us the historical derivation of the word "Torah"?

Pray explain to me the deep meaning of that question? You mind telling me the historical derivation of the word bible. The translation of the word Torah is a teaching or a lesson, a few places in the bible the Torah is referred to with this word, for example Deuteronomy 33:4 "the Torah that Moses has commanded us is the inheritance of the house of Jacob". And in the second chapter of Isaiah there's the famous verse about the future redemption "for from Zion the Torah will come forth and the word of g-d from Jerusalem". This of course is all besides the point that the name makes sense, being that the Torah is the book which tells us how to live our lives with 613 commandments.
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6/30/2014 4:07:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 6/29/2014 5:38:37 PM, patrick967 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 1:42:09 PM, 12_13 wrote:
At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

Why you want that?

I want to see the arguments theists bring forth.

Only good reason to convert to disciple of Jesus ("Christian") is that you want to be his disciple.
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6/30/2014 4:31:52 PM
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At 6/29/2014 2:46:07 PM, mendel wrote:
At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

I am a religious jew and therefore don't want you to convert to my religion as we are supposed to discourage converts, however we do believe that non-jews are obligated to accept judaism as the truth and follow the seven noahide laws meant for all mankind.

1. What is the difference between a "religious Jew" and non-religious Jew" and a "Jew"?

2. What are the "noahide" laws - and do you lay aside the decalogue?
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7/1/2014 10:54:48 AM
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FSM is fun!
FSM is funny!
FSM is the "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" of religions!
Or maybe that's an over-exaggeration. It's feels more of Emperor's New Groove than Monty Python.
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7/1/2014 11:28:39 AM
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At 6/29/2014 11:26:33 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

Worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

In heaven, we have Beer volcanoes and strippers!

Join Pastafarianism today!

Why would an omniscient god make himself look like a pile of spaghetti and call himself the flying spaghetti moster? Omniscient=he'd know how ridiculous he looked. He wouldn't even have to be omniscient for that.
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7/2/2014 5:29:51 AM
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At 7/1/2014 11:30:43 AM, Loveshismom wrote:
"Grace and peace to you from God our Father and The Lord Jesus Christ."

-2 Corinthians 1:2

Oh yes, getting verses from the bible will totally convert him.
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7/2/2014 7:59:15 AM
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At 7/2/2014 5:29:51 AM, XLAV wrote:
At 7/1/2014 11:30:43 AM, Loveshismom wrote:
"Grace and peace to you from God our Father and The Lord Jesus Christ."

-2 Corinthians 1:2

Oh yes, getting verses from the bible will totally convert him.

Yeah the sweet ones
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7/2/2014 10:26:02 PM
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At 6/30/2014 4:31:52 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 6/29/2014 2:46:07 PM, mendel wrote:
At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

I am a religious jew and therefore don't want you to convert to my religion as we are supposed to discourage converts, however we do believe that non-jews are obligated to accept judaism as the truth and follow the seven noahide laws meant for all mankind.

1. What is the difference between a "religious Jew" and non-religious Jew" and a "Jew"?

A Jew is a person whos mother is Jewish or one that converted properly as mandated by Jewish law. When g-d chose the Jewish people at mount Sinai the Jewish people became a holy people who are charged with keeping 613 commandments as spelled out in detail in the Torah. One of the commandments is not to marry a non-Jew (Deuteronomy 7:3) so that's the definition of a Jew someone who comes from the nation of Israel,and if there is intermarriage (g-d forbid) the child is Jewish based on the mother.

Both a religious and non-religious Jew are obligated by g-d to keep all the commandments and to live as Jews. However in the 19th and 20th century it most Jews became secular, and many of them don't even believe in the Torah. So they are obligated to keep all the commandments and are g-ds chosen people but they don't even know it.

2. What are the "noahide" laws - and do you lay aside the decalogue?

In short 1.don't commit adultery 2.don't murder 3.no idolatry (one g-d) 4.blasphemy (respect g-d) 5.stealing 6.not eating a limb that was taken from the animal when it was alive 7.set up courts of justice in every society (this world is not a jungle). Now in truth there are many more included in each of these categorize for example in 1 there are another few which are forbidden homosexual relations, bestiality, and incest mother, sister, step mother. But generally speaking there are these seven categorize.

No one is doing away with the ten commandments, but essentially like all the commandments they are addressed to the Jewish people. (For example surely the non-Jews are not obligated to keep the Sabbath when it says clearly in the bible elsewhere that this is the special sign between me and the Jewish people (exodus 31:16)
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7/3/2014 6:54:25 AM
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At 7/2/2014 10:26:02 PM, mendel wrote:
At 6/30/2014 4:31:52 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 6/29/2014 2:46:07 PM, mendel wrote:
At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

I am a religious jew and therefore don't want you to convert to my religion as we are supposed to discourage converts, however we do believe that non-jews are obligated to accept judaism as the truth and follow the seven noahide laws meant for all mankind.

1. What is the difference between a "religious Jew" and non-religious Jew" and a "Jew"?

A Jew is a person whos mother is Jewish or one that converted properly as mandated by Jewish law. When g-d chose the Jewish people at mount Sinai the Jewish people became a holy people who are charged with keeping 613 commandments as spelled out in detail in the Torah. One of the commandments is not to marry a non-Jew (Deuteronomy 7:3) so that's the definition of a Jew someone who comes from the nation of Israel,and if there is intermarriage (g-d forbid) the child is Jewish based on the mother.

Both a religious and non-religious Jew are obligated by g-d to keep all the commandments and to live as Jews. However in the 19th and 20th century it most Jews became secular, and many of them don't even believe in the Torah. So they are obligated to keep all the commandments and are g-ds chosen people but they don't even know it.

2. What are the "noahide" laws - and do you lay aside the decalogue?

In short 1.don't commit adultery 2.don't murder 3.no idolatry (one g-d) 4.blasphemy (respect g-d) 5.stealing 6.not eating a limb that was taken from the animal when it was alive 7.set up courts of justice in every society (this world is not a jungle). Now in truth there are many more included in each of these categorize for example in 1 there are another few which are forbidden homosexual relations, bestiality, and incest mother, sister, step mother. But generally speaking there are these seven categorize.

No one is doing away with the ten commandments, but essentially like all the commandments they are addressed to the Jewish people. (For example surely the non-Jews are not obligated to keep the Sabbath when it says clearly in the bible elsewhere that this is the special sign between me and the Jewish people (exodus 31:16)

Not eating a limb that was taken from an animal when it was alive?
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7/3/2014 7:24:14 AM
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At 6/29/2014 9:17:31 AM, patrick967 wrote:
I'm atheist, I want someone to convert me to their religion. Bring forth thou arguments!

patrick967,

Tell the truth. Do you really want someone to convert you? Or are you just saying that and then when sincere attempts are made to prove to you that GOD exists and that Jesus son of Joseph was God-incarnate, then you can't wait to attack those arguments. I think you are a liar. Bring forth thou argument!

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