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Dragonfang
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8/27/2014 2:55:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I am running up for the "Most cliche' title" award. Got a problem?

So apparently, cognitive and social studies believe that we have the tendency to be religious.

http://www.theage.com.au...

http://www.sciencedirect.com...

http://www.science20.com...

In hindsight, it can be observed in culture. Atheist Russia had sanctified large statues of V. Lenin and J. Stalin, and atheist China had sanctified statue of Mao Z. In other words, they had a cult of personality.
Today's rather shallow society have celebrity worship and beliebers (those are on a category of their own).

So do you agree with the conclusion of the studies? If not, then what is an alternative viewpoint?

Are the cult of personality culture and celebrity worship culture attempts to fill a void? Why do they happen?

And last but not least: what is *insert topic title*?
Is it happiness?
Is life meaningless?
Is there such a thing as a drunk man's happiness (a drunken man is happier than a sober one)?
Should we bother thinking of a purpose?
Is there a rational purpose of life?
Benshapiro
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8/27/2014 3:07:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I believe that whatever good we do in life gives us meaning. Virtuous love is inherently good. So I think that loving virtuously is the most meaninful or purposeful life we can have.
Dragonfang
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8/29/2014 9:49:29 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Some interesting fact about the late Kim Jong Il, including the ability to "control weather":

http://www.ibtimes.com...

An other question: What system of rule do you think is best?
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8/29/2014 9:56:49 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Democracy is piss poor but it's better than anything currently available.

Theocracy is a leap into the abyss that is stupidity.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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8/29/2014 2:47:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/27/2014 2:55:55 PM, Dragonfang wrote:
The purpose of life

I think the purpose of this "life" (death 1) is that we get to know what good and evil really means as people wanted to know them in the Garden of Eden. And then those who are or become righteous have opportunity to come back to true life. And I think the purpose of true life is love.

Most assuredly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
John 5:24
Dragonfang
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9/2/2014 12:28:29 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/29/2014 9:56:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
Democracy is piss poor but it's better than anything currently available.

Theocracy is a leap into the abyss that is stupidity.

Can you explain how today's democracy is any different than theocracy?
Ash_RationalTheist
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9/2/2014 12:44:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/27/2014 2:55:55 PM, Dragonfang wrote:
I am running up for the "Most cliche' title" award. Got a problem?


So apparently, cognitive and social studies believe that we have the tendency to be religious.

http://www.theage.com.au...

http://www.sciencedirect.com...

http://www.science20.com...

In hindsight, it can be observed in culture. Atheist Russia had sanctified large statues of V. Lenin and J. Stalin, and atheist China had sanctified statue of Mao Z. In other words, they had a cult of personality.
Today's rather shallow society have celebrity worship and beliebers (those are on a category of their own).

So do you agree with the conclusion of the studies? If not, then what is an alternative viewpoint?

Are the cult of personality culture and celebrity worship culture attempts to fill a void? Why do they happen?

And last but not least: what is *insert topic title*?
Is it happiness?
Is life meaningless?
Is there such a thing as a drunk man's happiness (a drunken man is happier than a sober one)?
Should we bother thinking of a purpose?
Is there a rational purpose of life?

Bhagavad-Gita answers this question quite well.
We as eternal souls are pleasure seeking beings. But due to us being entrapped in this body due to envy for God, thereby ignorance and our karmic reactions.
By gaining knowledge of self and remaining fixed in it and also nullify our karmic reactions we can taste pure bliss untinged by karmic reactions.
Bhagavad-Gita elaborates the techniques to work without desire of fruits.

I invite you to read it as it'll broaden your perspective of viewing things and elevate your self confidence and thus helpful in nullifying false ego.

You can read from here: http://vedabase.com...

http://www.debate.org...
Keepin' It Real!
bornofgod
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9/2/2014 3:23:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/27/2014 2:55:55 PM, Dragonfang wrote:
I am running up for the "Most cliche' title" award. Got a problem?


So apparently, cognitive and social studies believe that we have the tendency to be religious.

http://www.theage.com.au...

http://www.sciencedirect.com...

http://www.science20.com...

In hindsight, it can be observed in culture. Atheist Russia had sanctified large statues of V. Lenin and J. Stalin, and atheist China had sanctified statue of Mao Z. In other words, they had a cult of personality.
Today's rather shallow society have celebrity worship and beliebers (those are on a category of their own).

So do you agree with the conclusion of the studies? If not, then what is an alternative viewpoint?

Are the cult of personality culture and celebrity worship culture attempts to fill a void? Why do they happen?

And last but not least: what is *insert topic title*?
Is it happiness?
Is life meaningless?
Is there such a thing as a drunk man's happiness (a drunken man is happier than a sober one)?
Should we bother thinking of a purpose?
Is there a rational purpose of life?

God created everything for His purpose and that's all. Life is but a dream that we're all in.
SamStevens
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9/2/2014 3:39:20 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/2/2014 3:23:31 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 8/27/2014 2:55:55 PM, Dragonfang wrote:
I am running up for the "Most cliche' title" award. Got a problem?


So apparently, cognitive and social studies believe that we have the tendency to be religious.

http://www.theage.com.au...

http://www.sciencedirect.com...

http://www.science20.com...

In hindsight, it can be observed in culture. Atheist Russia had sanctified large statues of V. Lenin and J. Stalin, and atheist China had sanctified statue of Mao Z. In other words, they had a cult of personality.
Today's rather shallow society have celebrity worship and beliebers (those are on a category of their own).

So do you agree with the conclusion of the studies? If not, then what is an alternative viewpoint?

Are the cult of personality culture and celebrity worship culture attempts to fill a void? Why do they happen?

And last but not least: what is *insert topic title*?
Is it happiness?
Is life meaningless?
Is there such a thing as a drunk man's happiness (a drunken man is happier than a sober one)?
Should we bother thinking of a purpose?
Is there a rational purpose of life?

God created everything for His purpose and that's all. Life is but a dream that we're all in.

Is it God's dream that we are in?
"This is the true horror of religion. It allows perfectly decent and sane people to believe by the billions, what only lunatics could believe on their own." Sam Harris
Life asked Death "Why do people love me but hate you?"
Death responded: "Because you are a beautiful lie, and I am the painful truth."
bornofgod
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9/2/2014 4:11:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/2/2014 3:39:20 PM, SamStevens wrote:
At 9/2/2014 3:23:31 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 8/27/2014 2:55:55 PM, Dragonfang wrote:
I am running up for the "Most cliche' title" award. Got a problem?


So apparently, cognitive and social studies believe that we have the tendency to be religious.

http://www.theage.com.au...

http://www.sciencedirect.com...

http://www.science20.com...

In hindsight, it can be observed in culture. Atheist Russia had sanctified large statues of V. Lenin and J. Stalin, and atheist China had sanctified statue of Mao Z. In other words, they had a cult of personality.
Today's rather shallow society have celebrity worship and beliebers (those are on a category of their own).

So do you agree with the conclusion of the studies? If not, then what is an alternative viewpoint?

Are the cult of personality culture and celebrity worship culture attempts to fill a void? Why do they happen?

And last but not least: what is *insert topic title*?
Is it happiness?
Is life meaningless?
Is there such a thing as a drunk man's happiness (a drunken man is happier than a sober one)?
Should we bother thinking of a purpose?
Is there a rational purpose of life?

God created everything for His purpose and that's all. Life is but a dream that we're all in.

Is it God's dream that we are in?

Yes !!! We're just characters in His dream and I was created as His voice that was spoken through His characters called prophets and saints. He have to have some way of letting us know who we are in His thoughts.
SamStevens
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9/2/2014 4:25:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/2/2014 4:11:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 9/2/2014 3:39:20 PM, SamStevens wrote:
At 9/2/2014 3:23:31 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 8/27/2014 2:55:55 PM, Dragonfang wrote:
I am running up for the "Most cliche' title" award. Got a problem?


So apparently, cognitive and social studies believe that we have the tendency to be religious.

http://www.theage.com.au...

http://www.sciencedirect.com...

http://www.science20.com...

In hindsight, it can be observed in culture. Atheist Russia had sanctified large statues of V. Lenin and J. Stalin, and atheist China had sanctified statue of Mao Z. In other words, they had a cult of personality.
Today's rather shallow society have celebrity worship and beliebers (those are on a category of their own).

So do you agree with the conclusion of the studies? If not, then what is an alternative viewpoint?

Are the cult of personality culture and celebrity worship culture attempts to fill a void? Why do they happen?

And last but not least: what is *insert topic title*?
Is it happiness?
Is life meaningless?
Is there such a thing as a drunk man's happiness (a drunken man is happier than a sober one)?
Should we bother thinking of a purpose?
Is there a rational purpose of life?

God created everything for His purpose and that's all. Life is but a dream that we're all in.

Is it God's dream that we are in?

Yes !!! We're just characters in His dream and I was created as His voice that was spoken through His characters called prophets and saints. He have to have some way of letting us know who we are in His thoughts.

What happens if God wakes up from his dream or dreams about something else?
"This is the true horror of religion. It allows perfectly decent and sane people to believe by the billions, what only lunatics could believe on their own." Sam Harris
Life asked Death "Why do people love me but hate you?"
Death responded: "Because you are a beautiful lie, and I am the painful truth."
bornofgod
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9/2/2014 5:36:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/2/2014 4:25:33 PM, SamStevens wrote:
At 9/2/2014 4:11:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 9/2/2014 3:39:20 PM, SamStevens wrote:
At 9/2/2014 3:23:31 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 8/27/2014 2:55:55 PM, Dragonfang wrote:
I am running up for the "Most cliche' title" award. Got a problem?


So apparently, cognitive and social studies believe that we have the tendency to be religious.

http://www.theage.com.au...

http://www.sciencedirect.com...

http://www.science20.com...

In hindsight, it can be observed in culture. Atheist Russia had sanctified large statues of V. Lenin and J. Stalin, and atheist China had sanctified statue of Mao Z. In other words, they had a cult of personality.
Today's rather shallow society have celebrity worship and beliebers (those are on a category of their own).

So do you agree with the conclusion of the studies? If not, then what is an alternative viewpoint?

Are the cult of personality culture and celebrity worship culture attempts to fill a void? Why do they happen?

And last but not least: what is *insert topic title*?
Is it happiness?
Is life meaningless?
Is there such a thing as a drunk man's happiness (a drunken man is happier than a sober one)?
Should we bother thinking of a purpose?
Is there a rational purpose of life?

God created everything for His purpose and that's all. Life is but a dream that we're all in.

Is it God's dream that we are in?

Yes !!! We're just characters in His dream and I was created as His voice that was spoken through His characters called prophets and saints. He have to have some way of letting us know who we are in His thoughts.

What happens if God wakes up from his dream or dreams about something else?

God's dream is a planned program where invisible vibrations are processed into illusions, similar to how a computer works. This program called "Eternal Life" will go on forever. God hasn't taught any of us saints if there's anyone outside of him that can plan and create programs like he can so for now, I'm perfectly content with knowing I'm just a character within His dream. If you would have told me this a few years ago, I would have thought you were crazy but now I know who we are in Him.
SamStevens
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9/2/2014 5:37:49 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/2/2014 5:36:09 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 9/2/2014 4:25:33 PM, SamStevens wrote:
At 9/2/2014 4:11:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 9/2/2014 3:39:20 PM, SamStevens wrote:
At 9/2/2014 3:23:31 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 8/27/2014 2:55:55 PM, Dragonfang wrote:
I am running up for the "Most cliche' title" award. Got a problem?


So apparently, cognitive and social studies believe that we have the tendency to be religious.

http://www.theage.com.au...

http://www.sciencedirect.com...

http://www.science20.com...

In hindsight, it can be observed in culture. Atheist Russia had sanctified large statues of V. Lenin and J. Stalin, and atheist China had sanctified statue of Mao Z. In other words, they had a cult of personality.
Today's rather shallow society have celebrity worship and beliebers (those are on a category of their own).

So do you agree with the conclusion of the studies? If not, then what is an alternative viewpoint?

Are the cult of personality culture and celebrity worship culture attempts to fill a void? Why do they happen?

And last but not least: what is *insert topic title*?
Is it happiness?
Is life meaningless?
Is there such a thing as a drunk man's happiness (a drunken man is happier than a sober one)?
Should we bother thinking of a purpose?
Is there a rational purpose of life?

God created everything for His purpose and that's all. Life is but a dream that we're all in.

Is it God's dream that we are in?

Yes !!! We're just characters in His dream and I was created as His voice that was spoken through His characters called prophets and saints. He have to have some way of letting us know who we are in His thoughts.

What happens if God wakes up from his dream or dreams about something else?

God's dream is a planned program where invisible vibrations are processed into illusions, similar to how a computer works. This program called "Eternal Life" will go on forever. God hasn't taught any of us saints if there's anyone outside of him that can plan and create programs like he can so for now, I'm perfectly content with knowing I'm just a character within His dream. If you would have told me this a few years ago, I would have thought you were crazy but now I know who we are in Him.

Seems legitimate.
"This is the true horror of religion. It allows perfectly decent and sane people to believe by the billions, what only lunatics could believe on their own." Sam Harris
Life asked Death "Why do people love me but hate you?"
Death responded: "Because you are a beautiful lie, and I am the painful truth."
bornofgod
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9/2/2014 5:44:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/2/2014 5:37:49 PM, SamStevens wrote:
At 9/2/2014 5:36:09 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 9/2/2014 4:25:33 PM, SamStevens wrote:
At 9/2/2014 4:11:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 9/2/2014 3:39:20 PM, SamStevens wrote:
At 9/2/2014 3:23:31 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 8/27/2014 2:55:55 PM, Dragonfang wrote:
I am running up for the "Most cliche' title" award. Got a problem?


So apparently, cognitive and social studies believe that we have the tendency to be religious.

http://www.theage.com.au...

http://www.sciencedirect.com...

http://www.science20.com...

In hindsight, it can be observed in culture. Atheist Russia had sanctified large statues of V. Lenin and J. Stalin, and atheist China had sanctified statue of Mao Z. In other words, they had a cult of personality.
Today's rather shallow society have celebrity worship and beliebers (those are on a category of their own).

So do you agree with the conclusion of the studies? If not, then what is an alternative viewpoint?

Are the cult of personality culture and celebrity worship culture attempts to fill a void? Why do they happen?

And last but not least: what is *insert topic title*?
Is it happiness?
Is life meaningless?
Is there such a thing as a drunk man's happiness (a drunken man is happier than a sober one)?
Should we bother thinking of a purpose?
Is there a rational purpose of life?

God created everything for His purpose and that's all. Life is but a dream that we're all in.

Is it God's dream that we are in?

Yes !!! We're just characters in His dream and I was created as His voice that was spoken through His characters called prophets and saints. He have to have some way of letting us know who we are in His thoughts.

What happens if God wakes up from his dream or dreams about something else?

God's dream is a planned program where invisible vibrations are processed into illusions, similar to how a computer works. This program called "Eternal Life" will go on forever. God hasn't taught any of us saints if there's anyone outside of him that can plan and create programs like he can so for now, I'm perfectly content with knowing I'm just a character within His dream. If you would have told me this a few years ago, I would have thought you were crazy but now I know who we are in Him.

Seems legitimate.

You're one of the people God planned to use to listen to this knowledge of his to piss off the unbelieving Christians who think they know him. Beware of these forum members who will try mess with you for listening to his voice. They get very jealous of people who listen and learn who we are because they weren't made to do so. Although, I have spoken to a few Christians around Campbell, CA. who were made to listen to his voice. Campbell is where I've been finding all God's believers this past three years who have listened and learned who they are. It's amazing to see them light up after learning that this is all a dream. Some of them already believed that our life experiences were nothing but dreams.
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9/2/2014 11:37:17 PM
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What is meaning in general? Meaning is free floating and entirely subjective. Things mean whatever most people think they mean. Personal meaning is whatever you think it is. The conveyance of meaning is assembled using signs and symbols. Personal meaning is assembled from cultural archetypes. We find our identity by grouping these archetypes. It is impossible to say who we are intrinsically without reference to these archetypes. Language is no longer precise, but rather an assembly of aphorisms and colloquialisms that we take off the shelf and arrange in blocks. Popular culture is entirely formulaic, art is collagic, architecture expresses political themes that we no longer grasp. Propaganda is so intrinsic as to be invisible. We have truly entered the matrix.
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9/3/2014 2:27:55 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/27/2014 2:55:55 PM, Dragonfang wrote:
I am running up for the "Most cliche' title" award. Got a problem?


So apparently, cognitive and social studies believe that we have the tendency to be religious.

http://www.theage.com.au...

http://www.sciencedirect.com...

http://www.science20.com...

In hindsight, it can be observed in culture. Atheist Russia had sanctified large statues of V. Lenin and J. Stalin, and atheist China had sanctified statue of Mao Z. In other words, they had a cult of personality.
Today's rather shallow society have celebrity worship and beliebers (those are on a category of their own).

So do you agree with the conclusion of the studies? If not, then what is an alternative viewpoint?

Are the cult of personality culture and celebrity worship culture attempts to fill a void? Why do they happen?

And last but not least: what is *insert topic title*?
Is it happiness?
Is life meaningless?
Is there such a thing as a drunk man's happiness (a drunken man is happier than a sober one)?
Should we bother thinking of a purpose?
Is there a rational purpose of life?

I cannot conclude that humans contain an inherent purpose within life, with the exception of perhaps procreation and eating. I do concede however, that humans do possess an innate cognitive ability to, experience, cogitate, and subsequently learn about reality which if performed successfully, may benefit the survivability of that particular human, giving him/her an advantage to progress with reality.

Possessing cognition facilitates us to make decisions, and decisions are influenced, whether the stimulus be internal or external. Humans, aside from procreating and eating, evoke personal and individual purpose that is influenced in some fashion. Physiological and anatomical requirements such as, eating and defecating, induce an incentive to scavenge for food, and sexual tendencies induce an urge to mate. However, what influences an individual to purchase a yellow BMW versus a black? That is entirely subjective.

So, the purpose of life is what YOU, the decision maker, decides it to be. Watch the Adjustment Bureau; it is slightly pertinent to the current topic at hand.