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10/11/2014 11:29:27 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
When in this 21st Century, the Age of Technology, we are still plagued by religious beliefs that are the contributing cause toward terrorism, killings and wars between nations, it is due to misinformation about God.

When one believes in a deity who caused catastrophes, punished people and created the universe out of nothingness as if by magic, it is due to misinformation.

When the attributes of human characteristics to exercise upon others power, control, dominance, destruction, punishment, revenge, and judgment are blamed on a deity, it is due to misinformation.

When the destruction of civilizations, most sufferings and premature deaths that are due to human frailties, stupidity or imperfections, are blamed on a deity"s doings, it is due to misinformation.

When one represents that the deity that mankind calls by several names exists in a spiritual realm and never has and never will interfere with anything on earth or in the universe, this is verifiable scientific truth and NOT due to misinformation.

Our life on earth is to prepare us and to give us examples of the hereafter. Everything is progressive and accumulative. We are here to accumulate experiences of feelings, the beauty of every organism that surrounds us, the landscape that adds to our perception; then we can begin our next journey.

We should live our life to its fullest. One hundred years from now, almost every single person alive today will have died. Several billion people, wiped off the face of this earth. Our life is but a blip on the radar screen of time.

We are the most important person responsible for whether our soul will live or die. Here we have to learn how to intertwine with a community; there we can experience anything that the imagination can perceive.

Envision yourself as a spirit that is uninhibited by any resistance or external influences; you can travel to any star or planet instantly, explore the beauty of the universe, and still be in sync with God.

As an example: Imagine the most advanced form of Virtual Reality that can access a super-computer and place you in whichever setting you desire; you can play with the animals, be with your loved ones, listen to the greatest opera, stage or musical performances, or simply relax next to a bubbling brook and enjoy the scenery. You feel no pain, despair, heartache, or negative emotions; your spirit is now a part of God my friend.
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10/11/2014 4:22:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/11/2014 11:29:27 AM, peaceseeker wrote:
When in this 21st Century, the Age of Technology, we are still plagued by religious beliefs that are the contributing cause toward terrorism, killings and wars between nations, it is due to misinformation about God.

When one believes in a deity who caused catastrophes, punished people and created the universe out of nothingness as if by magic, it is due to misinformation.

When the attributes of human characteristics to exercise upon others power, control, dominance, destruction, punishment, revenge, and judgment are blamed on a deity, it is due to misinformation.

When the destruction of civilizations, most sufferings and premature deaths that are due to human frailties, stupidity or imperfections, are blamed on a deity"s doings, it is due to misinformation.

When one represents that the deity that mankind calls by several names exists in a spiritual realm and never has and never will interfere with anything on earth or in the universe, this is verifiable scientific truth and NOT due to misinformation.

Our life on earth is to prepare us and to give us examples of the hereafter. Everything is progressive and accumulative. We are here to accumulate experiences of feelings, the beauty of every organism that surrounds us, the landscape that adds to our perception; then we can begin our next journey.

We should live our life to its fullest. One hundred years from now, almost every single person alive today will have died. Several billion people, wiped off the face of this earth. Our life is but a blip on the radar screen of time.

We are the most important person responsible for whether our soul will live or die. Here we have to learn how to intertwine with a community; there we can experience anything that the imagination can perceive.

Envision yourself as a spirit that is uninhibited by any resistance or external influences; you can travel to any star or planet instantly, explore the beauty of the universe, and still be in sync with God.

As an example: Imagine the most advanced form of Virtual Reality that can access a super-computer and place you in whichever setting you desire; you can play with the animals, be with your loved ones, listen to the greatest opera, stage or musical performances, or simply relax next to a bubbling brook and enjoy the scenery. You feel no pain, despair, heartache, or negative emotions; your spirit is now a part of God my friend.

so whats your point here?
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10/11/2014 10:25:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/11/2014 4:22:08 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
so whats your point here?

Ideology change is sorely needed in religions in order to stop the killings for Allah.
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10/12/2014 12:43:22 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/11/2014 10:25:25 PM, peaceseeker wrote:
At 10/11/2014 4:22:08 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
so whats your point here?

Ideology change is sorely needed in religions in order to stop the killings for Allah.

nobody kills for Allah.... they justifying their killing for revenge using Islam,Allah and what have you... even these stupid ISIS fighters.... here see this from vice news talking to member from "Islamic state" in iraq:
https://www.youtube.com...

they are angry as sh1t its not problem of Islam, its for revenge as they define it towards Westren military in middle east.
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10/12/2014 12:52:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Provide...

1. Objective evidence for God

2. Objective evidence of a "hereafter".
"If we believe absurdities we shall commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
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10/12/2014 1:46:27 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/12/2014 12:52:01 AM, Beastt wrote:
Provide...

1. Objective evidence for God

2. Objective evidence of a "hereafter".
Can I add
3. Objective evidence of a "soul".
To the list?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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10/12/2014 1:52:34 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/12/2014 1:46:27 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/12/2014 12:52:01 AM, Beastt wrote:
Provide...

1. Objective evidence for God

2. Objective evidence of a "hereafter".
Can I add
3. Objective evidence of a "soul".
To the list?

Sure. Then there will be two posts which are blown-off. Theists (for the most part), aren't interested in supporting assertions. They're only interested in making them, and then challenging everyone to "prove" that they're wrong.

"My cat has memorized 'The Declaration of Independence'. PROVE ME WRONG!" It's such a plebeian practice.
"If we believe absurdities we shall commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
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10/12/2014 1:58:21 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/11/2014 4:22:08 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
so whats your point here?

Ideology change is sorely needed in religions in order to stop the killings for Allah.

nobody kills for Allah....

They die and kill for Allah & believe that their soul will be rewarded.

They do not understand that:
Death of another human whose soul has not had a chance to reconcile with Allah means death to the soul of the killer...wasted lives and souls...Allah weeps for your family who will never see you again.
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10/12/2014 2:01:39 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/12/2014 1:58:21 AM, peaceseeker wrote:
At 10/11/2014 4:22:08 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
so whats your point here?

Ideology change is sorely needed in religions in order to stop the killings for Allah.

nobody kills for Allah....

They die and kill for Allah & believe that their soul will be rewarded.

They do not understand that:
Death of another human whose soul has not had a chance to reconcile with Allah means death to the soul of the killer...wasted lives and souls...Allah weeps for your family who will never see you again.

Or they don't understand that just like Zeus, Krishna, Mithra, Dionysus, Poseidon, Tammuz, Attis, Vishnu, the Christian God and all of the rest, Allah is just a myth, and they lack critical thinking skills or they'd realize that.
"If we believe absurdities we shall commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
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10/12/2014 2:03:43 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/12/2014 1:46:27 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/12/2014 12:52:01 AM, Beastt wrote:
Provide...
1. Objective evidence for God
2. Objective evidence of a "hereafter".
3. Objective evidence of a "soul".

NONE...only spiritual evidence...but the objective here is to have Ideology change in religions in order to stop terrorism.
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10/12/2014 2:05:38 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/12/2014 1:58:21 AM, peaceseeker wrote:
At 10/11/2014 4:22:08 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
so whats your point here?

Ideology change is sorely needed in religions in order to stop the killings for Allah.

nobody kills for Allah....

They die and kill for Allah & believe that their soul will be rewarded.

They do not understand that:
Death of another human whose soul has not had a chance to reconcile with Allah means death to the soul of the killer...wasted lives and souls...Allah weeps for your family who will never see you again.

ok im finished here little kid learn something new brainwashed zombie.d
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10/12/2014 2:08:29 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/11/2014 4:22:08 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
so whats your point here?

Ideology change is sorely needed in religions in order to stop the killings for Allah.

nobody kills for Allah....

They die and kill for Allah & believe that their soul will be rewarded.

They do not understand that:
Death of another human whose soul has not had a chance to reconcile with Allah means death to the soul of the killer...wasted lives and souls...Allah weeps for your family who will never see you again.

Or they don't understand that just like Zeus, Krishna, Mithra, Dionysus, Poseidon, Tammuz, Attis, Vishnu, the Christian God and all of the rest, Allah is just a myth, and they lack critical thinking skills or they'd realize that.

The concept of Allah or God was created by man....but they kill for Allah...and Ideology change is needed to stop that.
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10/12/2014 2:11:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/12/2014 2:03:43 AM, peaceseeker wrote:
At 10/12/2014 1:46:27 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/12/2014 12:52:01 AM, Beastt wrote:
Provide...
1. Objective evidence for God
2. Objective evidence of a "hereafter".
3. Objective evidence of a "soul".

NONE...only spiritual evidence...but the objective here is to have Ideology change in religions in order to stop terrorism.
The best result would be for people to grow up, take responsibility and think for themselves.
If those things occurred we would no longer have the heavy anchor that is religion.
We will be free to experience and explore the limited but unbounded existence we know as humanity.
We possess the most amazing thing in the known universe (minute as that may be) and we waste it on superstition.
We possess the human brain.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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10/12/2014 2:15:15 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/12/2014 2:08:29 AM, peaceseeker wrote:
At 10/11/2014 4:22:08 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
so whats your point here?

Ideology change is sorely needed in religions in order to stop the killings for Allah.

nobody kills for Allah....

They die and kill for Allah & believe that their soul will be rewarded.

They do not understand that:
Death of another human whose soul has not had a chance to reconcile with Allah means death to the soul of the killer...wasted lives and souls...Allah weeps for your family who will never see you again.

Or they don't understand that just like Zeus, Krishna, Mithra, Dionysus, Poseidon, Tammuz, Attis, Vishnu, the Christian God and all of the rest, Allah is just a myth, and they lack critical thinking skills or they'd realize that.

The concept of Allah or God was created by man....but they kill for Allah...and Ideology change is needed to stop that.
Then why all the mumbo-jumbo about not having the chance to reconcile with Allah and the death to the soul of the killer? How is it that Allah weeps for the family when Allah is (correctly), just a concept developed by men?
"If we believe absurdities we shall commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
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10/12/2014 11:56:39 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/12/2014 12:52:01 AM, Beastt wrote:
Provide...
1. Objective evidence for God
2. Objective evidence of a "hereafter".
3. Objective evidence of a "soul".

NONE...only spiritual evidence...but the objective here is to have Ideology change in religions in order to stop terrorism.

The best result would be for people to grow up, take responsibility and think for themselves.
If those things occurred we would no longer have the heavy anchor that is religion.
We will be free to experience and explore the limited but unbounded existence we know as humanity.
We possess the most amazing thing in the known universe (minute as that may be) and we waste it on superstition.
We possess the human brain.

We will never eliminate religions but we can eliminate superstitions within religions via the acceptance of Transcendology....that could also help to stifle religion supported terrorism.
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10/12/2014 12:01:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/12/2014 12:43:22 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 10/11/2014 10:25:25 PM, peaceseeker wrote:
At 10/11/2014 4:22:08 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
so whats your point here?

Ideology change is sorely needed in religions in order to stop the killings for Allah.

nobody kills for Allah....

Except for the thousands of people who do.

they justifying their killing for revenge using Islam,Allah and what have you... even these stupid ISIS fighters.... here see this from vice news talking to member from "Islamic state" in iraq:
https://www.youtube.com...

they are angry as sh1t its not problem of Islam, its for revenge as they define it towards Westren military in middle east.

While they at the same time find their justification in islamic scripture, the example made by Mohammed and their own beliefs. Is it possible to be a muslim and not believe that killing infidels is a great duty? Of course. If western military intervention is the problem alone, why do they kill shiites, kurds and christians? What do they have to do with westerners? Why do they kill sunnis who don't agree with them? Naturally, they are motivated to some extent by infidel troops moving into the muslim world. But this is just another thing which is clearly related to islam and the way the quran and the hadith mandates you to handle those you consider to be islam's enemies.
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10/12/2014 12:02:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
(I received the following email from a cardiologist in Iraq)
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Dear Peace Seeker,
I have secretly forwarded your email with the attached book Urantia United to some of my colleagues at the hospital. We are in agreement that the philosophy within that book can possibly be the starting point that is needed to educate and change the ideology of the Muslims who are now committing dastardly terrorist attacks against innocent civilians.
Maybe you can get your government to drop copies of these books by plane unto ISIS. If nothing else it may knock some sense into their heads even if they can't read English.
----------------------------------
The book is 607 pages for $0.99 at http://www.amazon.com......

Islamic terrorists use their religious ideology to promote and strengthen their causes. In order to counter this and establish some rationality within their ranks a new ideology needs to be established. Will this work? Maybe not, but it may be worth trying. Bombing terrorists may just recruit more followers.

Transcendology Vs. Religion

Transcendology explores the possibility of spiritual transcendence. Its goal is to determine if the energy in our spirit dies with our body upon our physical demise or if it can pass into another dimension; a collective, an existence that has been called God by mankind. Is our spirit capable of receiving inspiration therefrom and can it establish lines of communication with this other dimension, as claimed by Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, etc.; prophets who established monotheistic religions? Upon our physical demise, can our spirit enter into a spiritual realm to be united with this spiritual collective, this government that guides the development of our universe like a master planner? Could this be a collective that consists of all of the knowledge that has ever existed in the universe? Is the purpose of our life to gather experiences that will add to the progressiveness of this collective?

In this 21st Century, the Age of Technology, we are still plagued by religious beliefs that may be a contributing cause of terrorism, killings and wars between nations. Belief in a God who causes catastrophes, punishes people and who created the universe out of nothing as if by magic was brought about by hysteria and superstition. This thought process needs to be reassessed and brought up to date. Open-minded people must use common sense to determine whether mankind"s God was incorrectly perceived, misinterpreted and misunderstood by the masses of a bygone era.
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10/12/2014 7:54:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/11/2014 11:29:27 AM, peaceseeker wrote:
When in this 21st Century, the Age of Technology, we are still plagued by religious beliefs that are the contributing cause toward terrorism, killings and wars between nations, it is due to misinformation about God.

When one believes in a deity who caused catastrophes, punished people and created the universe out of nothingness as if by magic, it is due to misinformation.

When the attributes of human characteristics to exercise upon others power, control, dominance, destruction, punishment, revenge, and judgment are blamed on a deity, it is due to misinformation.

When the destruction of civilizations, most sufferings and premature deaths that are due to human frailties, stupidity or imperfections, are blamed on a deity"s doings, it is due to misinformation.

When one represents that the deity that mankind calls by several names exists in a spiritual realm and never has and never will interfere with anything on earth or in the universe, this is verifiable scientific truth and NOT due to misinformation.

Our life on earth is to prepare us and to give us examples of the hereafter. Everything is progressive and accumulative. We are here to accumulate experiences of feelings, the beauty of every organism that surrounds us, the landscape that adds to our perception; then we can begin our next journey.

We should live our life to its fullest. One hundred years from now, almost every single person alive today will have died. Several billion people, wiped off the face of this earth. Our life is but a blip on the radar screen of time.

We are the most important person responsible for whether our soul will live or die. Here we have to learn how to intertwine with a community; there we can experience anything that the imagination can perceive.

Envision yourself as a spirit that is uninhibited by any resistance or external influences; you can travel to any star or planet instantly, explore the beauty of the universe, and still be in sync with God.

As an example: Imagine the most advanced form of Virtual Reality that can access a super-computer and place you in whichever setting you desire; you can play with the animals, be with your loved ones, listen to the greatest opera, stage or musical performances, or simply relax next to a bubbling brook and enjoy the scenery. You feel no pain, despair, heartache, or negative emotions; your spirit is now a part of God my friend.

God's people who plagiarize the writings of quantum physicists and cosmologists are liars who are trying to exalt themselves above others.

These quantum physicists and cosmologists along with all religious people have no idea that we exist as characters within God's dream.
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10/13/2014 1:07:27 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/11/2014 4:22:08 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
so whats your point here?

Ideology change is sorely needed in religions in order to stop the killings for Allah.

While they at the same time find their justification in islamic scripture, the example made by Mohammed and their own beliefs. Is it possible to be a muslim and not believe that killing infidels is a great duty? Of course. If western military intervention is the problem alone, why do they kill shiites, kurds and christians? What do they have to do with westerners? Why do they kill sunnis who don't agree with them? Naturally, they are motivated to some extent by infidel troops moving into the muslim world. But this is just another thing which is clearly related to islam and the way the quran and the hadith mandates you to handle those you consider to be islam's enemies.

1.Mohammad was persecuted much in the same way Jesus was persecuted, both suffered for their religious beliefs. What makes their situations so unique is that they both lived devoted to the same God, the God of Moses, and Abraham. Mohammad claimed to have been brought to heaven by the Angel Gabriel; in heaven he reportedly saw Abraham, and Jesus. Mohammad held Jesus as a much-respected prophet of God. When Mohammad began preaching Jews persecuted him for his strong belief in Jesus and his teachings. Mohammad repeatedly was prosecuted for his faith in God and his backing of Jesus.
Mohammad"s" last public sermon decried that Muslims, and followers of all religions with the belief in the one true God, should live in brotherhood and tolerance. Soon after this sermon Mohammad passed on. So what has happened to this message? Have the politically driven Islamic leaders of today hijacked and bastardized a religion, and its religious decree, meant to preserve peace and harmony? How can Mohammad have preached so much about tolerance yet radical Muslim leaders of today spout nothing but hate and hate filled rhetoric?
If you read about Mohammad"s teachings you will see that he was disgusted in issues that involved persecution, or discrimination based on religion. Conversely, you have some Muslim leaders around the world crying out that Jews should be destroyed, or Christians should be obliterated.
Don"t most Muslims remember that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, are all considered faiths of the book ? Don"t they see how similar our beliefs are? Have they forgotten how hallowed Mohammad held Jesus and his teachings? How can these Radical Islamic individuals spout so much hatred in the name of Islam when it is so contradictory to its belief base? I ask you now, who is the real enemy of Islam, is it the brothers and sisters of believers or is it the Imams, and Islamic Presidents, who use Islam as a sword when it cuts to their needs?
I love Muslims and their beliefs; I despise the leaders who hi-jack this religion to further their own needs and desires. It"s time the Muslim populations take a look at the real teachings of Islam and then ask themselves, who is the real enemy of Mohammad"s" teachings?
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10/13/2014 1:12:26 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/12/2014 7:54:57 PM, bornofgod wrote:
As an example: Imagine the most advanced form of Virtual Reality that can access a super-computer and place you in whichever setting you desire; you can play with the animals, be with your loved ones, listen to the greatest opera, stage or musical performances, or simply relax next to a bubbling brook and enjoy the scenery. You feel no pain, despair, heartache, or negative emotions; your spirit is now a part of God my friend.

God's people who plagiarize the writings of quantum physicists and cosmologists are liars who are trying to exalt themselves above others.

These quantum physicists and cosmologists along with all religious people have no idea that we exist as characters within God's dream.

Boundless and infinite truth with a united - as one yet distinct spirit, one love, is our spiritual destiny.
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10/13/2014 2:55:38 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/13/2014 1:07:27 AM, peaceseeker wrote:
At 10/11/2014 4:22:08 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
so whats your point here?

Ideology change is sorely needed in religions in order to stop the killings for Allah.

While they at the same time find their justification in islamic scripture, the example made by Mohammed and their own beliefs. Is it possible to be a muslim and not believe that killing infidels is a great duty? Of course. If western military intervention is the problem alone, why do they kill shiites, kurds and christians? What do they have to do with westerners? Why do they kill sunnis who don't agree with them? Naturally, they are motivated to some extent by infidel troops moving into the muslim world. But this is just another thing which is clearly related to islam and the way the quran and the hadith mandates you to handle those you consider to be islam's enemies.

1.Mohammad was persecuted much in the same way Jesus was persecuted, both suffered for their religious beliefs. What makes their situations so unique is that they both lived devoted to the same God, the God of Moses, and Abraham. Mohammad claimed to have been brought to heaven by the Angel Gabriel; in heaven he reportedly saw Abraham, and Jesus. Mohammad held Jesus as a much-respected prophet of God. When Mohammad began preaching Jews persecuted him for his strong belief in Jesus and his teachings. Mohammad repeatedly was prosecuted for his faith in God and his backing of Jesus.
Mohammad"s" last public sermon decried that Muslims, and followers of all religions with the belief in the one true God, should live in brotherhood and tolerance. Soon after this sermon Mohammad passed on. So what has happened to this message? Have the politically driven Islamic leaders of today hijacked and bastardized a religion, and its religious decree, meant to preserve peace and harmony? How can Mohammad have preached so much about tolerance yet radical Muslim leaders of today spout nothing but hate and hate filled rhetoric?
If you read about Mohammad"s teachings you will see that he was disgusted in issues that involved persecution, or discrimination based on religion. Conversely, you have some Muslim leaders around the world crying out that Jews should be destroyed, or Christians should be obliterated.
Don"t most Muslims remember that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, are all considered faiths of the book ? Don"t they see how similar our beliefs are? Have they forgotten how hallowed Mohammad held Jesus and his teachings? How can these Radical Islamic individuals spout so much hatred in the name of Islam when it is so contradictory to its belief base? I ask you now, who is the real enemy of Islam, is it the brothers and sisters of believers or is it the Imams, and Islamic Presidents, who use Islam as a sword when it cuts to their needs?
I love Muslims and their beliefs; I despise the leaders who hi-jack this religion to further their own needs and desires. It"s time the Muslim populations take a look at the real teachings of Islam and then ask themselves, who is the real enemy of Mohammad"s" teachings?

Mohammed was excomunicated from Mecka because he talked sh1t about the leadership in the town and denounced their worship of idols. Guess what would happen if I went to Mecka today and started talking greasy about Islam. Do you think I would be excommunicated? They would behead me on spot. So double standards...
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10/13/2014 8:36:51 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/13/2014 1:12:26 AM, peaceseeker wrote:
At 10/12/2014 7:54:57 PM, bornofgod wrote:
As an example: Imagine the most advanced form of Virtual Reality that can access a super-computer and place you in whichever setting you desire; you can play with the animals, be with your loved ones, listen to the greatest opera, stage or musical performances, or simply relax next to a bubbling brook and enjoy the scenery. You feel no pain, despair, heartache, or negative emotions; your spirit is now a part of God my friend.

God's people who plagiarize the writings of quantum physicists and cosmologists are liars who are trying to exalt themselves above others.

These quantum physicists and cosmologists along with all religious people have no idea that we exist as characters within God's dream.

Boundless and infinite truth with a united - as one yet distinct spirit, one love, is our spiritual destiny.

We've always been in the thoughts of God since He created us.
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10/13/2014 9:54:29 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/13/2014 2:55:38 AM, Demetriuscapone wrote:
At 10/13/2014 1:07:27 AM, peaceseeker wrote:

Mohammed was excomunicated from Mecka because he talked sh1t about the leadership in the town and denounced their worship of idols. Guess what would happen if I went to Mecka today and started talking greasy about Islam. Do you think I would be excommunicated? They would behead me on spot. So double standards...

That is why Ideology change is sorely needed in religions in order to stop the killings for Allah. The philosophy within the book can possibly be the starting point that is needed to educate and change the ideology of the Muslims who are now committing dastardly terrorist attacks against innocent civilians.
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The book is 607 pages for $0.99 at http://www.amazon.com...
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10/13/2014 10:07:32 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/12/2014 12:43:22 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 10/11/2014 10:25:25 PM, peaceseeker wrote:
At 10/11/2014 4:22:08 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
so whats your point here?

Ideology change is sorely needed in religions in order to stop the killings for Allah.

nobody kills for Allah.... they justifying their killing for revenge using Islam,Allah and what have you... even these stupid ISIS fighters.... here see this from vice news talking to member from "Islamic state" in iraq:
https://www.youtube.com...

What about ISIS is stupid, in your opinion?

they are angry as sh1t its not problem of Islam, its for revenge as they define it towards Westren military in middle east.
"You don't have a right to be a jerk."
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10/13/2014 12:48:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/13/2014 10:07:32 AM, Fly wrote:
At 10/12/2014 12:43:22 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 10/11/2014 10:25:25 PM, peaceseeker wrote:
At 10/11/2014 4:22:08 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
so whats your point here?

Ideology change is sorely needed in religions in order to stop the killings for Allah.

nobody kills for Allah.... they justifying their killing for revenge using Islam,Allah and what have you... even these stupid ISIS fighters.... here see this from vice news talking to member from "Islamic state" in iraq:
https://www.youtube.com...

What about ISIS is stupid, in your opinion?

they are angry as sh1t its not problem of Islam, its for revenge as they define it towards Westren military in middle east.

ISIS terrorists kill & die in order to expand Islam for Allah. They do not realize that death of another human whose soul has not had a chance to reconcile with Allah means death to the soul of the killer....wasted lives and wasted souls.
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10/13/2014 1:05:09 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/12/2014 2:03:43 AM, peaceseeker wrote:
At 10/12/2014 1:46:27 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 10/12/2014 12:52:01 AM, Beastt wrote:
Provide...
1. Objective evidence for God
2. Objective evidence of a "hereafter".
3. Objective evidence of a "soul".

NONE...only spiritual evidence...but the objective here is to have Ideology change in religions in order to stop terrorism.

That's a rather naive statement... Shouldn't the objective be to raise consciousness to the level of reality so that fantasy-induced retardation stops happening EVERYWHERE? If we spent just half the money that we spend fighting these wars on an irrigation system throughout Africa, the poor there would be able to feed themselves. Additionally, how much more would we be able to contribute, as a nation, if we lifted the "sanctity" veil off of religion and started taxing its revenue like the business it is? Essentially we could house all of the jobless/homeless, and pay for all of welfare...

Now, would you mind showing us some of this "spiritual evidence?"
"Never attribute to villainy that which can be adequately explained by stupidity"
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"Men rarely if ever dream up a god superior to themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child. "

-- Robert A Heinlein
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10/13/2014 3:05:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/13/2014 1:07:27 AM, peaceseeker wrote:
At 10/11/2014 4:22:08 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
so whats your point here?

Ideology change is sorely needed in religions in order to stop the killings for Allah.

While they at the same time find their justification in islamic scripture, the example made by Mohammed and their own beliefs. Is it possible to be a muslim and not believe that killing infidels is a great duty? Of course. If western military intervention is the problem alone, why do they kill shiites, kurds and christians? What do they have to do with westerners? Why do they kill sunnis who don't agree with them? Naturally, they are motivated to some extent by infidel troops moving into the muslim world. But this is just another thing which is clearly related to islam and the way the quran and the hadith mandates you to handle those you consider to be islam's enemies.

1.Mohammad was persecuted much in the same way Jesus was persecuted, both suffered for their religious beliefs. What makes their situations so unique is that they both lived devoted to the same God, the God of Moses, and Abraham. Mohammad claimed to have been brought to heaven by the Angel Gabriel; in heaven he reportedly saw Abraham, and Jesus. Mohammad held Jesus as a much-respected prophet of God. When Mohammad began preaching Jews persecuted him for his strong belief in Jesus and his teachings. Mohammad repeatedly was prosecuted for his faith in God and his backing of Jesus.
Mohammad"s" last public sermon decried that Muslims, and followers of all religions with the belief in the one true God, should live in brotherhood and tolerance. Soon after this sermon Mohammad passed on. So what has happened to this message? Have the politically driven Islamic leaders of today hijacked and bastardized a religion, and its religious decree, meant to preserve peace and harmony? How can Mohammad have preached so much about tolerance yet radical Muslim leaders of today spout nothing but hate and hate filled rhetoric?
If you read about Mohammad"s teachings you will see that he was disgusted in issues that involved persecution, or discrimination based on religion. Conversely, you have some Muslim leaders around the world crying out that Jews should be destroyed, or Christians should be obliterated.
Don"t most Muslims remember that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, are all considered faiths of the book ? Don"t they see how similar our beliefs are? Have they forgotten how hallowed Mohammad held Jesus and his teachings? How can these Radical Islamic individuals spout so much hatred in the name of Islam when it is so contradictory to its belief base? I ask you now, who is the real enemy of Islam, is it the brothers and sisters of believers or is it the Imams, and Islamic Presidents, who use Islam as a sword when it cuts to their needs?
I love Muslims and their beliefs; I despise the leaders who hi-jack this religion to further their own needs and desires. It"s time the Muslim populations take a look at the real teachings of Islam and then ask themselves, who is the real enemy of Mohammad"s" teachings?

I can see u dont have any knowledge about Islam the prophet mohhamed or iraq. Pure media product. I have some advices to u:

1 before talking crap learn about the subject.
2 turn off TV news.
3 dont spread here lies.

There is a groups in syria by the name 'islamic front' and others (muslims) who fighting ISIS, the kurds are muslims too. So its islam to blame? We r talking about war zone it has history and politics. Your USA and UK the freedom fighters ruining the world for resources and blaming the victims. Dont bullcrp here im sure u dont know what the meaning of islam or muslim.
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10/13/2014 3:12:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/13/2014 12:48:28 PM, peaceseeker wrote:
At 10/13/2014 10:07:32 AM, Fly wrote:
At 10/12/2014 12:43:22 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 10/11/2014 10:25:25 PM, peaceseeker wrote:
At 10/11/2014 4:22:08 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
so whats your point here?

Ideology change is sorely needed in religions in order to stop the killings for Allah.

nobody kills for Allah.... they justifying their killing for revenge using Islam,Allah and what have you... even these stupid ISIS fighters.... here see this from vice news talking to member from "Islamic state" in iraq:
https://www.youtube.com...

What about ISIS is stupid, in your opinion?

they are angry as sh1t its not problem of Islam, its for revenge as they define it towards Westren military in middle east.

ISIS terrorists kill & die in order to expand Islam for Allah. They do not realize that death of another human whose soul has not had a chance to reconcile with Allah means death to the soul of the killer....wasted lives and wasted souls.

Did u watch the video anyway? Probably not. You look stupid what u have to push every time Allah and Islam moron i just told you what they saying... dont attack us we wont attack u..
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10/13/2014 3:51:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/13/2014 10:07:32 AM, Fly wrote:
What about ISIS is stupid, in your opinion?

you tell me.
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10/13/2014 4:59:23 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/13/2014 10:07:32 AM, Fly wrote:
At 10/11/2014 10:25:25 PM, peaceseeker wrote:
nobody kills for Allah.... they justifying their killing for revenge using Islam,Allah and what have you... even these stupid ISIS fighters.... here see this from vice news talking to member from "Islamic state" in iraq:
https://www.youtube.com...

What about ISIS is stupid, in your opinion?

ISIS terrorists kill & die in order to expand Islam for Allah. They do not realize that death of another human whose soul has not had a chance to reconcile with Allah means death to the soul of the killer....wasted lives and wasted souls.

Did u watch the video anyway? Probably not. You look stupid what u have to push every time Allah and Islam moron i just told you what they saying... dont attack us we wont attack u..

I watched the video & agree that, just like Muslims, the West is also needlessly killing many innocent people of the Islam faith....but this all can & must be stopped....and Ideology change, Transcendology is the only answer to these problems.

In this 21st Century, the Age of Technology, we are still plagued by religious beliefs that may be a contributing cause of terrorism, killings and wars between nations. Belief in a God/Allah who causes catastrophes, punishes people and who created the universe out of nothing as if by magic was brought about by hysteria and superstition. This thought process needs to be reassessed and brought up to date. Open-minded people must use common sense to determine whether mankind"s Allah/God was incorrectly perceived, misinterpreted and misunderstood by the masses of a bygone era.

If this collective, Allah/God consists of pure intelligence and pure logic then it cannot possibly be encumbered by human attributes. It has no needs or desires to be worshiped, prayed to, exalted, venerated, deified, or anything else that we have to offer. Religion characteristics are to exercise power upon others; control, dominance, destruction, punishment, revenge and judgment. Everyone is individually and personally responsible for his own soul's destiny if this collective exists. The destruction of civilizations, most sufferings and premature deaths are due to our frailties, our stupidity or human imperfections. The greatest fallacies are beliefs that split people, religions and countries.

Transcendology explores the possibility of spiritual transcendence. Its goal is to determine if the energy in our spirit dies with our body upon our physical demise or if it can pass into another dimension; a collective, an existence that has been called Allah/God by mankind. Is our spirit capable of receiving inspiration therefrom and can it establish lines of communication with this other dimension, as claimed by Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, etc.; prophets who established monotheistic religions? Upon our physical demise, can our spirit enter into a spiritual realm to be united with this spiritual collective, this government that guides the development of our universe like a master planner? Could this be a collective that consists of all of the knowledge that has ever existed in the universe? Is the purpose of our life to gather experiences that will add to the progressiveness of this collective, Allah/God?