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4/18/2010 6:33:23 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I can't support this so it's more of a question than a statement.

I heard that their is evidence to support Jesus traveled to the far east sometime in his childhood and while staying there became heavily influenced by Buddhism. This would explain for a lot, no? I mean Jesus' ideas were not original, they have a lot in common with Buddhism which is a bit older than Christianity. Jesus had been told he was the son of God so it's not like he's going to let go of Judaism if this really happened. Christianity my possibly be a failed experiment in attempting to mix together two completely incompatible religions.
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4/18/2010 6:40:06 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/18/2010 6:35:16 PM, Koopin wrote:
Ha ha ha... Funny

Yes, Christianity is quite funny isn't it. HAHAHA
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4/18/2010 6:43:12 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I've heard that later Daoist's said that Buddha was really just Laozi (who himself may not even have existed...who knows..) who had later traveled to India..

I doubt it, but there's similarities there too.
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4/18/2010 6:44:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Yes, Jesus studied Buddhism, this is almost certain. Manly P Hall has confirmed this in his book, "The Secret Teachings of All Ages."

There are manuscripts in the Himalayas that document his travel to that region. Also, the Gnostic Gospels (the true teachings of Jesus) have blatant parallels with Buddhism.

No, Jesus did not try to merge Judaism and Buddhism nor did he intend on creating any religion.

He also didn't claim to be the son of God in the traditionally understood manner. He believed we are all Gods. He also said that people will not point to the kingdom of God and say "there it is" because the kingdom of God is within you.
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4/18/2010 6:46:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/18/2010 6:43:12 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
I've heard that later Daoist's said that Buddha was really just Laozi (who himself may not even have existed...who knows..) who had later traveled to India..

I doubt it, but there's similarities there too.

No. Just no.

They were both wise and thus had similar Enlightened teachings, but they are not the same person.
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4/18/2010 6:47:24 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/18/2010 6:44:18 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Yes, Jesus studied Buddhism, this is almost certain. Manly P Hall has confirmed this in his book, "The Secret Teachings of All Ages."

There are manuscripts in the Himalayas that document his travel to that region. Also, the Gnostic Gospels (the true teachings of Jesus) have blatant parallels with Buddhism.

No, Jesus did not try to merge Judaism and Buddhism nor did he intend on creating any religion.

He also didn't claim to be the son of God in the traditionally understood manner. He believed we are all Gods. He also said that people will not point to the kingdom of God and say "there it is" because the kingdom of God is within you.

May I see some of these texts? And may you explain how they have been validated?
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4/18/2010 6:48:39 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/18/2010 6:43:12 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
I've heard that later Daoist's said that Buddha was really just Laozi (who himself may not even have existed...who knows..) who had later traveled to India..

I doubt it, but there's similarities there too.

It's all making sense now... The trinity is the super buddha/jesus/laozi godman who walked around the world between the years 500BC-60AD..
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4/19/2010 12:44:29 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
"Early Christian records are known to exist in Tibet, and the monks of a Buddhist monastery in Ceylon still preserve a record which indicates that Jesus sojourned with them and became conversant with their philosophy.

Although early Christianity shows every evidence of Oriental influence, this is a subject the modern church declines to discuss. If it is ever established beyond question that Jesus was an initiate of the pagan Greek or Asiatic Mysteries, the effect upon the more conservative members of the Christian faith is likely to be cataclysmic."


-- Manly P. Hall (33rd Degree Freemason, founder of the Philosophical Research Society)

[1] The Secret Teachings of All Ages, pg. 582; Manly P. Hall
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4/19/2010 12:49:50 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/19/2010 12:44:29 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
"Early Christian records are known to exist in Tibet, and the monks of a Buddhist monastery in Ceylon still preserve a record which indicates that Jesus sojourned with them and became conversant with their philosophy.

Although early Christianity shows every evidence of Oriental influence, this is a subject the modern church declines to discuss. If it is ever established beyond question that Jesus was an initiate of the pagan Greek or Asiatic Mysteries, the effect upon the more conservative members of the Christian faith is likely to be cataclysmic."


-- Manly P. Hall (33rd Degree Freemason, founder of the Philosophical Research Society)

[1] The Secret Teachings of All Ages, pg. 582; Manly P. Hall

It's funny how you showed he was a 33rd degree freemason, as if that gives him more credibility.
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4/19/2010 1:00:40 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/19/2010 12:49:50 AM, FREEDO wrote:
It's funny how you showed he was a 33rd degree freemason, as if that gives him more credibility.

It does give him more credibility. He was initiated into the deep and ancient mysteries.
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4/19/2010 1:28:48 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/18/2010 6:40:06 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 4/18/2010 6:35:16 PM, Koopin wrote:
Ha ha ha... Funny

Yes, Christianity is quite funny isn't it. HAHAHA

1 Corinthians 1:18 (King James Version)

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God".
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4/19/2010 2:26:53 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/19/2010 1:00:40 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 4/19/2010 12:49:50 AM, FREEDO wrote:
It's funny how you showed he was a 33rd degree freemason, as if that gives him more credibility.

It does give him more credibility. He was initiated into the deep and ancient mysteries.

Ooooh.
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4/19/2010 2:32:44 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/19/2010 1:28:48 AM, the-good-teacher wrote:
At 4/18/2010 6:40:06 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 4/18/2010 6:35:16 PM, Koopin wrote:
Ha ha ha... Funny

Yes, Christianity is quite funny isn't it. HAHAHA

1 Corinthians 1:18 (King James Version)

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God".

'It is easier for lasagna to pass through the holes of a colander than it is for a rich person to enter Paradise." - Ishmali Camuwundra
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4/19/2010 11:49:36 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/19/2010 8:07:54 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Sorry, how are the Gnostic gospels real?

A better question is, how is the Bible real. The Gnostic Gospels are the true teachings of Jesus that were cast out of the Bible and burned by the Catholic Church.

And as a sidenote, when discussing Jesus and the parallels with Buddhism, were talking about the real Jesus, not the Biblical Jesus.

Thomas' right?

There's more than that. Gospel of Mary was one as well, can't remember the others.
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4/19/2010 11:57:31 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Didn't Jesus travel to Egypt to study? Egypt and India had good enough trade links that cleopatra considered the latter a suitable place to seek refuge.
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4/19/2010 2:03:16 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/19/2010 11:57:31 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
Didn't Jesus travel to Egypt to study? Egypt and India had good enough trade links that cleopatra considered the latter a suitable place to seek refuge.

I'm not sure about Egypt but I know that he was also influenced by Greek thought as well, which coincidentally, the Greeks were influenced slightly by Eastern philosophy.

I know Pythagoras was a Buddhist surprisingly.
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4/19/2010 2:05:26 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/19/2010 2:03:16 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 4/19/2010 11:57:31 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
Didn't Jesus travel to Egypt to study? Egypt and India had good enough trade links that cleopatra considered the latter a suitable place to seek refuge.

I'm not sure about Egypt but I know that he was also influenced by Greek thought as well, which coincidentally, the Greeks were influenced slightly by Eastern philosophy.

I know Pythagoras was a Buddhist surprisingly.

An actual Buddhist, or just coincidentally of the same opinions?!
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4/20/2010 3:04:08 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/18/2010 6:33:23 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I can't support this so it's more of a question than a statement.

I heard that their is evidence to support Jesus traveled to the far east sometime in his childhood and while staying there became heavily influenced by Buddhism. This would explain for a lot, no? I mean Jesus' ideas were not original, they have a lot in common with Buddhism which is a bit older than Christianity. Jesus had been told he was the son of God so it's not like he's going to let go of Judaism if this really happened. Christianity my possibly be a failed experiment in attempting to mix together two completely incompatible religions.

"I can't support this" so I'll ignore it..
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4/20/2010 3:11:38 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 3:04:08 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
"I can't support this" so I'll ignore it..

He can't support it, but I can. Did you purposefully ignore my previous post?

GeoLaureate8 wrote:
"Early Christian records are known to exist in Tibet, and the monks of a Buddhist monastery in Ceylon still preserve a record which indicates that Jesus sojourned with them and became conversant with their philosophy.

Although early Christianity shows every evidence of Oriental influence, this is a subject the modern church declines to discuss. If it is ever established beyond question that Jesus was an initiate of the pagan Greek or Asiatic Mysteries, the effect upon the more conservative members of the Christian faith is likely to be cataclysmic."

-- Manly P. Hall (33rd Degree Freemason, founder of the Philosophical Research Society)
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat