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4/20/2010 12:25:22 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 12:23:02 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Remove existence or make live as basic as possible.

Why?
I could give a f about no haters as long as my ishes love me.
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4/20/2010 12:27:19 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 12:25:22 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:23:02 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Remove existence or make live as basic as possible.

Why?

Depression would be my guess.
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4/20/2010 12:30:38 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
If I were God, I would let man suffer for 100,000 years. Then when man gets too corrupt, I would rape a female in the Middle-East to give birth to myself in physical form. Then my forsaken son/self would then live for 33 years waiting to suffer an excruciating crucifixion to forgive the sins of mankind. Then after another 3,000 years have passed, I would hold a final judgment of mankind and save all the individuals who accepted my self-sacrifice for their sins and the rest will parish.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
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"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
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4/20/2010 12:31:54 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 12:30:38 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
If I were God, I would let man suffer for 100,000 years. Then when man gets too corrupt, I would rape a female in the Middle-East to give birth to myself in physical form. Then my forsaken son/self would then live for 33 years waiting to suffer an excruciating crucifixion to forgive the sins of mankind. Then after another 3,000 years have passed, I would hold a final judgment of mankind and save all the individuals who accepted my self-sacrifice for their sins and the rest will parish.

LMFAO!
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4/20/2010 12:37:21 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 12:25:22 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:23:02 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Remove existence or make live as basic as possible.

Why?

Imperfection is bad. Perfection or Nothing I guess.

Freedo - lol @ depression, maybe but don't think so.
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4/20/2010 12:42:39 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 12:37:21 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:25:22 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:23:02 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Remove existence or make live as basic as possible.

Why?

Imperfection is bad. Perfection or Nothing I guess.

Freedo - lol @ depression, maybe but don't think so.

Why is imperfection bad? And what do you think is perfection?
I could give a f about no haters as long as my ishes love me.
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4/20/2010 12:45:53 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I can't believe it's so popular to capitulate one's self to an insignificant piece of a weak, pathetic, lonely, forsaken, suffering mankind when postulating the presence of a God.
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4/20/2010 12:46:46 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 12:42:39 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:37:21 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:25:22 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:23:02 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Remove existence or make live as basic as possible.

Why?

Imperfection is bad. Perfection or Nothing I guess.

Freedo - lol @ depression, maybe but don't think so.

Why is imperfection bad? And what do you think is perfection?

As god I'd be omniscience. So that wisdom would shape perfection.

I think perfection is impossible. I think ultimate happiness is perfection, happiness is relative.
'sup DDO -- july 2013
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4/20/2010 12:47:43 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 12:45:53 AM, Ren wrote:
I can't believe it's so popular to capitulate one's self to an insignificant piece of a weak, pathetic, lonely, forsaken, suffering mankind when postulating the presence of a God.

You can thank the Abrahamic religions for that idea.
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"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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4/20/2010 12:49:23 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 12:46:46 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:42:39 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:37:21 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:25:22 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:23:02 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Remove existence or make live as basic as possible.

Why?

Imperfection is bad. Perfection or Nothing I guess.

Freedo - lol @ depression, maybe but don't think so.

Why is imperfection bad? And what do you think is perfection?

As god I'd be omniscience. So that wisdom would shape perfection.

I think perfection is impossible. I think ultimate happiness is perfection, happiness is relative.

Perfection can not be relative. Contradiction. Is god perfection to you?
I could give a f about no haters as long as my ishes love me.
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4/20/2010 12:52:04 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
There's actually not much I would change.

I would get rid of unbearable pain, unbearable negative emotion, basically all extreme displeasure.

I would create the world with much more resources.

I would make myself present to people. When they pray to me, I talk back.

And I would have a much different moral code than the one depicted in the bible.
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4/20/2010 12:54:25 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 12:52:04 AM, FREEDO wrote:
There's actually not much I would change.

I would get rid of unbearable pain, unbearable negative emotion, basically all extreme displeasure.

I would create the world with much more resources.

I would make myself present to people. When they pray to me, I talk back.

And I would have a much different moral code than the one depicted in the bible.

Why not go all the way and make us perfect?
'sup DDO -- july 2013
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4/20/2010 12:56:30 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 12:54:25 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Why not go all the way and make us perfect?

The idea of perfection is contradictory. If there is perfection then, there is also non-perfection. If not everything is perfect, then there is no true perfection.

Also, you fail to define "perfect."
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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4/20/2010 12:56:55 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 12:54:25 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:52:04 AM, FREEDO wrote:
There's actually not much I would change.

I would get rid of unbearable pain, unbearable negative emotion, basically all extreme displeasure.

I would create the world with much more resources.

I would make myself present to people. When they pray to me, I talk back.

And I would have a much different moral code than the one depicted in the bible.

Why not go all the way and make us perfect?

A static world would seem so bleak to me. People need to be able to discover, to build, to grow. I would do everything possible to give them that but without such extreme consequences of failure we have now.
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4/20/2010 1:01:05 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Perfect - An impossible state of Life. Perfection is the achievement of all happiness,

If I was omnipotent I'd do this to everyone. Z utopia this impossible but I'm god after all.
'sup DDO -- july 2013
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4/20/2010 1:01:23 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 12:56:55 AM, FREEDO wrote:
A static world would seem so bleak to me. People need to be able to discover, to build, to grow. I would do everything possible to give them that but without such extreme consequences of failure we have now.

Agreed. You can't have the good without contrast with the bad. You can't grow, progress, or advance if there are no challenges.

What makes a video game fun? Bad guys, challenges, and progress.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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4/20/2010 1:03:44 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
The moral code I would set forth would be one that places the pursuit of reason as it's highest tenet.
Secondarily, I would teach to pursue your own happiness in whatever ways are least detrimental to the happiness of others and at the same time pursue the happiness of others in whatever ways are least detrimental to your own.
It's all about making yourself and others happy and the best way of doing that by advancing your own knowledge and teaching others.
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4/20/2010 1:05:14 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 12:49:23 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:46:46 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:42:39 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:37:21 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:25:22 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:23:02 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Remove existence or make live as basic as possible.

Why?

Imperfection is bad. Perfection or Nothing I guess.

Freedo - lol @ depression, maybe but don't think so.

Why is imperfection bad? And what do you think is perfection?

As god I'd be omniscience. So that wisdom would shape perfection.

I think perfection is impossible. I think ultimate happiness is perfection, happiness is relative.


Perfection can not be relative. Contradiction. Is god perfection to you?

Happiness is different for everyone. If I could make everyone happy then yeah but I can't.

By Logic: God is not perfect, he has reasons for doing things, which means he is acting to a concution.

Acting to a conclusion cannot be perfection as a conclusion is a means to fulfill. All actions are working to a goal.
'sup DDO -- july 2013
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4/20/2010 1:07:46 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 1:03:44 AM, FREEDO wrote:
The moral code I would set forth would be one that places the pursuit of reason as it's highest tenet.
'~' Why reason? To learn is a goal just make people omniscience problem solved.

Your other reasons are great.
'sup DDO -- july 2013
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4/20/2010 1:10:38 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 1:01:23 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:56:55 AM, FREEDO wrote:
A static world would seem so bleak to me. People need to be able to discover, to build, to grow. I would do everything possible to give them that but without such extreme consequences of failure we have now.

Agreed. You can't have the good without contrast with the bad. You can't grow, progress, or advance if there are no challenges.

What makes a video game fun? Bad guys, challenges, and progress.

A god finds a way to make things possible, a new set of logic or laws of thinking. Your omnipotent but your thinking inside the human dimensiosn, think God like.
'sup DDO -- july 2013
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4/20/2010 1:39:00 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 1:10:38 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 4/20/2010 1:01:23 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:56:55 AM, FREEDO wrote:
A static world would seem so bleak to me. People need to be able to discover, to build, to grow. I would do everything possible to give them that but without such extreme consequences of failure we have now.

Agreed. You can't have the good without contrast with the bad. You can't grow, progress, or advance if there are no challenges.

What makes a video game fun? Bad guys, challenges, and progress.

A god finds a way to make things possible, a new set of logic or laws of thinking. Your omnipotent but your thinking inside the human dimensiosn, think God like.

As God, I would already have everything I need. I could enjoy an absolute state of happiness. The only point of creating creation would be for creations sake. So you must actually think from the creations perspective if we're actually talking about having it at all.
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4/20/2010 1:42:16 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 1:39:00 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 4/20/2010 1:10:38 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 4/20/2010 1:01:23 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:56:55 AM, FREEDO wrote:
A static world would seem so bleak to me. People need to be able to discover, to build, to grow. I would do everything possible to give them that but without such extreme consequences of failure we have now.

Agreed. You can't have the good without contrast with the bad. You can't grow, progress, or advance if there are no challenges.

What makes a video game fun? Bad guys, challenges, and progress.

A god finds a way to make things possible, a new set of logic or laws of thinking. Your omnipotent but your thinking inside the human dimensiosn, think God like.

As God, I would already have everything I need. I could enjoy an absolute state of happiness. The only point of creating creation would be for creations sake. So you must actually think from the creations perspective if we're actually talking about having it at all.

So bend the rules so it's possible for both.
'sup DDO -- july 2013
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4/20/2010 1:43:54 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 1:42:16 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 4/20/2010 1:39:00 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 4/20/2010 1:10:38 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 4/20/2010 1:01:23 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 4/20/2010 12:56:55 AM, FREEDO wrote:
A static world would seem so bleak to me. People need to be able to discover, to build, to grow. I would do everything possible to give them that but without such extreme consequences of failure we have now.

Agreed. You can't have the good without contrast with the bad. You can't grow, progress, or advance if there are no challenges.

What makes a video game fun? Bad guys, challenges, and progress.

A god finds a way to make things possible, a new set of logic or laws of thinking. Your omnipotent but your thinking inside the human dimensiosn, think God like.

As God, I would already have everything I need. I could enjoy an absolute state of happiness. The only point of creating creation would be for creations sake. So you must actually think from the creations perspective if we're actually talking about having it at all.

So bend the rules so it's possible for both.

Both of what? I don't think you understood what I said.
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4/20/2010 1:49:54 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I have a question for something else that is vaguely related to this and I need answered.

Is more than one form of perfection possible? Or does perfection imply being the ONE greatest thing?
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4/20/2010 4:50:23 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
If I were God I'd settle all the arguments between the various religions about whose deity is false and whose is the real deal by coming down to Earth and challenging The Pope, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Osama bin Laden, the Dalai Lama, the Chief Rabbi and Tom Cruise to a fight.

I'd take them all on at the same time, blind-folded with both my hands tied behind my back and smite them all with bolts of lightening that I would summon from the heavens.

Then I'd conjure up a dragon, climb on it's back and fly around the world destroying perpetrators of evil such as:

Ruthless, murdering drug-dealers;
Paedophiles;
Terrorists;
People who intend to vote Tory in the British General Election.
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4/20/2010 5:41:56 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/20/2010 12:30:38 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
If I were God, I would let man suffer for 100,000 years. Then when man gets too corrupt, I would rape a female in the Middle-East to give birth to myself in physical form. Then my forsaken son/self would then live for 33 years waiting to suffer an excruciating crucifixion to forgive the sins of mankind. Then after another 3,000 years have passed, I would hold a final judgment of mankind and save all the individuals who accepted my self-sacrifice for their sins and the rest will parish.

where did you get the number 3,000 for time to pass before judgement?
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

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