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11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.
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11/7/2014 4:36:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

You think they will have sex, and if so, will it be limited to the missionary position? :-)
This thread is like eavesdropping on a conversation in a mental asylum. - Bulproof

You can call your invisible friends whatever you like. - Desmac

What the hell kind of coked up sideshow has this thread turned into. - Casten
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11/7/2014 4:39:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

Do they have toilets in heaven? If you eat you must excrete. What happens to the waste?

What you describe sounds very much like life on Earth. What a coincidence!
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11/7/2014 4:53:23 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/7/2014 4:39:53 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

Do they have toilets in heaven? If you eat you must excrete. What happens to the waste?

What you describe sounds very much like life on Earth. What a coincidence!

When they've got enough they flush it down to earth as a politician.
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11/7/2014 7:19:07 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

How do you purport to know so much about a place that has never even been demonstrated to exist?
How do you purport to know so much about a place you've never been?
How do you purport to know so much about a place that can't be accessed, from the physical realm of reality?
How do you purport to know so much about a place whose "rules" you couldn't possibly have learned?
You're actully trying to tell us what heaven is and is not. You have never been there, seen it, or experienced any of it. Why would you come on here and tell all of us what heaven is/isn't like?
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11/8/2014 6:10:12 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/7/2014 4:53:23 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:39:53 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

Do they have toilets in heaven? If you eat you must excrete. What happens to the waste?

What you describe sounds very much like life on Earth. What a coincidence!

When they've got enough they flush it down to earth as a politician.

And/or a rabid theist. nyuck nyuck nyuck.
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11/9/2014 6:47:24 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/7/2014 4:36:56 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

You think they will have sex, and if so, will it be limited to the missionary position? :-)

I think there is no need for reproduction, our time on Earth was for that purpose, also the powerful drive of sex is one of the reasons why we cling to our partner and contributes to the strong desire we have that binds man and women together, in Heaven that purpose is no longer needed but there will be stimulation for sure lol.
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11/9/2014 6:53:47 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/9/2014 6:47:24 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:36:56 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

You think they will have sex, and if so, will it be limited to the missionary position? :-)

I think there is no need for reproduction, our time on Earth was for that purpose, also the powerful drive of sex is one of the reasons why we cling to our partner and contributes to the strong desire we have that binds man and women together, in Heaven that purpose is no longer needed but there will be stimulation for sure lol.

And it will be provided by little androgynous angels, oh how splendid.
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11/9/2014 6:54:04 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/7/2014 4:39:53 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

Do they have toilets in heaven? If you eat you must excrete. What happens to the waste?

Not if the food is not physical :) we have no idea what is possible.

What you describe sounds very much like life on Earth. What a coincidence!

Yes like I explained.... our world reflects the spiritual, it has many similarities of course the spirit is different in that it doesn't decay, has no death or time and there are limits in the natural that are not in spirit, you would see many of the same things but the spirit has greater dimension and the beauty in Heaven is beyond mere description. How is that "coincidence"? The same God in Heaven is the same God that created....
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11/9/2014 7:08:26 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/7/2014 7:19:07 PM, ThinkFirst wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

How do you purport to know so much about a place that has never even been demonstrated to exist?

You can't "demonstrate" that Heaven exists.

How do you purport to know so much about a place you've never been?

I've been seeking the things of God for a long time, some things I know by what I've seen in the spirit, some things I know but what I've seen in scripture, some things I know by asking, by observing, some things I know by other trusted believers and some things I understand simply by logic ect. To answer your question the things I believe to be true are from experience and learning, but spiritual learning comes by spirit not always what we know and see in the flesh.

How do you purport to know so much about a place that can't be accessed, from the physical realm of reality?

It can be accessed by spirit, and you don't have to know what goes on in the spirit by going to Heaven, Heaven is not the only spiritual place, eternity and the spirit is everywhere our existence is inside of it.

How do you purport to know so much about a place whose "rules" you couldn't possibly have learned?

You can know some rules simply by knowing God and learning spiritual truth and reality.
You're actully trying to tell us what heaven is and is not. You have never been there, seen it, or experienced any of it. Why would you come on here and tell all of us what heaven is/isn't like?

Not trying to upset you at all, it's just something to think about.
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11/9/2014 7:33:43 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/7/2014 4:36:56 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

You think they will have sex, and if so, will it be limited to the missionary position? :-)

I would hope that it would be epic whatever the position.
A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral."
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11/9/2014 7:35:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/7/2014 4:53:23 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:39:53 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

Do they have toilets in heaven? If you eat you must excrete. What happens to the waste?

What you describe sounds very much like life on Earth. What a coincidence!

When they've got enough they flush it down to earth as a politician.

I've always wondered where politicians come from. Thanks!
A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral."
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11/9/2014 7:37:21 AM
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At 11/9/2014 6:47:24 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:36:56 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

You think they will have sex, and if so, will it be limited to the missionary position? :-)

I think there is no need for reproduction, our time on Earth was for that purpose, also the powerful drive of sex is one of the reasons why we cling to our partner and contributes to the strong desire we have that binds man and women together, in Heaven that purpose is no longer needed but there will be stimulation for sure lol.

Yay! Where do I sign up for heaven? =D
A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral."
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11/9/2014 7:51:38 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/9/2014 6:47:24 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:36:56 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

You think they will have sex, and if so, will it be limited to the missionary position? :-)

I think there is no need for reproduction, our time on Earth was for that purpose, also the powerful drive of sex is one of the reasons why we cling to our partner and contributes to the strong desire we have that binds man and women together, in Heaven that purpose is no longer needed but there will be stimulation for sure lol.

Ok, this brings up another question. What happens for men and women who have been married multiple times. They have "become one flesh" with multiple persons. Do they play mix and match?!
This thread is like eavesdropping on a conversation in a mental asylum. - Bulproof

You can call your invisible friends whatever you like. - Desmac

What the hell kind of coked up sideshow has this thread turned into. - Casten
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11/9/2014 7:55:02 AM
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At 11/9/2014 7:51:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/9/2014 6:47:24 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:36:56 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

You think they will have sex, and if so, will it be limited to the missionary position? :-)

I think there is no need for reproduction, our time on Earth was for that purpose, also the powerful drive of sex is one of the reasons why we cling to our partner and contributes to the strong desire we have that binds man and women together, in Heaven that purpose is no longer needed but there will be stimulation for sure lol.

Ok, this brings up another question. What happens for men and women who have been married multiple times. They have "become one flesh" with multiple persons. Do they play mix and match?!

If so I would think that it would be encouragement to remarry over and over again. Heaven is eternity and it could get pretty boring.
A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral."
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11/9/2014 8:21:14 AM
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At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

Do you know the meaning of the highlighted part of the verse you quoted...? If not, it means one of the attributes given to God is immutability; in other words, God does not change; God is, eternally, the same; God is static. God's values do not change; for, God is always perfectly good; God always desires the same thing, that which is perfect.

Therefore, Heaven is a reflection of God; it is perfect; there is no need or any room for change; all things will remain, eternally, the same. No one will ever get mad, disappointed, unhappy; your emotions will never fluctuate because you'll always be supremely happy without even a hint, or smidgen, of unhappiness.

Being all things are perfect and nothing is any better than anything else, you will never desire anything; for, with desire comes lack or want; and, you will lack nothing in Heaven. So, you will never hunger or thirst for food, knowledge, or anything else.

Being there will be no desire, there will be nothing to compel you to act; for, all your needs will be met.

You will remain the same like God and everyone else, never changing, never desiring anything, and eternally in a perfect state of bliss. You will have reached your goal, your perfection, your journey's end, and you'll be at rest.
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11/9/2014 11:20:10 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/9/2014 7:08:26 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 7:19:07 PM, ThinkFirst wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

How do you purport to know so much about a place that has never even been demonstrated to exist?

You can't "demonstrate" that Heaven exists.

This is exactly my point... You speak of it as though you are fully familiar with it. You speak as though you know what happens there. You speak as though you have a guide that depicts exactly what happens, and when. It doesn't exist. You don't know that "In heaven, you continue living..." You have no way of knowing what is and is not "permitted" in heaven...

How do you purport to know so much about a place you've never been?

I've been seeking the things of God for a long time, some things I know by what I've seen in the spirit, some things I know but what I've seen in scripture, some things I know by asking, by observing, some things I know by other trusted believers and some things I understand simply by logic ect. To answer your question the things I believe to be true are from experience and learning, but spiritual learning comes by spirit not always what we know and see in the flesh.

What is "seen in the spirit?" You know by asking whom? Who answered you? How can you "...understand by observing?" or "...by logic?" What could you possibly have "observed" about heaven? What "logic" could you possibly use to "KNOW" anything about a place that doesn't even exist?

How do you purport to know so much about a place that can't be accessed, from the physical realm of reality?

It can be accessed by spirit, and you don't have to know what goes on in the spirit by going to Heaven, Heaven is not the only spiritual place, eternity and the spirit is everywhere our existence is inside of it.

What is "accessed by spirit?" You're speaking biblebabblewoowoo. There is NO way for you to "KNOW" these things. You are making claims, and nothing else. None of what you wrote is anything that you can "KNOW." There is an huge difference between BELIEF and KNOWLEDGE. You don't seem to get that.

How do you purport to know so much about a place whose "rules" you couldn't possibly have learned?

You can know some rules simply by knowing God and learning spiritual truth and reality.

You "know" god, do you? Define "spiritual truth." How does it differ from "physical truth?" ...from "reality truth?"

You're actully trying to tell us what heaven is and is not. You have never been there, seen it, or experienced any of it. Why would you come on here and tell all of us what heaven is/isn't like?

Not trying to upset you at all, it's just something to think about.

I'm not upset. I just have a hard time fathoming a grown person delivering "facts" and "information" about Neverland, when they've never been there, and have no way of obtaining a single shred of "knowledge" about an unknowable place of fantasy fiction...
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11/9/2014 4:10:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/9/2014 6:54:04 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:39:53 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

Do they have toilets in heaven? If you eat you must excrete. What happens to the waste?

Not if the food is not physical :) we have no idea what is possible.

It's food Captain, but not as we know it! It has smell and taste and texture and nutrition but it is not physical. Beam me up, please!

So, here we have no idea what is possible.

What you describe sounds very much like life on Earth. What a coincidence!

Yes like I explained.... our world reflects the spiritual, it has many similarities of course the spirit is different in that it doesn't decay, has no death or time and there are limits in the natural that are not in spirit, you would see many of the same things but the spirit has greater dimension and the beauty in Heaven is beyond mere description. How is that "coincidence"? The same God in Heaven is the same God that created....

Then here you proceed to tell us details about heaven. Which you know, how exactly?

Don't you theists get tired of "making stuff up"?
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11/9/2014 4:33:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

Heaven is a state of mind which you can experience within yourself while you are alive. Once you are dead, you experience nothing.
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11/9/2014 4:36:44 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/9/2014 7:51:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/9/2014 6:47:24 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:36:56 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

You think they will have sex, and if so, will it be limited to the missionary position? :-)

I think there is no need for reproduction, our time on Earth was for that purpose, also the powerful drive of sex is one of the reasons why we cling to our partner and contributes to the strong desire we have that binds man and women together, in Heaven that purpose is no longer needed but there will be stimulation for sure lol.

Ok, this brings up another question. What happens for men and women who have been married multiple times. They have "become one flesh" with multiple persons. Do they play mix and match?!

Matt 22:28-30 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her. Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
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11/9/2014 4:46:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/9/2014 7:08:26 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 7:19:07 PM, ThinkFirst wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

How do you purport to know so much about a place that has never even been demonstrated to exist?

You can't "demonstrate" that Heaven exists.

Can you demonstrate that happiness, contentment and peace exist?
When you experience those states of mind you experience what can also be referred to as heaven. Heaven is a state of mind. So is hell.
Both are located in the minds and consciousness of humans. They are not some invisible locations in space.
When a person is going through hell or heaven on Earth, their state of mind is manifest through the way they act and react.
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11/9/2014 5:18:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/9/2014 4:36:44 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 11/9/2014 7:51:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/9/2014 6:47:24 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:36:56 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

You think they will have sex, and if so, will it be limited to the missionary position? :-)

I think there is no need for reproduction, our time on Earth was for that purpose, also the powerful drive of sex is one of the reasons why we cling to our partner and contributes to the strong desire we have that binds man and women together, in Heaven that purpose is no longer needed but there will be stimulation for sure lol.

Ok, this brings up another question. What happens for men and women who have been married multiple times. They have "become one flesh" with multiple persons. Do they play mix and match?!

Matt 22:28-30 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her. Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

I realized that right after I posted it. No sex in heaven I suppose. O.o
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11/10/2014 4:47:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/9/2014 7:51:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/9/2014 6:47:24 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:36:56 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

You think they will have sex, and if so, will it be limited to the missionary position? :-)

I think there is no need for reproduction, our time on Earth was for that purpose, also the powerful drive of sex is one of the reasons why we cling to our partner and contributes to the strong desire we have that binds man and women together, in Heaven that purpose is no longer needed but there will be stimulation for sure lol.

Ok, this brings up another question. What happens for men and women who have been married multiple times. They have "become one flesh" with multiple persons. Do they play mix and match?!

Mix and match to do what? I just said the need for reproduction (sex) is not needed, you won't have those desires for the other person, the physical passes away only the spirit remains and in the Spirit of God there is no jealousy, anger, lust or any feelings that would cause animosity or confusion, you can spend time with whom ever you wish. Me and my wife love each other so we will probably want to hang together lol.
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11/10/2014 4:58:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/9/2014 7:37:21 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 11/9/2014 6:47:24 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:36:56 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

You think they will have sex, and if so, will it be limited to the missionary position? :-)

I think there is no need for reproduction, our time on Earth was for that purpose, also the powerful drive of sex is one of the reasons why we cling to our partner and contributes to the strong desire we have that binds man and women together, in Heaven that purpose is no longer needed but there will be stimulation for sure lol.

Yay! Where do I sign up for heaven? =D

You don't have to go anywhere, it's within :) What do you think of this passage?

John 3
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
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11/10/2014 5:33:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/10/2014 4:47:40 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/9/2014 7:51:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/9/2014 6:47:24 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:36:56 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

You think they will have sex, and if so, will it be limited to the missionary position? :-)

I think there is no need for reproduction, our time on Earth was for that purpose, also the powerful drive of sex is one of the reasons why we cling to our partner and contributes to the strong desire we have that binds man and women together, in Heaven that purpose is no longer needed but there will be stimulation for sure lol.

Ok, this brings up another question. What happens for men and women who have been married multiple times. They have "become one flesh" with multiple persons. Do they play mix and match?!

Mix and match to do what? I just said the need for reproduction (sex) is not needed, you won't have those desires for the other person, the physical passes away only the spirit remains and in the Spirit of God there is no jealousy, anger, lust or any feelings that would cause animosity or confusion, you can spend time with whom ever you wish. Me and my wife love each other so we will probably want to hang together lol.

Well, you said there would be eating, swimming, and flying which are reliant on a physical body, and I see no reason why sex is eliminated because reproduction is not needed. Humans have sex for reasons other than baby making!

Your view is consistent with my belief that Christianity encourages individuals to be self conscious about their own sexuality, and is one of the reasons homosexuality is such a controversial subject. Assuming god exists, do you think he is uncomfortable by your nakedness or what you do with another naked person? I would think he is intimately familiar with how the parts fit together, and is not going to be shocked that humans are too.
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11/11/2014 9:52:42 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/10/2014 5:33:53 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/10/2014 4:47:40 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/9/2014 7:51:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/9/2014 6:47:24 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:36:56 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

You think they will have sex, and if so, will it be limited to the missionary position? :-)

I think there is no need for reproduction, our time on Earth was for that purpose, also the powerful drive of sex is one of the reasons why we cling to our partner and contributes to the strong desire we have that binds man and women together, in Heaven that purpose is no longer needed but there will be stimulation for sure lol.

Ok, this brings up another question. What happens for men and women who have been married multiple times. They have "become one flesh" with multiple persons. Do they play mix and match?!

Mix and match to do what? I just said the need for reproduction (sex) is not needed, you won't have those desires for the other person, the physical passes away only the spirit remains and in the Spirit of God there is no jealousy, anger, lust or any feelings that would cause animosity or confusion, you can spend time with whom ever you wish. Me and my wife love each other so we will probably want to hang together lol.

Well, you said there would be eating, swimming, and flying which are reliant on a physical body, and I see no reason why sex is eliminated because reproduction is not needed. Humans have sex for reasons other than baby making!

Lol why must you be so materialistic? I'm puzzled why Atheists have such a hard time with understanding how anything or any activity can exist without it being physical. Your spirit body is a body, it's a spiritual body shaped like the one you see in the mirror but it's not subject to death and decay like the physical and is not bound to physical laws nevertheless the spirit world is a world and many of the things we see here simply reflect the heavens.
Yes sex feels great because it serves a purpose, that function is what drives two people together, that purpose is not needed in Heaven and our desire will be different, we are not going to desire to screw everything lol.

Your view is consistent with my belief that Christianity encourages individuals to be self conscious about their own sexuality, and is one of the reasons homosexuality is such a controversial subject. Assuming god exists, do you think he is uncomfortable by your nakedness or what you do with another naked person? I would think he is intimately familiar with how the parts fit together, and is not going to be shocked that humans are too.

Why would God be uncomfortable with your nakedness? But surely it would matter to God what you did with another naked person because there is a purpose and design for sex and what it produces. Sexuality is important to God because it is spiritual and it effects both parties and God sees at a higher level than we do and knows and declares what is harmful morally, spiritually and physically.
God views our body as temples and our temple gets furnished by what we bring in to it and God desires that He occupies that space.
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11/11/2014 10:58:32 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/9/2014 4:10:28 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 11/9/2014 6:54:04 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:39:53 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

Do they have toilets in heaven? If you eat you must excrete. What happens to the waste?

Not if the food is not physical :) we have no idea what is possible.

It's food Captain, but not as we know it! It has smell and taste and texture and nutrition but it is not physical. Beam me up, please!

Everything single thing you see that is material and physical is made up of elements which are unseen with the Human eye. Science knows that what you look at is almost entirely made up of empty space isn't that amazing?
Now imagine the same scenario with an object only eliminate the physical matter..... you have an object that can be observed but that is made up of things that are "invisible" almost as if it were an illusion, however an illusion can still be experienced. I would only call it an illusion as compared to what we experience, everything we experience in our natural world is meant to function independently from God, they need to be able to maintain order on it's own which requires a physical building. The dimensions of space are significantly different in eternity than that of the physical world we experience, for example in the spirit you could open a door in an area and step into another area yet each area are as real as the other.


So, here we have no idea what is possible.

What you describe sounds very much like life on Earth. What a coincidence!

Yes like I explained.... our world reflects the spiritual, it has many similarities of course the spirit is different in that it doesn't decay, has no death or time and there are limits in the natural that are not in spirit, you would see many of the same things but the spirit has greater dimension and the beauty in Heaven is beyond mere description. How is that "coincidence"? The same God in Heaven is the same God that created....

Then here you proceed to tell us details about heaven. Which you know, how exactly?

Don't you theists get tired of "making stuff up"?
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11/11/2014 12:03:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/11/2014 10:58:32 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/9/2014 4:10:28 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 11/9/2014 6:54:04 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:39:53 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

Do they have toilets in heaven? If you eat you must excrete. What happens to the waste?

Not if the food is not physical :) we have no idea what is possible.

It's food Captain, but not as we know it! It has smell and taste and texture and nutrition but it is not physical. Beam me up, please!

Everything single thing you see that is material and physical is made up of elements which are unseen with the Human eye. Science knows that what you look at is almost entirely made up of empty space isn't that amazing?
Now imagine the same scenario with an object only eliminate the physical matter..... you have an object that can be observed but that is made up of things that are "invisible" almost as if it were an illusion, however an illusion can still be experienced. I would only call it an illusion as compared to what we experience, everything we experience in our natural world is meant to function independently from God, they need to be able to maintain order on it's own which requires a physical building. The dimensions of space are significantly different in eternity than that of the physical world we experience, for example in the spirit you could open a door in an area and step into another area yet each area are as real as the other.

Excuse me, you "could open a "suspended" door in an area", meaning you could step out of one "world" into another, lol spiritual things are strange but they are real.



So, here we have no idea what is possible.

What you describe sounds very much like life on Earth. What a coincidence!

Yes like I explained.... our world reflects the spiritual, it has many similarities of course the spirit is different in that it doesn't decay, has no death or time and there are limits in the natural that are not in spirit, you would see many of the same things but the spirit has greater dimension and the beauty in Heaven is beyond mere description. How is that "coincidence"? The same God in Heaven is the same God that created....

Then here you proceed to tell us details about heaven. Which you know, how exactly?

Don't you theists get tired of "making stuff up"?
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11/11/2014 12:07:06 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/11/2014 9:52:42 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/10/2014 5:33:53 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/10/2014 4:47:40 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/9/2014 7:51:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/9/2014 6:47:24 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:36:56 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

You think they will have sex, and if so, will it be limited to the missionary position? :-)

I think there is no need for reproduction, our time on Earth was for that purpose, also the powerful drive of sex is one of the reasons why we cling to our partner and contributes to the strong desire we have that binds man and women together, in Heaven that purpose is no longer needed but there will be stimulation for sure lol.

Ok, this brings up another question. What happens for men and women who have been married multiple times. They have "become one flesh" with multiple persons. Do they play mix and match?!

Mix and match to do what? I just said the need for reproduction (sex) is not needed, you won't have those desires for the other person, the physical passes away only the spirit remains and in the Spirit of God there is no jealousy, anger, lust or any feelings that would cause animosity or confusion, you can spend time with whom ever you wish. Me and my wife love each other so we will probably want to hang together lol.

Well, you said there would be eating, swimming, and flying which are reliant on a physical body, and I see no reason why sex is eliminated because reproduction is not needed. Humans have sex for reasons other than baby making!

Lol why must you be so materialistic? I'm puzzled why Atheists have such a hard time with understanding how anything or any activity can exist without it being physical.

Um, that would be the only existence you, I, or anyone has ever known. Why would we assume there is anything beyond nature?

Your spirit body is a body, it's a spiritual body shaped like the one you see in the mirror but it's not subject to death and decay like the physical and is not bound to physical laws nevertheless the spirit world is a world and many of the things we see here simply reflect the heavens.

That is unsupported speculation, and does not deserve a response.

Yes sex feels great because it serves a purpose, that function is what drives two people together, that purpose is not needed in Heaven and our desire will be different, we are not going to desire to screw everything lol.

Your view is consistent with my belief that Christianity encourages individuals to be self conscious about their own sexuality, and is one of the reasons homosexuality is such a controversial subject. Assuming god exists, do you think he is uncomfortable by your nakedness or what you do with another naked person? I would think he is intimately familiar with how the parts fit together, and is not going to be shocked that humans are too.

Why would God be uncomfortable with your nakedness? But surely it would matter to God what you did with another naked person because there is a purpose and design for sex and what it produces.

First off, where does it say in the Bible,"sex is only for baby making". Secondly, I believe you are being hypocritical (I can't say for sure), but are you telling me in your entire life you have only utilized sex for the exclusive purpose off producing offspring? It seems highly unlikely, but I'll rely on you to be honest. Finally, if baby making is "the purpose" for sex, then why should any pleasure be derived from it? Humans would necessarily copulate to replenish the population since they are observant ("we don't have any one to watch the herd!") and capable of reasoning how to solve this problem ("it is time for me to know you, Baby" wink wink nudge nudge). Are you trying to borrow from evolutionary theory?

Sexuality is important to God because it is spiritual and it effects both parties and God sees at a higher level than we do and knows and declares what is harmful morally, spiritually and physically.

And for some reason you think chowing down on the chicken fried manna is fine, but when it comes to sex, there can be no buttering of the heavenly biscuits. If you can have "eating", which is not necessary for a non material being, then you can have sex also. You are simply eliminating it in your fictional world because you think there is something dirty about it. Is god embarrassed by sex, or is it just you?

God views our body as temples and our temple gets furnished by what we bring in to it and God desires that He occupies that space.

... But not the spiritual stomach, eh? Ad hoc.
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11/11/2014 4:30:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/11/2014 12:07:06 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/11/2014 9:52:42 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/10/2014 5:33:53 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/10/2014 4:47:40 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/9/2014 7:51:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/9/2014 6:47:24 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:36:56 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/7/2014 4:24:19 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
Heaven is NOT boring lol, maybe church to you is boring, maybe a sermon, maybe reading scripture, maybe praying, maybe fasting or maybe religion to you is just boring.....Heaven is not boring...

In Heaven you continue living, living consists of more than just the above, it also includes things you love like learning, eating, creating, exploring, having fun, teaching, inventing, swimming, animals, music, building, flying, science, enjoying the presence of God, entertaining ect ect. in Heaven you continue what you love, God is not ignorant of your passions, He is in touch with them.

James 1
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


The physical reflects the spiritual, what we see here we will encounter after. Everything that is in the material world began in spirit, all good all evil, all ideas are birthed from spirit whether of God or the enemy.
Things that won't be permitted in Heaven are things that cause harm or reflect evil, everything else is good.

You think they will have sex, and if so, will it be limited to the missionary position? :-)

I think there is no need for reproduction, our time on Earth was for that purpose, also the powerful drive of sex is one of the reasons why we cling to our partner and contributes to the strong desire we have that binds man and women together, in Heaven that purpose is no longer needed but there will be stimulation for sure lol.

Ok, this brings up another question. What happens for men and women who have been married multiple times. They have "become one flesh" with multiple persons. Do they play mix and match?!

Mix and match to do what? I just said the need for reproduction (sex) is not needed, you won't have those desires for the other person, the physical passes away only the spirit remains and in the Spirit of God there is no jealousy, anger, lust or any feelings that would cause animosity or confusion, you can spend time with whom ever you wish. Me and my wife love each other so we will probably want to hang together lol.

Well, you said there would be eating, swimming, and flying which are reliant on a physical body, and I see no reason why sex is eliminated because reproduction is not needed. Humans have sex for reasons other than baby making!

Lol why must you be so materialistic? I'm puzzled why Atheists have such a hard time with understanding how anything or any activity can exist without it being physical.

Um, that would be the only existence you, I, or anyone has ever known. Why would we assume there is anything beyond nature?

Your spirit body is a body, it's a spiritual body shaped like the one you see in the mirror but it's not subject to death and decay like the physical and is not bound to physical laws nevertheless the spirit world is a world and many of the things we see here simply reflect the heavens.

That is unsupported speculation, and does not deserve a response.

Yes sex feels great because it serves a purpose, that function is what drives two people together, that purpose is not needed in Heaven and our desire will be different, we are not going to desire to screw everything lol.

Your view is consistent with my belief that Christianity encourages individuals to be self conscious about their own sexuality, and is one of the reasons homosexuality is such a controversial subject. Assuming god exists, do you think he is uncomfortable by your nakedness or what you do with another naked person? I would think he is intimately familiar with how the parts fit together, and is not going to be shocked that humans are too.

Why would God be uncomfortable with your nakedness? But surely it would matter to God what you did with another naked person because there is a purpose and design for sex and what it produces.

First off, where does it say in the Bible,"sex is only for baby making". Secondly, I believe you are being hypocritical (I can't say for sure), but are you telling me in your entire life you have only utilized sex for the exclusive purpose off producing offspring? It seems highly unlikely, but I'll rely on you to be honest. Finally, if baby making is "the purpose" for sex, then why should any pleasure be derived from it? Humans would necessarily copulate to replenish the population since they are observant ("we don't have any one to watch the herd!") and capable of reasoning how to solve this problem ("it is time for me to know you, Baby" wink wink nudge nudge). Are you trying to borrow from evolutionary theory?

Sexuality is important to God because it is spiritual and it effects both parties and God sees at a higher level than we do and knows and declares what is harmful morally, spiritually and physically.

And for some reason you think chowing down on the chicken fried manna is fine, but when it comes to sex, there can be no buttering of the heavenly biscuits. If you can have "eating", which is not necessary for a non material being, then you can have sex also. You are simply eliminating it in your fictional world because you think there is something dirty about it. Is god embarrassed by sex, or is it just you?

God views our body as temples and our temple gets furnished by what we bring in to it and God desires that He occupies that space.

... But not the spiritual stomach, eh? Ad hoc.

Wow, just wow... we couldn't be further from the same page and I'm not even sure you want to be so I'll tell you what, give me a reason to continue the discussion.