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11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.
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11/13/2014 6:30:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

Actually, rain and snow (when it melts) either get absorbed into the ground or run into a stream or river leading to the ocean. From there, water evaporates into the sky as it gets heated by the sun. That water then condenses when it hits cold air currents forming clouds.

So the Bible is wrong on that point, water does return to the sky.
"What do we say to the Grim Reaper?" "Not Today!"
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11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.
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11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.

Excuse me, but how do you know Jesus was divine or the son of God and more importantly - a real person?
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11/14/2014 8:41:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.

Excuse me, but how do you know Jesus was divine or the son of God and more importantly - a real person?

There wasn't any saints named Jesus, Timothy, Paul, or James. These are English names that were added to the new testament saints who actually spoke in a different language than English. Their names aren't important at all. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God ( messiah ) that's important. Some of the writings in the new testament weren't changed by antichrists who produced the Bible. The writings that are still intact lets me know that there were true saints 2,000 years ago who were taught the same knowledge of God that I was taught this past six years by our invisible Creator.
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11/14/2014 8:45:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 8:41:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.

Excuse me, but how do you know Jesus was divine or the son of God and more importantly - a real person?

There wasn't any saints named Jesus, Timothy, Paul, or James. These are English names that were added to the new testament saints who actually spoke in a different language than English. Their names aren't important at all. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God ( messiah ) that's important. Some of the writings in the new testament weren't changed by antichrists who produced the Bible. The writings that are still intact lets me know that there were true saints 2,000 years ago who were taught the same knowledge of God that I was taught this past six years by our invisible Creator.

You did not respond to my question so I will repeat if for you - how do you know Jesus was real or divine?
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11/14/2014 8:47:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 8:45:30 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:41:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.

Excuse me, but how do you know Jesus was divine or the son of God and more importantly - a real person?

There wasn't any saints named Jesus, Timothy, Paul, or James. These are English names that were added to the new testament saints who actually spoke in a different language than English. Their names aren't important at all. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God ( messiah ) that's important. Some of the writings in the new testament weren't changed by antichrists who produced the Bible. The writings that are still intact lets me know that there were true saints 2,000 years ago who were taught the same knowledge of God that I was taught this past six years by our invisible Creator.

You did not respond to my question so I will repeat if for you - how do you know Jesus was real or divine?

Reread my post a few times to get your answer. Somehow, you totally missed it.
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11/14/2014 8:53:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 8:47:45 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:45:30 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:41:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.

Excuse me, but how do you know Jesus was divine or the son of God and more importantly - a real person?

There wasn't any saints named Jesus, Timothy, Paul, or James. These are English names that were added to the new testament saints who actually spoke in a different language than English. Their names aren't important at all. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God ( messiah ) that's important. Some of the writings in the new testament weren't changed by antichrists who produced the Bible. The writings that are still intact lets me know that there were true saints 2,000 years ago who were taught the same knowledge of God that I was taught this past six years by our invisible Creator.

You did not respond to my question so I will repeat if for you - how do you know Jesus was real or divine?

Reread my post a few times to get your answer. Somehow, you totally missed it.

No, I did not miss anything. Just answer the question.
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11/14/2014 9:08:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 8:53:02 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:47:45 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:45:30 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:41:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.

Excuse me, but how do you know Jesus was divine or the son of God and more importantly - a real person?

There wasn't any saints named Jesus, Timothy, Paul, or James. These are English names that were added to the new testament saints who actually spoke in a different language than English. Their names aren't important at all. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God ( messiah ) that's important. Some of the writings in the new testament weren't changed by antichrists who produced the Bible. The writings that are still intact lets me know that there were true saints 2,000 years ago who were taught the same knowledge of God that I was taught this past six years by our invisible Creator.

You did not respond to my question so I will repeat if for you - how do you know Jesus was real or divine?

Reread my post a few times to get your answer. Somehow, you totally missed it.

No, I did not miss anything. Just answer the question.

You missed the answer again. Reread it again and again until the answer pops out at you. There were no saints named Jesus. However, the saints were used to testify to the Word of God, which is the important part. The names of the saints are NOT IMPORTANT. It's the message we speak that is important.
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11/14/2014 9:11:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 9:08:55 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:53:02 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:47:45 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:45:30 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:41:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.

Excuse me, but how do you know Jesus was divine or the son of God and more importantly - a real person?

There wasn't any saints named Jesus, Timothy, Paul, or James. These are English names that were added to the new testament saints who actually spoke in a different language than English. Their names aren't important at all. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God ( messiah ) that's important. Some of the writings in the new testament weren't changed by antichrists who produced the Bible. The writings that are still intact lets me know that there were true saints 2,000 years ago who were taught the same knowledge of God that I was taught this past six years by our invisible Creator.

You did not respond to my question so I will repeat if for you - how do you know Jesus was real or divine?

Reread my post a few times to get your answer. Somehow, you totally missed it.

No, I did not miss anything. Just answer the question.

You missed the answer again. Reread it again and again until the answer pops out at you. There were no saints named Jesus. However, the saints were used to testify to the Word of God, which is the important part. The names of the saints are NOT IMPORTANT. It's the message we speak that is important.

Okay, sorry. So are you saying Jesus was not a saint or did not exist or both?
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11/14/2014 9:20:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 9:11:17 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:08:55 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:53:02 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:47:45 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:45:30 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:41:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.

Excuse me, but how do you know Jesus was divine or the son of God and more importantly - a real person?

There wasn't any saints named Jesus, Timothy, Paul, or James. These are English names that were added to the new testament saints who actually spoke in a different language than English. Their names aren't important at all. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God ( messiah ) that's important. Some of the writings in the new testament weren't changed by antichrists who produced the Bible. The writings that are still intact lets me know that there were true saints 2,000 years ago who were taught the same knowledge of God that I was taught this past six years by our invisible Creator.

You did not respond to my question so I will repeat if for you - how do you know Jesus was real or divine?

Reread my post a few times to get your answer. Somehow, you totally missed it.

No, I did not miss anything. Just answer the question.

You missed the answer again. Reread it again and again until the answer pops out at you. There were no saints named Jesus. However, the saints were used to testify to the Word of God, which is the important part. The names of the saints are NOT IMPORTANT. It's the message we speak that is important.

Okay, sorry. So are you saying Jesus was not a saint or did not exist or both?
There was no man named Jesus 2,000 years ago. They didn't speak English back then. No man today knows the proper first names of the first saints who wrote and spoke ( testified ) for our Creator. I'm God's last saint who speaks English for Him. If I spoke in the native tongue of the first saints, no one on this planet would understand the voice of the Lord.

English is the most common language on earth today, spoken in almost every country, at least by the affluent. This is why He chose me, an English speaking servant, to use to testify to His invisible Word, which has many different symbolic names for it in the Bible such as Christ, the voice of the Lord, the word of the Lord, Breath of Life, Holy Spirit, Spirit of God, Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven, Kingdom of Jesus Christ, Zion, Jacob, Tree of Life, Light of Men, Eternal Life, etc.
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11/14/2014 9:52:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 9:20:59 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:11:17 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:08:55 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:53:02 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:47:45 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:45:30 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:41:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.

Excuse me, but how do you know Jesus was divine or the son of God and more importantly - a real person?

There wasn't any saints named Jesus, Timothy, Paul, or James. These are English names that were added to the new testament saints who actually spoke in a different language than English. Their names aren't important at all. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God ( messiah ) that's important. Some of the writings in the new testament weren't changed by antichrists who produced the Bible. The writings that are still intact lets me know that there were true saints 2,000 years ago who were taught the same knowledge of God that I was taught this past six years by our invisible Creator.

You did not respond to my question so I will repeat if for you - how do you know Jesus was real or divine?

Reread my post a few times to get your answer. Somehow, you totally missed it.

No, I did not miss anything. Just answer the question.

You missed the answer again. Reread it again and again until the answer pops out at you. There were no saints named Jesus. However, the saints were used to testify to the Word of God, which is the important part. The names of the saints are NOT IMPORTANT. It's the message we speak that is important.

Okay, sorry. So are you saying Jesus was not a saint or did not exist or both?
There was no man named Jesus 2,000 years ago. They didn't speak English back then. No man today knows the proper first names of the first saints who wrote and spoke ( testified ) for our Creator. I'm God's last saint who speaks English for Him. If I spoke in the native tongue of the first saints, no one on this planet would understand the voice of the Lord.

English is the most common language on earth today, spoken in almost every country, at least by the affluent. This is why He chose me, an English speaking servant, to use to testify to His invisible Word, which has many different symbolic names for it in the Bible such as Christ, the voice of the Lord, the word of the Lord, Breath of Life, Holy Spirit, Spirit of God, Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven, Kingdom of Jesus Christ, Zion, Jacob, Tree of Life, Light of Men, Eternal Life, etc.

I am afraid you are incorrect - surprise. Mandarin is the most spoken language in the world today. So it appears your creator has mislead you. Perhaps you should have a word with him about this error. Perhaps the two of you need counseling to better communicate with one another more efficiently?
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11/14/2014 10:13:19 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 9:52:04 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:20:59 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:11:17 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:08:55 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:53:02 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:47:45 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:45:30 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:41:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.

Excuse me, but how do you know Jesus was divine or the son of God and more importantly - a real person?

There wasn't any saints named Jesus, Timothy, Paul, or James. These are English names that were added to the new testament saints who actually spoke in a different language than English. Their names aren't important at all. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God ( messiah ) that's important. Some of the writings in the new testament weren't changed by antichrists who produced the Bible. The writings that are still intact lets me know that there were true saints 2,000 years ago who were taught the same knowledge of God that I was taught this past six years by our invisible Creator.

You did not respond to my question so I will repeat if for you - how do you know Jesus was real or divine?

Reread my post a few times to get your answer. Somehow, you totally missed it.

No, I did not miss anything. Just answer the question.

You missed the answer again. Reread it again and again until the answer pops out at you. There were no saints named Jesus. However, the saints were used to testify to the Word of God, which is the important part. The names of the saints are NOT IMPORTANT. It's the message we speak that is important.

Okay, sorry. So are you saying Jesus was not a saint or did not exist or both?
There was no man named Jesus 2,000 years ago. They didn't speak English back then. No man today knows the proper first names of the first saints who wrote and spoke ( testified ) for our Creator. I'm God's last saint who speaks English for Him. If I spoke in the native tongue of the first saints, no one on this planet would understand the voice of the Lord.

English is the most common language on earth today, spoken in almost every country, at least by the affluent. This is why He chose me, an English speaking servant, to use to testify to His invisible Word, which has many different symbolic names for it in the Bible such as Christ, the voice of the Lord, the word of the Lord, Breath of Life, Holy Spirit, Spirit of God, Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven, Kingdom of Jesus Christ, Zion, Jacob, Tree of Life, Light of Men, Eternal Life, etc.

I am afraid you are incorrect - surprise. Mandarin is the most spoken language in the world today. So it appears your creator has mislead you. Perhaps you should have a word with him about this error. Perhaps the two of you need counseling to better communicate with one another more efficiently?

English is the most widely used language amongst the AFFLUENT I said. That means that scientists, doctors, lawyers, teachers, business people, etc. are most likely to speak English in this world.

Those who argue with me are looking for ways to avoid the Truth that I speak.
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11/14/2014 10:29:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:13:19 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:52:04 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:20:59 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:11:17 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:08:55 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:53:02 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:47:45 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:45:30 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:41:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.

Excuse me, but how do you know Jesus was divine or the son of God and more importantly - a real person?

There wasn't any saints named Jesus, Timothy, Paul, or James. These are English names that were added to the new testament saints who actually spoke in a different language than English. Their names aren't important at all. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God ( messiah ) that's important. Some of the writings in the new testament weren't changed by antichrists who produced the Bible. The writings that are still intact lets me know that there were true saints 2,000 years ago who were taught the same knowledge of God that I was taught this past six years by our invisible Creator.

You did not respond to my question so I will repeat if for you - how do you know Jesus was real or divine?

Reread my post a few times to get your answer. Somehow, you totally missed it.

No, I did not miss anything. Just answer the question.

You missed the answer again. Reread it again and again until the answer pops out at you. There were no saints named Jesus. However, the saints were used to testify to the Word of God, which is the important part. The names of the saints are NOT IMPORTANT. It's the message we speak that is important.

Okay, sorry. So are you saying Jesus was not a saint or did not exist or both?
There was no man named Jesus 2,000 years ago. They didn't speak English back then. No man today knows the proper first names of the first saints who wrote and spoke ( testified ) for our Creator. I'm God's last saint who speaks English for Him. If I spoke in the native tongue of the first saints, no one on this planet would understand the voice of the Lord.

English is the most common language on earth today, spoken in almost every country, at least by the affluent. This is why He chose me, an English speaking servant, to use to testify to His invisible Word, which has many different symbolic names for it in the Bible such as Christ, the voice of the Lord, the word of the Lord, Breath of Life, Holy Spirit, Spirit of God, Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven, Kingdom of Jesus Christ, Zion, Jacob, Tree of Life, Light of Men, Eternal Life, etc.

I am afraid you are incorrect - surprise. Mandarin is the most spoken language in the world today. So it appears your creator has mislead you. Perhaps you should have a word with him about this error. Perhaps the two of you need counseling to better communicate with one another more efficiently?

English is the most widely used language amongst the AFFLUENT I said. That means that scientists, doctors, lawyers, teachers, business people, etc. are most likely to speak English in this world.

Those who argue with me are looking for ways to avoid the Truth that I speak.

Look, I am just quoting what you stated. Regardless, are you then stating that Mandarin speaking people are not Affluent as scientists, doctors, lawyers, etc.?
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11/14/2014 10:46:52 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:29:33 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:13:19 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:52:04 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:20:59 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:11:17 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:08:55 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:53:02 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:47:45 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:45:30 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:41:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.

Excuse me, but how do you know Jesus was divine or the son of God and more importantly - a real person?

There wasn't any saints named Jesus, Timothy, Paul, or James. These are English names that were added to the new testament saints who actually spoke in a different language than English. Their names aren't important at all. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God ( messiah ) that's important. Some of the writings in the new testament weren't changed by antichrists who produced the Bible. The writings that are still intact lets me know that there were true saints 2,000 years ago who were taught the same knowledge of God that I was taught this past six years by our invisible Creator.

You did not respond to my question so I will repeat if for you - how do you know Jesus was real or divine?

Reread my post a few times to get your answer. Somehow, you totally missed it.

No, I did not miss anything. Just answer the question.

You missed the answer again. Reread it again and again until the answer pops out at you. There were no saints named Jesus. However, the saints were used to testify to the Word of God, which is the important part. The names of the saints are NOT IMPORTANT. It's the message we speak that is important.

Okay, sorry. So are you saying Jesus was not a saint or did not exist or both?
There was no man named Jesus 2,000 years ago. They didn't speak English back then. No man today knows the proper first names of the first saints who wrote and spoke ( testified ) for our Creator. I'm God's last saint who speaks English for Him. If I spoke in the native tongue of the first saints, no one on this planet would understand the voice of the Lord.

English is the most common language on earth today, spoken in almost every country, at least by the affluent. This is why He chose me, an English speaking servant, to use to testify to His invisible Word, which has many different symbolic names for it in the Bible such as Christ, the voice of the Lord, the word of the Lord, Breath of Life, Holy Spirit, Spirit of God, Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven, Kingdom of Jesus Christ, Zion, Jacob, Tree of Life, Light of Men, Eternal Life, etc.

I am afraid you are incorrect - surprise. Mandarin is the most spoken language in the world today. So it appears your creator has mislead you. Perhaps you should have a word with him about this error. Perhaps the two of you need counseling to better communicate with one another more efficiently?

English is the most widely used language amongst the AFFLUENT I said. That means that scientists, doctors, lawyers, teachers, business people, etc. are most likely to speak English in this world.

Those who argue with me are looking for ways to avoid the Truth that I speak.

Look, I am just quoting what you stated. Regardless, are you then stating that Mandarin speaking people are not Affluent as scientists, doctors, lawyers, etc.?

You can argue all you want but go argue with someone who loves to argue like you do. I'm too busy to spend time with fools like you.
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11/14/2014 10:52:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:46:52 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:29:33 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:13:19 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:52:04 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:20:59 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:11:17 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:08:55 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:53:02 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:47:45 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:45:30 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:41:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.

Excuse me, but how do you know Jesus was divine or the son of God and more importantly - a real person?

There wasn't any saints named Jesus, Timothy, Paul, or James. These are English names that were added to the new testament saints who actually spoke in a different language than English. Their names aren't important at all. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God ( messiah ) that's important. Some of the writings in the new testament weren't changed by antichrists who produced the Bible. The writings that are still intact lets me know that there were true saints 2,000 years ago who were taught the same knowledge of God that I was taught this past six years by our invisible Creator.

You did not respond to my question so I will repeat if for you - how do you know Jesus was real or divine?

Reread my post a few times to get your answer. Somehow, you totally missed it.

No, I did not miss anything. Just answer the question.

You missed the answer again. Reread it again and again until the answer pops out at you. There were no saints named Jesus. However, the saints were used to testify to the Word of God, which is the important part. The names of the saints are NOT IMPORTANT. It's the message we speak that is important.

Okay, sorry. So are you saying Jesus was not a saint or did not exist or both?
There was no man named Jesus 2,000 years ago. They didn't speak English back then. No man today knows the proper first names of the first saints who wrote and spoke ( testified ) for our Creator. I'm God's last saint who speaks English for Him. If I spoke in the native tongue of the first saints, no one on this planet would understand the voice of the Lord.

English is the most common language on earth today, spoken in almost every country, at least by the affluent. This is why He chose me, an English speaking servant, to use to testify to His invisible Word, which has many different symbolic names for it in the Bible such as Christ, the voice of the Lord, the word of the Lord, Breath of Life, Holy Spirit, Spirit of God, Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven, Kingdom of Jesus Christ, Zion, Jacob, Tree of Life, Light of Men, Eternal Life, etc.

I am afraid you are incorrect - surprise. Mandarin is the most spoken language in the world today. So it appears your creator has mislead you. Perhaps you should have a word with him about this error. Perhaps the two of you need counseling to better communicate with one another more efficiently?

English is the most widely used language amongst the AFFLUENT I said. That means that scientists, doctors, lawyers, teachers, business people, etc. are most likely to speak English in this world.

Those who argue with me are looking for ways to avoid the Truth that I speak.

Look, I am just quoting what you stated. Regardless, are you then stating that Mandarin speaking people are not Affluent as scientists, doctors, lawyers, etc.?

You can argue all you want but go argue with someone who loves to argue like you do. I'm too busy to spend time with fools like you.

Ahhh. Either answer my question or avoid it - that is entirely up to you. I am just restating what you said and addressing the point. If you have no answer or do not wish to answer - just admit this and accept you are wrong rather than make ad hominem fallacies. I do have to ask; however, with what are you to busy?
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11/14/2014 10:59:20 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:52:59 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:46:52 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:29:33 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:13:19 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:52:04 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:20:59 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:11:17 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:08:55 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:53:02 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:47:45 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:45:30 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:41:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.

Excuse me, but how do you know Jesus was divine or the son of God and more importantly - a real person?

There wasn't any saints named Jesus, Timothy, Paul, or James. These are English names that were added to the new testament saints who actually spoke in a different language than English. Their names aren't important at all. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God ( messiah ) that's important. Some of the writings in the new testament weren't changed by antichrists who produced the Bible. The writings that are still intact lets me know that there were true saints 2,000 years ago who were taught the same knowledge of God that I was taught this past six years by our invisible Creator.

You did not respond to my question so I will repeat if for you - how do you know Jesus was real or divine?

Reread my post a few times to get your answer. Somehow, you totally missed it.

No, I did not miss anything. Just answer the question.

You missed the answer again. Reread it again and again until the answer pops out at you. There were no saints named Jesus. However, the saints were used to testify to the Word of God, which is the important part. The names of the saints are NOT IMPORTANT. It's the message we speak that is important.

Okay, sorry. So are you saying Jesus was not a saint or did not exist or both?
There was no man named Jesus 2,000 years ago. They didn't speak English back then. No man today knows the proper first names of the first saints who wrote and spoke ( testified ) for our Creator. I'm God's last saint who speaks English for Him. If I spoke in the native tongue of the first saints, no one on this planet would understand the voice of the Lord.

English is the most common language on earth today, spoken in almost every country, at least by the affluent. This is why He chose me, an English speaking servant, to use to testify to His invisible Word, which has many different symbolic names for it in the Bible such as Christ, the voice of the Lord, the word of the Lord, Breath of Life, Holy Spirit, Spirit of God, Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven, Kingdom of Jesus Christ, Zion, Jacob, Tree of Life, Light of Men, Eternal Life, etc.

I am afraid you are incorrect - surprise. Mandarin is the most spoken language in the world today. So it appears your creator has mislead you. Perhaps you should have a word with him about this error. Perhaps the two of you need counseling to better communicate with one another more efficiently?

English is the most widely used language amongst the AFFLUENT I said. That means that scientists, doctors, lawyers, teachers, business people, etc. are most likely to speak English in this world.

Those who argue with me are looking for ways to avoid the Truth that I speak.

Look, I am just quoting what you stated. Regardless, are you then stating that Mandarin speaking people are not Affluent as scientists, doctors, lawyers, etc.?

You can argue all you want but go argue with someone who loves to argue like you do. I'm too busy to spend time with fools like you.

Ahhh. Either answer my question or avoid it - that is entirely up to you. I am just restating what you said and addressing the point. If you have no answer or do not wish to answer - just admit this and accept you are wrong rather than make ad hominem fallacies. I do have to ask; however, with what are you to busy?

Mandarin language is not considered as a common language amongst all the scientists of this world when they get together to talk about new ideas. They us the common language called English. You can argue all you want about this but go ask any foreign scientist if they understand English. Most of them do. Ask them if they know Mandarin. Most of them will tell you NO.
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11/15/2014 11:07:49 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:59:20 PM, bornofgod wrote:

Mandarin language is not considered as a common language amongst all the scientists of this world when they get together to talk about new ideas. They us the common language called English. You can argue all you want about this but go ask any foreign scientist if they understand English. Most of them do. Ask them if they know Mandarin. Most of them will tell you NO.

You stated, English is the most common language on earth today, spoken in almost every country, at least by the affluent.. I corrected you and told you Mandarin is the most spoken language in the world. Then you change your statement and say English is the most spoken language of all scientists. No doubt this is also a random, anecdotal view you have without empirical support but suppose this is true.
You are NOT a scientist - if fact every statement you make illustrates this. But if English is the language accepted as the most ubiquitous in the scientific world - why would god choose you (a non-scientist) to spread messages that clearly have very little to do with science?
You appear to have trapped yourself in your own language game - a common error from those who do not clearly understand about what they speaking.
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11/15/2014 11:38:17 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

What is nice about this scripture is it clears up arguments against just what the Lord came into the world for. Its not about the fulfillment of one"s own life in the flesh its about the Life that He restored unto us to be fulfilled, and bear it fruit. The thing is, many think that their god is to be as they see he ought to be, of which what you have posted would be impossible to be fulfilled. The ground (men) that is made of the ground and have the life of dust to dust, ashes to ashes must yield to the seed planted. It is the seed that has the instructions to the Life therein that it is from. And the seed doesn"t yield to the ground, the ground is dead without the seed it is the ground that needs to yield to the seed in order to experience the life that is in the seed.

Jn:5:24: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
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11/15/2014 11:55:45 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/15/2014 11:07:49 AM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:59:20 PM, bornofgod wrote:

Mandarin language is not considered as a common language amongst all the scientists of this world when they get together to talk about new ideas. They us the common language called English. You can argue all you want about this but go ask any foreign scientist if they understand English. Most of them do. Ask them if they know Mandarin. Most of them will tell you NO.

You stated, English is the most common language on earth today, spoken in almost every country, at least by the affluent.. I corrected you and told you Mandarin is the most spoken language in the world. Then you change your statement and say English is the most spoken language of all scientists. No doubt this is also a random, anecdotal view you have without empirical support but suppose this is true.
You are NOT a scientist - if fact every statement you make illustrates this. But if English is the language accepted as the most ubiquitous in the scientific world - why would god choose you (a non-scientist) to spread messages that clearly have very little to do with science?
You appear to have trapped yourself in your own language game - a common error from those who do not clearly understand about what they speaking.

I haven't trapped myself at all. It's you who needs to argue to avoid the Truth that I speak for our invisible Creator.
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11/15/2014 2:14:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/15/2014 11:55:45 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/15/2014 11:07:49 AM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:59:20 PM, bornofgod wrote:

Mandarin language is not considered as a common language amongst all the scientists of this world when they get together to talk about new ideas. They us the common language called English. You can argue all you want about this but go ask any foreign scientist if they understand English. Most of them do. Ask them if they know Mandarin. Most of them will tell you NO.

You stated, English is the most common language on earth today, spoken in almost every country, at least by the affluent.. I corrected you and told you Mandarin is the most spoken language in the world. Then you change your statement and say English is the most spoken language of all scientists. No doubt this is also a random, anecdotal view you have without empirical support but suppose this is true.
You are NOT a scientist - if fact every statement you make illustrates this. But if English is the language accepted as the most ubiquitous in the scientific world - why would god choose you (a non-scientist) to spread messages that clearly have very little to do with science?
You appear to have trapped yourself in your own language game - a common error from those who do not clearly understand about what they speaking.

I haven't trapped myself at all. It's you who needs to argue to avoid the Truth that I speak for our invisible Creator.

How do you know it is truth? If the creator is invisible - how do you know he is there?
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11/15/2014 8:51:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/15/2014 2:14:21 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/15/2014 11:55:45 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/15/2014 11:07:49 AM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:59:20 PM, bornofgod wrote:

Mandarin language is not considered as a common language amongst all the scientists of this world when they get together to talk about new ideas. They us the common language called English. You can argue all you want about this but go ask any foreign scientist if they understand English. Most of them do. Ask them if they know Mandarin. Most of them will tell you NO.

You stated, English is the most common language on earth today, spoken in almost every country, at least by the affluent.. I corrected you and told you Mandarin is the most spoken language in the world. Then you change your statement and say English is the most spoken language of all scientists. No doubt this is also a random, anecdotal view you have without empirical support but suppose this is true.
You are NOT a scientist - if fact every statement you make illustrates this. But if English is the language accepted as the most ubiquitous in the scientific world - why would god choose you (a non-scientist) to spread messages that clearly have very little to do with science?
You appear to have trapped yourself in your own language game - a common error from those who do not clearly understand about what they speaking.

I haven't trapped myself at all. It's you who needs to argue to avoid the Truth that I speak for our invisible Creator.

How do you know it is truth? If the creator is invisible - how do you know he is there?

Our invisible Creator comes into the minds of us prophets and saints in spoken words in the language that we learn from childhood. These spoken words are to inform us that God exists like what He spoke into my mind on December 7th, 1979. He got my attention by deceiving me with a false image in a mirror I was looking in and then put a thought into my mind that if that image is of Satan, then God must be real, too. At that moment, my body became energized with what appeared to be electricity or something. Then the words were spoken into my mind, "I AM YOUR CREATOR", which were undeniable and understood very well by me. I knew that He was the Creator with that command and the way my body reacted to Him.

From that time on, every time He came into my mind to speak a command or give me some kind of unusual desire or put my body on the ground for Him to work on, I knew it was my Creator. After 28 1/2 years of many experiences of Him giving me commands to obey, He finally had me start testifying to His knowledge on June 16th, 2008 in written form. I spent the next three years writing and speaking words that He put in my mind to teach me who I am in Him and what happened in the past, the present delusion we're living in today and the future destruction of this world and beyond into the next age. He also taught me exactly how He created us and how He formed illusions from our created existence as invisible vibrations.

All my experiences with God is the reason I know Him very well. There's absolutely no doubt that He's our Creator and that we came from His thoughts. Now I understand that we are living His dream and all the make-believe worlds He created for us are the visions and dreams that we thought was our reality all this time. The Truth is our Creator and His thoughts were we exist.
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11/15/2014 8:58:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 9:11:17 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 9:08:55 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:53:02 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:47:45 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:45:30 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:41:36 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/13/2014 8:42:21 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/13/2014 3:15:26 PM, Truth_seeker wrote:
Isaiah 55:10-11

10 "As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so My word that comes from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please and will prosper in what I send it to do."

Several times, Jesus said that he was sent by God and proceeds from him (John 17:3,18,20:21, etc.) to accomplish his will on the earth.

So were the saints named Peter, Timothy, Paul, James, Brad, and all the others who testified to the Word of God, our true created invisible existence in God.

Excuse me, but how do you know Jesus was divine or the son of God and more importantly - a real person?

There wasn't any saints named Jesus, Timothy, Paul, or James. These are English names that were added to the new testament saints who actually spoke in a different language than English. Their names aren't important at all. It's their testimonies of the invisible Word of God ( messiah ) that's important. Some of the writings in the new testament weren't changed by antichrists who produced the Bible. The writings that are still intact lets me know that there were true saints 2,000 years ago who were taught the same knowledge of God that I was taught this past six years by our invisible Creator.

You did not respond to my question so I will repeat if for you - how do you know Jesus was real or divine?

Reread my post a few times to get your answer. Somehow, you totally missed it.

No, I did not miss anything. Just answer the question.

You missed the answer again. Reread it again and again until the answer pops out at you. There were no saints named Jesus. However, the saints were used to testify to the Word of God, which is the important part. The names of the saints are NOT IMPORTANT. It's the message we speak that is important.

Okay, sorry. So are you saying Jesus was not a saint or did not exist or both?

You are missing the answer every single time. There was no person named Jesus 2,000 years ago because they did NOT have "Jesus" in any of the languages of that time. Whatever the first saint's names were in their languages doesn't matter to us who are living in this time. I could care less what they're names were because it's the message they spoke that's important. It's the same message that I speak in English today that comes directly from the mind of our Creator who has to convert His invisible language of vibrations into the English language that I testify to in writing and speaking. I don't understand the language of invisible vibrations and neither does any of God's people. His language has to be converted into our earthly languages to understand the past, present and future that He teaches us directly from His thoughts ( mind ).
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11/15/2014 11:16:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/15/2014 8:58:57 PM, bornofgod wrote:

You are missing the answer every single time. There was no person named Jesus 2,000 years ago because they did NOT have "Jesus" in any of the languages of that time. Whatever the first saint's names were in their languages doesn't matter to us who are living in this time. I could care less what they're names were because it's the message they spoke that's important. It's the same message that I speak in English today that comes directly from the mind of our Creator who has to convert His invisible language of vibrations into the English language that I testify to in writing and speaking. I don't understand the language of invisible vibrations and neither does any of God's people. His language has to be converted into our earthly languages to understand the past, present and future that He teaches us directly from His thoughts ( mind ).

Well, 10 years ago I was watching a movie with Angelina Jolie and felt a connection with her. After searching my soul, mind and heart, I believe she and I are destined to be together. Every time I see her I feel she is with me in spirit. I know she is already married but that isn't real because she and I are destined to be together. The love I feel for her is real and I feel her vibrations - she and I are are meant to be together and I will wait as long as it takes. We have a language that no one else can hear. I know like I know I'm alive that she will be with me......

Tell me, Bornofogod - how is my example above any different than your subjective ideas about a invisible creator? I have no proof for how Angelina and I are connected. You have no proof of an invisible creator giving you messages. Both are subjective and both are subject to intense scrutiny. I believe that if a friend of yours told you what I just illustrated above you would be inclined to try to help him through his delusion.

Cannot you observe that you are experiencing a similar subjective, wishful phenomenon??
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11/16/2014 9:24:33 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/15/2014 11:16:58 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/15/2014 8:58:57 PM, bornofgod wrote:

You are missing the answer every single time. There was no person named Jesus 2,000 years ago because they did NOT have "Jesus" in any of the languages of that time. Whatever the first saint's names were in their languages doesn't matter to us who are living in this time. I could care less what they're names were because it's the message they spoke that's important. It's the same message that I speak in English today that comes directly from the mind of our Creator who has to convert His invisible language of vibrations into the English language that I testify to in writing and speaking. I don't understand the language of invisible vibrations and neither does any of God's people. His language has to be converted into our earthly languages to understand the past, present and future that He teaches us directly from His thoughts ( mind ).

Well, 10 years ago I was watching a movie with Angelina Jolie and felt a connection with her. After searching my soul, mind and heart, I believe she and I are destined to be together. Every time I see her I feel she is with me in spirit. I know she is already married but that isn't real because she and I are destined to be together. The love I feel for her is real and I feel her vibrations - she and I are are meant to be together and I will wait as long as it takes. We have a language that no one else can hear. I know like I know I'm alive that she will be with me......

Tell me, Bornofogod - how is my example above any different than your subjective ideas about a invisible creator? I have no proof for how Angelina and I are connected. You have no proof of an invisible creator giving you messages. Both are subjective and both are subject to intense scrutiny. I believe that if a friend of yours told you what I just illustrated above you would be inclined to try to help him through his delusion.

Cannot you observe that you are experiencing a similar subjective, wishful phenomenon??

Maybe you should go see a psychiatrist about your delusion with Angelina Jolie. I'll continue speaking for our Creator forever.
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11/16/2014 2:26:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/16/2014 9:24:33 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/15/2014 11:16:58 PM, MEK wrote:
At 11/15/2014 8:58:57 PM, bornofgod wrote:

You are missing the answer every single time. There was no person named Jesus 2,000 years ago because they did NOT have "Jesus" in any of the languages of that time. Whatever the first saint's names were in their languages doesn't matter to us who are living in this time. I could care less what they're names were because it's the message they spoke that's important. It's the same message that I speak in English today that comes directly from the mind of our Creator who has to convert His invisible language of vibrations into the English language that I testify to in writing and speaking. I don't understand the language of invisible vibrations and neither does any of God's people. His language has to be converted into our earthly languages to understand the past, present and future that He teaches us directly from His thoughts ( mind ).

Well, 10 years ago I was watching a movie with Angelina Jolie and felt a connection with her. After searching my soul, mind and heart, I believe she and I are destined to be together. Every time I see her I feel she is with me in spirit. I know she is already married but that isn't real because she and I are destined to be together. The love I feel for her is real and I feel her vibrations - she and I are are meant to be together and I will wait as long as it takes. We have a language that no one else can hear. I know like I know I'm alive that she will be with me......

Tell me, Bornofogod - how is my example above any different than your subjective ideas about a invisible creator? I have no proof for how Angelina and I are connected. You have no proof of an invisible creator giving you messages. Both are subjective and both are subject to intense scrutiny. I believe that if a friend of yours told you what I just illustrated above you would be inclined to try to help him through his delusion.

Cannot you observe that you are experiencing a similar subjective, wishful phenomenon??

Maybe you should go see a psychiatrist about your delusion with Angelina Jolie. I'll continue speaking for our Creator forever.

EXACTLY! You have just stumbled upon what you most likely need - professional help is of nothing to be ashamed. I am sure a few sessions and perhaps a prescription or two will help you tremendously. Good luck!