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11/14/2014 10:19:57 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Americans are obsessed with the fact that they have served in the armed services!
WHY????
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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11/14/2014 10:24:21 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:19:57 AM, bulproof wrote:
Americans are obsessed with the fact that they have served in the armed services!
WHY????

Herd mentality and social defaults. In reality, volunteering to "serve" in the armed forces - despite often being of the best of intentions - is seeking the profession of a hired killer. Once you've signed, you have no choice but to kill anyone you're told to kill. That's what a "hitman" does, except a "hitman" can turn down a contract.

That said, a great many people join the armed forces because they're seeking recognition, immediate acceptance as a minor hero, and an honest desire to place their life on the line in defense of their country and the standards which define their country.
"If we believe absurdities we shall commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
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11/14/2014 10:38:09 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:24:21 AM, Beastt wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:19:57 AM, bulproof wrote:
Americans are obsessed with the fact that they have served in the armed services!
WHY????

Herd mentality and social defaults. In reality, volunteering to "serve" in the armed forces - despite often being of the best of intentions - is seeking the profession of a hired killer. Once you've signed, you have no choice but to kill anyone you're told to kill. That's what a "hitman" does, except a "hitman" can turn down a contract.

That said, a great many people join the armed forces because they're seeking recognition, immediate acceptance as a minor hero, and an honest desire to place their life on the line in defense of their country and the standards which define their country.

As an outsider I get the impression that many of the recruits are the poor, who don't have job opportunities other than the military.
Am I wrong?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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11/14/2014 10:44:14 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:40:29 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
Wrong Forum.

Well go to another one.
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11/14/2014 10:50:09 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:44:14 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:40:29 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
Wrong Forum.

Well go to another one.

A thread like this one belongs somewhere other than the Religion Forum. Might I suggest the "Society" Forum or the "Miscellaneous" Forum?
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11/14/2014 10:54:26 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:50:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:44:14 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:40:29 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
Wrong Forum.

Well go to another one.

A thread like this one belongs somewhere other than the Religion Forum. Might I suggest the "Society" Forum or the "Miscellaneous" Forum?

You may suggest whatever you like, but if you can't convince the religious that their service is not important to anyone on the planet other than themselves, then it belongs here where they make the claim of their godliness for being willing to kill people.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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11/14/2014 10:56:14 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:50:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:44:14 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:40:29 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
Wrong Forum.

Well go to another one.

A thread like this one belongs somewhere other than the Religion Forum. Might I suggest the "Society" Forum or the "Miscellaneous" Forum?

Is there a rule that says that one must expose their agenda in the O.P.? I don't know for certain but I rather assumed the full intent of the topic may not yet have been exposed.
"If we believe absurdities we shall commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
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11/14/2014 10:56:23 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:50:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:44:14 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:40:29 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
Wrong Forum.

Well go to another one.

A thread like this one belongs somewhere other than the Religion Forum. Might I suggest the "Society" Forum or the "Miscellaneous" Forum?

Actually, this topic belongs in the religious section. If it wasn't for the religious people who started building false gods, they wouldn't need a military to protect those false gods from their enemies, who were other religious people who wanted to control the world.
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11/14/2014 11:01:16 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:56:23 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:50:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:44:14 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:40:29 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
Wrong Forum.

Well go to another one.

A thread like this one belongs somewhere other than the Religion Forum. Might I suggest the "Society" Forum or the "Miscellaneous" Forum?

Actually, this topic belongs in the religious section. If it wasn't for the religious people who started building false gods, they wouldn't need a military to protect those false gods from their enemies, who were other religious people who wanted to control the world.

So you're saying that this thread belongs here because a lot of wars are religious wars?
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11/14/2014 11:12:12 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:50:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:44:14 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:40:29 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
Wrong Forum.

Well go to another one.

A thread like this one belongs somewhere other than the Religion Forum. Might I suggest the "Society" Forum or the "Miscellaneous" Forum?

probably bullproof thinks society and religion is the same.... bullproof you drunk again!
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11/14/2014 2:26:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:19:57 AM, bulproof wrote:
Americans are obsessed with the fact that they have served in the armed services!
WHY????

It can seem that way, during Vietnam it was exactly the opposite, vets were coming home to public berating. So now a days the effort is to change that with the vets of recent conflicts. American vets have been getting the shaft more often then not, in US history. Americans have a habitual need to go one way or the other, moderation is a concept beyond their sight. That"s why back in WWII I do believe the Japanese commander that attached Perl harbor stated something to the effect that they just awoke a sleeping giant. Don"t hold me to that though. In other words, it is unwise to get then to stampede toward you. Middle east has been getting some of that message. Doesn"t matter if they are in the right or in the wrong your stupid to get Americans to charge at you with American public support.

Bottom line, though the anarchist philosophy is a tolerated right in the US, there is no replacement for honest integrity of standing by your country that you have agreed to live in and honor it. Anarchists are self centered and loyal to themselves only, therefore of no real value to anyone else in the world unless they have a talent that someone else can exploit and pay for the anarchist"s cooperation for use.
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11/14/2014 8:17:30 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 11:01:16 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:56:23 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:50:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:44:14 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:40:29 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
Wrong Forum.

Well go to another one.

A thread like this one belongs somewhere other than the Religion Forum. Might I suggest the "Society" Forum or the "Miscellaneous" Forum?

Actually, this topic belongs in the religious section. If it wasn't for the religious people who started building false gods, they wouldn't need a military to protect those false gods from their enemies, who were other religious people who wanted to control the world.

So you're saying that this thread belongs here because a lot of wars are religious wars?

Most wars are started by religious people who want to dominate this world and get everyone to submit to their way of thinking.
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11/14/2014 8:20:35 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 8:17:30 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 11:01:16 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:56:23 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:50:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:44:14 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:40:29 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
Wrong Forum.

Well go to another one.

A thread like this one belongs somewhere other than the Religion Forum. Might I suggest the "Society" Forum or the "Miscellaneous" Forum?

Actually, this topic belongs in the religious section. If it wasn't for the religious people who started building false gods, they wouldn't need a military to protect those false gods from their enemies, who were other religious people who wanted to control the world.

So you're saying that this thread belongs here because a lot of wars are religious wars?

Most wars are started by religious people who want to dominate this world and get everyone to submit to their way of thinking.

How about wars over political ideology, or to overthrow a tyrant or an empire? How about race wars, wars started by disputes over who gets the throne, or wars that people engage in just for the sake of establishing an empire?
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11/14/2014 8:46:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 8:20:35 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:17:30 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 11:01:16 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:56:23 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:50:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:44:14 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:40:29 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
Wrong Forum.

Well go to another one.

A thread like this one belongs somewhere other than the Religion Forum. Might I suggest the "Society" Forum or the "Miscellaneous" Forum?

Actually, this topic belongs in the religious section. If it wasn't for the religious people who started building false gods, they wouldn't need a military to protect those false gods from their enemies, who were other religious people who wanted to control the world.

So you're saying that this thread belongs here because a lot of wars are religious wars?

Most wars are started by religious people who want to dominate this world and get everyone to submit to their way of thinking.

How about wars over political ideology, or to overthrow a tyrant or an empire? How about race wars, wars started by disputes over who gets the throne, or wars that people engage in just for the sake of establishing an empire?

All governments were formed by religious people who built false gods and worshiped false deities. These governments were formed to make laws to protect their false gods. That's why religion is always tied in with the governing bodies. The U.S. government is supported by Christians who dominate this country so far. That is rapidly changing with all the new ethnic groups moving here who bring their religious beliefs with them. This is causing the Christians to fear losing their country and why they are fighting Islam so much, even though many Muslims are moving into this country.
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11/14/2014 10:39:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 8:46:24 PM, bornofgod wrote:

All governments were formed by religious people who built false gods and worshiped false deities. These governments were formed to make laws to protect their false gods. That's why religion is always tied in with the governing bodies. The U.S. government is supported by Christians who dominate this country so far. That is rapidly changing with all the new ethnic groups moving here who bring their religious beliefs with them. This is causing the Christians to fear losing their country and why they are fighting Islam so much, even though many Muslims are moving into this country.

Yes, and soon the Crusades will rise as the phoenix from the ashes to spread it's hatred and conflict once again.

Your conflicts will kill us all.
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a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
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11/14/2014 10:44:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:39:47 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:46:24 PM, bornofgod wrote:

All governments were formed by religious people who built false gods and worshiped false deities. These governments were formed to make laws to protect their false gods. That's why religion is always tied in with the governing bodies. The U.S. government is supported by Christians who dominate this country so far. That is rapidly changing with all the new ethnic groups moving here who bring their religious beliefs with them. This is causing the Christians to fear losing their country and why they are fighting Islam so much, even though many Muslims are moving into this country.

Yes, and soon the Crusades will rise as the phoenix from the ashes to spread it's hatred and conflict once again.

Your conflicts will kill us all.

2 Peter 3
10: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.

Zephaniah 1
18: Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the LORD. In the fire of his jealous wrath, all the earth shall be consumed; for a full, yea, sudden end he will make of all the inhabitants of the earth.
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11/14/2014 11:05:37 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:44:25 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:39:47 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:46:24 PM, bornofgod wrote:

All governments were formed by religious people who built false gods and worshiped false deities. These governments were formed to make laws to protect their false gods. That's why religion is always tied in with the governing bodies. The U.S. government is supported by Christians who dominate this country so far. That is rapidly changing with all the new ethnic groups moving here who bring their religious beliefs with them. This is causing the Christians to fear losing their country and why they are fighting Islam so much, even though many Muslims are moving into this country.

Yes, and soon the Crusades will rise as the phoenix from the ashes to spread it's hatred and conflict once again.

Your conflicts will kill us all.

2 Peter 3
10: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.

Zephaniah 1
18: Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the LORD. In the fire of his jealous wrath, all the earth shall be consumed; for a full, yea, sudden end he will make of all the inhabitants of the earth.

Writing it down doesn't make it true. Copying what someone else wrote doesn't make it true.
"If we believe absurdities we shall commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
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11/14/2014 11:23:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:24:21 AM, Beastt wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:19:57 AM, bulproof wrote:
Americans are obsessed with the fact that they have served in the armed services!
WHY????

A great many people join the armed forces because they're seeking recognition, immediate acceptance as a minor hero, and an honest desire to place their life on the line in defense of their country and the standards which define their country.

I don't need recognition, to be a minor/major hero. I joined the military because I wanted to protect those who couldn't protect themselves.
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11/15/2014 12:31:36 AM
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At 11/14/2014 10:19:57 AM, bulproof wrote:
Americans are obsessed with the fact that they have served in the armed services!
WHY????

The same reason they drive huge trucks... over compensation for other "short" comings in their lives.
A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral."
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11/15/2014 12:33:21 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/15/2014 12:31:36 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:19:57 AM, bulproof wrote:
Americans are obsessed with the fact that they have served in the armed services!
WHY????

The same reason they drive huge trucks... over compensation for other "short" comings in their lives.

Harsh Jody, very harsh. ;-)
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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11/15/2014 12:55:44 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/15/2014 12:33:21 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/15/2014 12:31:36 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:19:57 AM, bulproof wrote:
Americans are obsessed with the fact that they have served in the armed services!
WHY????

The same reason they drive huge trucks... over compensation for other "short" comings in their lives.

Harsh Jody, very harsh. ;-)

I only call it as I see it. :)
A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral."
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11/15/2014 4:35:12 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:24:21 AM, Beastt wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:19:57 AM, bulproof wrote:
Americans are obsessed with the fact that they have served in the armed services!
WHY????

Herd mentality and social defaults. In reality, volunteering to "serve" in the armed forces - despite often being of the best of intentions - is seeking the profession of a hired killer. Once you've signed, you have no choice but to kill anyone you're told to kill. That's what a "hitman" does, except a "hitman" can turn down a contract.

That said, a great many people join the armed forces because they're seeking recognition, immediate acceptance as a minor hero, and an honest desire to place their life on the line in defense of their country and the standards which define their country.

I do love it when those who have never served, and have a healthy disdain for service offer up their opinion on why people do and do not serve - to see that its the same troll cattle that tells other people why they are religious should not be a surprise.

Its the same over reaching arrogance we've come to expect, and, as is usually the case, it is those with nothing to be proud of attempting to knock down those who have, if nothing else, demonstrated both bravery and the ability to give a crap about something other than themselves.

There is, for the uneducated swine out there, this little thing in the UCMJ called unlawful killing - its murder. That same code requires Soldiers of even the lowest rank to disobey any orders to carry out such a killing.

But go figure, the trolls of atheism will once again wax ignorantly about something they do not understand and have never studied, but, once again, they know more by default.

Just remember boys, you went shopping ... remember that when you talk about 'herd' mentalities.
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11/15/2014 5:13:06 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/15/2014 12:31:36 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:19:57 AM, bulproof wrote:
Americans are obsessed with the fact that they have served in the armed services!
WHY????

The same reason they drive huge trucks... over compensation for other "short" comings in their lives.

Your husband?

Standards Jody.
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11/15/2014 11:54:35 AM
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At 11/14/2014 11:05:37 PM, Beastt wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:44:25 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:39:47 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:46:24 PM, bornofgod wrote:

All governments were formed by religious people who built false gods and worshiped false deities. These governments were formed to make laws to protect their false gods. That's why religion is always tied in with the governing bodies. The U.S. government is supported by Christians who dominate this country so far. That is rapidly changing with all the new ethnic groups moving here who bring their religious beliefs with them. This is causing the Christians to fear losing their country and why they are fighting Islam so much, even though many Muslims are moving into this country.

Yes, and soon the Crusades will rise as the phoenix from the ashes to spread it's hatred and conflict once again.

Your conflicts will kill us all.

2 Peter 3
10: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.

Zephaniah 1
18: Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the LORD. In the fire of his jealous wrath, all the earth shall be consumed; for a full, yea, sudden end he will make of all the inhabitants of the earth.

Writing it down doesn't make it true. Copying what someone else wrote doesn't make it true.

Nothing is true to a very deceived man who thinks this world is real.
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11/15/2014 12:12:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 10:44:25 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:39:47 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:46:24 PM, bornofgod wrote:

All governments were formed by religious people who built false gods and worshiped false deities. These governments were formed to make laws to protect their false gods. That's why religion is always tied in with the governing bodies. The U.S. government is supported by Christians who dominate this country so far. That is rapidly changing with all the new ethnic groups moving here who bring their religious beliefs with them. This is causing the Christians to fear losing their country and why they are fighting Islam so much, even though many Muslims are moving into this country.

Yes, and soon the Crusades will rise as the phoenix from the ashes to spread it's hatred and conflict once again.

Your conflicts will kill us all.

2 Peter 3
10: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.

Zephaniah 1
18: Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the LORD. In the fire of his jealous wrath, all the earth shall be consumed; for a full, yea, sudden end he will make of all the inhabitants of the earth.

Those are merely the rantings of madmen, steeped in the very same fear and loathing projected upon us right here on these forums.

Stand on a soapbox in Hype Park and repeat those verses.

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a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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11/15/2014 12:45:48 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/14/2014 8:20:35 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:17:30 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 11:01:16 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:56:23 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:50:09 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:44:14 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:40:29 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
Wrong Forum.

Well go to another one.

A thread like this one belongs somewhere other than the Religion Forum. Might I suggest the "Society" Forum or the "Miscellaneous" Forum?

Actually, this topic belongs in the religious section. If it wasn't for the religious people who started building false gods, they wouldn't need a military to protect those false gods from their enemies, who were other religious people who wanted to control the world.

So you're saying that this thread belongs here because a lot of wars are religious wars?

Most wars are started by religious people who want to dominate this world and get everyone to submit to their way of thinking.

How about wars over political ideology, or to overthrow a tyrant or an empire? How about race wars, wars started by disputes over who gets the throne, or wars that people engage in just for the sake of establishing an empire?

This does happen sometimes. But the vast majority of the time, it's a politicians agenda wrapped in the guise of "do-gooding", like the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. The members of our armed services are being thoroughly abused by government, to serve corporations in America. The first few months of the war, American was spending 200-billion per month. The bulk of that money goes to corporations who charge the U.S. $600 for a military spec hammer or $500 for a fiberglass tray which fits under the latrine aboard a military cargo jet. The profits are outlandish and the war serves as little more than a deadly pipeline to channel the wealth of the American economy to a few companies with elevated representation in congress. The result... look at the economy now.

And what of the people who signed on as killers at the government's will, they're being abused and killed while they kill people who did nothing to bring a war upon themselves.
"If we believe absurdities we shall commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
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11/15/2014 12:49:19 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/15/2014 12:12:10 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:44:25 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:39:47 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/14/2014 8:46:24 PM, bornofgod wrote:

All governments were formed by religious people who built false gods and worshiped false deities. These governments were formed to make laws to protect their false gods. That's why religion is always tied in with the governing bodies. The U.S. government is supported by Christians who dominate this country so far. That is rapidly changing with all the new ethnic groups moving here who bring their religious beliefs with them. This is causing the Christians to fear losing their country and why they are fighting Islam so much, even though many Muslims are moving into this country.

Yes, and soon the Crusades will rise as the phoenix from the ashes to spread it's hatred and conflict once again.

Your conflicts will kill us all.

2 Peter 3
10: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.

Zephaniah 1
18: Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the LORD. In the fire of his jealous wrath, all the earth shall be consumed; for a full, yea, sudden end he will make of all the inhabitants of the earth.

Those are merely the rantings of madmen, steeped in the very same fear and loathing projected upon us right here on these forums.

Stand on a soapbox in Hype Park and repeat those verses.

Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs.

Jeremiah 6
10: To whom shall I speak and give warning, that they may hear? Behold, their ears are closed, they cannot listen; behold, the word of the LORD is to them an object of scorn, they take no pleasure in it.

Psalm 21
8:Your hand will find out all your enemies; your right hand will find out those who hate you.

Psalm 38
19: Those who are my foes without cause are mighty, and many are those who hate me wrongfully.

Amos 5
10: They hate him who reproves in the gate, and they abhor him who speaks the truth.
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11/15/2014 12:59:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/15/2014 4:35:12 AM, neutral wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:24:21 AM, Beastt wrote:
At 11/14/2014 10:19:57 AM, bulproof wrote:
Americans are obsessed with the fact that they have served in the armed services!
WHY????

Herd mentality and social defaults. In reality, volunteering to "serve" in the armed forces - despite often being of the best of intentions - is seeking the profession of a hired killer. Once you've signed, you have no choice but to kill anyone you're told to kill. That's what a "hitman" does, except a "hitman" can turn down a contract.

That said, a great many people join the armed forces because they're seeking recognition, immediate acceptance as a minor hero, and an honest desire to place their life on the line in defense of their country and the standards which define their country.

I do love it when those who have never served, and have a healthy disdain for service offer up their opinion on why people do and do not serve - to see that its the same troll cattle that tells other people why they are religious should not be a surprise.

Its the same over reaching arrogance we've come to expect, and, as is usually the case, it is those with nothing to be proud of attempting to knock down those who have, if nothing else, demonstrated both bravery and the ability to give a crap about something other than themselves.

There is, for the uneducated swine out there, this little thing in the UCMJ called unlawful killing - its murder. That same code requires Soldiers of even the lowest rank to disobey any orders to carry out such a killing.

But go figure, the trolls of atheism will once again wax ignorantly about something they do not understand and have never studied, but, once again, they know more by default.

Just remember boys, you went shopping ... remember that when you talk about 'herd' mentalities.

Fire-fighter / Engineer
EMT / Ambulance Attendant
30-years in Law Enforcement

It's not that I never served. I just had the strange idea that I could serve people better by saving them, saving their burning homes and giving them medical treatment than I could by killing them for being of the "wrong" nationality.
"If we believe absurdities we shall commit atrocities." -- Voltaire