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11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?
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11/23/2014 9:13:09 AM
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At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A cult starts by one man deceiving another man without the Truth to give them the answer to how life began. Do you know the answer?
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11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.
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11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.
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11/23/2014 9:46:30 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.

*falls out of chair laughing* no we are not. We never tell you that you HAVE to believe it, just that it's true.
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11/23/2014 9:57:09 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.

Pretty hollow accusation from the guy who claims that no one save for him has authority to preach the word of God.
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11/23/2014 10:00:43 AM
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At 11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.
I don't know; I guess I like getting information shoved down my throat then.
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11/23/2014 10:01:42 AM
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At 11/23/2014 9:57:09 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.


Pretty hollow accusation from the guy who claims that no one save for him has authority to preach the word of God.

What's the word of God?
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11/23/2014 10:02:57 AM
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At 11/23/2014 10:00:43 AM, miraculous wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.
I don't know; I guess I like getting information shoved down my throat then.

Most people don't realize they're getting information shoved down their throat from other people who have no clue what the Truth is.
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11/23/2014 10:25:28 AM
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At 11/23/2014 10:02:57 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 10:00:43 AM, miraculous wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.
I don't know; I guess I like getting information shoved down my throat then.

Most people don't realize they're getting information shoved down their throat from other people who have no clue what the Truth is.

Does anyone know what the truth is?

*Mindphunk*
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11/23/2014 10:30:46 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

I see very little difference in the definitions.

For example, if Scientology or Mormonism are cults and Christianity and Islam are religions, why do the latter two get the status of religions when they were the drivers for the killing of millions of people over the centuries?

Shouldn't they be called cults, instead?
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11/23/2014 11:02:11 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

The Dictionary says a cult is a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. I don't know the follower numbers of those "religions", so I can't really declare if they're cults or not. The Christian definition of a cult is "a religious group that denies one or more of the fundamentals of biblical truth." Which would make all of those religions cults. In the sociological classifications of religious movements, a cult is a religious or other social group with socially deviant and novel beliefs and practices, which would make all of those religions cults depending on who you ask. Another definition says a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object, which makes every monotheistic religion a cult...presumably. Then another definition is a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing, which mainly applies to personality cults or idol worship.

The word "cult" has been controversial. One reason is that it (as used in the pejorative sense) is considered a subjective term, used as an ad hominem attack against groups with simply differing doctrines or practices, and without a clear or consistent definition.
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11/23/2014 11:17:38 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

The only difference is size.

https://www.youtube.com... 14:59
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11/23/2014 11:21:29 AM
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At 11/23/2014 11:02:11 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

The Dictionary says a cult is a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. I don't know the follower numbers of those "religions", so I can't really declare if they're cults or not. The Christian definition of a cult is "a religious group that denies one or more of the fundamentals of biblical truth." Which would make all of those religions cults. In the sociological classifications of religious movements, a cult is a religious or other social group with socially deviant and novel beliefs and practices, which would make all of those religions cults depending on who you ask. Another definition says a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object, which makes every monotheistic religion a cult...presumably. Then another definition is a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing, which mainly applies to personality cults or idol worship.

The word "cult" has been controversial. One reason is that it (as used in the pejorative sense) is considered a subjective term, used as an ad hominem attack against groups with simply differing doctrines or practices, and without a clear or consistent definition.

Either way, the main difference between cults and religion is size.
"This is the true horror of religion. It allows perfectly decent and sane people to believe by the billions, what only lunatics could believe on their own." Sam Harris
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11/23/2014 11:40:21 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/23/2014 11:17:38 AM, SamStevens wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

The only difference is size.

https://www.youtube.com... 14:59

I was already watching that when you posted the link
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11/23/2014 11:42:59 AM
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At 11/23/2014 11:40:21 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
At 11/23/2014 11:17:38 AM, SamStevens wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

The only difference is size.

https://www.youtube.com... 14:59

I was already watching that when you posted the link

In my opinion, I find it to be a good television series. Although the host, Nicky Campbell, sometimes 'favors' one particular side.
"This is the true horror of religion. It allows perfectly decent and sane people to believe by the billions, what only lunatics could believe on their own." Sam Harris
Life asked Death "Why do people love me but hate you?"
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11/23/2014 12:28:10 PM
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At 11/23/2014 11:42:59 AM, SamStevens wrote:
At 11/23/2014 11:40:21 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
At 11/23/2014 11:17:38 AM, SamStevens wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

The only difference is size.

https://www.youtube.com... 14:59

I was already watching that when you posted the link

In my opinion, I find it to be a good television series. Although the host, Nicky Campbell, sometimes 'favors' one particular side.

yes, that's the problem with this kind of show
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11/23/2014 12:30:16 PM
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At 11/23/2014 10:01:42 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:57:09 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.


Pretty hollow accusation from the guy who claims that no one save for him has authority to preach the word of God.

What's the word of God?

There is no god and there is no word of God.
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11/23/2014 2:27:22 PM
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At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

Social norms, which I guess would go along with social acceptance that you mention above. I prefer to avoid the whole convoluted mess.
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11/23/2014 5:34:30 PM
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At 11/23/2014 9:46:30 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.

*falls out of chair laughing* no we are not. We never tell you that you HAVE to believe it, just that it's true.

Haha, that could be turned, you know... ;)
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11/23/2014 7:38:05 PM
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At 11/23/2014 10:01:42 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:57:09 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.


Pretty hollow accusation from the guy who claims that no one save for him has authority to preach the word of God.

What's the word of God?

Please, don't play dumb. Hiding behind intent and expression doesn't suit you.
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11/23/2014 7:43:38 PM
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At 11/23/2014 12:30:16 PM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 10:01:42 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:57:09 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.


Pretty hollow accusation from the guy who claims that no one save for him has authority to preach the word of God.

What's the word of God?

There is no god and there is no word of God.

Where's your proof that there is no Word of God. Several quantum physicists are now studying it but that doesn't mean they understand it as the Word of God. They know it as "consciousness".
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11/23/2014 7:45:43 PM
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At 11/23/2014 7:38:05 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 11/23/2014 10:01:42 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:57:09 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.


Pretty hollow accusation from the guy who claims that no one save for him has authority to preach the word of God.

What's the word of God?

Please, don't play dumb. Hiding behind intent and expression doesn't suit you.

I'm not dumb at all. I know what the Word of God is but I'm asking you what it is. If you can't answer it, then you're the one who is dumb.
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11/23/2014 7:48:08 PM
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At 11/23/2014 10:30:46 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

I see very little difference in the definitions.

For example, if Scientology or Mormonism are cults and Christianity and Islam are religions, why do the latter two get the status of religions when they were the drivers for the killing of millions of people over the centuries?

Shouldn't they be called cults, instead?

Any group that believes in false deities and worships them in their false gods built with human hands is a cult, which is the same thing as religion.
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11/23/2014 8:24:44 PM
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At 11/23/2014 9:46:30 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.

*falls out of chair laughing* no we are not. We never tell you that you HAVE to believe it, just that it's true.

True, but there are some forms of discrimination against that minority which believes the opposing view (Creationism).
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11/24/2014 2:18:56 AM
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At 11/23/2014 9:13:09 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A cult starts by one man deceiving another man without the Truth to give them the answer to how life began. Do you know the answer?

you have the truth of the invisible God. your secrets are so amazing! come on tell us whats the answer!!! i love you.
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11/24/2014 4:52:21 AM
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At 11/23/2014 7:45:43 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 7:38:05 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 11/23/2014 10:01:42 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:57:09 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.


Pretty hollow accusation from the guy who claims that no one save for him has authority to preach the word of God.

What's the word of God?

Please, don't play dumb. Hiding behind intent and expression doesn't suit you.

I'm not dumb at all. I know what the Word of God is but I'm asking you what it is. If you can't answer it, then you're the one who is dumb.

According to your dictate... er.... mandate... er.... explanation, I CAN'T KNOW, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHOM CAN PREACH IT.

Sort of like a cult.

No, sorry, my bad.

EXACTLY like a cult.
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11/24/2014 7:12:17 AM
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At 11/23/2014 8:24:44 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:46:30 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.

*falls out of chair laughing* no we are not. We never tell you that you HAVE to believe it, just that it's true.

True, but there are some forms of discrimination against that minority which believes the opposing view (Creationism).

Creationism is, in itself, a cult isnt it?
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11/24/2014 7:59:34 AM
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At 11/23/2014 7:43:38 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 12:30:16 PM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 10:01:42 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:57:09 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:41:36 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:26:51 AM, Gaming_Debater wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A religion is just meant to explain things. A cult is when members shove those explanations down people's (other than their kids') throats.

So evolutionists must be a cult.


Pretty hollow accusation from the guy who claims that no one save for him has authority to preach the word of God.

What's the word of God?

There is no god and there is no word of God.

Where's your proof that there is no Word of God. Several quantum physicists are now studying it but that doesn't mean they understand it as the Word of God. They know it as "consciousness".

No, no. Where is your proof that there is a such things as the "word of god"? The requirement of evidence is on the one making the claim(granted, Gaming_Debater did make a claim that there isn't a god at all which is also unprovable at the moment). If you could be so kind as to provide any substantial evidence that a god exists and that what physicists are studying is somehow "his word" that would be peachy keen.
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11/24/2014 8:48:57 AM
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At 11/24/2014 2:18:56 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:13:09 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 11/23/2014 9:09:24 AM, BblackkBbirdd wrote:
...cult?

Number of followers? Social acceptance?....

Are Scientology, Mormonism and Unification Church (Moonies) cults?

A cult starts by one man deceiving another man without the Truth to give them the answer to how life began. Do you know the answer?

you have the truth of the invisible God. your secrets are so amazing! come on tell us whats the answer!!! i love you.

God calls Himself the Truth because there is no witness to His creation that He created us and his beasts within His mind. This means that God is the only one who is real. Everything else was formed within His thoughts as His dream. This secret should humiliate all of us but He made His people believe this world was real so it's almost impossible to convince them otherwise. Only God's chosen believers will hear His Word and believe some of it or possibly all of it.

There is a Christian trying to debate me on the subject, "Everything is an illusion". You will see how he has to twist every part of the scriptures I use to defend his view that this world is real. He has no secret knowledge to share so he will always be in a defensive mode while I share God's Truth.

Have a great day in the mind of God my friend. He and I love you, too.