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11/29/2014 3:06:20 PM
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Zephaniah 2:3-5. It is a prophecy warning Christians that when they see the Psalm 83 conflict they should ready themselves for the rapture. Zephaniah, one of the Minor Prophets, predicts a war that comes before the "Day of the Lord." He appeals to the "meek of the earth," those with faith in Christ Jesus, to understand that this war signals that the seven-year Tribulation Period draws near. "Seek the LORD, all you meek of the Earth, Who have upheld His justice. Seek righteousness, seek humility. It may be that you will be hidden In the day of the LORD'S anger" (Zephaniah 2:3). Due to the catastrophic circumstances that occur during the day of the Lord - the Tribulation - Zephaniah pleads with believers to do what it takes to be hidden from the events of the day of the LORD by getting themselves in a proper relationship with Jesus. Only by being born again by accepting Jesus as our Lord and Savior will we be removed via the rapture before the onset of the horrors of the Tribulation.
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11/29/2014 7:34:46 PM
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At 11/29/2014 3:06:20 PM, Rant wrote:
Zephaniah 2:3-5. It is a prophecy warning Christians that when they see the Psalm 83 conflict they should ready themselves for the rapture. Zephaniah, one of the Minor Prophets, predicts a war that comes before the "Day of the Lord." He appeals to the "meek of the earth," those with faith in Christ Jesus, to understand that this war signals that the seven-year Tribulation Period draws near. "Seek the LORD, all you meek of the Earth, Who have upheld His justice. Seek righteousness, seek humility. It may be that you will be hidden In the day of the LORD'S anger" (Zephaniah 2:3). Due to the catastrophic circumstances that occur during the day of the Lord - the Tribulation - Zephaniah pleads with believers to do what it takes to be hidden from the events of the day of the LORD by getting themselves in a proper relationship with Jesus. Only by being born again by accepting Jesus as our Lord and Savior will we be removed via the rapture before the onset of the horrors of the Tribulation.

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11/30/2014 1:12:27 AM
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At 11/29/2014 3:06:20 PM, Rant wrote:
Zephaniah 2:3-5. It is a prophecy warning Christians that when they see the Psalm 83 conflict they should ready themselves for the rapture. Zephaniah, one of the Minor Prophets, predicts a war that comes before the "Day of the Lord." He appeals to the "meek of the earth," those with faith in Christ Jesus, to understand that this war signals that the seven-year Tribulation Period draws near. "Seek the LORD, all you meek of the Earth, Who have upheld His justice. Seek righteousness, seek humility. It may be that you will be hidden In the day of the LORD'S anger" (Zephaniah 2:3). Due to the catastrophic circumstances that occur during the day of the Lord - the Tribulation - Zephaniah pleads with believers to do what it takes to be hidden from the events of the day of the LORD by getting themselves in a proper relationship with Jesus. Only by being born again by accepting Jesus as our Lord and Savior will we be removed via the rapture before the onset of the horrors of the Tribulation.

... just goes to show the utter insanity that accompanies pre-millennialism.
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11/30/2014 9:01:30 AM
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Now after Paul had hammered home the truth of the already revealed resurrection of Christ and the future resurrection of believers from the dead, he then chose to reveal a previously unknown truth:

"Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed" in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed" (1 Corinthians 15:51-52).

The mystery was not that there would be a resurrection of the dead in Christ, the mystery was that there would be a resurrection of the living in Christ!
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11/30/2014 9:19:48 AM
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At 11/29/2014 3:06:20 PM, Rant wrote:
Zephaniah 2:3-5. It is a prophecy warning Christians that when they see the Psalm 83 conflict they should ready themselves for the rapture. Zephaniah, one of the Minor Prophets, predicts a war that comes before the "Day of the Lord." He appeals to the "meek of the earth," those with faith in Christ Jesus, to understand that this war signals that the seven-year Tribulation Period draws near. "Seek the LORD, all you meek of the Earth, Who have upheld His justice. Seek righteousness, seek humility. It may be that you will be hidden In the day of the LORD'S anger" (Zephaniah 2:3). Due to the catastrophic circumstances that occur during the day of the Lord - the Tribulation - Zephaniah pleads with believers to do what it takes to be hidden from the events of the day of the LORD by getting themselves in a proper relationship with Jesus. Only by being born again by accepting Jesus as our Lord and Savior will we be removed via the rapture before the onset of the horrors of the Tribulation.

Why do heathens named Christians get the idea that "the meek" is about them? The meek is about ALL God's people in His spirit. The flesh of man is what dies in this world, not the spirit of a man.

John 6
63: It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

Ecclesiastes 3
19: For the fate of the sons of men and the fate of beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts; for all is vanity.
20: All go to one place; all are from the dust, and all turn to dust again.

Even us saints and prophets ( the flesh ) are killed for our testimonies of the true Word of God. Why do you Christians insist on avoiding the death of your flesh?

Revelation 6
9: When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne;
10: they cried out with a loud voice, "O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before thou wilt judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell upon the earth?"
11: Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.
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11/30/2014 1:40:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
The world thinks pre-trib are like some type of "elite" group-- because they don't truly understand that salvation is not contingent upon belief in the Rapture, therefore it would just be human nature to be jealous that "we" believe we are going and they are not.....

Whatever is the reason(s)....jealousy, confusion, strife, ego, pride, etc. it surely is a condition of the flesh. We don't believe in the Rapture because it makes sense or because we can reason it out or figure it out. We believe in it because we believe the word of God and his promises....we know emphatically that he will not leave us here to suffer wrath. And really I can't imagine taking up any other position...the trib is going to be every horror movie come to real life and then some and then some no one has ever envisioned.....why would God want his children to suffer through that.....
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12/1/2014 3:14:20 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 11/30/2014 1:40:05 PM, Rant wrote:
The world thinks pre-trib are like some type of "elite" group-- because they don't truly understand that salvation is not contingent upon belief in the Rapture, therefore it would just be human nature to be jealous that "we" believe we are going and they are not.....

I'm very confident in proclaiming that there isn't a human being on the planet who would be jealous of you.
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12/5/2014 4:38:36 AM
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At 11/29/2014 3:06:20 PM, Rant wrote:
Zephaniah 2:3-5. It is a prophecy warning Christians that when they see the Psalm 83 conflict they should ready themselves for the rapture, etc.

There is no pre-trib Rapture as revealed in scripture:
Behold! I show you a mystery: We shall not al fall asleep in death, but we shall be changed.ln a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the sound of the last trumpet; for the trumpet shall sound and the dead shall be raised incorruptible and we (The living) shall be changed. For this corruptible (Body) must put on incorruption and this mortal (Body) must put on immortality, etc.

This happens at the sound of the last trumpet after the thousand year rule of the anointed one who will rule the whole world through the resurrected body of Jesus, who take the thrones that have been prepared for them and ruled as Kings with the anointed one for a thousand years. These are the first to be raised from death. The rest of the dead do not come to life until after the thousand year rule of our Lord and saviour, the anointed one.

They who take the thrones that have been prepared for them are the spirits of good people who had died and paid the blood price for their inherited sin and any mistakes that they may have made in their life and had been judged and gathered to our parental spirit (Enoch) in the bosom of Abraham, of whom the man Jesus was his duplication. And over these, the second death had no power.

When Jesus gave up his spirit, they who were of the indwelling spiritual body of Enoch rose from their graves and three days later they entered the city and showed themselves to many people as the risen Christ=anointed one..

One would expect the risen body to appear to the family of Jesus first, and this is exactly what we see.

The first to see one of they, who were of the body of the risen Christ, (Enoch the anointed one---the 365 day old unblemished Lamb of God, reborn on earth as Jesus who was offered up for our sake,) were his Mother, Mary the wife of Cleophas and her "Adelphe" Mary Magdalene, who, although looking straight at him, thought that he was the gardener, until he spoke her name.

The next to who one of the risen body of Christ appeared, were Cleophas, who is also called Alpheas, who is the biological father of James the youngest of Mary's three biological sons, and James was the first to sit on the Episcopal throne of the church of the circumcision, and Cleophas, the husband of Mary, who, with his son Simon, 'to another marriage,' and the one who was to inherit the Episcopal throne of the church of the circumcision after his half brother, 'James the righteous,' was killed at the instigation of the same Sadducee sect that had his full brother Jesus killed.

Although Cleophas the carpenter an Simon his son and step brother to Jesus, walked and talked with one of the risen body of Christ for some kilometres, they did not recognise him for who he was, until Simon saw the manner in which he broke the bread,

Cleophas then returned to Jerusalem, where eleven of the disciples, which included Simon Peter and Simon the Patriot, were cowering in a darkened room, the only one absent that evening when Jesus appeared in that dimly lit room in the form that they recognised as Jesus, was Thomas Jude another step brother of Jesus, who was called the Twin, although nowhere does the bible say that he was an actual twin or whether he just held a striking resemblance to someone else. But back to Cleophas, who said to the eleven, "He has risen, he appeared to Simon," who was of course, Simon the brother of Jesus who succeeded "James the younger" as the head of the church founded by Jesus.

Then there were the seven disciples who were fishing on Lake Galilee having no success at all, when someone on the bank told them to throw their net on the right side of the boat in which they caught 153 fishes, sitting down to eat with the person who had a fire prepared with fish on it and some bread, not one of the seven disciples of Jesus who had walked and talked with him, dared to ask who he was, but they understood that he was of the risen body of Christ. Even when he ascended up into heaven as a cloud, some of the 11 disciples doubted that it was he.

These, who are the body of Jesus, are the ones who will be resurrected back to physical life and take the thrones that are prepared for them and rule as kings with the anointed one for a thousand years.
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12/5/2014 5:56:37 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/5/2014 4:38:36 AM, Gentorev wrote:
When Jesus gave up his spirit, they who were of the indwelling spiritual body of Enoch rose from their graves and three days later they entered the city and showed themselves to many people
Do you have some historical, not hysterical, evidence of this zombie invasion of Jerusalem?
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12/5/2014 3:22:18 PM
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At 11/29/2014 3:06:20 PM, Rant wrote:
Zephaniah 2:3-5. It is a prophecy warning Christians that when they see the Psalm 83 conflict they should ready themselves for the rapture.

Zephaniah !: 2-3; (2) The Lord said, "I am going to destroy everything on earth. (3) All human beings, animals, birds and fish. I will bring about the downfall of the wicked. I will destroy all mankind, and no survivors will be left. I, the Lord have spoken." (18) On the day the Lord shows his fury, not even all their gold or silver will save them. The whole earth will be destroyed by the fire of his anger. He will put an end---a sudden end---to everyone who lives on earth.

Revelation 20: At the close of the Great Sabbath, (The seventh period from Adam) The last trumpet will sound and fire will descend from heaven and incinerate all physical life form on this planet.

The Toba super eruption was a super volcanic eruption that occurred sometime between 69,000 and 77,000 years ago at Lake Toba (Sumatra Indonesia). It is recognised as one of earth"s largest eruptions.

Thousands of cubic kilometres of material would have been blasted out into the stratosphere blocking out the light all over the world, turning the sun and moon into huge blood red orbs and causing the earth"s temperature to drop some 21% and it would possibly have been a thousand years before rainbows could form in our atmosphere again.

The related catastrophe theory holds that this event plunged the planet into a 6 to 10 year volcanic winter and possibly an additional 1,000 year cooling episode. This change in temperature resulted in the world"s proto-human population being reduced to 10,000 or even a mere 1,000 breeding pairs, creating a bottleneck in human evolution.

Could this be more of a blessing, than a curse, could a protective shield around the earth to protect us from increased heavenly radiation for a period of time, be established, to give us time to prepare for the ultimate end of all physical life forms that remain on this planet, and if so how?

The ground beneath Yellowstone is said to be 74cm higher today than it was in 1923, which indicates a massive swelling beneath the Park. Scientists believe that the reservoir of Magma is filling at an alarming rate and as that volcano erupts with an average cycle of 600,000 years and the last eruption was more than 640,000 years ago"we are overdue for annihilation.

Forget about the death total within the immediate period of the explosive eruption, but just imagine what happens to our communication and ground and air transport systems, fuel supplies, power grids, atomic power stations spewing out radiation into the atmosphere, etc, etc.

What did Jesus say concerning that day? "Pray that your flight be not in winter, (The nuclear/volcanic winter) and woe unto the women who are pregnant in those days, perhaps the evolutionary son of man, comes from mutants that will be born in those days.

And it shall come to pass in that day, (The Lord"s Day of one thousand years) that the light shall not be clear or dark: and it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that evening time it shall be light. (Jupiter in opposition)

Could the Great prophesied war in the Middle East be the trigger to set off the volcano beneath Yellowstone, bringing in a thousand year period of twilight in which rainbows can't form in our atmosphere? And when, according to Isaiah 65: 20, "If one were to die during that period at the age of 100, they would be but a child.

In that day says Isaiah, The lion will lay down with the sheep and all people will live out their full life span. A hundred year old person will be considered to be but a child etc.

It is some time after the thousand years have ended that the last trumpet will sound and the elect and chosen will be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, from bodies of corruptible matter into glorious bodies of incorruptible light, and they shall be caught up to heaven to be with Jesus, as the fire from heaven descends and incinerates the surface of this planet.

Knowing that which is to occur after the Sabbath, and with the great wealth that will be paid in tribute by the nations of the world during that thousand years, genetic banks of all physical life forms will be created, (The Ark) and when the incinerated earth is once again able to sustain physical life forms, Plants will be planted, and animals will be created anew, and when the system for the sustainability of mankind has been put in place, the Lord Jesus, our brother, king, and high priest will say, "And now, let us make man in our image and likeness." And a new and more humble Race of men will people this earth. upiter, this God continues for some time totally concentered in himself; afterwards we see a

"The world being melted and re-entered into the bosom of J new world spring from him, perfect in all its parts; animals are produced anew; an innocent race of men is formed under more favorable auspices, in order to people this earth." Seneca, Epist. 9. and quest. nat L. 3, c, ult.
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12/5/2014 7:00:23 PM
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The last verse in my previous post should have read: "The world being melted and re-entered into the bosom of Jupiter, this God continues for some time totally concentered in himself; afterwards we see a new world spring from him, perfect in all its parts; animals are produced anew; an innocent race of men is formed under more favorable auspices, in order to people this earth." Seneca, Epist. 9. and quest. nat L. 3, c, ult.

In relation to the weekly Sabbath, Paul says, "Let no one make rules about what you eat or drink or about Holy days or the New Moon Festival or the Sabbath. All such things are but a shadow of things to come in the future, etc.

From the Book of Jubilees 4: 30; "And He (Adam) lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: "On the day thou eat thereof ye shall die." For this reason Adam did not complete the years of that first day; for He died during it."

For one thousand years are to the Lord as one day. "He is the Lord of the Sabbath." The day of the Lord is the Sabbath or the seventh period of one thousand years, from the day, in which Adam ate of the forbidden fruit and died in that day at the age of 930.

The heavenly fire that will destroy this earth and all upon it, I believe has something to do with Jupiter becoming a dwarf brown star or some other phenomenon associated with Jupiter.

In dream I saw the heavens ablaze with balls of fire
Huge hailstones that were burning and streaking down the skies
The earth was clothed in purples, dark orange, and deep blue
Like a swaddling cloth surrounding us that hid the stars from view
Dark clouds rose from the mountain peaks, earth's veins were opened wide
Through which her inner blood spewed forth in streams of living fire
Whole continents, they heaved and tossed, waves rippled through the ground
In all the earth, no hiding place of safety could be found.
The oceans boiled, they foamed and rose destroying cities on their shores
All the river dams were busted, valley towns were seen no more
The power stations of the earth--all were melted down
A few survivors of the human race were all that could be found
And then I saw the winter, a winter so severe
It lasted not a few short months, but many, many, years
And the women who were pregnant, Ahh, the children that they bore
Grotesque and hideous malformations, I pray to see that sight no more.
Then when the winter lifted and the crops began to grow
A strange and eerie world emerged from the destruction and the snow
A world with neither day nor night, where rainbows couldn't form
In the atmosphere above the earth, and yet the air was strangely warm.
A thousand years of twilight and through that swaddling band on high
Three blood red giants were blazing in an hazed and orange sky
The sun and moon had turned to blood, but far brighter than the moon
Was Jupiter, that heavenly light, which in time would spell man's doom........BY Gentorev.
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12/5/2014 7:34:31 PM
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The African tectonic plate and the Arabian plate, meet in a line that runs through the Red Sea and up the Jordan valley running smack bang through the middle of the Mount of Olives, to the east of Jerusalem.

Concerning the war to end all wars, when the nations have all surrounded Jerusalem in order to drive the Israelites into the sea, Zechariah has this to say in 14: 3; "Then the Lord will go out to fight against those nations as he has fought in times past. At that time he will stand on the mount of Olives. Then the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west by a large valley. Half the mountain (On the African plate) will move northward, and half of it (On the Arabian plate) will move southward.

Could all this seismic activity in the Middle East, be caused by some greater event?

This is from a documentary on Yellowstone where scientists in the field of volcanic activity speak of that particular hot spot.

The volume of Yellowstone"s magmatic system is about twenty to twenty thousand cubic kilometres. It is about eighty kilometres long, forty kilometres wide, and eight kilometres deep. In other words, the magma chamber is over three times the size of New York City. Steve Parks believes that if a Super eruption occurred tomorrow, the consequences would be catastrophic. An area the size of a continent would be utterly devastated and the planet would suffer server effects for years after.

Looking at the recent eruptive history of Yellowstone said Bill Mcguire, there"s been minor eruptions every twenty to thirty thousand years, but nothing"s been seen for some seventy thousand years, which suggests that something might be overdue. He reckons that another Super eruption somewhere on the earth is an absolute certainty, whether it will be at Yellowstone is still questionable, but there is a reasonable chance there will be. Super eruptions have occurred throughout earth"s history and they aint going to stop now.

A new cycle of Super eruptions began over two million years ago when the hot spot arrived under Yellowstone. Since then there have been two more Super eruptions at Yellowstone. One point 3 million years ago and the other six hundred and forty thousand years ago. Disturbingly, these eruptions appear to be in a cycle of between six to seven hundred thousand years and the last one was six hundred and forty thousand years ago.

[Quote Bill Mcguire]: We could have an eruption next year, or we may have to wait many thousands of years to come. Now I would not be surprised if there were another eruption in my life time, but I would also not be surprised if there were not.

Professor Bill Mcguire was born in 1954 and is Professor of Geohazards at University College London and is Britain"s leading volcanologists. He has a PhD in Geology from Liton College of Higher Education, now the University of Bedfordshire in the 1980s, former home of well known TV geologist Iain Stewart. He was then appointed Reader at Cheltham & Gloucester College of Higher Education, which is now the University of Gloucester, and made it into the university sector in the 1990s when he was appointed Professor of Geohazards and Director of the Aon Benfield UCL Hazard Research Centre at University College London.

The two-episode documentary that I referred to, reveals the cutting-edge research that informed the drama. Where the experts who monitor the behaviour of the Yellowstone supervolcano, and who face the awesome responsibility of predicting when the next super-eruption might next take place - and advising on what will happen when it does. The programme goes behind the scenes to reveal the work being done to try to understand the sequence of events that could one day culminate in this apocalypse, and to calculate the global fallout that would follow it.

The commentators and those who worked behind the scenes of this documentary, were Allisdair, the voice of the narrator, Bill Mcguire whose qualification have been given, Jake Lowenstern from the Yellowstone Observatory, Steve Sparks of the university of Bristol, Hank Heasler who was/is the Co-ordinator scientist, Yellowstone National Park, Bob Smith a professor from the University of Utah, plus others.
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12/5/2014 7:42:03 PM
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Zechariah speaks of the day in which the Lord will save his people. Chapter 14: "The Lord will come to fight for his people as he has fought in times past. He will fight the enemies of Israel; those Nation who surround Jerusalem in their attempt to drive God"s chosen people into the sea.

The Lord will throw them into a state of confusion, and the weapons of destruction, with which they would destroy Israel, He will cause them to turn upon their own allies, and they will suffer a terrible disease, the soft tissue, such as their eyes and tongues will melt in their sockets, and their radiated flesh, "cooked to the bone," will slide from their bodies while they are still standing.

Then all the surviving Nations, will send their representatives each year to Jerusalem in the land of Israel, to worship, and pay tribute to the Lord, who will rule the whole world with a rod of iron and woe betide those who refuse to do so.

Knowing that which is to occur after the Sabbath, and with the great wealth that will be paid in tribute by the nations of the world during that thousand years, genetic banks of all physical life forms will be created, (The Ark) and when the incinerated earth is once again able to sustain physical life forms, Plants will be planted, and animals will be created anew, and when the system for the sustainability of mankind has been put in place, the Lord Jesus, our brother, king, and high priest will say, "And now, let us make man in our image and likeness." And a new and more humble Race of men will people this earth.