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12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM
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Why don't atheists write up all their rants and turn it into a book so that they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream in forums all the time? It kind of gets old after a while you see.
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12/3/2014 9:55:21 PM
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Lol
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12/3/2014 10:03:19 PM
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Well, that would be easier for theists than actually engaging atheists in honest debate... on a debate site where too many forum subjects have people insisting there is a god...
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12/3/2014 10:03:57 PM
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At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
Why don't atheists write up all their rants and turn it into a book so that they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream in forums all the time? It kind of gets old after a while you see.

Why don't theists write up all their ridiculous, childish beliefs and turn it into a book ...

Oh, wait ...
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12/3/2014 10:11:01 PM
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At 12/3/2014 10:03:19 PM, Fly wrote:
Well, that would be easier for theists than actually engaging atheists in honest debate... on a debate site where too many forum subjects have people insisting there is a god...

There are plenty of of theists who have made some intellectual debates. You just gotta know where to find them.
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12/3/2014 10:12:12 PM
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Keep your religion where it belongs, in your churches and in your homes, and you won't hear another peep out of most atheists. But as long as religious folks are shoving their beliefs into science classrooms and the government and public spaces, we're going to be there shoving back.
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12/3/2014 10:13:20 PM
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At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
Why don't atheists write up all their rants and turn it into a book so that they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream in forums all the time? It kind of gets old after a while you see.

Actually, the internet forums are where atheist's write their scriptures.
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12/3/2014 10:19:49 PM
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At 12/3/2014 10:11:01 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
At 12/3/2014 10:03:19 PM, Fly wrote:
Well, that would be easier for theists than actually engaging atheists in honest debate... on a debate site where too many forum subjects have people insisting there is a god...

There are plenty of of theists who have made some intellectual debates. You just gotta know where to find them.

We also know Dinesh D souza is not one of those intellectuals. Francis Collins is one I consider to be intellectual as well as Ard Louis and Alister McGrath.
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12/3/2014 10:23:49 PM
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At 12/3/2014 10:12:12 PM, Burzmali wrote:
Keep your religion where it belongs, in your churches and in your homes, and you won't hear another peep out of most atheists. But as long as religious folks are shoving their beliefs into science classrooms and the government and public spaces, we're going to be there shoving back.

It's called freedom of religion. And public places are just that: public. Theist are a part of the public and have every right to free speech that you do. Have every right to vote on who represent them. Have every to voice their opinion on how they want their children raised, resources used, and what should or shouldn't be ethically accepted.

no man or woman is an island onto themselves. Sometimes you are going to be neighbors with someone who has a different world view then yourself.

Why don't you keep your Atheism to where it belongs. Inside your home and trolling on forums.
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12/3/2014 10:26:28 PM
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The only use I would have for an atheist 'Bible' is for fodder to quote, Chapter and Verse, at Christian/Islamic people who quote their texts as if it is evidence of something about reality.

There is nothing wrong with quoting those for historical purposes, (St Paul said X, so he thinks X), but not for much else.

In any case I was tempted to write a comprehensive counter-apologetics blog... But a million of those already exist, so meh.
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12/3/2014 10:26:53 PM
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At 12/3/2014 10:11:01 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
At 12/3/2014 10:03:19 PM, Fly wrote:
Well, that would be easier for theists than actually engaging atheists in honest debate... on a debate site where too many forum subjects have people insisting there is a god...

There are plenty of of theists who have made some intellectual debates. You just gotta know where to find them.

On this site? Are they not in the Religion forum then?

If you mean off this site, even the most intellectual debaters for theism lack objective evidence.
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12/3/2014 10:29:30 PM
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At 12/3/2014 10:23:49 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 12/3/2014 10:12:12 PM, Burzmali wrote:
Keep your religion where it belongs, in your churches and in your homes, and you won't hear another peep out of most atheists. But as long as religious folks are shoving their beliefs into science classrooms and the government and public spaces, we're going to be there shoving back.

It's called freedom of religion. And public places are just that: public. Theist are a part of the public and have every right to free speech that you do. Have every right to vote on who represent them. Have every to voice their opinion on how they want their children raised, resources used, and what should or shouldn't be ethically accepted.

no man or woman is an island onto themselves. Sometimes you are going to be neighbors with someone who has a different world view then yourself.

Why don't you keep your Atheism to where it belongs. Inside your home and trolling on forums.

My comment was within the context of the OP's whining about having his views criticized. You're just echoing my point: don't air your opinions in public if you can't bear to be confronted over them.
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12/3/2014 10:33:54 PM
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At 12/3/2014 10:29:30 PM, Burzmali wrote:
At 12/3/2014 10:23:49 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 12/3/2014 10:12:12 PM, Burzmali wrote:
Keep your religion where it belongs, in your churches and in your homes, and you won't hear another peep out of most atheists. But as long as religious folks are shoving their beliefs into science classrooms and the government and public spaces, we're going to be there shoving back.

It's called freedom of religion. And public places are just that: public. Theist are a part of the public and have every right to free speech that you do. Have every right to vote on who represent them. Have every to voice their opinion on how they want their children raised, resources used, and what should or shouldn't be ethically accepted.

no man or woman is an island onto themselves. Sometimes you are going to be neighbors with someone who has a different world view then yourself.

Why don't you keep your Atheism to where it belongs. Inside your home and trolling on forums.

My comment was within the context of the OP's whining about having his views criticized. You're just echoing my point: don't air your opinions in public if you can't bear to be confronted over them.

I read the OP as expressing a feeling of exasperation in finding "discussion" on atheist/theist topics beneath the multitude of bare assertions and trolling posts.
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12/3/2014 10:35:29 PM
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At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
Why don't atheists write up all their rants and turn it into a book so that they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream in forums all the time? It kind of gets old after a while you see.

Why don't Christians write up all their beliefs and turn it into a book so they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream everywhere all the time? Oh wait ...
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12/3/2014 10:37:28 PM
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At 12/3/2014 10:35:29 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
Why don't atheists write up all their rants and turn it into a book so that they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream in forums all the time? It kind of gets old after a while you see.

Why don't Christians write up all their beliefs and turn it into a book so they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream everywhere all the time? Oh wait ...

And just see how well that worked out...
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12/3/2014 10:38:33 PM
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At 12/3/2014 10:33:54 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 12/3/2014 10:29:30 PM, Burzmali wrote:
At 12/3/2014 10:23:49 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 12/3/2014 10:12:12 PM, Burzmali wrote:
Keep your religion where it belongs, in your churches and in your homes, and you won't hear another peep out of most atheists. But as long as religious folks are shoving their beliefs into science classrooms and the government and public spaces, we're going to be there shoving back.

It's called freedom of religion. And public places are just that: public. Theist are a part of the public and have every right to free speech that you do. Have every right to vote on who represent them. Have every to voice their opinion on how they want their children raised, resources used, and what should or shouldn't be ethically accepted.

no man or woman is an island onto themselves. Sometimes you are going to be neighbors with someone who has a different world view then yourself.

Why don't you keep your Atheism to where it belongs. Inside your home and trolling on forums.

My comment was within the context of the OP's whining about having his views criticized. You're just echoing my point: don't air your opinions in public if you can't bear to be confronted over them.

I read the OP as expressing a feeling of exasperation in finding "discussion" on atheist/theist topics beneath the multitude of bare assertions and trolling posts.

And I read it as a tantrum being thrown by a presumably grown adult acting much like my toddler does when I challenge his desire to continue to play with toys at bedtime. I guess everyone sees things differently.
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12/3/2014 11:32:27 PM
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At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
Why don't atheists write up all their rants and turn it into a book so that they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream in forums all the time? It kind of gets old after a while you see.

Well the problem is we have problems in the world, poverty, climate change, growing populations, ext. In order to hope to find quality solutions to these problems, we must understand reality as well as we can. Theists don't understand reality. Religion offers to easy of access in controlling one mind. As an example, we here in the United States have people telling the religious they should reject climate change because god wouldn't allow it. This is a block to actually addressing the problem. The reason I try to remove belief from the theist is that problems need to be addressed and often religion stands in the way. So religion must be removed. If the theist would just acknowledge data and reality, it would all be good. So the choice is made, you reject reality, I must try and tear belief from you. Not my first choice. Only my last option.
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12/4/2014 12:02:44 AM
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At 12/3/2014 11:32:27 PM, NoMagic wrote:
At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
Why don't atheists write up all their rants and turn it into a book so that they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream in forums all the time? It kind of gets old after a while you see.

Well the problem is we have problems in the world, poverty, climate change, growing populations, ext. In order to hope to find quality solutions to these problems, we must understand reality as well as we can. Theists don't understand reality. Religion offers to easy of access in controlling one mind. As an example, we here in the United States have people telling the religious they should reject climate change because god wouldn't allow it. This is a block to actually addressing the problem. The reason I try to remove belief from the theist is that problems need to be addressed and often religion stands in the way. So religion must be removed. If the theist would just acknowledge data and reality, it would all be good. So the choice is made, you reject reality, I must try and tear belief from you. Not my first choice. Only my last option.

^This
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12/4/2014 12:22:54 AM
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At 12/3/2014 11:32:27 PM, NoMagic wrote: : : At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote: : : : : Well the problem is we have problems in the world, poverty, climate change, growing populations, ext. In order to hope to find quality solutions to these problems, we must understand reality as well as we can. Theists don't understand reality. Religion offers to easy of access in controlling one mind. As an example, we here in the United States have people telling the religious they should reject climate change because god wouldn't allow it. This is a block to actually addressing the problem. The reason I try to remove belief from the theist is that problems need to be addressed and often religion stands in the way. So religion must be removed. If the theist would just acknowledge data and reality, it would all be good. So the choice is made, you reject reality, I must try and tear belief from you. Not my first choice. Only my last option. You want to ban religion? Sounds like Stalin and Zedong.
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12/4/2014 12:28:15 AM
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At 12/4/2014 12:22:54 AM, Conservative101 wrote:
At 12/3/2014 11:32:27 PM, NoMagic wrote: : : At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote: : : : : Well the problem is we have problems in the world, poverty, climate change, growing populations, ext. In order to hope to find quality solutions to these problems, we must understand reality as well as we can. Theists don't understand reality. Religion offers to easy of access in controlling one mind. As an example, we here in the United States have people telling the religious they should reject climate change because god wouldn't allow it. This is a block to actually addressing the problem. The reason I try to remove belief from the theist is that problems need to be addressed and often religion stands in the way. So religion must be removed. If the theist would just acknowledge data and reality, it would all be good. So the choice is made, you reject reality, I must try and tear belief from you. Not my first choice. Only my last option.

You want to ban religion? Sounds like Stalin and Zedong.

Where did you get 'ban' in any of that?
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12/4/2014 1:31:16 AM
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At 12/3/2014 10:13:20 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
Why don't atheists write up all their rants and turn it into a book so that they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream in forums all the time? It kind of gets old after a while you see.

Actually, the internet forums are where atheist's write their scriptures.

Actually, atheists don't have any "scriptures". We never have, and we never will. We don't need scripture. If you want to know what most atheists believe, reality is right there in front of you.

If you want to know what a particular theist believes, you need a book because reality won't show you.
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12/4/2014 1:45:12 AM
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At 12/3/2014 10:35:29 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
Why don't atheists write up all their rants and turn it into a book so that they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream in forums all the time? It kind of gets old after a while you see.

Why don't Christians write up all their beliefs and turn it into a book so they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream everywhere all the time? Oh wait ...

Hey, stop stealing my lines! :-)
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12/4/2014 9:14:02 AM
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At 12/4/2014 12:28:15 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 12/4/2014 12:22:54 AM, Conservative101 wrote:
At 12/3/2014 11:32:27 PM, NoMagic wrote: : : At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote: : : : : Well the problem is we have problems in the world, poverty, climate change, growing populations, ext. In order to hope to find quality solutions to these problems, we must understand reality as well as we can. Theists don't understand reality. Religion offers to easy of access in controlling one mind. As an example, we here in the United States have people telling the religious they should reject climate change because god wouldn't allow it. This is a block to actually addressing the problem. The reason I try to remove belief from the theist is that problems need to be addressed and often religion stands in the way. So religion must be removed. If the theist would just acknowledge data and reality, it would all be good. So the choice is made, you reject reality, I must try and tear belief from you. Not my first choice. Only my last option.


You want to ban religion? Sounds like Stalin and Zedong.

Where did you get 'ban' in any of that?

"So religion must be removed."
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12/4/2014 10:42:05 PM
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At 12/4/2014 9:14:02 AM, Conservative101 wrote:
At 12/4/2014 12:28:15 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 12/4/2014 12:22:54 AM, Conservative101 wrote:
At 12/3/2014 11:32:27 PM, NoMagic wrote: : : At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote: : : : : Well the problem is we have problems in the world, poverty, climate change, growing populations, ext. In order to hope to find quality solutions to these problems, we must understand reality as well as we can. Theists don't understand reality. Religion offers to easy of access in controlling one mind. As an example, we here in the United States have people telling the religious they should reject climate change because god wouldn't allow it. This is a block to actually addressing the problem. The reason I try to remove belief from the theist is that problems need to be addressed and often religion stands in the way. So religion must be removed. If the theist would just acknowledge data and reality, it would all be good. So the choice is made, you reject reality, I must try and tear belief from you. Not my first choice. Only my last option.


You want to ban religion? Sounds like Stalin and Zedong.

Where did you get 'ban' in any of that?

"So religion must be removed."

As an obstacle to the problem.
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12/5/2014 3:06:38 AM
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At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
Why don't atheists write up all their rants and turn it into a book so that they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream in forums all the time? It kind of gets old after a while you see.

Well, that would ruin it. Atheism isn't a religion. You should try it. :P
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12/5/2014 4:21:16 AM
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At 12/5/2014 3:06:38 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
Why don't atheists write up all their rants and turn it into a book so that they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream in forums all the time? It kind of gets old after a while you see.

Well, that would ruin it. Atheism isn't a religion. You should try it. :P

Atheism is not a religion per se, but it is a faith. The derivation and underlying meaning of "re-legion" precludes atheism from being classified as such. However, for purposes here, being a certain system of faith is sufficient. Atheism accepts certain tenets blindly just as they accuse religions of doing.
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12/5/2014 4:40:59 AM
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At 12/5/2014 4:21:16 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/5/2014 3:06:38 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
Why don't atheists write up all their rants and turn it into a book so that they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream in forums all the time? It kind of gets old after a while you see.

Well, that would ruin it. Atheism isn't a religion. You should try it. :P

Atheism is not a religion per se, but it is a faith. The derivation and underlying meaning of "re-legion" precludes atheism from being classified as such. However, for purposes here, being a certain system of faith is sufficient.

"Atheism accepts certain tenets blindly"

examples include....?

just as they accuse religions of doing.
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12/5/2014 4:55:02 AM
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At 12/5/2014 4:40:59 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 12/5/2014 4:21:16 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/5/2014 3:06:38 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
Why don't atheists write up all their rants and turn it into a book so that they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream in forums all the time? It kind of gets old after a while you see.

Well, that would ruin it. Atheism isn't a religion. You should try it. :P

Atheism is not a religion per se, but it is a faith. The derivation and underlying meaning of "re-legion" precludes atheism from being classified as such. However, for purposes here, being a certain system of faith is sufficient.

"Atheism accepts certain tenets blindly"

examples include....?

Here's one:

There is absolutely no reason under the sun for dating the book of Acts at any time other than AD 62-64. None at all. It is a running narrative and ends abruptly with Paul in Rome, yet no outcome of his case is given. Yet atheists will uniformly date the book around AD 100. Why? Well, they have to! Why? Because the book of Luke (which predates Acts) prophesies very specifically of the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. That's why! Since they can't have such specific prophesies antedating the destruction of the city, they move the dates to accommodate their theories.

That's just one example. There are dozens just like it.
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12/5/2014 4:59:54 AM
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At 12/5/2014 4:55:02 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/5/2014 4:40:59 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 12/5/2014 4:21:16 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/5/2014 3:06:38 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
Why don't atheists write up all their rants and turn it into a book so that they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream in forums all the time? It kind of gets old after a while you see.

Well, that would ruin it. Atheism isn't a religion. You should try it. :P

Atheism is not a religion per se, but it is a faith. The derivation and underlying meaning of "re-legion" precludes atheism from being classified as such. However, for purposes here, being a certain system of faith is sufficient.

"Atheism accepts certain tenets blindly"

examples include....?

Here's one:

There is absolutely no reason under the sun for dating the book of Acts at any time other than AD 62-64. None at all. It is a running narrative and ends abruptly with Paul in Rome, yet no outcome of his case is given. Yet atheists will uniformly date the book around AD 100. Why? Well, they have to! Why? Because the book of Luke (which predates Acts) prophesies very specifically of the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. That's why! Since they can't have such specific prophesies antedating the destruction of the city, they move the dates to accommodate their theories.

That's just one example. There are dozens just like it.

So the veracity of the Bible is being questioned... and its the athiest's blind faith in the Bible that forces it to be debated?
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12/5/2014 5:24:39 AM
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At 12/5/2014 4:59:54 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 12/5/2014 4:55:02 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/5/2014 4:40:59 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 12/5/2014 4:21:16 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 12/5/2014 3:06:38 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/3/2014 9:54:32 PM, Conservative101 wrote:
Why don't atheists write up all their rants and turn it into a book so that they can feed off of and so we don't have to hear them scream in forums all the time? It kind of gets old after a while you see.

Well, that would ruin it. Atheism isn't a religion. You should try it. :P

Atheism is not a religion per se, but it is a faith. The derivation and underlying meaning of "re-legion" precludes atheism from being classified as such. However, for purposes here, being a certain system of faith is sufficient.

"Atheism accepts certain tenets blindly"

examples include....?

Here's one:

There is absolutely no reason under the sun for dating the book of Acts at any time other than AD 62-64. None at all. It is a running narrative and ends abruptly with Paul in Rome, yet no outcome of his case is given. Yet atheists will uniformly date the book around AD 100. Why? Well, they have to! Why? Because the book of Luke (which predates Acts) prophesies very specifically of the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. That's why! Since they can't have such specific prophesies antedating the destruction of the city, they move the dates to accommodate their theories.

That's just one example. There are dozens just like it.

So the veracity of the Bible is being questioned

Not only questioned, but certain theories are accepted in blind faith. As I said, this is but one example.
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