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banker
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5/15/2010 7:09:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Like all religions islam also advocating reincarnation
http://rose-sufi-crescent.blogspot.com...
the most important source for muslim Arabs:

"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd'.".

- Qur'an 17:104 -

Any sincere muslim must recognize the Land they call "Palestine" as the Jewish Homeland, according to the book considered by muslims to be the most sacred word and Allah's ultimate revelation.

Ibn Khaldun, one of the most creditable
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5/15/2010 7:10:43 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/15/2010 7:09:10 PM, banker wrote:
Like all religions islam also advocating reincarnation
http://rose-sufi-crescent.blogspot.com...

I wonder who Rothbard will be reincarnated as.
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5/15/2010 8:24:30 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Insert of curse not all will comperhand that...!!!
the most important source for muslim Arabs:

"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd'.".

- Qur'an 17:104 -

Any sincere muslim must recognize the Land they call "Palestine" as the Jewish Homeland, according to the book considered by muslims to be the most sacred word and Allah's ultimate revelation.

Ibn Khaldun, one of the most creditable
InsertNameHere
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5/15/2010 8:29:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Banker, you fail.

How can ye reject
The faith in God?—
Seeing that ye were without life,
And He gave you life
Then will He cause you to die,
And will again bring you to life;
And again to Him will ye return.- Qur'an 2:28

Note the highlighted part. It says that you'll return to God in heaven, not be reincarnated.
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5/15/2010 8:32:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/15/2010 8:29:00 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Banker, you fail.

How can ye reject
The faith in God?—
Seeing that ye were without life,
And He gave you life
Then will He cause you to die,
And will again bring you to life;
And again to Him will ye return.- Qur'an 2:28

Note the highlighted part. It says that you'll return to God in heaven, not be reincarnated.

*cough PWN'd cough*
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Mirza
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5/15/2010 8:39:06 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
This is kufr, i.e. disbelief. It is directly in conflict with what the Qur'an says about resurrection.

We Muslims must believe that after we all die, we will be resurrected on the Day of Judgement. The Qur'an has an entire chapter called 'Al Qiyamah. Read it if you wish, banker.
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5/15/2010 8:41:43 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/15/2010 8:34:30 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 5/15/2010 8:32:22 PM, BigMac wrote:

*cough PWN'd cough*

That was too easy. ;)

Sufism isn't restricted by the Quran. It's got influences from the East in addition to its Islamic roots.
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5/15/2010 8:43:01 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/15/2010 8:34:30 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 5/15/2010 8:32:22 PM, BigMac wrote:

*cough PWN'd cough*

That was too easy. ;)

obviously O_o
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5/15/2010 8:43:07 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/15/2010 8:41:43 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 5/15/2010 8:34:30 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 5/15/2010 8:32:22 PM, BigMac wrote:

*cough PWN'd cough*

That was too easy. ;)

Sufism isn't restricted by the Quran. It's got influences from the East in addition to its Islamic roots.

Well most muslims don't consider it real Islam, but it has Qur'anic roots so it is still Islam.
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5/15/2010 8:44:14 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
[Qur'an 2:28] "'How can you reject faith in God? Do you not recall that you were once without life, and Allah gave you life; then God will cause you to die, and will again bring you to life; and finally to Allah will you return."

How is this so easy to misinterpret? It is simple: You did not exist, Allah gave you life (you are living), Allah will let you die, and you will be brought to live (on the Day of Resurrection). Where is "reincarnation"?
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5/15/2010 8:47:21 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/15/2010 8:41:43 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Sufism isn't restricted by the Quran. It's got influences from the East in addition to its Islamic roots.
All kinds of practices being in direct conflict with the Qur'an are not Islamic. Do you know what "Shirk" is? This is practiced by many followers of such sects.
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5/15/2010 10:01:42 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Its obvious that some prefer parts of quran they could use to label others kafur...!!!

However the other parts as indicated confirm qurans suport for incarnation...!!

Please don't allow those jumping with quotes from their selective parts to distract you..!!!
the most important source for muslim Arabs:

"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd'.".

- Qur'an 17:104 -

Any sincere muslim must recognize the Land they call "Palestine" as the Jewish Homeland, according to the book considered by muslims to be the most sacred word and Allah's ultimate revelation.

Ibn Khaldun, one of the most creditable
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5/15/2010 10:16:51 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
banker, wtf is up with your punctuation? the whole"...!!" after every sentence is almost as annoying as DATC capitalizing random words.
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banker
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5/16/2010 12:36:14 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Insert I seen your quote I hope you read the quotes in the link too...!!
I don't expect you to respond to it you like other quotes that your able to interperate otherwize
the most important source for muslim Arabs:

"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd'.".

- Qur'an 17:104 -

Any sincere muslim must recognize the Land they call "Palestine" as the Jewish Homeland, according to the book considered by muslims to be the most sacred word and Allah's ultimate revelation.

Ibn Khaldun, one of the most creditable
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5/16/2010 3:17:59 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/15/2010 7:10:43 PM, Reasoning wrote:
At 5/15/2010 7:09:10 PM, banker wrote:
Like all religions islam also advocating reincarnation
http://rose-sufi-crescent.blogspot.com...

I wonder who Rothbard will be reincarnated as.

6 days after Rothbard died, Qaasim Middleton was born. Fair guess to say it was him.
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