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apologetics1697
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12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?
tabularasa
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12/11/2014 2:52:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?

I believe that I am happy because I went through some miserable times. I am grateful for my suffering, and even my sins (in a strange way). I was always selfish growing up. My selfishness made me unhappy. God and other people taught me how to serve, and then I experienced joy. Anyone who serves others will experience the same joy, whether religious or not. My growth from a miserable, self-worshiping jerk into a man of service has made doubly joyful. Because I was unhappy, I am happier now. I am more grateful for the joy that God has given me. When I was miserable, I was actually learning how to be happy. I wish that all unhappy people would have this experience, and realize that their misery is only part of a process of growth towards joy.
1. I already googled it.

2. Give me an argument. Spell it out. "You're wrong," is not an argument.
apologetics1697
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12/11/2014 3:05:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/11/2014 2:52:46 PM, tabularasa wrote:
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?

I believe that I am happy because I went through some miserable times. I am grateful for my suffering, and even my sins (in a strange way). I was always selfish growing up. My selfishness made me unhappy. God and other people taught me how to serve, and then I experienced joy. Anyone who serves others will experience the same joy, whether religious or not. My growth from a miserable, self-worshiping jerk into a man of service has made doubly joyful. Because I was unhappy, I am happier now. I am more grateful for the joy that God has given me. When I was miserable, I was actually learning how to be happy. I wish that all unhappy people would have this experience, and realize that their misery is only part of a process of growth towards joy.

Thanks, so theres a respponse from a christian, do we have any non religious people who will answer these questions? If you do answer please number your responses to each question. Atheists? Rastafarians? Lets hear from yall
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12/11/2014 3:08:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?

Good day, God, who' will was for perfect happiness for mortals, created them to know only good. The rebellion caused bad( evil) onto the earth--in Gods kingdom--it will go back to being Gods will. He created everything, those claiming to have faith in him, should automatically trust in his decisions. I am positive Gods decisions require thought of all for all time. A mortal wouldn't have a clue as to what that' like.
In a system as we are in, satan has made it to be--Love turns to pain in the end. Either break up--or death.
Solomon taught it best--He said--All is vanity( in this system) except for the searching out of God. Living to do his will is how one gains entrance into his kingdom--where real lasting happiness will be a reality--forever. Live for entrance into it now. Find Jehovah-John 4:22-24
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12/11/2014 3:24:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?

Sorry that I failed to answer the question in the way you requested.

1. Already answered.
2. It is perhaps subjective and objective. Happiness is a personal feeling, so it is clearly subjective. But homo sapiens have a common evolutionary history, so it may be that many people can experience happiness by doing and thinking the same sorts of things. Perhaps it is also objective in a sense.
3. Happiness can arise from victory, redemption, relationships, faith, honest living, seeking truth, playing games, satisfaction of physical appetites, accomplishing goals, giving your best effort (even though you may fail), helping others, helping yourself, creatively expressing yourself, succeeding in some endeavor. The list can go on and on. There are levels of happiness. Perhaps the highest level of happiness encompasses some combination of all of these origins.
4. It is hard not to be sad and angry amidst tragedy. However, tragedy is a part of life and assists us in personal growth. The hero's quest as a form of literature was invented to help humans cope with tragedy. Through hope and perseverance, growth takes place and the tragic character is more than restored. He is given a joy that he never knew existed prior to the tragic event.
1. I already googled it.

2. Give me an argument. Spell it out. "You're wrong," is not an argument.
apologetics1697
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12/11/2014 3:25:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/11/2014 3:08:51 PM, kjw47 wrote:
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?


Good day, God, who' will was for perfect happiness for mortals, created them to know only good. The rebellion caused bad( evil) onto the earth--in Gods kingdom--it will go back to being Gods will. He created everything, those claiming to have faith in him, should automatically trust in his decisions. I am positive Gods decisions require thought of all for all time. A mortal wouldn't have a clue as to what that' like.
In a system as we are in, satan has made it to be--Love turns to pain in the end. Either break up--or death.
Solomon taught it best--He said--All is vanity( in this system) except for the searching out of God. Living to do his will is how one gains entrance into his kingdom--where real lasting happiness will be a reality--forever. Live for entrance into it now. Find Jehovah-John 4:22-24

Thanks for the reply, im still looking for some answers from any non-religious people.. i know your out there, and id be obliged if you just took a few seconds to tell what you think about happiness. Also if you could please reply with numbered responses coinciding with the questions asked
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12/11/2014 4:17:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?

True happiness is living without any fears. This won't be experienced until after this world is destroyed and we get new bodies that will never be used to deceive man again.
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12/11/2014 10:57:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Bump. I want to hear from non-theists, too.
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12/11/2014 11:04:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?

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12/11/2014 11:14:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?

What brings me and my friends together. Happiness, I think could be best typified by the temprorary suspension of the day to day grind to enjoy eachother's company.

Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?

The presence of it, I think is objective, but the catalyst is subjective indeed.

What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?

Many. Comradery, accomplishment, commiseration (yeah, it can be happy, too), anniversary... these are what springs to mind immediately.

Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?

Cold comfort and the humor of the gallows. Absolutely. I think the term 'ever cloud has a silver lining' stems from such a truism.
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12/11/2014 11:29:49 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?

There are many external things that can give you profound feelings of security, hope, comfort, love, acceptance, etc, and make you feel generally 'happy' for a moment. But true happiness comes from within. If you know that your happiness comes from within and you are able to maintain that serenity, then even in the midst of tragedy that personal happiness can at least give you hope. I am a non-theist. Please be nice.
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12/11/2014 11:43:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?

"Happiness is a warm gun".
--- John Lennon
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12/12/2014 12:41:51 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/11/2014 11:43:03 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?

"Happiness is a warm gun".
--- John Lennon

Bang bang shoot shoot ;)
A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral."
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12/12/2014 12:57:25 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/12/2014 12:41:51 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/11/2014 11:43:03 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?

"Happiness is a warm gun".
--- John Lennon

Bang bang shoot shoot ;)

Mama, you know it!
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12/12/2014 1:02:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/12/2014 12:57:25 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/12/2014 12:41:51 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/11/2014 11:43:03 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?

"Happiness is a warm gun".
--- John Lennon

Bang bang shoot shoot ;)

Mama, you know it!

I cannot stomach this blatant display of graphic representation and flirtation. You both should be ashamed. Banging, and banging and shooting and shooting, and not just guns, but WARM guns banging and shooting.

Reprehensible.
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12/12/2014 1:05:53 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/12/2014 1:02:00 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 12/12/2014 12:57:25 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/12/2014 12:41:51 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/11/2014 11:43:03 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?

"Happiness is a warm gun".
--- John Lennon

Bang bang shoot shoot ;)

Mama, you know it!

I cannot stomach this blatant display of graphic representation and flirtation. You both should be ashamed. Banging, and banging and shooting and shooting, and not just guns, but WARM guns banging and shooting.

Reprehensible.

And fingers on triggers... oh my!
A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral."
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12/12/2014 1:06:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/12/2014 1:02:00 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 12/12/2014 12:57:25 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/12/2014 12:41:51 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/11/2014 11:43:03 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?

"Happiness is a warm gun".
--- John Lennon

Bang bang shoot shoot ;)

Mama, you know it!

I cannot stomach this blatant display of graphic representation and flirtation. You both should be ashamed. Banging, and banging and shooting and shooting, and not just guns, but WARM guns banging and shooting.

Reprehensible.

Sorry, Mother Superior. Fingers are now off triggers. We jumped the gun. :-)
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12/12/2014 1:25:55 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/12/2014 1:06:49 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/12/2014 1:02:00 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 12/12/2014 12:57:25 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/12/2014 12:41:51 AM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/11/2014 11:43:03 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/11/2014 2:39:37 PM, apologetics1697 wrote:
I am looking for people personal opinions in answer to these questions:
How would you define happiness based on your non-religious or religious views?
Is "happiness" itself, subjective? Or is it objective?
What kinds (categories) (if any) of "happiness" are there? Only one, or many?
Is it possible to be happy in the midst of tragedy?

"Happiness is a warm gun".
--- John Lennon

Bang bang shoot shoot ;)

Mama, you know it!

I cannot stomach this blatant display of graphic representation and flirtation. You both should be ashamed. Banging, and banging and shooting and shooting, and not just guns, but WARM guns banging and shooting.

Reprehensible.

Sorry, Mother Superior. Fingers are now off triggers. We jumped the gun. :-)

You should all be forced to keep your hands down your pants were there won't be any accidental discharges, stroking of triggers, or switching to full-auto.
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