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Death and Vegetative State

Bennett91
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12/12/2014 11:41:41 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
What does this forum think of cases like Teri Shivo and this little girl (http://news.yahoo.com...)? Are the brain dead really dead? Has the soul departed leaving a "functional" shell? Or is the soul trapped?

Both atheists and theists can debate this regarding the ethics of taking vegetative people of off life support and the moral and spiritual implications of being in such a state.
bornofgod
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12/12/2014 11:59:14 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/12/2014 11:41:41 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
What does this forum think of cases like Teri Shivo and this little girl (http://news.yahoo.com...)? Are the brain dead really dead? Has the soul departed leaving a "functional" shell? Or is the soul trapped?

Both atheists and theists can debate this regarding the ethics of taking vegetative people of off life support and the moral and spiritual implications of being in such a state.

All flesh is dead but the information it takes to run our bodies is our created existence within the mind of God. God can make any of His people believe we are real as long as we're in a body that appears to move, speak, hear, taste, smell, touch and feel emotionally. Otherwise, all we are is invisible information, waiting to be processed into life experiences to make us believe we're actually something real.
Bennett91
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12/12/2014 12:07:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/12/2014 11:59:14 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/12/2014 11:41:41 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
What does this forum think of cases like Teri Shivo and this little girl (http://news.yahoo.com...)? Are the brain dead really dead? Has the soul departed leaving a "functional" shell? Or is the soul trapped?

Both atheists and theists can debate this regarding the ethics of taking vegetative people of off life support and the moral and spiritual implications of being in such a state.

All flesh is dead but the information it takes to run our bodies is our created existence within the mind of God. God can make any of His people believe we are real as long as we're in a body that appears to move, speak, hear, taste, smell, touch and feel emotionally. Otherwise, all we are is invisible information, waiting to be processed into life experiences to make us believe we're actually something real.

So where does this put those who are brain dead who can't further be processed into life experience? Or is the state they are in a life process in of it self regardless of the soul?
jodybirdy
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12/12/2014 1:42:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/12/2014 11:41:41 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
What does this forum think of cases like Teri Shivo and this little girl (http://news.yahoo.com...)? Are the brain dead really dead? Has the soul departed leaving a "functional" shell? Or is the soul trapped?

Both atheists and theists can debate this regarding the ethics of taking vegetative people of off life support and the moral and spiritual implications of being in such a state.

Brain dead means that the brain has suffered complete irreversible death. The lungs and heart can be kept pumping by use if machines which leaves the patient in a vegetative state. They are technically dead. Their mind, thoughts, memories and everything that made them who they were is dead and gone. Life ends at brain death. It is unethical and downright morbid to keep a body alive after brain death. Anyone who refuses to sign papers that will allow a hospital to take a brain dead person, even a child, off of life support might be "brain dead" (stupid) as well. As sad as it is. As for a soul being attached to the body, if there ever was, wouldn't it be better to let it move on? It's pointless. You can't communicate with dead loved one's soul.
A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral."