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Gentorev
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12/16/2014 4:55:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

In the feeding of the 5000 as recorded in Matthew 14: 13-21; Mark 6: 30-44; Luke 9: 10-16; and John 6: 1-14; there was five loves and two fishes.

In the feeding of the 4000, which was a completely different event that took place in a completely different location, as recorded in Matthew 15: 32-38; and Mark 8: 1-10; there was seven fishes and a few loves.

I respond to this in order to inform the Godless atheists who haunt these religious forums, of the truths that are revealed in the scriptures.
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12/16/2014 5:48:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 4:55:31 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

In the feeding of the 5000 as recorded in Matthew 14: 13-21; Mark 6: 30-44; Luke 9: 10-16; and John 6: 1-14; there was five loves and two fishes.

In the feeding of the 4000, which was a completely different event that took place in a completely different location, as recorded in Matthew 15: 32-38; and Mark 8: 1-10; there was seven fishes and a few loves.

I respond to this in order to inform the Godless atheists who haunt these religious forums, of the truths that are revealed in the scriptures.

There were seven loaves and a few fishes, typo error in previous post now rectified.
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12/16/2014 7:43:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 5:48:07 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/16/2014 4:55:31 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

In the feeding of the 5000 as recorded in Matthew 14: 13-21; Mark 6: 30-44; Luke 9: 10-16; and John 6: 1-14; there was five loves and two fishes.

In the feeding of the 4000, which was a completely different event that took place in a completely different location, as recorded in Matthew 15: 32-38; and Mark 8: 1-10; there was seven fishes and a few loves.

I respond to this in order to inform the Godless atheists who haunt these religious forums, of the truths that are revealed in the scriptures.

There were seven loaves and a few fishes, typo error in previous post now rectified.

I see that there are no godless atheists who are prepared to challenge my post.
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12/16/2014 8:06:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

Two different times, dude.
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12/16/2014 9:47:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

God had me feed over 5,000 people with absolutely no income.
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12/16/2014 11:38:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 9:47:48 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

God had me feed over 5,000 people with absolutely no income.

Spiritual food is not counted in reality. Besides that the stuff you feed them is junk food.
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12/17/2014 12:29:05 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 11:38:29 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:47:48 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

God had me feed over 5,000 people with absolutely no income.

Spiritual food is not counted in reality. Besides that the stuff you feed them is junk food.

You weren't there to witness the spiritual teachings or all the good food that was donated to me to cook for my friends.

Have you ever done anything for other people besides argue with them?
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12/17/2014 12:34:50 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 12:29:05 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/16/2014 11:38:29 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:47:48 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

God had me feed over 5,000 people with absolutely no income.

Spiritual food is not counted in reality. Besides that the stuff you feed them is junk food.

You weren't there to witness the spiritual teachings or all the good food that was donated to me to cook for my friends.

Have you ever done anything for other people besides argue with them?

Do know what it the following means ?
"Don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing."
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12/17/2014 12:35:54 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 12:34:50 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:29:05 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/16/2014 11:38:29 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:47:48 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

God had me feed over 5,000 people with absolutely no income.

Spiritual food is not counted in reality. Besides that the stuff you feed them is junk food.

You weren't there to witness the spiritual teachings or all the good food that was donated to me to cook for my friends.

Have you ever done anything for other people besides argue with them?

Do know what it the following means ?
"Don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing."

Have you ever done anything for other people besides argue with them?
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12/17/2014 12:37:35 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 12:35:54 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:34:50 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:29:05 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/16/2014 11:38:29 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:47:48 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

God had me feed over 5,000 people with absolutely no income.

Spiritual food is not counted in reality. Besides that the stuff you feed them is junk food.

You weren't there to witness the spiritual teachings or all the good food that was donated to me to cook for my friends.

Have you ever done anything for other people besides argue with them?

Do know what it the following means ?
"Don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing."

Have you ever done anything for other people besides argue with them?

If you were God would not need to ask me that question.
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12/17/2014 12:38:29 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 12:37:35 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:35:54 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:34:50 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:29:05 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/16/2014 11:38:29 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:47:48 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

God had me feed over 5,000 people with absolutely no income.

Spiritual food is not counted in reality. Besides that the stuff you feed them is junk food.

You weren't there to witness the spiritual teachings or all the good food that was donated to me to cook for my friends.

Have you ever done anything for other people besides argue with them?

Do know what it the following means ?
"Don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing."

Have you ever done anything for other people besides argue with them?

If you were God would not need to ask me that question.

If you weren't such a liar, you would answer the question.
Gentorev
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12/17/2014 1:06:27 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

Why Skyangel bothers to argue with a brain dead ex-alcoholic, who is obviously a poor deluded Schizophrenic needing to be pitied, is beyond me.

But at lest me old mate bulproof is no longer confused. He now knows that in the feeding of the 5,000 there were 5 loaves and two fishes and the feeding of the 4,000 , which were two different events, that were held in two different locations, there were seven loaves and a few fishes.

I hope this has been of some benefit in your study of the Holy Scriptures bulproof.
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12/17/2014 3:03:53 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

I thought you were talking about ELO.

On some days it's in the 4K range in others it's in the 5K range.

As far as the loaves of bread thing is concerned, I don't know but either number is pretty decent.

It's like people who squabble over whether Hitler killed 6 million Jews or 5 million. Dude, either way the number is significant.
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12/17/2014 3:07:30 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 1:06:27 AM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

Why Skyangel bothers to argue with a brain dead ex-alcoholic, who is obviously a poor deluded Schizophrenic needing to be pitied, is beyond me.

Why are you such a d1ck? There is no call for that type of character assassination.

But at lest me old mate bulproof is no longer confused. He now knows that in the feeding of the 5,000 there were 5 loaves and two fishes and the feeding of the 4,000 , which were two different events, that were held in two different locations, there were seven loaves and a few fishes.

I hope this has been of some benefit in your study of the Holy Scriptures bulproof.
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12/17/2014 4:01:45 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 3:07:30 AM, Wylted wrote:
At 12/17/2014 1:06:27 AM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

Why Skyangel bothers to argue with a brain dead ex-alcoholic, who is obviously a poor deluded Schizophrenic needing to be pitied, is beyond me.

Why are you such a d1ck? There is no call for that type of character assassination.

But at lest me old mate bulproof is no longer confused. He now knows that in the feeding of the 5,000 there were 5 loaves and two fishes and the feeding of the 4,000 , which were two different events, that were held in two different locations, there were seven loaves and a few fishes.

I hope this has been of some benefit in your study of the Holy Scriptures bulproof.

Have you watched his video? he is a self confessed alcoholic, who says that he was combing his hair in the mirror, in preparation to going out and getting another skin full of alcohol, when this supposed God of his became him. what do you suppose that a good Psychiatrist would think of a grown man who believes that he is the god who fed the 5,000 people near Bethsaida in Israel.

You may think I am a dick, I believe that he is a brain damaged ex-alcoholic who is suffering from a severe case of Schizophrenia, who needs to be pitied. If you believe that this truth is character assassination, then you are perfectly entitled to your opinion, which is in opposition to my belief.
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12/17/2014 7:46:31 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 5:48:07 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/16/2014 4:55:31 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

In the feeding of the 5000 as recorded in Matthew 14: 13-21; Mark 6: 30-44; Luke 9: 10-16; and John 6: 1-14; there was five loves and two fishes.

In the feeding of the 4000, which was a completely different event that took place in a completely different location, as recorded in Matthew 15: 32-38; and Mark 8: 1-10; there was seven fishes and a few loves.

I respond to this in order to inform the Godless atheists who haunt these religious forums, of the truths that are revealed in the scriptures.

There were seven loaves and a few fishes, typo error in previous post now rectified.

Nah, I liked it better with the prostitutes. More realism.
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12/17/2014 1:39:40 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 7:46:31 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/16/2014 5:48:07 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/16/2014 4:55:31 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

In the feeding of the 5000 as recorded in Matthew 14: 13-21; Mark 6: 30-44; Luke 9: 10-16; and John 6: 1-14; there was five loves and two fishes.

In the feeding of the 4000, which was a completely different event that took place in a completely different location, as recorded in Matthew 15: 32-38; and Mark 8: 1-10; there was seven fishes and a few loves.

I respond to this in order to inform the Godless atheists who haunt these religious forums, of the truths that are revealed in the scriptures.

There were seven loaves and a few fishes, typo error in previous post now rectified.

Nah, I liked it better with the prostitutes. More realism.

Here it is again. Nothing constructive to add to the conversation, which is to be expected as he knows nothing about the scriptures. Just mouthing off as usual with his verbal dysentery.

Why don't you go home and get mummy to wipe that stuff off your chin; that stuff that's dribbling from your mouth.
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12/17/2014 2:13:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 12:38:29 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:37:35 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:35:54 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:34:50 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:29:05 AM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/16/2014 11:38:29 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:47:48 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

God had me feed over 5,000 people with absolutely no income.

Spiritual food is not counted in reality. Besides that the stuff you feed them is junk food.

You weren't there to witness the spiritual teachings or all the good food that was donated to me to cook for my friends.

Have you ever done anything for other people besides argue with them?

Do know what it the following means ?
"Don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing."

Have you ever done anything for other people besides argue with them?

If you were God would not need to ask me that question.

If you weren't such a liar, you would answer the question.

If you think I am a liar and I answer your question you will only think the answer is a lie anyway so whats the point when whatever I say is a lie in your opinion?
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12/17/2014 4:46:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 1:39:40 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/17/2014 7:46:31 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/16/2014 5:48:07 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/16/2014 4:55:31 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

In the feeding of the 5000 as recorded in Matthew 14: 13-21; Mark 6: 30-44; Luke 9: 10-16; and John 6: 1-14; there was five loves and two fishes.

In the feeding of the 4000, which was a completely different event that took place in a completely different location, as recorded in Matthew 15: 32-38; and Mark 8: 1-10; there was seven fishes and a few loves.

I respond to this in order to inform the Godless atheists who haunt these religious forums, of the truths that are revealed in the scriptures.

There were seven loaves and a few fishes, typo error in previous post now rectified.

Nah, I liked it better with the prostitutes. More realism.

Here it is again. Nothing constructive to add to the conversation, which is to be expected as he knows nothing about the scriptures. Just mouthing off as usual with his verbal dysentery.

Why don't you go home and get mummy to wipe that stuff off your chin; that stuff that's dribbling from your mouth.

Oh come on, Gentorev. It brought a fleeting smile to your face. Admit it.
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12/17/2014 5:20:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 4:46:44 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/17/2014 1:39:40 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/17/2014 7:46:31 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/16/2014 5:48:07 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/16/2014 4:55:31 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

In the feeding of the 5000 as recorded in Matthew 14: 13-21; Mark 6: 30-44; Luke 9: 10-16; and John 6: 1-14; there was five loves and two fishes.

In the feeding of the 4000, which was a completely different event that took place in a completely different location, as recorded in Matthew 15: 32-38; and Mark 8: 1-10; there was seven fishes and a few loves.

I respond to this in order to inform the Godless atheists who haunt these religious forums, of the truths that are revealed in the scriptures.

There were seven loaves and a few fishes, typo error in previous post now rectified.

Nah, I liked it better with the prostitutes. More realism.

Here it is again. Nothing constructive to add to the conversation, which is to be expected as he knows nothing about the scriptures. Just mouthing off as usual with his verbal dysentery.

Why don't you go home and get mummy to wipe that stuff off your chin; that stuff that's dribbling from your mouth.

Oh come on, Gentorev. It brought a fleeting smile to your face. Admit it.

Nah mate. witnessing verbal dysentery dribbling from the mouth of a godless atheist in its attempt to derail the topic, does not bring a smile to my face, not even fleetingly.
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12/17/2014 5:49:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 5:20:54 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/17/2014 4:46:44 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/17/2014 1:39:40 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/17/2014 7:46:31 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/16/2014 5:48:07 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/16/2014 4:55:31 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 12/14/2014 9:28:49 AM, bulproof wrote:
And how many loaves were there?

In the feeding of the 5000 as recorded in Matthew 14: 13-21; Mark 6: 30-44; Luke 9: 10-16; and John 6: 1-14; there was five loves and two fishes.

In the feeding of the 4000, which was a completely different event that took place in a completely different location, as recorded in Matthew 15: 32-38; and Mark 8: 1-10; there was seven fishes and a few loves.

I respond to this in order to inform the Godless atheists who haunt these religious forums, of the truths that are revealed in the scriptures.

There were seven loaves and a few fishes, typo error in previous post now rectified.

Nah, I liked it better with the prostitutes. More realism.

Here it is again. Nothing constructive to add to the conversation, which is to be expected as he knows nothing about the scriptures. Just mouthing off as usual with his verbal dysentery.

Why don't you go home and get mummy to wipe that stuff off your chin; that stuff that's dribbling from your mouth.

Oh come on, Gentorev. It brought a fleeting smile to your face. Admit it.

Nah mate. witnessing verbal dysentery dribbling from the mouth of a godless atheist in its attempt to derail the topic, does not bring a smile to my face, not even fleetingly.

Pity.

What does your name mean, anyway?
Genesis to Revelation?
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1/3/2015 6:36:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
For the sake of the atheists who haunt the religious forums and are ignorant to the words recorded in the scriptures which in their ignorance, they attack.

Just so that you are all aware that the feeding of 5 thousand and the feeding of 4 thousand, were two separate events, this is to be found in Matthew 16: 9; "Don't you understand yet? Don't you remember when I broke the five loaves for the five thousand men? How many baskets did you fill? And what about the seven loaves for the four thousand men? How many baskets did you fill?"
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1/3/2015 8:11:00 AM
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These types of contradictions aren't important since it's really just eye witness testimony to the divinity of Jesus in the gospels. I don't like Christians who assert no contradictions exist when it's so clearly false.

That being said, I do think it's referencing 2 different events, and if it's the same event then one witness estimating 5,000 and the other 4,000 should be no surprise.

What is a surprise is theists taking the bible as 100% accurate while not noticing that groups of people always seem to have a nice round number.
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1/17/2015 7:12:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/3/2015 8:11:00 AM, Wylted wrote:
These types of contradictions aren't important since it's really just eye witness testimony to the divinity of Jesus in the gospels. I don't like Christians who assert no contradictions exist when it's so clearly false.

That being said, I do think it's referencing 2 different events, and if it's the same event then one witness estimating 5,000 and the other 4,000 should be no surprise.

What is a surprise is theists taking the bible as 100% accurate while not noticing that groups of people always seem to have a nice round number.

Number 0ne: There is no contradiction here. Don't bother "THINKING" that it refers to different events, "BELIEVE" that the bible states, that it "WAS" two different events.,

For the sake of the atheists who haunt the religious forums and are ignorant to the words recorded in the scriptures which in their ignorance, they attack.

Just so that you are all aware that the feeding of 5 thousand and the feeding of 4 thousand, were two separate events, this is to be found in Matthew 16: 9;Where Jesus says to his disciples: "Don't you understand yet? Don't you remember when I broke the five loaves for the five thousand men? How many baskets did you fill? And what about the seven loaves for the four thousand men? How many baskets did you fill?"

As to bulproofs idiotic question: "Where did Jesus get all the baskets?" There was only 12 baskets of left overs in the feeding of the 5,000 and only 7 baskets of leftovers in the feeding of the 4,000.

But even in the number of people, the number of loaves and the number of baskets of leftovers, there is a hidden secret for the initiated.
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1/17/2015 10:07:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/3/2015 8:11:00 AM, Wylted wrote:
These types of contradictions aren't important since it's really just eye witness testimony to the divinity of Jesus in the gospels. I don't like Christians who assert no contradictions exist when it's so clearly false.

That being said, I do think it's referencing 2 different events, and if it's the same event then one witness estimating 5,000 and the other 4,000 should be no surprise.

What is a surprise is theists taking the bible as 100% accurate while not noticing that groups of people always seem to have a nice round number.

LOL. Ummmmm rounding up ?
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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1/18/2015 9:47:27 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/17/2015 7:12:46 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 1/3/2015 8:11:00 AM, Wylted wrote:
These types of contradictions aren't important since it's really just eye witness testimony to the divinity of Jesus in the gospels. I don't like Christians who assert no contradictions exist when it's so clearly false.

That being said, I do think it's referencing 2 different events, and if it's the same event then one witness estimating 5,000 and the other 4,000 should be no surprise.

What is a surprise is theists taking the bible as 100% accurate while not noticing that groups of people always seem to have a nice round number.

Number 0ne: There is no contradiction here. Don't bother "THINKING" that it refers to different events, "BELIEVE" that the bible states, that it "WAS" two different events.,

For the sake of the atheists who haunt the religious forums and are ignorant to the words recorded in the scriptures which in their ignorance, they attack.

Just so that you are all aware that the feeding of 5 thousand and the feeding of 4 thousand, were two separate events, this is to be found in Matthew 16: 9;Where Jesus says to his disciples: "Don't you understand yet? Don't you remember when I broke the five loaves for the five thousand men? How many baskets did you fill? And what about the seven loaves for the four thousand men? How many baskets did you fill?"

As to bulproofs idiotic question: "Where did Jesus get all the baskets?" There was only 12 baskets of left overs in the feeding of the 5,000 and only 7 baskets of leftovers in the feeding of the 4,000.

But even in the number of people, the number of loaves and the number of baskets of leftovers, there is a hidden secret for the initiated.

You do not meet the minimum qualification to respond to my posts, sorry.
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1/19/2015 2:22:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/3/2015 8:11:00 AM, Wylted wrote:
These types of contradictions aren't important since it's really just eye witness testimony to the divinity of Jesus in the gospels. I don't like Christians who assert no contradictions exist when it's so clearly false.

That being said, I do think it's referencing 2 different events, and if it's the same event then one witness estimating 5,000 and the other 4,000 should be no surprise.

What is a surprise is theists taking the bible as 100% accurate while not noticing that groups of people always seem to have a nice round number.

Yes. Like the "Million man March" or the 5 million attending the Popes mass in the Philippines. and the 300,000 marching against terror in France. They must be all lies!

I know, I just know it wasn't exactly a million men in the million man march. It should have been called the Nine Hundred and Seventy Eight Thousand, Seven Hundred and Forty Three Man March.

NHSETSHFTMM for short.

The Bible - busted again by atheist logic.