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jodybirdy
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12/16/2014 9:25:54 PM
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At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

Playing favorites is a human attribute. Interesting.
A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral."
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12/16/2014 9:37:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 9:25:54 PM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

Playing favorites is a human attribute. Interesting.

What do you expect from people who are made in the image of God?
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12/16/2014 9:38:08 PM
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At 12/16/2014 9:37:05 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:25:54 PM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

Playing favorites is a human attribute. Interesting.

What do you expect from people who are made in the image of God?

That's exactly what I would expect.
A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral."
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12/16/2014 9:44:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

None of God's people understand the symbolism in the stories of the old testament. God doesn't hate any of His creation or formed illusions.
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12/16/2014 9:56:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

I think you misunderstand the passage. Jacob had a relationship with God, whereas Esau was a pagan. Thus, God showed favor upon and blessed Jacob/Jacob's descendants.
As for "hate", that probably shouldn't be interpreted literally.
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12/16/2014 10:38:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 9:56:53 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

I think you misunderstand the passage. Jacob had a relationship with God, whereas Esau was a pagan. Thus, God showed favor upon and blessed Jacob/Jacob's descendants.
As for "hate", that probably shouldn't be interpreted literally.

The Humpty Dumpty defense. Love it.

Humpty Dumpty told Alice, "When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean " neither more nor less."
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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12/16/2014 10:43:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 9:56:53 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

I think you misunderstand the passage. Jacob had a relationship with God, whereas Esau was a pagan. Thus, God showed favor upon and blessed Jacob/Jacob's descendants.
It doesn't get much more petty than that.
"If we believe absurdities we shall commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
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12/16/2014 10:45:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 9:37:05 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:25:54 PM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

Playing favorites is a human attribute. Interesting.

What do you expect from people who are made in the image of God?

It's exactly what one might expect from a God made in the image of humans.
"If we believe absurdities we shall commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
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12/16/2014 10:48:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 10:43:39 PM, Beastt wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:56:53 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

I think you misunderstand the passage. Jacob had a relationship with God, whereas Esau was a pagan. Thus, God showed favor upon and blessed Jacob/Jacob's descendants.
It doesn't get much more petty than that.

Except, I believe he was talking about when they were in the womb.
Fancy already having religious beliefs, and trying to kill each other.
Fairy tales? nooooooooooooooooooooooo
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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12/16/2014 10:51:42 PM
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At 12/16/2014 10:48:47 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/16/2014 10:43:39 PM, Beastt wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:56:53 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

I think you misunderstand the passage. Jacob had a relationship with God, whereas Esau was a pagan. Thus, God showed favor upon and blessed Jacob/Jacob's descendants.
It doesn't get much more petty than that.

Except, I believe he was talking about when they were in the womb.
Fancy already having religious beliefs, and trying to kill each other.
Fairy tales? nooooooooooooooooooooooo

Maybe they were sharks. Some species of sharks dine on their siblings while in the womb.
"If we believe absurdities we shall commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
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12/16/2014 11:09:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 10:45:22 PM, Beastt wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:37:05 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:25:54 PM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

Playing favorites is a human attribute. Interesting.

What do you expect from people who are made in the image of God?

It's exactly what one might expect from a God made in the image of humans.

Humans are God.
We are mortals and also immortals in the sense of being energy which cannot be created or destroyed but we merely change form.
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12/17/2014 12:48:10 AM
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At 12/16/2014 11:09:03 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/16/2014 10:45:22 PM, Beastt wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:37:05 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:25:54 PM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

Playing favorites is a human attribute. Interesting.

What do you expect from people who are made in the image of God?

It's exactly what one might expect from a God made in the image of humans.

Humans are God.
We are mortals and also immortals in the sense of being energy which cannot be created or destroyed but we merely change form.

Man and beasts are characters in a program called Eternal Life designed by our Creator. God created invisible vibrations that are then processed into illusions to make us believe we real and give us a make-believe world to live in.
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12/17/2014 12:45:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 9:25:54 PM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

Playing favorites is a human attribute. Interesting.

God is the one that created humans.
SitaraMusica
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12/17/2014 12:47:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 9:44:05 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

None of God's people understand the symbolism in the stories of the old testament. God doesn't hate any of His creation or formed illusions.

So you are saying that God does not play favorites?
SitaraMusica
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12/17/2014 12:51:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 9:56:53 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

I think you misunderstand the passage. Jacob had a relationship with God, whereas Esau was a pagan. Thus, God showed favor upon and blessed Jacob/Jacob's descendants.
As for "hate", that probably shouldn't be interpreted literally.

You are wrong. I understand that verse just fine. It says that Jacob I have loved and Esau I have hated. Are you saying that the Bible is not to be taken literally?
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12/17/2014 2:37:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 10:38:21 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:56:53 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

I think you misunderstand the passage. Jacob had a relationship with God, whereas Esau was a pagan. Thus, God showed favor upon and blessed Jacob/Jacob's descendants.
As for "hate", that probably shouldn't be interpreted literally.

The Humpty Dumpty defense. Love it.

Humpty Dumpty told Alice, "When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean " neither more nor less."

What's wrong with that?
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12/17/2014 2:42:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 12:51:10 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:56:53 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

I think you misunderstand the passage. Jacob had a relationship with God, whereas Esau was a pagan. Thus, God showed favor upon and blessed Jacob/Jacob's descendants.
As for "hate", that probably shouldn't be interpreted literally.

You are wrong. I understand that verse just fine. It says that Jacob I have loved and Esau I have hated. Are you saying that the Bible is not to be taken literally?

That is not what I'm saying. However, people often say many things in an unliteral way. Some examples:
"I'm so hungry I could eat a horse!" (You probably couldn't eat a whole horse in one setting)
"That baby's as cute as a button!" (button's are neither cute nor a valid comparison for a baby)
"I'm going to kick your butt!" (Most likely you do not intend on literally kicking the butt of the person who you're talking to)
"I can't stand that guy!" (More likely, you dislike the person in question, but you won't die or pass out in the presence of said person)

Do you understand what I am saying?
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SitaraMusica
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12/17/2014 4:27:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 2:42:32 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:51:10 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:56:53 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

I think you misunderstand the passage. Jacob had a relationship with God, whereas Esau was a pagan. Thus, God showed favor upon and blessed Jacob/Jacob's descendants.
As for "hate", that probably shouldn't be interpreted literally.

You are wrong. I understand that verse just fine. It says that Jacob I have loved and Esau I have hated. Are you saying that the Bible is not to be taken literally?

That is not what I'm saying. However, people often say many things in an unliteral way. Some examples:
"I'm so hungry I could eat a horse!" (You probably couldn't eat a whole horse in one setting)
"That baby's as cute as a button!" (button's are neither cute nor a valid comparison for a baby)
"I'm going to kick your butt!" (Most likely you do not intend on literally kicking the butt of the person who you're talking to)
"I can't stand that guy!" (More likely, you dislike the person in question, but you won't die or pass out in the presence of said person)

Do you understand what I am saying?

Yes it is what you are saying. I showed you from the Bible where God plays favorites, and you disagreed.
SitaraMusica
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12/17/2014 4:35:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 2:42:32 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:51:10 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:56:53 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

I think you misunderstand the passage. Jacob had a relationship with God, whereas Esau was a pagan. Thus, God showed favor upon and blessed Jacob/Jacob's descendants.
As for "hate", that probably shouldn't be interpreted literally.

You are wrong. I understand that verse just fine. It says that Jacob I have loved and Esau I have hated. Are you saying that the Bible is not to be taken literally?

That is not what I'm saying. However, people often say many things in an unliteral way. Some examples:
"I'm so hungry I could eat a horse!" (You probably couldn't eat a whole horse in one setting)
"That baby's as cute as a button!" (button's are neither cute nor a valid comparison for a baby)
"I'm going to kick your butt!" (Most likely you do not intend on literally kicking the butt of the person who you're talking to)
"I can't stand that guy!" (More likely, you dislike the person in question, but you won't die or pass out in the presence of said person)

Do you understand what I am saying?
When you said: :
"As for "hate", that probably shouldn't be interpreted literally."
, you were saying that the Bible should not be taken literally.
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12/17/2014 4:36:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

Oh booo hooo

God loves my brother and not me.

A bunch of cry babies up in here.
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12/17/2014 4:41:29 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 4:36:33 PM, seeu46 wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

Oh booo hooo

God loves my brother and not me.

A bunch of cry babies up in here.

How very Christian of you to mock the Bible. What a good Christian you are. ;)
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12/17/2014 4:52:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 4:41:29 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/17/2014 4:36:33 PM, seeu46 wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

Oh booo hooo

God loves my brother and not me.

A bunch of cry babies up in here.

How very Christian of you to mock the Bible. What a good Christian you are. ;)

Where did I mock the Bible? Liar what a naughty Christian you are ;)
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12/17/2014 4:58:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 12:47:42 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:44:05 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

None of God's people understand the symbolism in the stories of the old testament. God doesn't hate any of His creation or formed illusions.

So you are saying that God does not play favorites?

Everything God planned, created and formed is His so why would He play favorites? He used the name Jacob who's name was changed to Israel as a symbolic meaning that only us saints would understand once we are taught who we are in God. Jacob means the invisible Kingdom of God in the prophecies of Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc. Israel means the visible flesh of His beasts and people. So by having Abraham's son named Jacob before being renamed by God as Israel, it shows that Jacob ( invisible Kingdom of God ) was God's creation and Israel ( visible flesh ) is the formed illusions that will perish during this age.
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12/17/2014 5:13:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 4:52:54 PM, seeu46 wrote:
At 12/17/2014 4:41:29 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/17/2014 4:36:33 PM, seeu46 wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

Oh booo hooo

God loves my brother and not me.

A bunch of cry babies up in here.

How very Christian of you to mock the Bible. What a good Christian you are. ;)

Where did I mock the Bible? Liar what a naughty Christian you are ;)

You mocked the Bible verse in the description of this debate. You are also very disrespectful. People have the right to question things.
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12/17/2014 5:20:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 4:58:24 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:47:42 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:44:05 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

None of God's people understand the symbolism in the stories of the old testament. God doesn't hate any of His creation or formed illusions.

So you are saying that God does not play favorites?

Everything God planned, created and formed is His so why would He play favorites? He used the name Jacob who's name was changed to Israel as a symbolic meaning that only us saints would understand once we are taught who we are in God. Jacob means the invisible Kingdom of God in the prophecies of Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc. Israel means the visible flesh of His beasts and people. So by having Abraham's son named Jacob before being renamed by God as Israel, it shows that Jacob ( invisible Kingdom of God ) was God's creation and Israel ( visible flesh ) is the formed illusions that will perish during this age.

It is a fact that God plays favorites. Some people have much better lives than others. This is proof that God plays favorites.
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12/17/2014 5:29:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 5:13:02 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/17/2014 4:52:54 PM, seeu46 wrote:
At 12/17/2014 4:41:29 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/17/2014 4:36:33 PM, seeu46 wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

Oh booo hooo

God loves my brother and not me.

A bunch of cry babies up in here.

How very Christian of you to mock the Bible. What a good Christian you are. ;)

Where did I mock the Bible? Liar what a naughty Christian you are ;)

You mocked the Bible verse in the description of this debate. You are also very disrespectful. People have the right to question things.

Nope did not mock the Bible. Your still a liar ;)
In fact I agree with it. I guess boo hoo or cry baby is rather salty of me. So for that I will apologize.

But the truth of it is, no one can have anything in this life if it is not given from God.
I believe this, what do you believe?
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12/17/2014 6:41:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 5:20:47 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/17/2014 4:58:24 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:47:42 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:44:05 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

None of God's people understand the symbolism in the stories of the old testament. God doesn't hate any of His creation or formed illusions.

So you are saying that God does not play favorites?

Everything God planned, created and formed is His so why would He play favorites? He used the name Jacob who's name was changed to Israel as a symbolic meaning that only us saints would understand once we are taught who we are in God. Jacob means the invisible Kingdom of God in the prophecies of Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc. Israel means the visible flesh of His beasts and people. So by having Abraham's son named Jacob before being renamed by God as Israel, it shows that Jacob ( invisible Kingdom of God ) was God's creation and Israel ( visible flesh ) is the formed illusions that will perish during this age.

It is a fact that God plays favorites. Some people have much better lives than others. This is proof that God plays favorites.

Who has a better life than others? I have met very wealthy people who have all kinds of worries and fears that very poor people don't have.
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12/17/2014 7:11:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 6:41:34 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/17/2014 5:20:47 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/17/2014 4:58:24 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:47:42 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:44:05 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

None of God's people understand the symbolism in the stories of the old testament. God doesn't hate any of His creation or formed illusions.

So you are saying that God does not play favorites?

Everything God planned, created and formed is His so why would He play favorites? He used the name Jacob who's name was changed to Israel as a symbolic meaning that only us saints would understand once we are taught who we are in God. Jacob means the invisible Kingdom of God in the prophecies of Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc. Israel means the visible flesh of His beasts and people. So by having Abraham's son named Jacob before being renamed by God as Israel, it shows that Jacob ( invisible Kingdom of God ) was God's creation and Israel ( visible flesh ) is the formed illusions that will perish during this age.

It is a fact that God plays favorites. Some people have much better lives than others. This is proof that God plays favorites.

Who has a better life than others? I have met very wealthy people who have all kinds of worries and fears that very poor people don't have.
Some people go through life without mental illness while others are violated by mental illness every day.
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12/17/2014 7:21:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/17/2014 7:11:39 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/17/2014 6:41:34 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/17/2014 5:20:47 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/17/2014 4:58:24 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/17/2014 12:47:42 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
At 12/16/2014 9:44:05 PM, bornofgod wrote:
At 12/16/2014 8:54:31 PM, SitaraMusica wrote:
Jacob I have loved, and Esau I have hated.

None of God's people understand the symbolism in the stories of the old testament. God doesn't hate any of His creation or formed illusions.

So you are saying that God does not play favorites?

Everything God planned, created and formed is His so why would He play favorites? He used the name Jacob who's name was changed to Israel as a symbolic meaning that only us saints would understand once we are taught who we are in God. Jacob means the invisible Kingdom of God in the prophecies of Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc. Israel means the visible flesh of His beasts and people. So by having Abraham's son named Jacob before being renamed by God as Israel, it shows that Jacob ( invisible Kingdom of God ) was God's creation and Israel ( visible flesh ) is the formed illusions that will perish during this age.

It is a fact that God plays favorites. Some people have much better lives than others. This is proof that God plays favorites.

Who has a better life than others? I have met very wealthy people who have all kinds of worries and fears that very poor people don't have.
Some people go through life without mental illness while others are violated by mental illness every day.

God could care less how we feel about our situation since He's the Creator of everything.

Do you know what it's like to be one of God's chosen saints who has to go through terrible experiences to humble us enough to be used by Him to testify to His knowledge?

Did you know that God made all of us saints homeless by taking away our families, friends, material wealth and everything else?

Here's what God says about us saints that He uses for His purpose to testify to His Word ( knowledge of the past, present and future );

Ephesians 1
1: Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints who are also faithful in Christ Jesus:
2: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
3: Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
4: even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him.
5: He destined us in love to be his sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,
9: For he has made known to us in all wisdom and insight the mystery of his will, according to his purpose which he set forth

Psalm 16
3: As for the saints in the land, they are the noble, in whom is all my delight.

Psalm 116
16. Precious in the sight of thy Lord is the death of his saints.

Revelation 6
9: When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne;
10: they cried out with a loud voice, "O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before thou wilt judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell upon the earth?"
11: Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.

If God favored us saints, He wouldn't have us killed like all the other people He kills during this age.