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12/19/2014 8:41:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

It would probably be much more complicated than that, but sure, I could believe something like that.
Thinking is extremely taxing on the gullible, and it takes hours to clear the smoke.
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12/19/2014 8:43:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

The Flying Spaghetti Monster shall devour them all!!
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12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.
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12/19/2014 9:10:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

You forgot about God.
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12/19/2014 9:19:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:10:31 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

You forgot about God.

No I didn't. Has God told you whether or not other universes exist? And if they did wouldn't they all together just form one greater universe?
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12/19/2014 9:22:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

The state of the science today is that the multiverse theory is looking more and more plausible because it would answerer a lot of questions about what we are seeing going on in our own universe.
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12/19/2014 9:24:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:19:55 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:10:31 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

You forgot about God.

No I didn't. Has God told you whether or not other universes exist? And if they did wouldn't they all together just form one greater universe?

God can't tell me anything if he doesn't exist.
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12/19/2014 9:24:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:22:36 PM, Accipiter wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

The state of the science today is that the multiverse theory is looking more and more plausible because it would answerer a lot of questions about what we are seeing going on in our own universe.

The existence of God would answer pretty much ALL the questions pertaining to our universe. Does that make his existence more plausible?
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12/19/2014 9:26:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:24:16 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:19:55 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:10:31 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

You forgot about God.

No I didn't. Has God told you whether or not other universes exist? And if they did wouldn't they all together just form one greater universe?

God can't tell me anything if he doesn't exist.

This is becoming circular. What did you mean by saying "you forgot about God"?
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12/19/2014 9:29:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:26:09 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:24:16 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:19:55 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:10:31 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

You forgot about God.

No I didn't. Has God told you whether or not other universes exist? And if they did wouldn't they all together just form one greater universe?

God can't tell me anything if he doesn't exist.

This is becoming circular. What did you mean by saying "you forgot about God"?

God is as uncertain as other universes.
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12/19/2014 9:30:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:26:09 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:24:16 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:19:55 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:10:31 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

You forgot about God.

No I didn't. Has God told you whether or not other universes exist? And if they did wouldn't they all together just form one greater universe?

God can't tell me anything if he doesn't exist.

This is becoming circular. What did you mean by saying "you forgot about God"?

The OP presupposed two things which we cannot know, you attacked one and not the other.
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12/19/2014 9:35:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

Of course. There are other Gods for this one. But, for each race, for each reigning species, for each manifestation of sentient life, there is a God who created it, who nurtured it, who made it exist within the realm in which it exists.

Except those for Gods, those manifest all by themselves. By, er, genesis. From like, everything. Whatever's around it. You know, like, uh... ambiogenesis. Everything came together and created the gods.

But, like... how would they know they're like, the final result? How would they know they, themselves, don't have gods?

Would they, in their ultimate superiority over everything around them, acknowledge their responsibility as gods, and instead of inventing further gods, take charge and reign over their realm?

Questions, questions.
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12/19/2014 9:35:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:29:50 PM, Such wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:26:09 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:24:16 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:19:55 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:10:31 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

You forgot about God.

No I didn't. Has God told you whether or not other universes exist? And if they did wouldn't they all together just form one greater universe?

God can't tell me anything if he doesn't exist.

This is becoming circular. What did you mean by saying "you forgot about God"?

God is as uncertain as other universes.

Okay, that makes sense, but doesn't that make it twice as unanswerable since there are two major unknown factors?
Such
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12/19/2014 9:37:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:35:42 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:29:50 PM, Such wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:26:09 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:24:16 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:19:55 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:10:31 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

You forgot about God.

No I didn't. Has God told you whether or not other universes exist? And if they did wouldn't they all together just form one greater universe?

God can't tell me anything if he doesn't exist.

This is becoming circular. What did you mean by saying "you forgot about God"?

God is as uncertain as other universes.

Okay, that makes sense, but doesn't that make it twice as unanswerable since there are two major unknown factors?

Yes. Yes, it does.

Is it likely that there's a God? Perhaps. Is it unlike that there's multiverses? Perhaps. Is it likely that there's both multiverses and a God? No.

Kind of pits them against one another, doesn't it?
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12/19/2014 9:37:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:30:00 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:26:09 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:24:16 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:19:55 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:10:31 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

You forgot about God.

No I didn't. Has God told you whether or not other universes exist? And if they did wouldn't they all together just form one greater universe?

God can't tell me anything if he doesn't exist.

This is becoming circular. What did you mean by saying "you forgot about God"?

The OP presupposed two things which we cannot know, you attacked one and not the other.

Gotcha. But as I said to Such, doesn't this simple make it doubly unanswerable?
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12/19/2014 9:43:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:37:35 PM, Such wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:35:42 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:29:50 PM, Such wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:26:09 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:24:16 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:19:55 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:10:31 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

You forgot about God.

No I didn't. Has God told you whether or not other universes exist? And if they did wouldn't they all together just form one greater universe?

God can't tell me anything if he doesn't exist.

This is becoming circular. What did you mean by saying "you forgot about God"?

God is as uncertain as other universes.

Okay, that makes sense, but doesn't that make it twice as unanswerable since there are two major unknown factors?

Yes. Yes, it does.

Is it likely that there's a God? Perhaps. Is it unlike that there's multiverses? Perhaps. Is it likely that there's both multiverses and a God? No.

Kind of pits them against one another, doesn't it?

I guess you could say that, but does it really? Would a God be confined to creating only one universe? One thing I always think a lot about that Einstein said when trying to simply the definition of relativity. Everything is relative to everything else in all respects. Depending on your size and entire universe can be either tiny or huge. If you are big enough then a thousand universes would be like a teaspoon of rice. Right now we don't even know how big our universe is, which is why we refer to it as the "observable universe." It could go-on for a million times further than we've seen, or even more. I really believe that there is so much we don't know that it's impossible to judge how much we do know.
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12/19/2014 9:48:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:43:50 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:37:35 PM, Such wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:35:42 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:29:50 PM, Such wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:26:09 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:24:16 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:19:55 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:10:31 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

You forgot about God.

No I didn't. Has God told you whether or not other universes exist? And if they did wouldn't they all together just form one greater universe?

God can't tell me anything if he doesn't exist.

This is becoming circular. What did you mean by saying "you forgot about God"?

God is as uncertain as other universes.

Okay, that makes sense, but doesn't that make it twice as unanswerable since there are two major unknown factors?

Yes. Yes, it does.

Is it likely that there's a God? Perhaps. Is it unlike that there's multiverses? Perhaps. Is it likely that there's both multiverses and a God? No.

Kind of pits them against one another, doesn't it?

I guess you could say that, but does it really? Would a God be confined to creating only one universe? One thing I always think a lot about that Einstein said when trying to simply the definition of relativity. Everything is relative to everything else in all respects. Depending on your size and entire universe can be either tiny or huge. If you are big enough then a thousand universes would be like a teaspoon of rice. Right now we don't even know how big our universe is, which is why we refer to it as the "observable universe." It could go-on for a million times further than we've seen, or even more. I really believe that there is so much we don't know that it's impossible to judge how much we do know.

I agree.

But, it kind of casts doubt on our ability to determine the existence of anything greater than the universe, since we can't even comprehend the universe itself.

A creator of the universe would undoubtedly be greater than the universe itself, so how could we say with any certainty that a creator exists? Or, even, another universe?

If this is a question of morality, then we should stick to trying to be good people. If this is a question of what we're able to know, then we should just keep looking.

But, all these conclusions? Let us not fool ourselves!
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12/19/2014 9:55:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:48:33 PM, Such wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:43:50 PM, Idealist wrote:

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

You forgot about God.

No I didn't. Has God told you whether or not other universes exist? And if they did wouldn't they all together just form one greater universe?

God can't tell me anything if he doesn't exist.

This is becoming circular. What did you mean by saying "you forgot about God"?

God is as uncertain as other universes.

Okay, that makes sense, but doesn't that make it twice as unanswerable since there are two major unknown factors?

Yes. Yes, it does.

Is it likely that there's a God? Perhaps. Is it unlike that there's multiverses? Perhaps. Is it likely that there's both multiverses and a God? No.

Kind of pits them against one another, doesn't it?

I guess you could say that, but does it really? Would a God be confined to creating only one universe? One thing I always think a lot about that Einstein said when trying to simply the definition of relativity. Everything is relative to everything else in all respects. Depending on your size and entire universe can be either tiny or huge. If you are big enough then a thousand universes would be like a teaspoon of rice. Right now we don't even know how big our universe is, which is why we refer to it as the "observable universe." It could go-on for a million times further than we've seen, or even more. I really believe that there is so much we don't know that it's impossible to judge how much we do know.

I agree.

But, it kind of casts doubt on our ability to determine the existence of anything greater than the universe, since we can't even comprehend the universe itself.

Yeah, I guess it does.

A creator of the universe would undoubtedly be greater than the universe itself, so how could we say with any certainty that a creator exists? Or, even, another universe?

We can't. I don't think we can even choose what to believe if we are honest about it. All we can do is learn what we can and our beliefs will emerge from that.

If this is a question of morality, then we should stick to trying to be good people. If this is a question of what we're able to know, then we should just keep looking.

A agree with both of those assessments. We should be trying to be good people while we continue attempting to unlock our understanding of reality.

But, all these conclusions? Let us not fool ourselves!

We can always keep trying, can't we? Isn't that what "chasing our dreams" means?
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12/19/2014 9:58:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:55:58 PM, Idealist wrote:

But, all these conclusions? Let us not fool ourselves!

We can always keep trying, can't we? Isn't that what "chasing our dreams" means?

Yes. Agreed.
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12/19/2014 11:37:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:24:25 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:22:36 PM, Accipiter wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

The state of the science today is that the multiverse theory is looking more and more plausible because it would answerer a lot of questions about what we are seeing going on in our own universe.

The existence of God would answer pretty much ALL the questions pertaining to our universe. Does that make his existence more plausible?

Does your Bible tell us what matter is made of or how black holes form or what the speed of light is or if we are the only galaxy in our universe or how a star works? No need to answer I checked and it doesn"t.
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12/19/2014 11:55:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 9:24:25 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:22:36 PM, Accipiter wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

The state of the science today is that the multiverse theory is looking more and more plausible because it would answerer a lot of questions about what we are seeing going on in our own universe.

The existence of God would answer pretty much ALL the questions pertaining to our universe. Does that make his existence more plausible?

No, because then God would need an explanation. You try to avoid solving one problem by creating an even bigger one, especially when the path to the 'solution' is not evidence based.
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12/19/2014 11:56:49 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 11:37:42 PM, Accipiter wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:24:25 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:22:36 PM, Accipiter wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

The state of the science today is that the multiverse theory is looking more and more plausible because it would answerer a lot of questions about what we are seeing going on in our own universe.

The existence of God would answer pretty much ALL the questions pertaining to our universe. Does that make his existence more plausible?

Does your Bible tell us what matter is made of or how black holes form or what the speed of light is or if we are the only galaxy in our universe or how a star works? No need to answer I checked and it doesn"t.

I'm not religious, and I don't know a lot about the Bible. I guess you'd have to ask somebody like Anna or MCB about that. You know what they call it when you jump to conclusions about people which cause you to build an image to attack instead of addressing the topic at hand, don't you? It's called a straw-man fallacy.
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12/20/2014 12:00:20 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 11:55:38 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:24:25 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:22:36 PM, Accipiter wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

The state of the science today is that the multiverse theory is looking more and more plausible because it would answerer a lot of questions about what we are seeing going on in our own universe.

The existence of God would answer pretty much ALL the questions pertaining to our universe. Does that make his existence more plausible?

No, because then God would need an explanation. You try to avoid solving one problem by creating an even bigger one, especially when the path to the 'solution' is not evidence based.

I said it would answer the questions about this universe, not about God or anything else originating outside of it. Again you aren't comprehending what you read, or else you are just skimming the words too fast and missing some important ones.
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12/20/2014 12:36:08 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/20/2014 12:00:20 AM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 11:55:38 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:24:25 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:22:36 PM, Accipiter wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

The state of the science today is that the multiverse theory is looking more and more plausible because it would answerer a lot of questions about what we are seeing going on in our own universe.

The existence of God would answer pretty much ALL the questions pertaining to our universe. Does that make his existence more plausible?

No, because then God would need an explanation. You try to avoid solving one problem by creating an even bigger one, especially when the path to the 'solution' is not evidence based.

I said it would answer the questions about this universe, not about God or anything else originating outside of it. Again you aren't comprehending what you read, or else you are just skimming the words too fast and missing some important ones.

And I said it was not more plausible for the reasons I gave. How is your reading comprehension going?
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12/20/2014 12:43:36 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/20/2014 12:36:08 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/20/2014 12:00:20 AM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 11:55:38 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:24:25 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:22:36 PM, Accipiter wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

The state of the science today is that the multiverse theory is looking more and more plausible because it would answerer a lot of questions about what we are seeing going on in our own universe.

The existence of God would answer pretty much ALL the questions pertaining to our universe. Does that make his existence more plausible?

No, because then God would need an explanation. You try to avoid solving one problem by creating an even bigger one, especially when the path to the 'solution' is not evidence based.

I said it would answer the questions about this universe, not about God or anything else originating outside of it. Again you aren't comprehending what you read, or else you are just skimming the words too fast and missing some important ones.

And I said it was not more plausible for the reasons I gave. How is your reading comprehension going?

You are really getting lost here, dude. You said it was more plausible because "it would answer a lot of questions." I said that using that logic, the idea of a God would answer even more questions, so does that make it more plausible? If answering questions about how our universe could have originated and continues to work is the litmus test for how successful a theory is then an all-powerful being would be right up there at the top of the list. You said it failed because God himself required an explanation, but then I pointed-out that he wouldn't exist inside the universe, which would mean an explanation of him wouldn't be necessary.
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12/20/2014 1:02:35 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/20/2014 12:36:08 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/20/2014 12:00:20 AM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 11:55:38 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:24:25 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:22:36 PM, Accipiter wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

The state of the science today is that the multiverse theory is looking more and more plausible because it would answerer a lot of questions about what we are seeing going on in our own universe.

The existence of God would answer pretty much ALL the questions pertaining to our universe. Does that make his existence more plausible?

No, because then God would need an explanation. You try to avoid solving one problem by creating an even bigger one, especially when the path to the 'solution' is not evidence based.

I said it would answer the questions about this universe, not about God or anything else originating outside of it. Again you aren't comprehending what you read, or else you are just skimming the words too fast and missing some important ones.

And I said it was not more plausible for the reasons I gave. How is your reading comprehension going?

You know, I have no idea why we're suddenly so at-odds with each other. I have nothing against you - you seem like a perfectly nice guy. But sometimes we just have to punt and still shake-hands after the game is over. Making radical claims about how science has conquered quantum mechanics and creating straw-men to distract focus isn't necessary. You're an intelligent person, and I respect that.
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12/20/2014 1:19:15 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/19/2014 11:56:49 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 11:37:42 PM, Accipiter wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:24:25 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:22:36 PM, Accipiter wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

The state of the science today is that the multiverse theory is looking more and more plausible because it would answerer a lot of questions about what we are seeing going on in our own universe.

The existence of God would answer pretty much ALL the questions pertaining to our universe. Does that make his existence more plausible?

Does your Bible tell us what matter is made of or how black holes form or what the speed of light is or if we are the only galaxy in our universe or how a star works? No need to answer I checked and it doesn"t.

I'm not religious, and I don't know a lot about the Bible. I guess you'd have to ask somebody like Anna or MCB about that. You know what they call it when you jump to conclusions about people which cause you to build an image to attack instead of addressing the topic at hand, don't you? It's called a straw-man fallacy.

You did pose your statement from the religious position.
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12/20/2014 1:30:03 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/20/2014 12:43:36 AM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/20/2014 12:36:08 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/20/2014 12:00:20 AM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 11:55:38 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:24:25 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:22:36 PM, Accipiter wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

The state of the science today is that the multiverse theory is looking more and more plausible because it would answerer a lot of questions about what we are seeing going on in our own universe.

The existence of God would answer pretty much ALL the questions pertaining to our universe. Does that make his existence more plausible?

No, because then God would need an explanation. You try to avoid solving one problem by creating an even bigger one, especially when the path to the 'solution' is not evidence based.

I said it would answer the questions about this universe, not about God or anything else originating outside of it. Again you aren't comprehending what you read, or else you are just skimming the words too fast and missing some important ones.

And I said it was not more plausible for the reasons I gave. How is your reading comprehension going?

You are really getting lost here, dude. You said it was more plausible because "it would answer a lot of questions."

No, you are lost. That wasn't me, that was Accipiter.

I said that using that logic, the idea of a God would answer even more questions, so does that make it more plausible?

And I answered why it did nothing for plausibility.

If answering questions about how our universe could have originated and continues to work is the litmus test for how successful a theory is then an all-powerful being would be right up there at the top of the list. You said it failed ...

No, I didn't. Reading comprehension, remember?

... because God himself required an explanation, but then I pointed-out that he wouldn't exist inside the universe, which would mean an explanation of him wouldn't be necessary.

What? Are you mad? Just because he is outside the universe (whatever that means) he doesn't require explanation? Good, then neither does the multi-verse. Problem solved. Lol.
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12/20/2014 1:32:27 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/20/2014 1:19:15 AM, Accipiter wrote:
At 12/19/2014 11:56:49 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 11:37:42 PM, Accipiter wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:24:25 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:22:36 PM, Accipiter wrote:
At 12/19/2014 9:06:05 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 12/19/2014 7:57:45 PM, Accipiter wrote:
Are there other Gods for each of the other universes in the multiverse?

We don't even know if there IS a multiverse, so this question is totally unanswerable.

The state of the science today is that the multiverse theory is looking more and more plausible because it would answerer a lot of questions about what we are seeing going on in our own universe.

The existence of God would answer pretty much ALL the questions pertaining to our universe. Does that make his existence more plausible?

Does your Bible tell us what matter is made of or how black holes form or what the speed of light is or if we are the only galaxy in our universe or how a star works? No need to answer I checked and it doesn"t.

I'm not religious, and I don't know a lot about the Bible. I guess you'd have to ask somebody like Anna or MCB about that. You know what they call it when you jump to conclusions about people which cause you to build an image to attack instead of addressing the topic at hand, don't you? It's called a straw-man fallacy.

You did pose your statement from the religious position.

I posed it from a noncommittal position, which is the position I try to hold. The truth is always somewhere in the middle, and if you want to find it you have to be willing to consider both sides. It comes from Aristotle's philosophy, and it works.