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The Big Bang Happened?

Beastt
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12/26/2014 11:10:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 9:48:53 PM, hayhen13 wrote:
Thought this would be interesting.

Are you not presenting some opinion on big-bang?

It's quite well evidenced, including...
- The current expansion of the universe
- The Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation
- The unification of natural forces as you calculate back through the expansion of the universe, to a point 13.7 billion years ago
- The WMAP Cold Spot
- The absence of any stars or galaxies at the outer reaches of the Hubble Ultra Deep Field photograph

There is no rational cause to believe that big bang didn't occur. But it's not a creation event as so many believe. It's a transformation event, affecting what already existed.
"If we believe absurdities we shall commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
uncung
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12/26/2014 11:42:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 9:48:53 PM, hayhen13 wrote:
Thought this would be interesting.

it was initiated or created by Allah. Only by using His Word.

(Allah,) The Originator of the heavens and the earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, "Be," and it is. (Quran, 2:117)

"Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together, then We clove them asunder and We got every living thing out of the water. Will they not then believe?" (Q, 21:30)
uncung
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12/26/2014 11:45:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
"And it is We Who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it. "(Qur'an, 51:47)
MEK
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12/27/2014 12:06:42 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Okay, so what exactly are you positing? Do you NOT believe the "big bang"occurred?
Allah, the Abrahamic god, Mithras, Osiris, any ancient character will do - are any of these better or worse as a prime mover of the big bang? Does a supernatural entity need to be entertained for the universe to exist? If so, why? What about a universe existing from "Nothing" as Lawrence Krauss states? Maybe our idea of "nothing" is not the same as the mathematical or physical idea of "nothing".
jodybirdy
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12/27/2014 2:31:37 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 9:48:53 PM, hayhen13 wrote:
Thought this would be interesting.

In all probability it happened and here we are. So what's your argument?
A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral."
DanneJeRusse
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12/28/2014 9:40:08 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/26/2014 11:42:45 PM, uncung wrote:
At 12/26/2014 9:48:53 PM, hayhen13 wrote:
Thought this would be interesting.

Yes, but probably not in the Religion forum considering all you'll probably ever get are the various ancient creation myths, like this one...

it was initiated or created by Allah. Only by using His Word.

(Allah,) The Originator of the heavens and the earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, "Be," and it is. (Quran, 2:117)

"Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together, then We clove them asunder and We got every living thing out of the water. Will they not then believe?" (Q, 21:30)
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
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