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6/9/2010 1:47:58 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
nope.

unless you mean religion in the since of how the pharisees had religion.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

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6/9/2010 1:52:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 1:50:07 PM, innomen wrote:
Honestly i don't think i "hate" anything.

is there anything you wish didn't exist?
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6/9/2010 1:54:07 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 1:52:00 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:50:07 PM, innomen wrote:
Honestly i don't think i "hate" anything.

is there anything you wish didn't exist?

nope.
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6/9/2010 1:55:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I see no reason to hate religion. It is possible to oppose it without hating it.
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6/9/2010 1:56:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 1:54:07 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:52:00 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:50:07 PM, innomen wrote:
Honestly i don't think i "hate" anything.

is there anything you wish didn't exist?

nope.

you don't get where i'm coming from because you're still religious. cancer surely. everyone hates cancer.
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innomen
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6/9/2010 1:57:04 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 1:56:18 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:54:07 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:52:00 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:50:07 PM, innomen wrote:
Honestly i don't think i "hate" anything.

is there anything you wish didn't exist?

nope.

you don't get where i'm coming from because you're still religious. cancer surely. everyone hates cancer.

So you wish to eliminate death?
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6/9/2010 1:59:13 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 1:57:04 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:56:18 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:54:07 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:52:00 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:50:07 PM, innomen wrote:
Honestly i don't think i "hate" anything.

is there anything you wish didn't exist?

nope.

you don't get where i'm coming from because you're still religious. cancer surely. everyone hates cancer.

So you wish to eliminate death?

would be sweet. and aging. like elves.
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6/9/2010 2:00:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 1:59:13 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:57:04 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:56:18 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:54:07 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:52:00 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:50:07 PM, innomen wrote:
Honestly i don't think i "hate" anything.

is there anything you wish didn't exist?

nope.

you don't get where i'm coming from because you're still religious. cancer surely. everyone hates cancer.

So you wish to eliminate death?

would be sweet. and aging. like elves.

Yeah, i don't have a whole lot of interest in living forever.
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6/9/2010 2:04:19 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 2:00:40 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:59:13 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:57:04 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:56:18 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:54:07 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:52:00 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:50:07 PM, innomen wrote:
Honestly i don't think i "hate" anything.

is there anything you wish didn't exist?

nope.

you don't get where i'm coming from because you're still religious. cancer surely. everyone hates cancer.

So you wish to eliminate death?

would be sweet. and aging. like elves.

Yeah, i don't have a whole lot of interest in living forever.

what's with the god stuff so?
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6/9/2010 2:04:32 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I don't hate religion in the proper sense. I don't "hate" cancer, AIDS, or other diseases neither. The carriers of diseases who want to infect others, on the other hand... :)
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6/9/2010 2:05:33 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 1:52:00 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:50:07 PM, innomen wrote:
Honestly i don't think i "hate" anything.

is there anything you wish didn't exist?

Twilight.
Marauder
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6/9/2010 2:10:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 2:05:33 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:52:00 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:50:07 PM, innomen wrote:
Honestly i don't think i "hate" anything.

is there anything you wish didn't exist?

Twilight.

ROFL 10/10
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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6/9/2010 2:15:54 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 2:04:19 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:00:40 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:59:13 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:57:04 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:56:18 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:54:07 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:52:00 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:50:07 PM, innomen wrote:
Honestly i don't think i "hate" anything.

is there anything you wish didn't exist?

nope.

you don't get where i'm coming from because you're still religious. cancer surely. everyone hates cancer.

So you wish to eliminate death?

would be sweet. and aging. like elves.

Yeah, i don't have a whole lot of interest in living forever.

what's with the god stuff so?

Huh?
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6/9/2010 2:18:36 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 2:15:54 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:04:19 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:00:40 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:59:13 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:57:04 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:56:18 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:54:07 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:52:00 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:50:07 PM, innomen wrote:
Honestly i don't think i "hate" anything.

is there anything you wish didn't exist?

nope.

you don't get where i'm coming from because you're still religious. cancer surely. everyone hates cancer.

So you wish to eliminate death?

would be sweet. and aging. like elves.

Yeah, i don't have a whole lot of interest in living forever.

what's with the god stuff so?

Huh?

is it not because you want to live forever that you believe?
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innomen
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6/9/2010 2:27:02 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 2:18:36 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:15:54 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:04:19 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:00:40 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:59:13 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:57:04 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:56:18 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:54:07 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:52:00 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:50:07 PM, innomen wrote:
Honestly i don't think i "hate" anything.

is there anything you wish didn't exist?

nope.

you don't get where i'm coming from because you're still religious. cancer surely. everyone hates cancer.

So you wish to eliminate death?

would be sweet. and aging. like elves.

Yeah, i don't have a whole lot of interest in living forever.

what's with the god stuff so?

Huh?

is it not because you want to live forever that you believe?

God no. That would be fairly immature.
badger
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6/9/2010 2:29:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 2:27:02 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:18:36 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:15:54 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:04:19 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:00:40 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:59:13 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:57:04 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:56:18 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:54:07 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:52:00 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:50:07 PM, innomen wrote:
Honestly i don't think i "hate" anything.

is there anything you wish didn't exist?

nope.

you don't get where i'm coming from because you're still religious. cancer surely. everyone hates cancer.

So you wish to eliminate death?

would be sweet. and aging. like elves.

Yeah, i don't have a whole lot of interest in living forever.

what's with the god stuff so?

Huh?

is it not because you want to live forever that you believe?

God no. That would be fairly immature.

why immature? what's wrong with life? i thought there was nothing you wish didn't exist?
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Marauder
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6/9/2010 2:31:02 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 2:18:36 PM, badger wrote:

is it not because you want to live forever that you believe?

what do you mean by 'live forever'? we will die carnally at some point and for most we take that as 'not living forever'. Jehovah Witness's view the idea of still existing if not carnally as 'still living' and do so to justify their annihilation teachings about hell.

If you mean like the Jehovah Witness's do about living forever than I would say we don't believe out of want to live forever but out of the incomprehensible of otherwise. there is no reason to believe in oblivion after death and its a rather extreme thought to grasp, thus continued existence of some sort is more likely.

If you meant the first one, no we do not believe we will live forever, perhaps live for a second time in the Resurrection, but we will still move on at some point from this carnal life into the state of grace called glorification. http://www.shol.com...
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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6/9/2010 2:31:33 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 2:29:37 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:27:02 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:18:36 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:15:54 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:04:19 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:00:40 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:59:13 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:57:04 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:56:18 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:54:07 PM, innomen wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:52:00 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 1:50:07 PM, innomen wrote:
Honestly i don't think i "hate" anything.

is there anything you wish didn't exist?

nope.

you don't get where i'm coming from because you're still religious. cancer surely. everyone hates cancer.

So you wish to eliminate death?

would be sweet. and aging. like elves.

Yeah, i don't have a whole lot of interest in living forever.

what's with the god stuff so?

Huh?

is it not because you want to live forever that you believe?

God no. That would be fairly immature.

why immature? what's wrong with life? i thought there was nothing you wish didn't exist?

why do you believe so? i reckon my ex girlfriend metaphor works fairly well. i'd say you've just been with your girlfriend too long and refuse to believe that she's cheating on you. lol
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6/9/2010 2:33:14 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 2:29:37 PM, badger wrote:


God no. That would be fairly immature.

why immature? what's wrong with life? i thought there was nothing you wish didn't exist?

Because i am afraid of dying i believe in God? That's sort of silly, and yes immature. How am in conflict with not wishing there was something i wanted to not exist?
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6/9/2010 2:34:38 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 2:31:02 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:18:36 PM, badger wrote:

is it not because you want to live forever that you believe?

what do you mean by 'live forever'? we will die carnally at some point and for most we take that as 'not living forever'. Jehovah Witness's view the idea of still existing if not carnally as 'still living' and do so to justify their annihilation teachings about hell.

If you mean like the Jehovah Witness's do about living forever than I would say we don't believe out of want to live forever but out of the incomprehensible of otherwise. there is no reason to believe in oblivion after death and its a rather extreme thought to grasp, thus continued existence of some sort is more likely.

If you meant the first one, no we do not believe we will live forever, perhaps live for a second time in the Resurrection, but we will still move on at some point from this carnal life into the state of grace called glorification. http://www.shol.com...

what are you talking about?
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6/9/2010 2:41:16 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 2:34:38 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:31:02 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:18:36 PM, badger wrote:

is it not because you want to live forever that you believe?

what do you mean by 'live forever'? we will die carnally at some point and for most we take that as 'not living forever'. Jehovah Witness's view the idea of still existing if not carnally as 'still living' and do so to justify their annihilation teachings about hell.

If you mean like the Jehovah Witness's do about living forever than I would say we don't believe out of want to live forever but out of the incomprehensible of otherwise. there is no reason to believe in oblivion after death and its a rather extreme thought to grasp, thus continued existence of some sort is more likely.

If you meant the first one, no we do not believe we will live forever, perhaps live for a second time in the Resurrection, but we will still move on at some point from this carnal life into the state of grace called glorification. http://www.shol.com...

what are you talking about?

I am talking about how for a JW, if your soul continues to exist the think of that as 'still living'

for most 'still living' means your body, still functioning.

So I ask what do you mean by 'living' forever.
If you mean the common definition of 'living' then I don't understand why you accuse Christians of believing they will live forever. We believe nothing of the sort.

If you mean the JW definition of 'living' though, then that is a different matter.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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6/9/2010 2:44:14 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 2:41:16 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:34:38 PM, badger wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:31:02 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 6/9/2010 2:18:36 PM, badger wrote:

is it not because you want to live forever that you believe?

what do you mean by 'live forever'? we will die carnally at some point and for most we take that as 'not living forever'. Jehovah Witness's view the idea of still existing if not carnally as 'still living' and do so to justify their annihilation teachings about hell.

If you mean like the Jehovah Witness's do about living forever than I would say we don't believe out of want to live forever but out of the incomprehensible of otherwise. there is no reason to believe in oblivion after death and its a rather extreme thought to grasp, thus continued existence of some sort is more likely.

If you meant the first one, no we do not believe we will live forever, perhaps live for a second time in the Resurrection, but we will still move on at some point from this carnal life into the state of grace called glorification. http://www.shol.com...

what are you talking about?

I am talking about how for a JW, if your soul continues to exist the think of that as 'still living'

for most 'still living' means your body, still functioning.

So I ask what do you mean by 'living' forever.
If you mean the common definition of 'living' then I don't understand why you accuse Christians of believing they will live forever. We believe nothing of the sort.

If you mean the JW definition of 'living' though, then that is a different matter.

the latter.
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6/9/2010 2:45:19 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 2:44:14 PM, badger wrote:
the latter.

Don't tell me, show me.
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6/9/2010 2:49:16 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/9/2010 2:44:14 PM, badger wrote:

the latter.

then the very concept of 'not living forever' would be 'oblivion' once taken by death. such a notion is quite impossible to believe, the universe is known to waist nothing.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.