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lastrequest691
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6/11/2010 9:52:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
If God tells you to go to particular country but you decide to go to another country instead of that country. Will God punish you ?

I am afraid that the country God is telling me to go is wicked and I cannot change the hearts of those wicked people so I decided to go to another country.

I mean that country God told me to go has wicked people and even if I went there they will not accept Christ because they are JUST WICKED.

I hope God understands and does not punish me for going into another country instead of the country He told me to go.
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innomen
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6/12/2010 1:45:26 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
My goodness, i cannot imagine God actually speaking to me in such a way, unless it is through another person who allegedly speaks for God, or says that God speaks through them. Personally i would run away from such a situation. However, if you feel that you are not doing God's will, (qualify and clarification: deep in your heart you know you are doing wrong because it will cause harm) then He's fine with that because i do that all the time and it only hurts me, which is kind of the point. God doesn't punish us, we punish ourselves.
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6/12/2010 3:15:14 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/11/2010 9:52:22 PM, lastrequest691 wrote:
If God tells you to go to particular country but you decide to go to another country instead of that country. Will God punish you ?

I am afraid that the country God is telling me to go is wicked and I cannot change the hearts of those wicked people so I decided to go to another country.

I mean that country God told me to go has wicked people and even if I went there they will not accept Christ because they are JUST WICKED.


I hope God understands and does not punish me for going into another country instead of the country He told me to go.

YOU cannot change ANYONES heart but God, Jesus Christ, can change ANYONES heart!

IF God has told you to go somewhere you go, no questions asked, it means He means to use you.

Read the story of Jonah.
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6/12/2010 3:20:24 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/12/2010 3:16:54 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Oh wait, I think I already know it's a troll...

Your originality is truly stupifying.
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InsertNameHere
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6/12/2010 3:21:47 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/12/2010 3:20:24 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 6/12/2010 3:16:54 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Oh wait, I think I already know it's a troll...

Your originality is truly stupifying.

I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to the OP.
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6/12/2010 3:25:21 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/12/2010 3:21:47 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 6/12/2010 3:20:24 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 6/12/2010 3:16:54 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Oh wait, I think I already know it's a troll...

Your originality is truly stupifying.

I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to the OP.

I was defending DDO, not myself.
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Marauder
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6/12/2010 7:01:27 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
afraid disciplen from god may be indicated if you do not follow in the sense your talking about. I forget if its in Eziekiel or Isiah but one of those to books God tells them how a prophet is held more accountable than the nation he preaches to. If his prophet goes and warns a people and they ignore the message and perish than it is counted as thier fault and they are held accountable. but if they perrish because a prophet does not warn them, then they are not held accountable and the prophet is.

but have peace though, for 'held accountable' in your case will not mean hell, for your failures in respect to gods will have been redeemed. whatever discipline is going to mean for you, it cannot mean separation from God, if you truly have disregarded his will youll face the consequences in his presence.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

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6/12/2010 7:25:17 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
unless of course the reasons/purpose you think god wants you to go to that country is not related to preaching a word at all then what I said doest apply in this case. gods will dosnt always have to do with witnessing.

my mom has had a history of getting a 'feeling' for when something bad has happened and learned through experince to stop the car and wait for the ambulance to go by that she knew was going to pass before even hearing the sireins. then she follows it because she was in resque squad to, and helps at the scean.

but the other day she got that feeling exept seemed to think it ment she should move. but she did not because its always ment she should stay put before. then very short moments later a car wrecked into the back of her truck.
her truck was not even scratched thanks to the trailer hitch on the back, but the person who drove into it got there front bumper tore up.

the 'feeling' is just when god is using the spirit to urge her to do something. God was just lookin out for this other drivers carelessness that caused her to hit a big red truck. In mom's resque squad days god of course would place his EMT's in places where they will be needed even if there pagers are not on them. but evedintly even though sometimes god will need you to move just so someone's could be blessed without needless destruction. but thanks to free will, mom stayed put.

think carefully about whatever you 'feel' god wants you to do. 'stay put' and 'move' feel very much the same, but in some fundemental way my mom knew during that occasion ment 'move'. so they are the same feeling, you'll ultimetly know whitch its supposed to mean, dont second guess what you know it is even though usually this kind of feeling means something else for you.

in a case like that I do not think punishment is involved beyond bering the knowledge that you could have made someones week a lot easier, but its not that big a deal. you dont have to worry that world will stop spinning if you dont act on what god urges you, if it needs done that bad he will find someone else to do it.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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6/12/2010 9:47:03 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Compare it to this. God tells you to quit your job and hang yourself, instead of accepting your promotion. Go wherever you feel like. In fact, if you don't, you are letting god take your free will.
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InsertNameHere
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6/12/2010 9:53:35 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/12/2010 9:47:03 PM, Atheism wrote:
Compare it to this. God tells you to quit your job and hang yourself, instead of accepting your promotion. Go wherever you feel like. In fact, if you don't, you are letting god take your free will.

Yea, whoa. Whatever happened to God giving us free will? Do Catholics not believe in that? At least the OP doesn't seem to. Obvious troll is obvious.
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6/13/2010 1:34:39 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/11/2010 9:52:22 PM, lastrequest691 wrote:
If God tells you to go to particular country but you decide to go to another country instead of that country. Will God punish you ?

I am afraid that the country God is telling me to go is wicked and I cannot change the hearts of those wicked people so I decided to go to another country.

I mean that country God told me to go has wicked people and even if I went there they will not accept Christ because they are JUST WICKED.


I hope God understands and does not punish me for going into another country instead of the country He told me to go.

Jonah anyone?
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6/14/2010 3:03:42 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/13/2010 1:34:39 PM, Reasoning wrote:
At 6/11/2010 9:52:22 PM, lastrequest691 wrote:
If God tells you to go to particular country but you decide to go to another country instead of that country. Will God punish you ?

I am afraid that the country God is telling me to go is wicked and I cannot change the hearts of those wicked people so I decided to go to another country.

I mean that country God told me to go has wicked people and even if I went there they will not accept Christ because they are JUST WICKED.


I hope God understands and does not punish me for going into another country instead of the country He told me to go.

Jonah anyone?

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8/17/2010 10:30:39 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/11/2010 9:52:22 PM, lastrequest691 wrote:
If God tells you to go to particular country but you decide to go to another country instead of that country. Will God punish you ?

I am afraid that the country God is telling me to go is wicked and I cannot change the hearts of those wicked people so I decided to go to another country.

I mean that country God told me to go has wicked people and even if I went there they will not accept Christ because they are JUST WICKED.


I hope God understands and does not punish me for going into another country instead of the country He told me to go.

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The story of Jonah and the whale is a perfect reply to this question

Jonah Chapters 1-4
King James Version
Jonah 1:1-17

[1] Now the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the son of Amittai, saying,
[2] Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me.
[3] But Jonah rose up to flee unto Tarshish from the presence of the LORD, and went down to Joppa; and he found a ship going to Tarshish: so he paid the fare thereof, and went down into it, to go with them unto Tarshish from the presence of the LORD.
[4] But the LORD sent out a great wind into the sea, and there was a mighty tempest in the sea, so that the ship was like to be broken.
[5] Then the mariners were afraid, and cried every man unto his god, and cast forth the wares that were in the ship into the sea, to lighten it of them. But Jonah was gone down into the sides of the ship; and he lay, and was fast asleep.
[6] So the shipmaster came to him, and said unto him, What meanest thou, O sleeper? arise, call upon thy God, if so be that God will think upon us, that we perish not.
[7] And they said every one to his fellow, Come, and let us cast lots, that we may know for whose cause this evil is upon us. So they cast lots, and the lot fell upon Jonah.
[8] Then said they unto him, Tell us, we pray thee, for whose cause this evil is upon us; What is thine occupation? and whence comest thou? what is thy country? and of what people art thou?
[9] And he said unto them, I am an Hebrew; and I fear the LORD, the God of heaven, which hath made the sea and the dry land.
[10] Then were the men exceedingly afraid, and said unto him, Why hast thou done this? For the men knew that he fled from the presence of the LORD, because he had told them.
[11] Then said they unto him, What shall we do unto thee, that the sea may be calm unto us? for the sea wrought, and was tempestuous.
[12] And he said unto them, Take me up, and cast me forth into the sea; so shall the sea be calm unto you: for I know that for my sake this great tempest is upon you.
[13] Nevertheless the men rowed hard to bring it to the land; but they could not: for the sea wrought, and was tempestuous against them.
[14] Wherefore they cried unto the LORD, and said, We beseech thee, O LORD, we beseech thee, let us not perish for this man's life, and lay not upon us innocent blood: for thou, O LORD, hast done as it pleased thee.
[15] So they took up Jonah, and cast him forth into the sea: and the sea ceased from her raging.
[16] Then the men feared the LORD exceedingly, and offered a sacrifice unto the LORD, and made vows.
[17] Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

2:1-10

[1] Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish's belly,
[2] And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
[3] For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me.
[4] Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple.
[5] The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.
[6] I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.
[7] When my soul fainted within me I remembered the LORD: and my prayer came in unto thee, into thine holy temple.
[8] They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy.
[9] But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the LORD.
[10] And the LORD spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.

3:1-10

[1] And the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the second time, saying,
[2] Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee.
[3] So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.
[4] And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
[5] So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
[6] For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
[7] And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
[8] But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
[9] Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
[10] And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

4:1-11

[1] But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry.
[2] And he prayed unto the LORD, and said, I pray thee, O LORD, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil.
[3] Therefore now, O LORD, take, I beseech thee, my life from me; for it is better for me to die than to live.
[4] Then said the LORD, Doest thou well to be angry?
[5] So Jonah went out of the city, and sat on the east side of the city, and there made him a booth, and sat under it in the shadow, till he might see what would become of the city.
[6] And the LORD God prepared a gourd, and made it to come up over Jonah, that it might be a shadow over his head, to deliver him from his grief. So Jonah was exceeding glad of the gourd.
[7] But God prepared a worm when the morning rose the next day, and it smote the gourd that it withered.
[8] And it came to pass, when the sun did arise, that God prepared a vehement east wind; and the sun beat upon the head of Jonah, that he fainted, and wished in himself to die, and said, It is better for me to die than to live.
[9] And God said to Jonah, Doest thou well to be angry for the gourd? And he said, I do well to be angry