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dee-em
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1/3/2015 6:13:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
13,798,000,000 years ago: The Big Bang
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| (9,198,000,000 years pass)
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4,600,000,000 years ago: The Solar System forms
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4,540,000,000 years ago: The Earth forms
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| (1,940,000,000 years pass)
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3,600,000,000 years ago: The first simple cells on Earth
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| (1,600,000,000 years pass)
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2,000,000,000 years ago: The first complex cells on Earth
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| (1,000,000,000 years pass)
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1,000,000,000 years ago: The first multi-cellular life appears
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600,000,000 years ago: The first simple animals appear
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231,400,000 years ago: The age of the dinosaurs begins
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200,000,000 years ago: The first mammals appear
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65,000,000 years ago: The dinosaurs are wiped out after 166,000,000 years
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60,000,000 years ago: The first primates appear
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20,000,000 years ago: The first great apes (Hominidae) appear
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2,500,000 years ago: The Homo genus first appears
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200,000 years ago: Homo sapiens first appear in Africa
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70,000 years ago: Human population drops to 2,000 in global catastrophe. Near extinction.
|
50,000 years ago: Anatomically modern humans start colonising the other continents
|
20,000 years ago: Last ice age ends. Start of human agriculture.
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Circa 3,000 years ago: Yahweh makes an appearance to his "chosen people". All other human populations around the world ignored.

The above is the incontrovertible evidence the universe is giving us. The Abrahamic God now dominates human religion. The question this timeline begs is, what was God doing prior to 3,000 years ago?
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1/3/2015 8:04:48 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/3/2015 6:13:38 AM, dee-em wrote:
13,798,000,000 years ago: The Big Bang
|
| (9,198,000,000 years pass)
|
4,600,000,000 years ago: The Solar System forms
|
4,540,000,000 years ago: The Earth forms
|
| (1,940,000,000 years pass)
|
3,600,000,000 years ago: The first simple cells on Earth
|
| (1,600,000,000 years pass)
|
2,000,000,000 years ago: The first complex cells on Earth
|
| (1,000,000,000 years pass)
|
1,000,000,000 years ago: The first multi-cellular life appears
|
600,000,000 years ago: The first simple animals appear
|
231,400,000 years ago: The age of the dinosaurs begins
|
200,000,000 years ago: The first mammals appear
|
65,000,000 years ago: The dinosaurs are wiped out after 166,000,000 years
|
60,000,000 years ago: The first primates appear
|
20,000,000 years ago: The first great apes (Hominidae) appear
|
2,500,000 years ago: The Homo genus first appears
|
200,000 years ago: Homo sapiens first appear in Africa
|
70,000 years ago: Human population drops to 2,000 in global catastrophe. Near extinction.
|
50,000 years ago: Anatomically modern humans start colonising the other continents
|
20,000 years ago: Last ice age ends. Start of human agriculture.
|
Circa 3,000 years ago: Yahweh makes an appearance to his "chosen people". All other human populations around the world ignored.

The above is the incontrovertible evidence the universe is giving us. The Abrahamic God now dominates human religion. The question this timeline begs is, what was God doing prior to 3,000 years ago?

The Supreme personality of Godhead to the Logos, is "The Son of Man," who Is the spirit which is currently developing within the body of mankind the Most High in the creation.

When this period of universal activity ends and all creation is returned to the beginning in the event that we call "The Big Crunch," it is He, the supreme personality of Godhead to the universal body, who returns to the beginning.

In the beginning was the Logos and the Logos was God, in him was life and that life was the Supreme Personality of Godhead, "The Light of Man," all the knowledge, wisdom and insight that was gained from the body of mankind in which he developed and who was in the Beginning (Not some new beginning, but "THE" beginning, as the universe descends through time) And it is He who is the observer and who says: "LET THERE BE LIGHT."

He dies in the process of involution, witnessing his spiritual universal body die as it is converted back to matter once again in order to be the saviour of we in the process of evolution.

When the Logos had become flesh=mankind once again, He came unto his own, but his own received him not, but to as many as received him, to them gave he the power to become "The Sons Of God," even to them who believed on his name (WHO I AM). Which were born (Sons of God), not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the spirit of our God, which descended upon the man Jesus in the form of a dove, as the heavenly voice was heard to say, You are my beloved in whom I am please "THIS DAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU. "

Jesus; the first to be raised from the dead past of the Son of Man. 1st Peter 1: 20; Jesus had been chosen by God (The Son Of Man) before the creation of the world and was revealed in these last days for your sake. Through Him (Jesus) you believe in God, who raised him from death and gave him glory: and so your faith and hope are fixed on God.

dee-em wrote.........what was God doing prior to 3,000 years ago?

Gentorev...........After duplication the universal body in which he had evolved, he chose Abraham, who was the first to believe in his name. I will leave it at that for the time being.
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1/3/2015 8:11:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Hey rev are you saying adam was apostate?
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1/3/2015 8:15:30 AM
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At 1/3/2015 6:27:28 AM, bulproof wrote:
Learning how to tie his shoelaces?

That's one dumb god or a helluva pair of shoes!
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1/3/2015 8:19:17 AM
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At 1/3/2015 8:15:30 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/3/2015 6:27:28 AM, bulproof wrote:
Learning how to tie his shoelaces?

That's one dumb god or a helluva pair of shoes!

I'll leave that up to you dee. :)
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1/3/2015 8:21:10 AM
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At 1/3/2015 8:04:48 AM, Gentorev wrote:

Gentorev...........After duplication the universal body in which he had evolved, he chose Abraham, who was the first to believe in his name. I will leave it at that for the time being.

God was waiting 13,797,997,000 years for Abraham to be born?
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1/3/2015 9:10:50 AM
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At 1/3/2015 8:21:10 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/3/2015 8:04:48 AM, Gentorev wrote:

Gentorev...........After duplication the universal body in which he had evolved, he chose Abraham, who was the first to believe in his name. I will leave it at that for the time being.

God was waiting 13,797,997,000 years for Abraham to be born?

Were I you, I would look up "Logos" and its roots in Zoroastrianism.
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
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1/3/2015 6:04:59 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/3/2015 9:10:50 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 1/3/2015 8:21:10 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/3/2015 8:04:48 AM, Gentorev wrote:

Gentorev...........After duplication the universal body in which he had evolved, he chose Abraham, who was the first to believe in his name. I will leave it at that for the time being.

God was waiting 13,797,997,000 years for Abraham to be born?

Were I you, I would look up "Logos" and its roots in Zoroastrianism.

Why?
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1/3/2015 6:16:48 PM
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At 1/3/2015 8:21:10 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/3/2015 8:04:48 AM, Gentorev wrote:

Gentorev...........After duplication the universal body in which he had evolved, he chose Abraham, who was the first to believe in his name. I will leave it at that for the time being.

God was waiting 13,797,997,000 years for Abraham to be born?

Why was he waiting for Abraham to be born? God could have easily picked another virgin like he did with Mary.
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1/3/2015 6:22:48 PM
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At 1/3/2015 6:16:48 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/3/2015 8:21:10 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/3/2015 8:04:48 AM, Gentorev wrote:

Gentorev...........After duplication the universal body in which he had evolved, he chose Abraham, who was the first to believe in his name. I will leave it at that for the time being.

God was waiting 13,797,997,000 years for Abraham to be born?

Why was he waiting for Abraham to be born? God could have easily picked another virgin like he did with Mary.

I was just responding to what Gentorev said. See above.
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1/3/2015 6:23:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/3/2015 6:13:38 AM, dee-em wrote:
13,798,000,000 years ago: The Big Bang
|
| (9,198,000,000 years pass)
|
4,600,000,000 years ago: The Solar System forms
|
4,540,000,000 years ago: The Earth forms
|
| (1,940,000,000 years pass)
|
3,600,000,000 years ago: The first simple cells on Earth
|
| (1,600,000,000 years pass)
|
2,000,000,000 years ago: The first complex cells on Earth
|
| (1,000,000,000 years pass)
|
1,000,000,000 years ago: The first multi-cellular life appears
|
600,000,000 years ago: The first simple animals appear
|
231,400,000 years ago: The age of the dinosaurs begins
|
200,000,000 years ago: The first mammals appear
|
65,000,000 years ago: The dinosaurs are wiped out after 166,000,000 years
|
60,000,000 years ago: The first primates appear
|
20,000,000 years ago: The first great apes (Hominidae) appear
|
2,500,000 years ago: The Homo genus first appears
|
200,000 years ago: Homo sapiens first appear in Africa
|
70,000 years ago: Human population drops to 2,000 in global catastrophe. Near extinction.
|
50,000 years ago: Anatomically modern humans start colonising the other continents
|
20,000 years ago: Last ice age ends. Start of human agriculture.
|
Circa 3,000 years ago: Yahweh makes an appearance to his "chosen people". All other human populations around the world ignored.

The above is the incontrovertible evidence the universe is giving us. The Abrahamic God now dominates human religion. The question this timeline begs is, what was God doing prior to 3,000 years ago?

If God exists, is this His only universe? His only dimension?
Thinking is extremely taxing on the gullible, and it takes hours to clear the smoke.
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1/3/2015 6:36:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Top 10 answers in response to the OP:

1. God was working on the ten commandments
2. God was trying to find a way to make Genesis plausible
3. God was trying to find a solution to the PoE
4. God was deciding which race of people he would choose to favour
5. God was arguing with Jesus about a suitable mother
6. God, the Holy Ghost and Jesus had a really long card game
7. God is old and feeble and just lost track of time
8. God had a long sabbatical from the universe creation business
9. God was trimming his really long beard
10. God was busy spring cleaning heaven ready for the arrivals
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1/3/2015 6:38:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/3/2015 6:23:39 PM, Kyle_the_Heretic wrote:
At 1/3/2015 6:13:38 AM, dee-em wrote:
13,798,000,000 years ago: The Big Bang
|
| (9,198,000,000 years pass)
|
4,600,000,000 years ago: The Solar System forms
|
4,540,000,000 years ago: The Earth forms
|
| (1,940,000,000 years pass)
|
3,600,000,000 years ago: The first simple cells on Earth
|
| (1,600,000,000 years pass)
|
2,000,000,000 years ago: The first complex cells on Earth
|
| (1,000,000,000 years pass)
|
1,000,000,000 years ago: The first multi-cellular life appears
|
600,000,000 years ago: The first simple animals appear
|
231,400,000 years ago: The age of the dinosaurs begins
|
200,000,000 years ago: The first mammals appear
|
65,000,000 years ago: The dinosaurs are wiped out after 166,000,000 years
|
60,000,000 years ago: The first primates appear
|
20,000,000 years ago: The first great apes (Hominidae) appear
|
2,500,000 years ago: The Homo genus first appears
|
200,000 years ago: Homo sapiens first appear in Africa
|
70,000 years ago: Human population drops to 2,000 in global catastrophe. Near extinction.
|
50,000 years ago: Anatomically modern humans start colonising the other continents
|
20,000 years ago: Last ice age ends. Start of human agriculture.
|
Circa 3,000 years ago: Yahweh makes an appearance to his "chosen people". All other human populations around the world ignored.

The above is the incontrovertible evidence the universe is giving us. The Abrahamic God now dominates human religion. The question this timeline begs is, what was God doing prior to 3,000 years ago?

If God exists, is this His only universe? His only dimension?

11. God was doing the rounds of all his universes and just got back
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1/3/2015 6:42:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/3/2015 6:36:50 PM, dee-em wrote:
Top 10 answers in response to the OP:

1. God was working on the ten commandments
2. God was trying to find a way to make Genesis plausible
3. God was trying to find a solution to the PoE
4. God was deciding which race of people he would choose to favour
5. God was arguing with Jesus about a suitable mother
6. God, the Holy Ghost and Jesus had a really long card game
7. God is old and feeble and just lost track of time
8. God had a long sabbatical from the universe creation business
9. God was trimming his really long beard
10. God was busy spring cleaning heaven ready for the arrivals

There must be a strike in heaven if God is doing his own chores.
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1/3/2015 6:52:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/3/2015 6:42:34 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/3/2015 6:36:50 PM, dee-em wrote:
Top 10 answers in response to the OP:

1. God was working on the ten commandments
2. God was trying to find a way to make Genesis plausible
3. God was trying to find a solution to the PoE
4. God was deciding which race of people he would choose to favour
5. God was arguing with Jesus about a suitable mother
6. God, the Holy Ghost and Jesus had a really long card game
7. God is old and feeble and just lost track of time
8. God had a long sabbatical from the universe creation business
9. God was trimming his really long beard
10. God was busy spring cleaning heaven ready for the arrivals

There must be a strike in heaven if God is doing his own chores.

I forgot about the angels. Okay, he was supervising then. You know what a stickler for detail he is.
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1/3/2015 6:54:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/3/2015 6:38:51 PM, dee-em wrote:

If God exists, is this His only universe? His only dimension?

11. God was doing the rounds of all his universes and just got back

I'm sure that if an omnipotent, omniscient being exists, it's pretty good at multi-tasking. But I'm not sure how that might work in a timeless state. Don't know anyone who is. I mean, what would 14 billion years be, give or take?
Thinking is extremely taxing on the gullible, and it takes hours to clear the smoke.
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1/3/2015 6:56:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/3/2015 6:54:11 PM, Kyle_the_Heretic wrote:
At 1/3/2015 6:38:51 PM, dee-em wrote:

If God exists, is this His only universe? His only dimension?

11. God was doing the rounds of all his universes and just got back

I'm sure that if an omnipotent, omniscient being exists, it's pretty good at multi-tasking. But I'm not sure how that might work in a timeless state. Don't know anyone who is. I mean, what would 14 billion years be, give or take?

Let's not get technical now. You'll confuse the theists.
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1/3/2015 7:02:14 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/3/2015 6:36:50 PM, dee-em wrote:
Top 10 answers in response to the OP:

1. God was working on the ten commandments
2. God was trying to find a way to make Genesis plausible
3. God was trying to find a solution to the PoE
4. God was deciding which race of people he would choose to favour
5. God was arguing with Jesus about a suitable mother
6. God, the Holy Ghost and Jesus had a really long card game
7. God is old and feeble and just lost track of time
8. God had a long sabbatical from the universe creation business
9. God was trimming his really long beard
10. God was busy spring cleaning heaven ready for the arrivals

Definitely #9.
A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral."
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1/3/2015 7:06:42 PM
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At 1/3/2015 6:56:06 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/3/2015 6:54:11 PM, Kyle_the_Heretic wrote:
At 1/3/2015 6:38:51 PM, dee-em wrote:

If God exists, is this His only universe? His only dimension?

11. God was doing the rounds of all his universes and just got back

I'm sure that if an omnipotent, omniscient being exists, it's pretty good at multi-tasking. But I'm not sure how that might work in a timeless state. Don't know anyone who is. I mean, what would 14 billion years be, give or take?

Let's not get technical now. You'll confuse the theists.

Not all the theists. Still, true. My apologies.

A dear friend, who is agnostic (formerly atheist) sent me something he'd written when he became agnostic (in his attempt to show me the "errors" of my Christian beliefs) titled The Religious World History Fairy Tale in a Nut Shell, in which, among other things, he, with some humor (depending on your point of view) answers the question in the OP.

If I can think of a not too offensive way to present it, I'll post it in another topic.
Thinking is extremely taxing on the gullible, and it takes hours to clear the smoke.
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1/3/2015 7:09:00 PM
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At 1/3/2015 7:06:42 PM, Kyle_the_Heretic wrote:
At 1/3/2015 6:56:06 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/3/2015 6:54:11 PM, Kyle_the_Heretic wrote:
At 1/3/2015 6:38:51 PM, dee-em wrote:

If God exists, is this His only universe? His only dimension?

11. God was doing the rounds of all his universes and just got back

I'm sure that if an omnipotent, omniscient being exists, it's pretty good at multi-tasking. But I'm not sure how that might work in a timeless state. Don't know anyone who is. I mean, what would 14 billion years be, give or take?

Let's not get technical now. You'll confuse the theists.

Not all the theists. Still, true. My apologies.

A dear friend, who is agnostic (formerly atheist) sent me something he'd written when he became agnostic (in his attempt to show me the "errors" of my Christian beliefs) titled The Religious World History Fairy Tale in a Nut Shell, in which, among other things, he, with some humor (depending on your point of view) answers the question in the OP.

If I can think of a not too offensive way to present it, I'll post it in another topic.

Please do. :-)
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1/3/2015 7:10:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/3/2015 7:02:14 PM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 1/3/2015 6:36:50 PM, dee-em wrote:
Top 10 answers in response to the OP:

1. God was working on the ten commandments
2. God was trying to find a way to make Genesis plausible
3. God was trying to find a solution to the PoE
4. God was deciding which race of people he would choose to favour
5. God was arguing with Jesus about a suitable mother
6. God, the Holy Ghost and Jesus had a really long card game
7. God is old and feeble and just lost track of time
8. God had a long sabbatical from the universe creation business
9. God was trimming his really long beard
10. God was busy spring cleaning heaven ready for the arrivals

Definitely #9.

Yep, he was using Occam's Razor.
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1/3/2015 7:22:22 PM
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At 1/3/2015 7:10:03 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/3/2015 7:02:14 PM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 1/3/2015 6:36:50 PM, dee-em wrote:
Top 10 answers in response to the OP:

1. God was working on the ten commandments
2. God was trying to find a way to make Genesis plausible
3. God was trying to find a solution to the PoE
4. God was deciding which race of people he would choose to favour
5. God was arguing with Jesus about a suitable mother
6. God, the Holy Ghost and Jesus had a really long card game
7. God is old and feeble and just lost track of time
8. God had a long sabbatical from the universe creation business
9. God was trimming his really long beard
10. God was busy spring cleaning heaven ready for the arrivals

Definitely #9.

Yep, he was using Occam's Razor.

It's is the simplest explanation.
A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral."
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1/3/2015 11:48:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/3/2015 6:04:59 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/3/2015 9:10:50 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 1/3/2015 8:21:10 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/3/2015 8:04:48 AM, Gentorev wrote:

Gentorev...........After duplication the universal body in which he had evolved, he chose Abraham, who was the first to believe in his name. I will leave it at that for the time being.

God was waiting 13,797,997,000 years for Abraham to be born?

Were I you, I would look up "Logos" and its roots in Zoroastrianism.

Why?

Lots of good arguments regarding prehistoric cults came from that mythos.
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
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1/4/2015 5:38:17 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/3/2015 7:22:22 PM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 1/3/2015 7:10:03 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/3/2015 7:02:14 PM, jodybirdy wrote:
At 1/3/2015 6:36:50 PM, dee-em wrote:
Top 10 answers in response to the OP:

1. God was working on the ten commandments
2. God was trying to find a way to make Genesis plausible
3. God was trying to find a solution to the PoE
4. God was deciding which race of people he would choose to favour
5. God was arguing with Jesus about a suitable mother
6. God, the Holy Ghost and Jesus had a really long card game
7. God is old and feeble and just lost track of time
8. God had a long sabbatical from the universe creation business
9. God was trimming his really long beard
10. God was busy spring cleaning heaven ready for the arrivals

Definitely #9.

Yep, he was using Occam's Razor.

It's is the simplest explanation.

It is. It is. :-)
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1/4/2015 5:45:15 AM
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At 1/3/2015 11:48:05 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 1/3/2015 6:04:59 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/3/2015 9:10:50 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 1/3/2015 8:21:10 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 1/3/2015 8:04:48 AM, Gentorev wrote:

Gentorev...........After duplication the universal body in which he had evolved, he chose Abraham, who was the first to believe in his name. I will leave it at that for the time being.

God was waiting 13,797,997,000 years for Abraham to be born?

Were I you, I would look up "Logos" and its roots in Zoroastrianism.

Why?

Lots of good arguments regarding prehistoric cults came from that mythos.

I thought the Logos was a Greek concept later adopted into Jewish philosophy and then on to Christianity. Not sure how it relates to the OP though?
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1/4/2015 6:32:55 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
A fundamental characteristic of the theistic God is that he is transcendent, which is to say that he is outside of space-time.
Because of this, it is theologically misguided to think of God as just sitting there twiddling his thumbs whilst he waits for the human race to develop.

To summarise, we cannot apply temporal concepts such as past, present and future to a non-temporal (i.e transcendent) God.