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The God of Spinoza

Anacharsis
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6/14/2010 8:09:18 PM
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Albert Einstein is purported to have said when asked if he believed in God that he believed in the God of Spinoza. Does anyone here espouse such a belief? What about Spinoza's arguments lead you to this position?
GeoLaureate8
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6/14/2010 10:23:33 PM
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The God of Spinoza is just the Panentheist God (very similar to the Pantheist God). I at one point was a Pantheist, but I began questioning it and only hold to that position lightly.
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TheSkeptic
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6/14/2010 11:25:34 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/14/2010 10:23:33 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
The God of Spinoza is just the Panentheist God (very similar to the Pantheist God). I at one point was a Pantheist, but I began questioning it and only hold to that position lightly.

Good :).
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6/15/2010 2:54:38 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/14/2010 8:09:18 PM, Anacharsis wrote:
Albert Einstein is purported to have said when asked if he believed in God that he believed in the God of Spinoza. Does anyone here espouse such a belief? What about Spinoza's arguments lead you to this position?

My Christopher Hitchens impression consists entirely of me saying " SpiNOZA.. " in a slightly nasal Oxford drawl.

It's great, you should see it some time. Honest it is.
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TheSkeptic
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6/15/2010 4:29:04 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/15/2010 2:54:38 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 6/14/2010 8:09:18 PM, Anacharsis wrote:
Albert Einstein is purported to have said when asked if he believed in God that he believed in the God of Spinoza. Does anyone here espouse such a belief? What about Spinoza's arguments lead you to this position?

My Christopher Hitchens impression consists entirely of me saying " SpiNOZA.. " in a slightly nasal Oxford drawl.

It's great, you should see it some time. Honest it is.

Haha!
Cerebral_Narcissist
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6/15/2010 4:38:49 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I am too thick to understand how Spinoza's God is anything but Atheism.
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Anacharsis
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6/15/2010 7:08:32 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/15/2010 4:38:49 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
I am too thick to understand how Spinoza's God is anything but Atheism.

The most important distinction that I can see is that Spinoza attributed God with an intelligence of sorts. He listed a number of other attributes he thought must be necessary to God, but I don't see where those really distinguish God from some non-God philosophy.
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6/15/2010 11:29:28 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 6/15/2010 4:38:49 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
I am too thick to understand how Spinoza's God is anything but Atheism.

The Panentheist God is a universal, ubiquitous mind and all that exists is an extention of that.
Though, I agree that both Panentheism and Pantheism are equivalent to Atheism.
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