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Rant
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1/11/2015 3:55:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Replacement Theology was introduced to the Church shortly after Gentile leadership took over from Jewish leadership. What are its premises? (1) Israel (the Jewish people and the land) has been replaced by the Christian Church in the purposes of God, or, more precisely, the Church is the historic continuation of Israel to the exclusion of the former. (2) The Jewish people are now no longer a "chosen people." In fact, they are no different from any other group, such as the English, Spanish, or Africans. (3) Apart from repentance, the new birth, and incorporation into the Church, the Jewish people have no future, no hope, and no calling in the plan of God. The same is true for every other nation and group. (4) Since Pentecost of Acts 2, the term "Israel," as found in the Bible, now refers to the Church. (5) The promises, covenants and blessings ascribed to Israel in the Bible have been taken away from the Jews and given to the Church, which has superseded them. However, the Jews are subject to the curses found in the Bible, as a result of their rejection of Christ.
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1/11/2015 4:00:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Today there are approximately 100 million American church members who have very little to no understanding of Bible prophecy. These church members are from replacement theology churches that don"t teach Bible prophecy and who look at prophetic scriptures as allegorical and not literal. Consequently, they do not understand the importance of Israel to the God of Israel or God"s redemptive plan for Israel and the nations.
These church members also have no understanding of the biblical significance of what is transpiring today in Israel, Russia, China, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey, and in other Middle East nations. They are also not aware of the significance of the formation of the European Union, new ID technologies and much more.
I have shared the biblical significance of our times with some of these people and almost all of them can"t process the information mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. Many of these people, due to fear or unbelief, do not want to hear more. Sadly, they also have no biblical point of reference in which to start if they had interest.
The good news is those who understand Bible prophecy are fully aware of the significance of Israel, God"s time clock, and are watching the times with great interest and expectancy.
Below is a list of the 25 largest churches in America. The churches that are highlighted in bold are confirmed replacement theology churches. We are still attempting to confirm a few of the smaller church positions.

The Church

U.S. Membership Denominational Ranking: Largest 25 Denominations/Communions "2004 Yearbook of American and Canadian Churches

1. The Roman Catholic Church " 66,407,105
2. Southern Baptist Convention " 16, 427, 736
3. The United Methodist Church " 8,251,042
4. The Church of God in Christ " 5,499,875
5. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints " 5,410,544
6. Evangelical Lutheran Church in America " 5,038,006
7. National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc. " 5,000,000
8. National Baptist Convention of America, Inc. " 3,500,000
9. Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) " 3,407,329
10. Assemblies of God " 2,687,366
11. The Lutheran Church " Missouri Synod " 2,512,714
12. African Methodist Episcopal Church " 2,500,000
13. National Missionary Baptist Convention of America " 2,500,000
14. Progressive National Baptist Convention Inc. " 2,500,000
15. The Episcopal Church " 2,333,628
16. Churches of Christ, Corsicana, Texas " 1,500,000
17. Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America " 1,500,000
18. Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, Inc. " 1,500,000
19. American Baptist Churches in the U.S.A. " 1,484,291
20. African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church " 1,430,795
21. United Church of Christ " 1,330,985
22. Baptist Bible Fellowship International " 1,200,000
23. Christian Churches and Churches of Christ, Joplin, Mo. " 1,071,616
24. Jehovah"s Witnesses " 1,022,397
25. Church of God, Cleveland, Tenn., " 944,857
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1/11/2015 4:56:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
How Do Replacement Theologians Argue Their Case? They Say:
1.To be a son of Abraham is to have faith in Jesus Christ. For them, Galatians 3:29 shows that sonship to Abraham is seen only in spiritual, not national terms: "And if you be Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
Rebuttal: While this is a wonderful inclusionary promise for Gentiles, this verse does not exclude the Jewish people from their original covenant, promise and blessing as the natural seed of Abraham. This verse simply joins us Gentile Christians to what God had already started with Israel.

2.The promise of the land of Canaan to Abraham was only a "starter." The real Promised Land is the whole world. They use Romans 4:13 to claim it will be the Church that inherits the world, not Israel. "For the promise that he should be the heir of the world was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith."
Rebuttal: Where does this verse exclude Abraham and His natural progeny, the Jews? It simply says that through the law, they would not inherit the world, but this would be acquired through faith. This is also true of the Church.

3.The nation of Israel was only the seed of the future Church, which would arise and incorporate people of all nations (Mal. 1:11): "For from the rising of the sun, even unto the going down of the same, My Name shall be great among the nations, and in every place, incense shall be offered to My Name, and a pure offering for My Name shall be great among the nations, says the Lord of Hosts."
Rebuttal: This is great, and shows that the Jewish people and Israel fulfilled one of their callings to be "a light to the nations," so that God's Word has gone around the world. It does not suggest God's dealing with Israel was negated because His Name spread around the world.

4.Jesus taught that the Jews would lose their spiritual privileges, and be replaced by another people (Matt. 21:43): "Therefore I am saying to you, 'The kingdom of God will be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits of it.'"
Rebuttal: In this passage, Jesus was talking about the priests and Pharisees, who failed as leaders of the people. This passage is not talking about the Jewish people or nation of Israel. See Teaching Letter #770008, "Did God Break His Covenant With the Jews?"

5.A true Jew is anyone born of the Spirit, whether he is racially Gentile or Jewish (Rom. 2:28-29): "For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh; But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God."
Rebuttal: This argument does not support the notion that the Church replaced Israel. Rather, it simply reinforces what had been said throughout the Hebrew Scriptures [the Old Testament], and it certainly qualifies the spiritual qualifications for Jews or anyone who professes to be a follower of the God of Israel.

6.Paul shows that the Church is really the same "olive tree" as was Israel, and the Church is now the tree. Therefore, to distinguish between Israel and the Church is, strictly speaking, false. Indeed, people of Jewish origin need to be grafted back into the Church (Rom 11:17-23).
Rebuttal: This claim is the most outrageous because this passage clearly shows that we Gentiles are the "wild olive branches," who get our life from being grafted into the olive tree. The tree represents the covenants, promises and hopes of Israel (Eph. 2:12), rooted in the Messiah and fed by the sap, which represents the Holy Spirit, giving life to the Jews (the "natural branches") and Gentile alike. We Gentiles are told to remember that the olive tree holds us up and NOT to be arrogant or boast against the "natural branches" because they can be grafted in again. The olive tree is NOT the Church. We are simply grafted into God's plan that preceded us for over 2,000 years.

7.All the promises made to Israel in the Old Testament, unless they were historically fulfilled before the coming of Jesus Christ, are now the property of the Christian Church. These promises should not be interpreted literally or carnally, but spiritually and symbolically, so that references to Israel, Jerusalem, Zion and the Temple, when they are prophetic, really refer to the Church (II Cor. 1:20). "For all the promises of God in Him (Jesus) are Yea, and in Him, Amen, unto the glory of God by us." Therefore, they teach that the New Testament needs to be taught figuratively, not literally.
Rebuttal: Later, in this Teaching Letter, we will look at the fact that the New Testament references to Israel clearly pertain to Israel, not the Church. Therefore, no promise to Israel and the Jewish people in the Bible is figurative, nor can they be relegated to the Church alone. The promises and covenants are literal, many of them are everlasting, and we Christians can participate in them as part of our rebirth, not in that we took them over to the exclusion of Israel. The New Testament speaks of the Church's relationship to Israel and her covenants as being "grafted in" (Rom. 11:17), "brought near" (Eph. 2:13), "Abraham's offspring (by faith)" (Rom. 4:16), and "partakers" (Rom. 15:27), NOT as usurpers of the covenant and a replacer of physical Israel. We Gentile Christians joined into what God had been doing in Israel, and God did not break His covenant promises with Israel (Rom. 11:29).
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1/11/2015 6:40:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/11/2015 6:05:14 PM, Rant wrote:
I see all the rats run for their dark holes.

You could go about your rants more elegantly. You present yourself like a nut.

I understand, that the Jewish race is not what Jesus was referring to and the demographic land/dirt of current Israel is not the "Holy Land" and most of the loony denominations you named have no spiritual vision and is blind. In fact, most do not even believe the very scriptures they read and feel the need to rewrite it with so called "revelation from the Holy Spirit"

But Sir, Your rants, make you appear to be a hostile nut case.
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1/11/2015 7:48:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/11/2015 7:38:34 PM, Rant wrote:
But Sir, Your rants, make you appear to be a hostile nut case. Wow ! http://youtu.be...

Lol! So are you suggesting you are John the Baptist reincarnated or Jesus returned ?

I think you suffer from some sort form of Schizophrenia. Please seek professional help, before you end up hurting yourself or someone else.

Seriously......
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1/11/2015 7:52:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
No But I now the time of the rapture is at the door! just like John! felt the time has come. Enjoy
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1/11/2015 7:54:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/11/2015 7:52:05 PM, Rant wrote:
No But I now the time of the rapture is at the door! just like John! felt the time has come. Enjoy

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Oh...the rapture? How original. How about instead of predictions, why don't you be more proactive? The rapture isn't gonna make itself happen.
God's a comedian and atheism is a punch line waiting to happen.
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1/11/2015 8:03:23 PM
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I post on this forum but I will not> Casting Pearls Before Swine
"Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." (Matthew 7:6).
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1/13/2015 8:28:34 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/11/2015 6:40:57 PM, IRONHIDE wrote:
At 1/11/2015 6:05:14 PM, Rant wrote:
I see all the rats run for their dark holes.

You could go about your rants more elegantly. You present yourself like a nut.

I understand, that the Jewish race is not what Jesus was referring to and the demographic land/dirt of current Israel is not the "Holy Land" and most of the loony denominations you named have no spiritual vision and is blind. In fact, most do not even believe the very scriptures they read and feel the need to rewrite it with so called "revelation from the Holy Spirit"

But Sir, Your rants, make you appear to be a hostile nut case.

this guy shows himself as the hostile nut case.......Calvinist or JW supporter or something I have not figured out, but he sure hates Bible believers.
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1/13/2015 8:34:29 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
You might want to do a forum topic on Calvinism. Calvin and Luther were barbarians against Bible believers who never submitted to any kind of Catholicism......they killed a lot of babies and Christians, and weaken the church today through Calvinism....hating Bible believers the same as they always did, but like the Catholics they have to keep it quiet these days due to the political climate.